the justice department will take a pass and not do it. >> bill: before we get out of here the line everybody is hanging on. here is hunter biden from 90 minutes ago. >> let me state as clearly as i can, my father was not financially involved in my business, not as a practicing lawyer, not as a board member of burisma, not in my partnership with a chinese private businessman, not in my investments at home nor abroad. certainly not as an artist. >> bill: so we had a plan when we came on the air today. >> dana: i like it when it gets thrown out. >> bill: it is all out the window. >> dana: the white house press secretary will have to answer this at 1:00 p.m. >> bill: you have that and the big vote in the house. see how it goes. we'll follow every turn as it happens. >> dana: martha maccallum is in for harris. turn it over to you. >> martha: we have continuing coverage here, of course, right

now as hunter biden was supposed to be sitting right now behind closed doors for a deposition on the hill. but this morning again he said he will speak only to lawmakers if he can do so publicly. welcome to "the faulkner focus", everybody. good morning, i'm martha maccallum in for harris. republicans said they wanted to talk to hunter biden closed doors. they would hold him in contempt if he didn't show up. he did show up on his own terms. he stood before the cameras on the senate side of the building, lots of attention this morning, and then he got back in a car and left capitol hill. watch this. >> in the depths of my addiction i was extremely irresponsible with my finances. but to suggest that is grounds for an impeachment inquiry is beyond the absurd. it is shameless. there is no evidence to support

the allegations that my father was financially involved in my business because it did not happen. >> martha: there is a lot there and we'll dig it into today. the house will vote later today, separate but connected in some ways, which we'll get into this morning here, on formalizing an impeachment inquiry and that is into president biden. only a simple majority is needed to move forward with an inquiry into impeachment on the house side. now the inquiry would give the house more power to require the biden administration to comply with requests that they have made for information and for testimony. also grants more subpoena power to the three committees that would be probing this impeachment. the white house dismissed all of this as pure political theater. republicans say they are simply

following the evidence where it has gone. watch this. >> mr. biden's counsel and the white house have both argued that the reason he couldn't come for a deposition was because there wasn't a formal vote for an impeachment inquiry. that will happen in a few hours. we think it is going to pass. we think the house of representatives will go on record with the power that solely resides in the house to say we're in an official impeachment inquiry phase of our oversight. when that happens we'll see what their excuse is then. >> martha: republican congressman chip roy who sits on the judiciary committee will join us. first chad pergram with a look at all of the fascinating comings and goings outside the building on capitol hill and what happens next inside. >> hunter biden ducked the deposition arguing he wanted an open hearing. democrats backed him up. >> they wanted to conduct the deposition in a closed-door

interview so the public couldn't see it and so they could continue to cherry pick little pieces of evidence and distort and misrepresent what had taken place. >> hunter biden spoke to reporters on the senate side of capitol hill because he was out of compliance with the house subpoena. that means the house agent at arms could not compel him to appear. the house has no authority on the senate side. >> let me state as clearly as i can, my father was not financially involved in my business, not as a practicing lawyer, not as a board member of burisma, not in my partnership with a chinese private businessman, not in my investments as home or abroad and certainly not as an artist. >> the house votes today to authorize an impeachment inquiry. republicans struggled for months to get the votes to initiate an

impeachment inquiry. it appears they finally have them because moderates from swing districts are now on board. vulnerable gop members are now prepared to vote yes. >> i have defended a lot of tough votes over my career on both sides of the aisle and taken heat from both sides. it is what it is. on this one it's an inquiry to start the process and ask some serious questions. >> jim jordan says the house will try to hold hunter biden in contempt of congress if he does not comply with a subpoena. but the biden justice department would be asked to prosecute that case. martha. >> martha: i will hold you for a quick question about something you spoke about moments ago with bill and dana. you referenced it in your report that you thought that he was going to be arriving on the house side. that is where he had been subpoenaed to give closed door testimony. then you found out he was over on the senate side. what could the house sergeant-at-arms have done, what would be within his power if he

had been sort of within arm's reach of hunter biden this morning? >> conceivably james comer, there was a question posed to him at the gaggle in the hallway, the chairman. could go to the sergeant at arm and sap he is on our territory and out of compliance. get him in to comply with the subpoena. we don't see that much now. in the 18th century we saw more of that. by showing up on the senate side of the capitol house sergeant-at-arms has no jurisdiction but what it showed is that hunter biden was on capitol hill. saying i'm here just not coming into that room to take part in that closed-door deposition and that's why he got in the van and left. >> martha: chad, thank you very much. reporting on the ongoings on capitol hill this morning. congressman chip roy is a member of the rules and judiciary committees and policy chair for

