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>> there is no fairness or decency in what these republicans are doing. what are they afraid of? i'm here. >> this is a normal process in an investigation. this has been a serious credible transparent investigation from day one. >> witnesses don't want to come in only to have a closed door deposition and then have their words mangled. >> sandra: you saw a moment ago hunter biden defiant on capitol hill this morning refusing to appear for a closed door deposition that he was subpoenaed for, and now house republicans are moving to hold him in contempt. and just moments ago, the president chose to ignore many shouted questions to him from reporters about just that. >> so we could begin our briefing. thank you, thank you, thank you. >> mr. president, mr. president, should your son have defied the

subpoena? >> did you watch -- did you watch hunter this morning? >> mr. president [bleep] >> sandra: ok, went straight to bars and we know peter doocy was in the mix, he shouted to the president, did you watch hunter this morning, mr. president, and are you worried about being impeached. he was ignored when posing thohe questions to the president. hello, well come everyone, i'm sandra smith in new york. >> john: john roberts in washington. this is "america reports". we promise we will not go to bars arbitrarily. not to say it won't happen, but not on purpose. hunter biden says maga republicans are targeting him and his family and compare his remarks with previous statements from the white house, the language regarding his father and his relation to hunter's business appears to be changing yet again. listen to this. >> i've never discussed my business or their business, my son's or daughter's. >> i've never spoken to my son about his overseas business. >> my answer remains the same, the president was never in

business with his son. >> my father was not financially involved in my business. >> sandra: president biden insisted he did not discuss his son's business dealings and press secretary said he was never in business with his son, and now hunter says he was never financially involved. karine jean-pierre takes to the podium a few minutes from now. >> john: not the only issue dogging president biden today, across the street on capitol hill, lawmakers are right now debating whether to start an impeachment inquiry, that vote expected to happen later on today. house speaker mike johnson says he is confident the resolution will pass. hillary vaughan has been tracking all of it. we saw you there on the sidelines of that hunter biden public statement, a lot of people are calling it a news conference, but you have to take questions if it was a news conference. what was that like?

>> exactly, john. well, today house lawmakers got stood up, that did not mean that hunter biden did not show up to capitol hill, he just came here to talk to us, the press. he claimed his innocence and insisted that his dad, president joe biden was not financially involved in his business. even though the reason why he defied the subpoena, because he said he did not want t take questions behind closed doors in secret. he would not take our questions out in the open on camera either. >> mr. biden, was it worth it trying to sell the family name? do you want president biden to pardon you, sir? worth it, selling the family name? >> have you asked your father for a pardon? >> why aren't you testifying before the committee today? >> how did you get into so much trouble? >> the stage was set for hunter biden, complete with a name card

and mic for that closed door interview, but since he was a no-show, the oversight committee will start the process to hold him in contempt, saying hunter biden defied a lawful subpoena today and we will initiate contempt of congress proceedings. there will be no special treatment because his last name is biden. house democrats rallied around his decision to skip the deposition. >> i stand here very confused. later today the -- we are going to take a vote on opening a formal impeachment inquiry because as the republicans say they need more evidence. hunter biden is here today. the central witness in this entire investigation. ready to give evidence to the republicans and they have refused to accept it. >> hunter biden's lawyers blasted the subpoena as illegitimate because the house did not pass the formal impeachment inquiry.

all of that is about to change today as house republicans will vote on the resolution and are hoping to make it official. if hunter biden is found in contempt of congress and is ultimately prosecuted for it, he could face up to a year in jail just adding another legal problem to his pile of legal problems that are adding up pretty quickly, john. >> john: your intrepity is something to behold. >> sandra: kerri kupec urbahn, former counselor to attorney general bill barr. thanks for coming on the program. hunter failed to show up, what does that mean in the big picture here? >> kerri: congress can hold him in contempt now and did so for peter navarro, steve bannon, and checking to see how long it took from the time that steve bannon blew off his congressional subpoena to when he was referred and convicted, prosecuted, sentenced, and that was less than a year.

