>> joe biden, thank you for everything, joe biden. >> the border is overwhelmed. yesterday's numbers over 9,000. add 1500 got-aways, plus the thousand through the port of entry, it's not slowing down a bit. >> arizona can't do this alone, nor should we have to. >> the reality, help is not on the way. >> sandra: outnumbered and outresource, migrants on the border each and every day. the flow of people is constant day after day after day, and unprecedented levels. live pictures from arizona screen right, and on the left that, is texas. these are checkpoints showing large groups of migrants that have already crossed over and they are waiting to be processed before they come on in. hello, well come, everyone. sandra smith in new york. great to begin another hour with you. >> john: i'm john roberts in washington as we kick off hour

two of "america reports". lukeville, arizona, quickly becoming a hot bed for smugglers. fox has learned more than 600 migrants arrived there overnight, some coming all the way from africa. >> sandra: in eagle pass, texas, dozens of migrants lining up along a fence line waiting for border patrol. that is where griff jenkins has been reporting from today. griff, what are you seeing there right now? >> griff: well, sandra, you know, i've covered quite extensively this border crisis and i have never seen what's happening at this very moment. let's go to our fox flight team and give you that shot here in eagle pass, and this area we have shown you large group after large group, sandra. but what's happening at this very moment here in eagle pass is this sector, this area is getting hit simultaneously in three different locations with a large group. the border patrol defines a large group as 100 plus.

100 or more migrants. this is the scenario of the port of entry, and a remnants of a group 500, the flight team, 350 to 400, upwards of 500. if you go west where i am, about 15 miles, there's another location. they are getting hit with a large group of 80 to 100, and further beyond that, near a water plant, they are getting hit with a large group of 100 or more. in arizona, in lukeville, 1,000 miles to my west, you see the live shot of migrants just continuing to stream down that road on the screen left is the wall built under the trump administration, from lukeville to yuma. the right, the white poles are light poles to be put in place to continue under another trump administration did not get down, they halted construction and migrants have gone through the

fence and stripped copper off, nothing left there but a white pole. the guys on the other side, cartel know what they are doing. the crisis is overwhelming the resources from lukeville to eagle pas and many points in between. that is why you've got officials sounding the alarm because the ratio as we have mentioned and reported before in lukeville, the ratio is 200-1, and here in eagle pass, upwards of 50 to 60-1, and it's not sustainable. they cannot move them fast enough when they get hit again and again and coming here to eagle pass since i've been out here well before the sun came out. closing in on 1200, maybe 1500 already and it's not even the early afternoon. yesterday in the del rio sector, you had more than 2200 migrants. among them, about 45 miles north

here in brakaville, sex offenders, one of them a child sex offender. here, resources-wise, the mayor of eagle pass, independent, not a republican, not a democrat, says he's had enough. he says he feels abandoned by this administration because he's got resources. we saw not 1, 2, 3 -- we saw 6 separate visits to the location i was at before this because we had a man that broke his leg, a woman that had an injured, fractured foot, another woman that had blood sugar spike and had to be sent to the hospital. it's draining the resources from the fire department, the ambulances, the local police taking a toll. and yet when you talk to the locals, sandra, like mayor salinas and others and say hey, how do you feel about the senate that may go home and not come to an agreement on an border bill that could do things, not only

send money but reverse some policies to knock down on the pull factor, the magnet bringing these people here, said this is unbelievable. they are not getting this done. at the end of the day, don't lose sight of the fact that we had that nugget, the 5,000 a day are released, that's why the people you are seeing on the screen are coming because they hope to be released. sandra, back to you. >> sandra: griff jenkins on all of that for us. thank you. chris clem now, former border patrol chief for the yuma, arizona sector. he started his career in el paso. thank you very much for joining us. first weigh in, please, as we continue to see these live pictures of very clearly migrants continuing to overwhelm our southern border, both in texas and arizona, sir. >> yeah, thank you for having me on. thank you for continuing this coverage. this is like a horror version of groundhog day, the movie. going on the last several years this administration.