the house freedom caucus. congressman roy, thank you very much. good to have you here this morning. what did you make of hunter biden's rather lengthy statement about his addiction, his finances, and what he is calling a maga attempt to ridicule him and his family. >> great to be on, martha. first of all, something like 65 to 68% of the american people want to know exactly what we want to know, the truth. they recognize there is criminal -- legal concerns here as well as ethical concerns. so what we want to know is what did president biden know and what was his involvement in the very clear enrichment of his family? hunter biden at the center and his entire family through multiple shell corporations over the last six, seven, eight years going back to when he was vice president. what did he know? has he lied about it and have they engaged in obstruction of justice? what you saw today from hunter biden was more obstruction.

what we've seen out of the department of justice where they limited the ability of witnesses to testify telling them they can't speak about certain things. they can't speak about daddy's involvement or speak about whether or not the tax returns were slow walked to let the statute of limitations run. they can't speak about the truth about the extent to which d.o.j. has stonewalled all the witnesses from being able to testify. that's the truth and now hunter biden comes up, thumbs his nose at the process, goes over and gives a press conference without coming and honoring the request of the house of representatives to do a deposition and appear before the committee. it will continue. we'll have a vote today on the impeachment inquiry, we need to second evidence about the corruption of this president which is very clear, millions of dollars enriching hunter biden peddling the family name. we have know that's what happened. daddy's brand, the biden brand,

peddling it in order to enrich his family. it is wrong and corrupt. >> martha: that's the testimony we heard from devon archer, one of the inner cirquely involved in all this business. the brand was the biden name. and you watch hunter biden up there. seems to me as if he got what he wanted. he wanted a public testimony moment. no doubt this would have been his opening statement if these had been open hearings. what we didn't get was to watch republicans and democrats question him in this environment. do you think it was a mistake to not allow them re him the public hearing he asked for and will you ever get him behind closed doors to testify now? >> well the procedures we put in place we put in place for a reason for our witnesses have to go through and have a deposition. then you can have hearings when you get to the next step. it is important to note on steps of the capitol he said an important word. he said his dad didn't have any involvement financially, right? he didn't say it was a blanket

that he wasn't involved. that's really important. hunter biden is basically an ongoing domino fall of stupid decisions and statements. we're seeing that right here going to the capitol and saying his dad wasn't involved in financial dealings. we'll see if that is true. that's a big tell to me. we all know that his dad was involved in enriching hunter and foreign entities were sending millions of dollars to them. we know from whistleblower testimony they were slow walking the i.r.s. from being able to go after the investigation in 2014 and 2015. we know these things to be true so we will have an inquiry today. we'll seek the truth. we've been having to do all the work the department of justice refuses to do and we can hold him in contempt in the house of representatives and see where the process goes. the sweetheart deal he got from a judge and that judge -- that he got from d.o.j. and the judge slapped down the deal, now we're seeing the truth. now you have an indictment where

they dance around refusing to actually go after joe biden in those years because they are trying to put this all onto hunter. the truth will come out to the american people this is a broad corruption involving the entire biden family. >> martha: it is significant as you mentioned, congressman, that he said my dad was not involved in the financial part of any of my businesses, because if people just roll back their memory bank they remember president biden on the debate stage saying my son isn't involved in any foreign businesses and i have nothing to do with any of his businesses. then it became i'm not in business with my son, right? now it's my dad was not financially involved in business. we've seen all of these direct interactions and the phone calls and the shakedown attempt. my dad is sitting right next to me right now. you better send us the money to the chinese company. i want to show you one headline here from the "washington post" editorial board. they say the hunter biden

indictment is sound. the joe biden impeachment inquiry is not. there is a lot of effort to say that your side of this investigation has not proven any link between the president and this hunter biden indictment, which is a tax evasion charge primarily at this point and a gun charge. what would you say to the "washington post" editorialists? >> i think the "washington post" doth protest too much with respect to what our case is. we have had no support out of the department of justice. we have had to do all the work through the oversight and judiciary committee. i would also point to the obstruction i have laid out with respect to the d.o.j. the obstruction that we have haven't been able to get witnesses to come forward because of direct pushdown from d.o.j. and merrick garland and the white house. but also note the 82,000 emails, right? involving a pseudonym that we believe the president was using when he was vice president that