so, interesting t see if doj applies the same standard of justice they applied against peter navarro and bannon as against the president's son. >> john: that will be curious, run by you again what hunter biden said about being in business with his father and the latest evolution in the language. listen again here. >> there is no evidence to support the allegations that my father was financially involved in my business because it did not happen. by cherry picking lines from a bank statement, manipulating texts i sent, editing the testimony of my friends and foreign business partners, misstating personal information that was stolen from me. >> john: there is no evidence to support the allegation that my father was financially involved in my business. yet another evolution in a language, your reaction. >> kerri: statement was not good for his father, so hunter biden may have gotten out temporarily of being deposed today but this

was a loss for joe biden, the way i look at it. if anything, i think it bolsters the republicans argument why they have to move forward with their inquiry and we play the montage of the various goal post shiftings over the last year, but just last week that joe biden said it was "a bunch of lies" that he even interated with hunter's business associates, we know is not true from white house visitor logs, messages, emails from the business associates themselves. hunter has contradicted his father on a number of things. if i'm on the committee looking to launch this inquiry into impeachment, number one question i would have, why does joe biden keep lying. if there's nothing to hide, if there's no problem, why keep -- that's what these things are. they are lies and a lot of them are silly lies and easily proven false and so if anything, i think that alone gives them the basis to move forward, to just ask well, why.

>> sandra: we have the white house briefing coming up, the first time we have seen karine jean-pierre, likely asked from reporters one would expect in th, we have our own in the room, peter doocy included, what do you think the messaging is going to be from this white house that is clearly evolved, their message has evolved over time? >> kerri: we know they are going to refer to hunter biden's lawyers or white house counsel or anyone not standing at the podium. i don't expect a lot of information there. shifting and messaging, it's a big problem and if that messaging shifting had not occurred as it has been all along, i'm not sure we would be at this vote today. it's that shift plus the evidence of these payments when we don't know what services were provided for these payments to hunter biden, all of the closeness in which he and his father shared associates, conversations as they went to ukraine, china and the like and just a lot of question marks and

i think it's quite reasonable for the republicans to want to get answers to those questions. >> john: to that end, we saw the democrats earlier today, we just played the sound bite saying let's have it out in public in the hearing. well, let's rewind the clock here to july 10, 2022, when congresswoman lofgren was explaining the importance of having these closed door depositions before the january 6th committee. listen to this. >> you know, this goes on for hour after hour after hour, we want to get all our questions answered and you can't do that in a live format. >> john: mic drop. >> kerri: yes, and two points on that. one, the democrats keep saying well, it's because the republicans will mangle his words and you will not get the real story, wait a second, the committee has been releasing the transcript to the public on the internet anyone can search for and read for themselves and decide for themselves. once they read that testimony.

number two, unfortunately anyone who has watched a congressional hearing knows it's not the best forum when one wants to get to the bottom of something. [laughter] >> john: we had katie pavlich bursting our bubble a few minutes ago, and now you are doing it again. >> kerri: it's true and tragic, people are watching the hearings and say to themselves and i know from my own family and friends, let them answer the questions because they don't. the members use the hearings to grandstand, make campaign speeches and don't let the witness answer, why someone like a hunter biden or others say oh, yeah, sure, we'll appear before the committee publicly, they know they don't have to speak that much. behind closed doors, serious lawyers are going to grill them and i think it was a pretty calculated but risky move from hunter biden's defense team to have him blow off thsubpoena which says to me they must be very concerned that it's worth the risk of hunter biden being prosecuted and possibly going to

prison rather than him testifying before, behind closed doors with serious lawyers who can get serious answers. >> sandra: kerri, thank you very much for joining us. all right. now this. >> they are just not numbers and they are just not faces. they are sons, they are sons, they are grandparents, they are mothers. >> they are willing and ready to do all that they possibly can by any number of means to get the hostages home. >> sandra: all right, president biden has just wrapped a meeting with the families of american hostages held by hamas at the white house. today israeli jets are targeting hezbollah sites in lebanon, tensions are growing between the white house and tel aviv. netanyahu is dismissing calls to reduce the bombing campaign in gaza saying nothing will stop us. joining us now is lieutenant colonel jonathan conricus, idf international spokesperson. jonathan, thank you for joining

us. what needs to happen on the part of israel for them to prevail? >> well, thank you for having me. what we need to do is to continue fighting, to continue to apply pressure on hamas, to continue to fight them in the tunnels and in the buildings and wherever they hide. by the way, hamas, and we have documented this now every day for the last weeks, hamas uses school schools, mosques, and civilian buildings to conduct fighting from, what we need to do, remain pressure on them until they either surrender or die inside their tunnels and until we are able to get our hostages back, most importantly, to make sure they would be safe for our civilians to finally return home. i cannot say that we are there yet, but this is where we will be at the end of this war. >> sandra: what about the rising tensions between the white house and israel and benjamin netanyahu as he continues with