i was just in lukeville last week, witnessed it firsthand, 1,000 on the ground, mainly adult males, some family groups there. but you are seeing this just like in griff's report from eagle pass to lukeville, arizona. this has been going on day in and day out the last several years, and you know, i'm glad that there are governors and some independent people saying enough is enough. a clear message to washington, you know what, the policies you put in place are not working and americans and the migrants are paying the price. >> sandra: outnumbered and outresourced, this is the arizona governor calling on federal reimbursement. listen. >> arizona can't do this alone,

nor should we have to. we are asking the federal government to reimburse us for the costs to arizonans, for far too long, arizona has borne the brunt of federal inaction on the southern border and i'm tired of it. >> sandra: this is bipartisan outrage over this happening. does that give you some sort of hope that they'll be able to push the white house on this issue? >> well, that's what we have to bank on is that some of the members of the president's own party are very frustrated. you know, i'm glad she went down there to the border. she's been dealing with this and aware of this since she took off office. that reimbursement is really to pay the state and government and local agencies that have been, you know, deal with the releases and the shelters and arizona taxpayers like myself shouldn't have to bear the brunt of a federal problem. and you know, what's so amazing about this is if a state was to take action to try to take, you know, decisive enforcement actions, the same administration would come after them, and where

the hypocrisy out of washington, d.c., when it comes to the border is beyond frustrating and you know, again, this was -- this was fixed. we were at the best place and the most secure border i had been working with and at that point 25 years and we were getting there and they wasted some opportunities here. >> sandra: chris, i keep highlighting the images, we are showing them, this is the fox flight team otherwise you would not see the images. this is constant, this flow is constant. we were -- this time yesterday covering the exact same story and steady flow of migrants coming over, having to be processed by the border patrol agents. you mentioned frustration, there is frustration, you heard from the governor of arizona a democrat, new york city mayor adams frustration at the border, a meeting in d.c. last week.

>> did not see the level of urgency. i'm just not seeing the, you know, the white house and their colleagues up there understanding that we need to decompress the strategy. cities should not carry the burden of a national crisis and when i left d.c. i did not say the calvary is coming. >> sandra: acknowledging it's a national crisis, he's dealing with it here in new york city, he said i'm not seeing the white house and their colleagues up there understanding that we need a strategy. here is the border crisis by the numbers, cries. what we are looking at. 5,000 migrants released every day into the country. we had a record 12,000 migrants that were encountered, just last week, that is the highest number ever. do you see any signs of this abating? >> well, no, and let me just say something about mayor adams.

he sent his team down to the border last year, i met with his team and explained this is what was happening, coming to a city near them and i'm glad they are finally getting frustrated and vocal. but the numbers what i lived as chief and living right now. i don't see abatement. and what's happening, what the administration is putting forth as far as their budget, to expedite and officially process the migrants once in custody, get them released. that is a pull factor that other guests and other people have talked about. if there is not a consequence, if there is no reason to stop them, they are going to keep coming and if we are just going to put technology to efficiently process them, that's a continuous pull factor. we have to shut it down, we need to get the border secure, get things in place and then, and then at that point can we address what that lawful pathway should be. >> sandra: ok. chris clem, thank you very much for joining us as we continue to

watch this at our southern border. we will see what happens next as there are bipartisan calls to do something. thank you, sir. john. >> john: sandra, a live look at the pentagon where pat ryder is giving his first briefing of the week. a few questions on the houthi drone attacks but breaking news via the "wall street journal," israel is pumping sea water into hamas tunnels. we are following the briefing and will bring you nice out of it. >> sandra: antisemitic attacks are up over 300%, imagine being a jewish parent and learning your child's middle school teacher is making antisemitic claims. >> john: and president biden meeting with zelenskyy making an 11th hour plea for more funding. after two years of brutal fighting and little gains to show for it, it's a tough sell for lawmakers.