businesses. that indicates some problems. we have only gotten 14 of those. we are getting stonewalled and obstruction, which is something we have to pursue. to them i would say look, the only reason this indictment is sound is because a judge stood in front of the department of justice which tried to cut a sweetheart deal. they are ignoring it on purpose. i want to say a shout-out to mike johnson, our speaker, for proceeding with this and moving it to the floor. i hope we pass it today. every republican should support this on the floor of the house. mike johnson should be commended to doing that. we disagree on some things but this is an important things and standing up yesterday and ukraine and saying we need to secure our border first was also really important. >> martha: where the impeachment inquiry might lead an the implications of it. thank you very much. let me bring in matt whitaker

former acting attorney general. matt, good morning. we haven't seen you weigh in on this this morning. dramatic morning on the sidewalk in front of the senate side which is fascinating. i don't know if he thought they would grab him on the house side and make him testify. your thoughts on that and what you saw so far unfolding today. he is gone now, no closed door testimony. >> right. this is political theater at its best. perfectly scripted from the hunter biden team to make their points, to score as many points as they possibly can and then to ultimately walk away and so the american people will sort of see him speaking at the capitol but without the liability or risk that it would otherwise involve, market martha. we'll see if there is a two-tier department of justice. we had people like peter navarro and steve bannon that were indicted by d.o.j. for ignoring

a congressional subpoena and now that hunter biden has done it, we'll see whether merrick garland is willing to do it. the one other thing i would like to make on this point is that hunter biden's team had a simple calculation. he is already facing six felony charges for guns and taxes, he has six misdemeanor charges on the tax case. one more misdemeanor they were willing to risk that legally because he is in real hot water with the other cases. >> martha: listening to this discussion prior to this hour that dana and bill were having about the department of justice and talking with andy mccarthy and whether or not they will actually pursue any of that. congress has very limited powers when it comes to this. i think the american people watch this and here we go again. nothing ever happens to these people. we watch it time and time again from hillary clinton to, you

know, some might put president trump in there with impeachments and we watch how political they are once they move through the majorities in the house and senate. what would you say to folks at home who are throwing up their hands at this this morning? >> they have every right to be frustrated. i'm here in iowa today where i was born and raised and live. i would tell you that a lot of this that happens in washington, d.c. is oftentimes discarded as pure politics. when the department of justice puts their thumb on the scale of justice that is noticed. i think merrick garland is going to have to ultimately indict him, hunter biden, for ignoring this congressional subpoena. you remember when he appointed the special counsel as soon as the documents were found hidden in joe biden's garage behind the corvette, he felt obligated to appoint a special counsel. he will have the same obligation here after indicting two trump associates for the exact same

ignoring a subpoena i think he will have to do it. if he doesn't, i will come back on here and say that is the most obvious example of the two-tier system of justice we've seen to date. >> martha: when you watch this process. later on you'll hear the impeachment inquiry vote. the house will decide if they have a simple majority which would allow them to move forward with this impeachment inquiry of the sitting president right now. tell us what your thoughts are there and what you expect to see this afternoon, if that vote goes through. and then what happens politically? >> well, it ratchets up. mike johnson it seems to me would not bring that vote unless he is pretty confident and counted noses to see who will vote for impeachment inquiry and it gives them the most tools to do the investigation. and i think it puts more teeth in what they are doing. at the end of the day, you know,

as i said when president trump was being investigated by the congress under nancy pelosi, impeachment is a political operation and so ultimately i would be more interested in sort of these legal and judicial action including whether or not merrick garland has the guts to enforce a congressional subpoena and future congressional subpoenas if others ignore the legitimate subpoenas. >> martha: thank you very much. a lot going on back to iowa with the beautiful state capitol behind you. see you soon. we'll head out to iowa in a few weeks, big things happening in iowa as the election gets underway and there is the image on the right-hand side of your screen. president biden, who is got to have this on his mind today. his son in front of capitol hill this morning professing that he