his bombing campaign in gaza. are those real, are the tensions real, what can you tell us on that front? >> i think that on the real battlefield on the ground what we are seeing and understanding is straight unequivocal u.s. support for our operation in our war to dismantle hamas and return security to israelis in southern israel. i think that's very clear. that's what we hear from our u.s. military counterparts and i think that a lot of what's being mentioned in the media is a lot of talk in order to fill air time at the end of the day, we know what we are doing, we know that we are fighting according to humanitarian law. we are very careful not to hit civilians and we do, we go to extreme lengths to safeguard civilians. we warn ahead of time, get them out of the battlefield and the end of the day, the war will end only with defeat of hamas,

whatever happens until that is clear, those are details at the end of this war, hamas must be defeated. >> sandra: ok. on this plan to flood the tunnels with sea water, "wall street journal" ran the headline yesterday, israel begins pumping sea water into hamas' gaza tunnels. what will the effect of this be, jonathan? >> at this stage i can't confirm any tactic or technique that we are using. i can just say as hamas has been digging tunnels for 17 or more than that years inside gaza, we of course have been preparing ourselves with various capabilities before and we are also developing new ones as we are fighting. at the end of the day, we are learning and we are applying various tools that we have at our disposal. the tunnels are a tremendous asset for hamas, for the time being. once we stop operating above and

blowing them apart and applying other tactics they have, they will turn from assets to a liability to death traps and graves for hamas terrorists that have been using them to fight against our troops and of course to fire rockets at civilians from. >> sandra: got it. jonathan, got it. we have john kirby in the press briefing room. now live to the white house, john kirby. >> i would only add the president was grateful for the time they afforded him and he was moved by the stories, by the love they feel, the hope they still harbor and he harbors that hope, too. as karine rightly noted acting on that. and he promised we will keep them informed every single step of the way and do that. these are difficult days for the families. as we all prepare for the holiday season that's already upon us, we would do well to remember that for them there's going to be an empty chair at the table, a still and silence in the room, and there's going

to be irrepressible ache and worry and fear, the president understands that, the whole team understands that, keep them in our thoughts, and in israel and gaza who has been deeply and affected by the attacks of october 7th. delvish attacks by terrorists intent on taking innocent life. this is a war that hamas has brought on itself and we all want it to stop because any war is horrific, hamas has pledged to repeat october 7th again and again and again. it has pledged to annihilate israel and kill as many jews as possible. still holding over 100 hostages, including young women it refused to release in violation of a deal that it negotiated in doha. we know what they have proven capable of doing to young women. while we all want the war to end as soon as possible to establish

conditions for enduring peace, something the president and the entire team continues to pursue, a unilateral ceasefire with a terrorist group like hamas is not the answer. as the president has said hamas could release the hostages today, they could surrender all those responsible for the october 7th attacks and lay down their arms and thehe war would stop immediately. if they really cared about the palestinian people the way they claim to, they would do this. that they haven't done it i think speaks volumes. for our part, on the other hand, we are working every day to bring in as much humanitarian assistance to the people of gaza and reduce civilian harm. as we speak, our team is working with the u.n. and with the israelis on corridors to facilitate the flow of aid and on brief daily pauses to allow people to get access to the assistance. i don't want to go into those details right now, but jake sullivan is travelling in the region, he'll likely have more to say about this when he's in

israel tomorrow, as will david and the team working the issues on the ground. and working for a crossings open for inspections increasing the aid, and through the crossing into gaza. the prime minister of israel has said today that this is likely to move forward and that will be another topic of jake's meetings. this will be the first direct entry from aid to israel into gaza since the 7th of october. so it's not insignificant. of course jake will also discuss the next phase of the military campaign and efforts to be more surgical and more precise and reduce harm to civilians. that is an aim of ours and the israelis say an aim of theirs. but it's the results that count. the president yesterday reflected the reality of global opinion which also matters. our support for israel is not diminished. but we have had concerns and we have expressed those concerns about the prosecution of this

military campaign, even while acknowledging that it's hamas that started this and it's hamas that is continuing it. jake's visit tomorrow follows the president's call with prime minister benjamin netanyahu on friday, they spoke over an hour and in some detail about the coming weeks and when we hope and expect to see. i'm not going to get ahead of the conversations jake would be having but i would like to say these are extremely serious conversations and we hope they'll be constructive as well. depending -- i'm almost done spending opening of karim shalom, there needs to be more. one last note, today marks the one year anniversary of president biden's africa leaders summit, last year convened delegations from the african union and 49 african countries to broaden and deepen our partnership and meaningful out comes across the continent. we have made significant progress on the summit

commitment, welcoming the african union to the g20, closing more than 500 trade inn investment deals valued at more than $14 billion and elevating our work on infrastructure, digital transformation, and just the start, we look forward to continuing to build on the commitments and strengthening our partnerships going forward. >> president yesterday alluded to remarks, said israel was engaged in in discriminate bombing in gaza and cost israel international global support. does he believe thus far they have been in accordance with international law. >> we have every expectation that israel will do exactly what they say they are doing, continue to go after the terrorist leaders and do so in a way that minimizes civilian harm. as i said in my opening statement, as the president said, that's their intent and it's important that ththe resul match that intent.