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>> sandra: all right, you are looking live here in new york city, this is the united nations, it is an ongoing protest there happening today. it was planned. but they are outside the u.n. ahead of this gaza meeting, pro-palestinian, and the information that we have on it so far as we have sent a camera there, this is an emergency protest during the general assembly session and we are going to continue to monitor. this is flood the u.n. for gaza is the name of the protest.

so, we are watching this happening live here in new york city. we'll continue to bring you updates from the u.n.. john. >> john: on the subject of floods, "wall street journal" is reporting, and we have been expecting for a long time, u.s. has information that israel has begun pumping sea water into the vast tunnel complex beneath gaza that hamas has constructed over the last 20 years. israel was testing some large pumps that in one report that i saw that was done by an organization in israel can fill an olympic size swimming pool in a minute. and they have now, according to the "wall street journal" and u.s. sources pumping into the tunnel to flush hamas fighters out. the concern is, too, hostages, including americans, are held in the tunnels as well and how will that affect their fate. we will watch this all, sandra. >> sandra: we will indeed as we

learn more about the situation in gaza, in the tunnels, john. meanwhile, the clock is ticking for president biden pushing congress to pass billions more dollars and more funding for ukraine. volo volodymyr zelenskyy is heading to the white house after lobbying on capitol hill. lawmakers say they cannot get on board until we address our own border concerns here at home. jacqui heinrich is live at the white house for us. jacqui, what are you hearing? >> jacqui: the white house says, jake sullivan affirmed this morning that they are not going to accept a take it or leave it border deal from republicans who are holding ukraine aid hostage. >> from my perspective, we do have to work through border policy and border resources and the president said he's prepared to do that, but the united states cannot walk away from ukraine. it's a matter of getting over this linkage issue or finding a

resolution on the border. >> jacqui: in the senate, democrats are worried about the lack of movement. republicans say they are committed to negotiating until an agreement on the border is reached, because they do view ukraine aid as imperative. >> this is a time for republicans to be serious about reaching an agreement. >> support for ukraine and israel is rock solid, i'm going to work to get it done as long as it takes. >> it's not exactly mirrored in the house. speaker indicated republicans don't want to fund a stalemate conflict and need a better strategy from the white house on top of sweeping border policies. >> what the biden administration seems to be asking for is billions of additional dollars with no appropriate oversight, no clear strategy to win, and none of the answers that i think the american people are owed. >> jacqui: so president zelenskyy will make his appeal in a joint press conference with president biden shortly.

but it is unclear what impact it's going to have, if his visit to congress this morning didn't already move the needle. so far the president has not called on congress to stay in session until this thing is figured out, but that might be where we are headed, sandra. >> sandra: we'll be watching for that. happening a short time from now. john. >> john: let's bring in lieutenant general keith kellogg, fox news contributor and former national security adviser to vice president mike pence. to ukraine in just a second, general, but first of all, this new tactic that apparently is plugged by the idf to flood gaza tunnels with sea water, good idea, bad idea? >> it's a great idea. innovative as well. it does not sacrifice soldiers. what i mean by soldiers, putting soldiers into the tunnels where the advantage is hamas. this way, by doing that, it forces, sort of like when we used to destroy gopher holes, the same thing, force them out, find out where the access points out, makes a lot of sense.

i think the israelis are doing innovative things, on the attack and doing well. >> john: does it put hostages potentially in danger. could hamas leave them behind to drown. >> harsh to say and i know it, you can't think of the hostage as the primary. you have to think of defeating hamas and i think that's what makes it really hard. but you have to do that. >> john: to ukraine now, chuck schumer, senate majority leader met with zelenskyy this morning, now at the white house with meetings with the president. schumer obviously wants the funding to go through. republicans say not without money to address the security problem at the southern border. what schumer said. >> he needs the aid quickly, if we don't give the aid quickly, several things will happen. first the military needs but second, europe and many other allies say what is going on here, they are not giving them the aid. >> john: in the conflict, headed toward the end of the second