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>> martha: growing calls now for harvard president claudine gay and m.i.t. president to resign after failing to outright condemn anti-semitism on their campuses. the house is holding a vote tonight on a resolution call on gay and m.i.t. president to step down. alumni at harvard outraged about their university's response. that's growing. >> i think that every member of the board should ask themselves or herself one question, what would their decision be if only one word of the question that was presented the to the presid changed? instead of jewish genocide, african-american genocide,

christian genocide. would she have given the same appalling answer? and what would their decision be about supporting her? >> martha: washington examner editorial with the headline that says harvard and schools like hers are morally bankrupt and roten institution that radicalize eyeology above all else. pete hegseth is here. dave portnoy says he is refusing to hire any harvard grad until they make a different decision about president gay here. watch this. >> not only me. a lot of leaders have to do it. it was disgusting what the deans and presidents did under oaths. makes no sense to me. if you can't condemn genocide talking jews, muslim, any group of people, then you don't deserve to be in a position of

power. you have to get out. >> martha: it's not just him. the leaders of at least ten other companies have made a similar pledge. do you think the pledges to not hire harvard graduates are effective? are they well pointed in terms of what's going on? >> i don't know if they will be effective, martha, he should extend it indeaf niftily. the change of a president in harvard won't change the overall direction of a university that has not just gone off the deep end but is leading to the downward spiral of our country. its compass is pointing in the opposite direction of our country's founding ideals. i graduated from there. i reject all associations with that place. this is an institution founded to train ministers that now rejects god completely. guided completely by marxist theology and ultimately can't

even call out blatant anti-semitism and hides behind free speech but has the worst free speech record in academia. they are happy to block pro-lifeers, christians, you name it. now you can go from the river to the sea. every adult out there should stop funding it and stop sending kids to it. it is not elite. just expensive. >> martha: they have made their decision to keep this president. as you point out, everybody has free will in this situation. so you can choose, as he is doing and other companies as well, not to want to hire people who are educated at this institution because you might feel like their education won't prepare them well for the job that you want them to do and as parents and students you can say there are a lot of options out there and i want to go somewhere

where there is scholarly debate and where genocide is wrong that can be easy to agree on. i want to ask you about the situation with the families of the hostages still being held. we pass by these individuals and some americans held in the tunnels by hamas. president biden is expected to mete today with the relatives of some of these hostages at the white house who were captured on october 7th. after the white house reportedly denied requests from the families to attend the hanukkah reception at the white house. the father of a 19-year-old idf member told cnn that several of these families of the hostages asked to go to the holiday reception but the families never received an invite to this event.

now there is like a make good, it would appear, the families will come and spend time with the president. >> it's about the easiest invitation in the world to send out. the least we could do in this particular situation. man, what a tough spot for these families. you look at what happened to the families of those in afghanistan who were left behind and those left behind repeatedly by this administration that has a foreign policy completely adrift and now running sideways of the israeli government and netanyahu's efforts to crush hamas and so where does their hope lie? it is on their knees praying but believing this administration will get done what needs to be done without turning into a pawn for a cease-fire that means hamas isn't destroyed. you can understand the emotional connection these families have. where do they turn if the white house can't embrace them let alone do something directly to get americans back?

>> martha: president biden says netanyahu needs a different government and stronger stance in terms of what they -- >> the white house is peddling a two-state solution that doesn't exist. israeli government is more clear eyed and right wing. no surprise it is coming in public now. >> martha: always good to see you. hunter biden did appear on capitol hill today at least on the sidewalk and gave reporters an earful this morning but skipped the closed-door deposition that he had been summoned to by house republicans. the political impact this could have on today's house vote on the impeachment inquiry into his father, the president of the united states. former utah congressman jason chaffetz joins us next. here's a great way to get your monthly payments under control. call newday! while credit card rates can be 22% or more mortgage rates at newday are a fraction of those rates. with one easy

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>> martha: so as you saw hunter biden showed up on capitol hill sort of today. he was a no show for the

closed-door deposition and question and answer period. he sort of came out, made his statement in front of the microphones and told reporters he would be ready to testify if there were cameras in the room, open testimony but had this to say about gop lawmakers and his father. watch this. >> they have tried to dehumanize me all to embarrass and damage my father, who has devoted his entire public life to service. let me state as clearly as i can, my father was not financially involved in my business, not as a practicing lawyer, not as a board member of burisma, not in my partnership with a chinese private businessman, not in my investments at home nor abroad. certainly not as an artist. >> martha: love the end there, certainly not as an artist. we thought they were. today's legal proceeding is just one of the many facing the first son. last week he was indicted on tax