year and the past year there has not been a lot of progress either way and now some members of congress saying why do we keep funding this, maybe we should put the money towards something else. >> it's frustrating for me. we have crested 360 days and we talked well over a year ago heading to a stalemate. ukrainians have the advantage if we just supported them appropriately early on. now reaching a point even the senior general is talking about a stalemate. i think to now think about two things. not only fighting but hoe they terminate going forward. my frustration is this. almost like we talk about giving them money but a demographic piece involved here as well. they have lost over 125, 150,000 soldiers, ukrainians, and we only lost 48,000 in ten years in vietnam. and the brits in world war i, they talk about the lost

generation. you are talking about the lost generation in ukraine. attrition find with the russians, 18 to 40, they outgunned the ukrainians 5-1 and now the advantage. frustration, you better think about the end state and you how get there, and does not mean you stop fighting but you have to terminate and maybe think about the long-term efforts. and the problem right now, even with ukraine, they are not thinking like that. >> john: we heard jacqui heinrich point to it, and speaker johnson talk about it as well, this sense that we are funding a stalemate because the biden administration has not given ukraine in the last almost two years what it needs for a definitive win. "wall street journal" editorial board said biden's halting record on ukraine, slow delivery of key weapons has hurt kyiv's military progress. what is the end game? by the biden administration calculation, is it to draw to a negotiated settlement, allow

ukraine to win, is it to allow russia to have a slow victory but one that is going to cost dearly in terms of overall military strength, what's the end game? >> incremental does not win wars. that's what we did, the administration and alliance nations as well and i think they have to go into a discussion where the end state is, meaning negotiations. they have to get there, because the russians now have become empowered. this now started to -- ukrainians could not punch through in the south in kherson, they are having problems near vika, where human wave attacks are taking place and they need to step back and take a knee and what i mean by take a knee, take a pause, figure out where you are going to go. it's hard to talk about it, but looking at the demographics. easy to say give them weapons and supplies, but if we do not give it to win a war, we are killing more and more ukrainians, and the long-term i

think that's wrong. >> john: good to get your thoughts on things. >> sandra: back to the live pictures outside the united nations headquarters, anti-israel protestors are gathering. they are blocking first avenue here in new york city. think it's the middle of a workday, tuesday afternoon, 2:25 p.m. eastern time. they are expecting a vote for the ceasefire in gaza, so those protestors have now literally taken to the street and they are blocking a main avenue here in new york city, it heads north, this obviously will cause a lot of headache for a lot of commuters as we head into the afternoon, late afternoon hours. we are going to monitor these live shots out of the united nations and first avenue here in new york city for you. >> john: plus, fox speaks exclusively with family members of hostages in gaza as hamas terrorists threaten to kill all the remaining prisoners if their demands are not met. we are hearing from heroic loved ones on their fight to bring

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>> john: again taking a live look at the border, this is lukeville, arizona, as migrants continue to cross the border from mexico unabated coming from all around the world. most migrants across the border in lukeville hail from africa, places like senegal, also the middle east, syria, further to the west in san diego, a lot of chinese and then people from the northern triangle countries and venezuela coming across in eagle pass, texas. depending on where the border you are, it's controlled by different cartels, they get their businesses from different parts of the world, but basically the southern border has become a funnel for the world and for people that come over most of the people that we have seen lately looking for work and money in their pockets, not to claim asylum.

and as we leave the border behind, a rise in antisemitism on college campuses. but it's also bleeding through from kindergarten to high school. one teacher in tacoma park, maryland has been suspended for anti-jewish posts online and another teacher in the county was placed on leave for including the phrase from the river to the sea, palestinian will be free in her email signature. now republican senators are calling on biden to step up and protect impressionable students. mike emmanuel joins us with more. what's the school board saying about all this? >> montgomery county, maryland, outside washington, d.c. has a large jewish population, more than 100,000 people estimated about 10% of the community. another teacher in that county in hot water for claiming the october 7th hamas attacks were a hoax. a teacher and a local parent recently expressed outreach to

the local school board. >> i have a front row seats to parents' stories of antisemitism in our schools. these span from hateful graffiti to instances of physical bullying. >> students of tomorrow are the same ones that are protesting and chanting the same antisemitism particular rhetoric in colleges and protests we see today. >> a group of republican senators wrote a letter to the education secretary expressing concern about antisemitism in the nation's schools. "antisemitism in high schools is uniquely concerning. as teenagers are particularly impressionable, deeply affected by the social dynamics of their peers and by the authority of their teachers." in oakland, california, unauthorized teach-in emphasizing the palestinian side of the middle east conflict. some parents are demanding the

teachers -- and in california, another said all israelis and jews should be killed. >> john: wonder what the presidents of u-penn, harvard and mit would think about that. unbelievable. >> sandra: hamas threatens to kill all remaining hostages if the demands are not met, israelis are speaking out about their loved ones in captivity. one young woman is sharing hir parents' following following their kidnapping and also grappling the loss of a friend who the idf says was killed by the terror group. she is one of israelis trying to shed light on the brutality. c.b., any updates on the hostages that remain in gaza? >> sandra, i can tell you, a tragic update, we heard trey talk about this earlier, idf has recovered two bodies of hostages from gaza. 27-year-old woman kidnapped

during the music festival and a soldier. we spoke to two israelis still fighting and hoping to get their loved ones back home. >> i keep talking all the time. >> ella talks to a photo of her dad, hoping some day they'll be face-to-face once again. >> my dad was just in his home, and now is in captivity. >> she prays and believes her dad ohl survive being held hostage by hamas. her mom was also taken captive on october 7th and released less than two weeks ago. >> she is very scared, she doesn't talk a lot. i can tell you from what i've seen that she's very thin. >> her mother who was released from captivity on november 24th says she couldn't sleep after hamas took her oxygen machine. >> the trauma is terrible. it will take some time. >> now he hopes his mother recovers, he's also believing she'll be with his dad once

again. the 79-year-old remains kidnapped in gaza. >> surely hope to have a miracle, christmas miracle, hanukkah miracle, whatever miracle it is and have them back home with us. >> horrific to hear their heartbreak. the young woman said she hid in a safe room 15 hours to try and spare her life from hamas. >> sandra: we have an update on the hostage situation, of the 135 people still in gaza captivity, 19 of them are confirmed dead. among the dead in gaza, tanzanian national, according to israeli government press office. we are learning 19 of the 135, c.b. >> some of the worst news for the families who are literally monitoring updates and the clock for answers. they don't know if their loved ones are going to come back home, this is really emotional for a lot of them and talking to

this young girl, every day, every night she prays for her dad to come back home and they feel like they can't move forward until they have an answer. so we are going to try to connect with her. >> sandra: some readouts of president biden's conversation with ukraine's zelenskyy right now, telling him not to give up hope. that meeting is happening right now. should we get update or response from the white house on what we have just learned about the israeli hostages and now learning a tanzanian national was among the 19 now confirmed dead out of the 135. we'll certainly bring that to our viewers. c.b. cotton, thank you. >> john: leaders at the u.n. climate change summit expected to call for less meat consumption in a brand-new report. and steakhouse owners are not happy about it. how the move could put their businesses at stake. >> sandra: plus, a bit of a cooling when it comes to prices.