charges in california that have been around for quite some time. finally got embedded on those on top of the gun charges in delaware and federal tax evasion charges after all of this fell apart and the sweetheart plea deal. now it all spilled open and they are going through it bit by bit. david spunt live on capitol hill with the latest for us today. hi, david. >> hi, martha. it was a risk for hunter biden to come into this room behind me here at the rayburn building to answer questions because he is under active indictment. anything you say or do will be used against you in a court of law. this is not a real court of law but facing serious charges in federal court. i want to show you video of the empty room behind me where hunter biden was supposed to be answering questions, honoring the subpoena and answering questions from both republicans and democrats, closed door under oath and we would have received a transcript. ho here is more of what the

first son had to say outside the capitol come plax. >> i am here to testify at a public hearing today to answer any of the committee's legitimate questions. republicans do not want an open process where americans can see delay their tactics, expose their baseless inquiry or hear what i have to say. what are they afraid of? i'm here. i'm ready. >> hunter biden says he was ready to testify publicly. the actual subpoena calls for that closed-door deposition where he would be under oath. chairman james comer of the oversight committee when asked today said he is fine with hunter biden coming and testifying publicly but wants him behind closed doors first. watch this. >> chairman jordan and i have been very clear when we issued lawful subpoena to the president's son that we expect

him to come in and be deposed. this is a normal process in the investigation and been a serious, credible, transparent investigation from day one. we published four bank memorandums and press conferences. this is about public corruption at the highest level. >> now chairman comer and jim jordan, the chairman of the judiciary committee say they will move forward with a contempt vote in these local committees before going to the full house. that could come several dailies from now after that process plays out. >> martha: as was brought up before in the cases of navarro and bannon who refused to appear as well, they were held in contempt by this justice department. so just your reporting on these stories tell you that is what has to happen here for hunter biden as well? >> well, it is a great question. after it goes to the house, if a vote makes it out of committee

and he is found in contempt, the vote would go to the full house. if the full house finds him in contempt the u.s. attorney, matthew graves, who was appointed by president joe biden and is the current u.s. attorney here in d.c. would have a serious decision to make. you could make the argument that hunter biden just blatantly ignored the subpoena and didn't show up at all. ignored the subpoena and some say he could prosecute. i've heard other legal minds say that hunter biden did make an offer in a letter to congress to testify publicly, responded in that manner. so you can see both sides of this. ultimately, matthew graves, the biden-appointed u.s. attorney here in washington, d.c. would have a serious decision to make. it sounds like it is going to come to him making a decision. it doesn't seem like republicans are messing around and move forward with contempt. >> martha: one more question if i may. we heard comer say that this is just the procedure. first you go for the closed-door

deposition and then the hearing. if you want to talk about that being public. my precedent for someone going straight to a public hearing and not doing the deposition behind closed doors first in prior situations that were similar? >> i don't know the answer to that. we had a similar situation with david weiss who is the special counsel that is actually overseeing the criminal charges against hunter biden. and the justice department wanted david weiss to testify publicly, though republicans wanted him to testify behind closed doors. d.o.j. said you have one crack at him. we want him to testify publicly. what do you want to do? republicans said we want him behind closed doors. republicans have been consistent in this investigation. they want these interviews to be transcribed in that format, then moved to a public setting. >> martha: that opens them up to criticism from their opposition. we'll see.

david, thank you very much. david spunt on capitol hill today. so critics have been quick to call out hunter biden this morning saying that his dad was not, quote, financially involved in the business. the language keeps evolving on what they say about this. watch this. >> the changing goalposts is significant. joe biden will get hit from the moving goalpost. now the hunter biden team is saying joe was not financially involved. that is a big difference with what the white house was saying not that long ago and where the political rubber hits the road. what's in hunter's legal interest is all of a sudden coming to a clash with the joe biden re-election campaign. >> martha: jason chaffetz, former republican congressman of utah and fox news contributor. good to have you with us. it is interesting he said my dad wasn't financially involved in this business. he wasn't as an attorney and on the board. what do you make of this new language around this,

congressman? >> well, it is a major seismic shift in what they've been saying. first it wasn't having a conversation and where we are today. it fundamentally changed. showing up w with a duly issued subpoena is not optional. you don't get to start negotiating that. it doesn't happen with a judge. would you ever do that in court saying your honor, i don't feel like showing up. >> martha: this is congress, not a court. explain the difference. >> well, you still have a duly issued subpoena. the oversight committee has been doing this since 1814. don't pretend he is suddenly doing something that hasn't been done in the past. it is the option of the chairman as to how they proceed and both sides get equal time in asking questions but it is how you get to the truth. how you pursue the facts. >> martha: i want to switch gears for a moment.