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avenue outside the united nations there in new york city, where an emergency session of the general assembly will take up the issue of a gaza ceasefire just minutes from now and the protestors out there making their voices heard saying they want a ceasefire now. they are calling this "flood the u.n.," which takes language from the october 7th massacre which was called the al oxa flood by hamas. nypd is out there in force saying they will arrest anybody

who doesn't clear the streets. we have heard the crowd is beginning to disperse a little bit, but hard core group of people hanging in there wanting to make their voices heard ahead of this u.n. vote. sandra. >> sandra: big police presence at 45th and 1st. watching inflation numbers, affecting american's everyday lives, consumer price index up 3.1% in november, year over year number. prices of food and goods higher, energy prices did move down a bit. so, how is all this going to factor into the fed's big decision, they announce it tomorrow. kevin o'leary, it's so important we always point out that prices are still going up, just a slower rate than they were, right, kevin. so we are still paying sky high prices but the rate at which they are going up is slowing down, correct? >> kevin: yeah, definitely, but they are up significantly from

pre-pandemic a few years ago. so people think and thought that during the pandemic they would see extreme inflation, they did. and then somehow when the pandemic was over they would return back to pre-pandemic prices. that has not occurred. indices build around energy, housing, food, all of these have gone up as a result of fed rate hikes and i remind everybody, even though a lot of optimism the fed will not raise rates anymore, the fed has a mandate, it's 2%. we are nowhere near 2%. they are not going to stop or reduce rates until they get 2%. no matter what anybody thinks or says, the mandate is 2%. i've never heard fed speak say we are going to change our mandate and go to 2.5 or 2.75 or 3%. that's not going to happen. so, get ready for longer, higher longer. >> sandra: but the messaging from this white house is still, you know, things are getting better. this was -- this was the

national econ counsel director brainerd today on prices going down, which they are not. listen. >> the underlying trend lines and inflation are good. we have seen grocery prices come down. we have seen prices at the pump come down. >> sandra: okay, so, we can take a snapshot in time, for example with gas prices. but these are the overall price increases since this president took office, and this is really important. overall up 17.3%. for food at home, up more than 20%. electricity prices are sky high, and overall energy prices are up 35%. kevin, what i do want to ask you about, what's happening in today's market and ask you what your take away from that is. because it's important to identify that oil is seeing a major selloff right now, down 4%. it's moving, it's moving a lot

lower than we had been living through, and gas prices are coming down. now like $3 a gallon, they are going way lower in a lot of other parts of the country right now. so, what is your take away, while i point out those are still much higher than when the president took office. >> talk about oil, started to spike down around 7:30 in the morning, a result of two things. one, obviously, at the end of the u.n. climate change and no reduction or even speak about reducing the major oil producers output. so you have a lot of supply. and then of course you have a situation where demand is questioned, particularly in china, regarding their economy and so it really is the true commodity, the trade globally and always trades in u.s. dollars by the barrel but it's a spot market trying to figure out the two numbers, supply and demand. >> sandra: we have some breaking news, really interesting stuff and i want to have you back shortly. we have the president at the white house, kevin, thank you.

john. >> john: all right, so volodymyr zelenskyy, the president of ukraine is meeting with president biden at the white house, the playout from the oval office here. >> easy, easy, easy. >> thank you so much. >> welcome back to the white house.

>> thank you. >> and the oval office. and great to be at your side once again. we are going to stay at your side. you know, we stand at a real inflection point in history. i know you and i have talked about this. where the decisions we make now are going to determine the future for decades to come, particularly in europe. and this is one of those moments. congress needs to pass a supplemental funding for ukraine before they break for holiday recess. before they give putin the greatest christmas gift they could possibly give him and so because we have seen what happens when dictators don't pay the price for the damage and the death and destruction it caused and they keep going when no price is paid. the threat to america, to europe and the world will only keep rising if we don't act. and i intend that we act. american people, democrats and republicans, alike i think understand that and understand

the real fight that's going on right now. in the winter, this winter, putin plans to bombard ukraine's electric grid and with rockets plunging families in the darkness in the coldest part of the year and doing great damage. we can't and won't let him succeed, musn't let him succeed. mr. president, i've called on congress to do the right thing, to stand with ukraine, to stand up for freedom. and i want to thank you for being here, you are going to help the cause and i don't want you giving up hope. >> thanks so much. mr. president, your journalists here at the white house and sharing important messages, thank you for invitation and i would like to thank american partners for the support and today the special day, a special day for ukraine, ukrainian people, a day forces, almost 600,000, incredibly brave