the united nations general assemblyly voted overwhelmingly in favor of a cease-fire in the israel/gaza ongoing war. 153 countries voted in favor. 23 abstained, ten voted against. after the vote democrat representative from delaware interrupted vice president kamala harris during a speech at a holiday party. watch this. >> madam vice president, i'm from the state of delaware. [inaudible] did you know in bethlehem baby jesus would be in the rubble? [inaudible]. >> martha: she turned you around and said i'm speaking now. what is your reaction when you

watch that? >> incredibly rude. maybe somebody could talk to her and say he has risen and maybe we could have that discussion. but i thought the vice president was in a tough spot with the home team crowd and it was totally inappropriate how that happened. >> martha: there has been a lot of discussion about the fact that there is no manger in manger square this year and there was an artistic rendering showing jesus on top of rubble to depict what has been going on there. obviously this member of congress not happy about it from delaware. we'll see. thank you, jason, good to see you. thank you for being here. nikki haley getting crucial support from new hampshire's king maker. watch. >> i am going to endorse nikki haley for president. >> martha: she hoped for his massive endorsement and shake up

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>> martha: nicki halo scoring the endorsement of chris sununu six weeks before the state's primary. sununu and haley talked about it this morning. watch this. >> this isn't an endorsement to

say the governor -- i'm endorsing her so you have to get behind it. everyone is realizing nicki makes the connection with individuals. it's awesome. >> the momentum is on our side. people know that we have a country to save and they know that it is time for a new generational leader. and look, wouldn't it be nice if we had to live free or die country? it's time we do that. >> martha: donald trump still holds a significant lead over haley in new hampshire. 45 to 18. doug collins, and scott bolden, good to have you both with us today. thank you for joining us. doug, let me start with you as the republican here because this is about the gop primary for starters. what is your reaction? how meaningful is this endorsement and will it make any difference given the big gap in new hampshire? >> not surprising. sununu has been looking for

anybody else besides trump to endorse. i don't think it will make a big difference. it hasn't made a big difference in iowa and new hampshire. interesting that we have momentum and you are still 30 points behind the frontrunner. most any other time these would not be covered. i think it is important for haley. she is a boost for her in new hampshire in a little way but i don't see it right now changing the perspective. donald trump is way ahead and on his way to win new hampshire. >> martha: your thoughts as you look at it from the democratic perspective. joe biden is in south carolina not new hampshire. it annoyed a lot of democrats to participate in having everybody on the ballot in new hampshire. >> i'm confused. i agree with the congressman. endorsement won't make much of a difference here. you can't make up 30 points

unless you get a ground game and money. still a popularity contest. the democrats have control where they go first. they will go to south carolina. it is a much more diverse state and made that choice. i don't think that will make a difference, biden is baked in as the nominee and i will be honest with you, if nikki haley wins the nomination it will be a real challenge for the democrats in the general. >> martha: we've seen the polling for nikki haley versus joe biden. she have is ahead by ten, 14 points, doug collins. what do you make of that when you look at how difficult it will be as you pointed out for anybody to get over the primary hump with donald trump there? >> i think the issue is also polling in the last week you have had donald trump up four to five points over joe biden as well. nikki haley is a different candidate. if that was to happen you would see a difference in closing up. the nation is closer but at this point most all republicans

understand joe biden is not something we want to continue for four years and our nominee will be there and i think donald trump is in the position he is right now would also beat joe biden as well. >> martha: i have ten seconds scott. what do you think the impeachment inquiry this afternoon? >> you have to have a high crime and misdemeanor. republicans haven't identified one. you can't have an idea of a crime you need a crime and then you do the inquiry. they aren't there yet. it is a political process. we have to see. >> martha: thank you very much. doug collins and scott bolden, thank you for joining us. thank you for watching "the faulkner focus" today. i'm martha maccallum and i'll be back at 3:00 this afternoon on the "the story" where we expect we'll hear how the vote goes in the house. a big lineup for us, "outnumbered" is up right after the break.

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