ukrainian and others on the battlefield and this is their day and they prove every day that ukraine can win. and our forces are advancing and we have successfully defeated russia in the black sea and russia is hiding the remnants of it naval fleet and remote base, and meanwhile, ukraine has set up a corridor in the black sea boosting our economy and global food security. yesterday i met with imf and world bank and impressed with the ukraine economy growth, almost 5%, and that's significant. ukraine is greatly becoming less dependent on aid and we are moving to right direction and i want to discuss with the president how to strengthen it, especially enhancing our air defense and ability to destroy russia's logistics. our goals are clear, take away

russia's superiority and disrupt their operations and i think it's real. and important things, i met with the heads of american defense companies yesterday, thank you very much, mr. president, powerful companies, i thank them and thank all the workers, engineers, managers, and build the strength of american weapons helping ukraine boost the development of arsenals of democracy. president biden, agreed and we spoke about it in september to join weapon production, very important for us and will discuss how to speed up this, and also need to work faster with the frozen russian assets, over 300 billion frozen assets from terrorists and use it to protect against russian and i

want to talk about some details regarding our e.u. integration. ukraine continues to reform its institutions even during the war. it's very important for us and we are successful, i think, it's very important, and people need to be confident that freedom be secure and strong enough to win. thank you very much, mr. president. >> thank you. and before -- before the press leave -- whoa, whoa, whoa, hush up a second, ok? one more thing to say. i just signed another $200 million draw-down from the department of defense to ukraine and that will be coming quickly. thank you. >> thank you very much.

went on longer than it normally does, if the president is not of a mind to answer questions, his press aides usually jump in and shoo the press pool out more quickly, so we got to hear them yelling questions a full 30 seconds or so. zelenskyy making the case they are making some progress, particularly in the black sea and now is not the time to go short on aid to ukraine. but the senate having a real argument over whether or not to give more money to ukraine if we don't address the situation at our own southern border and that has led to a big impasse that

may not get solved before we go on break. >> sandra: and we got an update from chad pergram on capitol hill that chuck schumer says at 3:00 p.m. eastern time, about less than seven minutes from now, a meeting with schumer aide, senators murphy, langeford and mayorkas on a border supplemental, a lot happening in the next couple hours in washington, john. >> john: we'll keep following it for us. >> sandra: "saturday night live," skewer elise stefanik and not college presidents who struggled to answer her questions on antisemitism. so, why did "snl" seem to miss so badly? people tell me they'd love to buy gold. but because it's gold - they think it must be complicated. it isn't. not with rosland capital. with rosland...

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>> john: protests outside the u.n. still boisterous but smaller. it's now down to about 150 people, but looks just as large because the police have got them corralled into a smaller area. they are calling this "flood the u.n." borrowing language from hamas terrorists that called the attacks of october 7th the acts of flood. the nypd threatening to arrest anybody that doesn't comply with their orders to get off the streets. sandra? >> fox news alert. the senate minority leaders speaking to reporters about what is happening with the supplemental. let's listen. >> all i have said is practically impossible even though we reach an agreement to craft it, get it through the

senate, get it through the house before christmas. joe biden and i did do some pretty big deals, fiscal cliff deal, the debt ceiling deal. what i have said to him is the only way we'll get an agreement is for you to be involved. there won't be a deal until joe biden and republicans reach an agreement. >> sandra: okay. that's the update, john. take what you will from that. we'll see where it goes. >> john: he's saying he wants the president to get involved because he wants to extract money for border security from the president. looks like they can't get it done in the 11th hour this time. >> sandra: great to be with you, john. i'm sandra smith, i'm john roberts. see you tomorrow. "the story" with martha starts right now. >> thanks very much, guys. good afternoon.