>> so the president was saying yesterday that the results have not thus far matched that intent. >> he was expressing concerns that we continue to see civilian casualties in gaza, and again, that we want to make sure that as they work to minimize, that they actually have those kinds of results, that they are able to minimize civilian casualties. >> so you are calling on the state department there was not a formal u.s. government determination that israel was engaged in indiscriminate bombing. is the president's comment yesterday, speaking to the u.s. government there, obviously speaking to donors -- >> the president was expressing concerns again as i said about the civilian casualties that we have seen and again it's reflective of our constant efforts to urge the israelis to be as precise and careful as possible and again, we know they have stated their intent to

reduce civilian casualties and they have acted on that. i mean, the way they went into the north and a much smaller force than they had said they were going to do or planning to do, by publishing a map online so people know where to go, by agreeing to additional now daily pauses in the fighting. they are making efforts and they are taking steps but we want to see, of course, we want to see more results in that regard. that's what he's referring to. >> the president in that same fundraiser said israel needs to make a change to its government. what exactly did he mean by that. does he mean -- >> the president realizes that israel is a powerful, vibrant democracy and any change in the government is going to have to be determined by the israeli people. >> thanks, appreciate it. if the president believes israel is engaging in indiscriminate bombing, wouldn't there be an obligation from the u.s. to put new conditions on military aid? >> every bit of security assistance we give any country

always comes with the expectation the law of armed conflict will be reflected and obeyed. we are not going to assess every airstrike from this podium, that would not be appropriate. israelis speak to their operations but we expect they will act in accordance with the law of armed conflict and do everything they can to match their intent, to minimize civilian casualties. >> if they aren't, then isn't there an obligation for the u.s. to change the way that it's delivering military aid? >> that's a hypothetical i'm not prepared to -- i'm not going to engage in. we have expressed our concerns, the president has, publicly and privately with the israelis to reduce the civilian casualties and we will continue to do that. i expect you will see jake address this too in the region. >> is there a concern that hostages are -- >> sandra: we are going to continue to monitor the white

house briefing with john kirby as the news comes in. obviously he is trying to shed light on the ongoing hostage situation and it is the goal of the white house to continue to fight to get those hostages released each and every day. we are going to continue to watch this, huge news out of the white house, including all the happenings with hunter biden and the president this morning. >> john: indeed. another piece of news is that the national security adviser, dan sullivan, will be meeting with prime minister benjamin netanyahu, you can imagine what's on the agenda there, making sure we limit, or israel, rather, limits civilian casualties. there's also some idea that the white house would like to see military operations wrapped up sooner rather than later. >> sandra: so we are going to keep watching that for you. the house is set to vote on a resolution for the heads of mit and harvard to resign. >> tells chad pergram it is expected to pass, we expect the

vote to happen some time after 5:00 p.m. today. the resolution says harvard president claudine gay and mit press sally kornbluth should resign like u-penn president liz magill did. condemns their congressional testimonies last week. like massachusetts congressman and harvard grad voicing outrage as well. >> hypocrisy, the harvard, five years with cancel culture as the norm on the campus and now that antisemitism has flared up it has decided to embrace free speech principles. >> resolution also condemns antisemitism on college campuses, citing an anti-defamation league report finding 400 antisemitism incidents on college campuses since october 7, '12 times more than the same time last year. harvard is standing by claudine

gay, even amid allegations of plagiarism, and jackie rosen sent it, and asking for a comprehensive review of all university and college harassment policies and codes of conduct in light of that hearing last week. >> sandra: seems necessary at this point for sure, bryan, thank you. john. >> john: sandra, bring in bill bennett, former education secretary in the reagan administration and point out, a graduate of harvard. bill, good to be with us. let me ask you about the resolution. sponsored by stefanik, scalise, and two others, calls for the

firing of both claudine gay and sally kornbluth. obviously it carries no weight but the bipartisan nature is very interesting. >> yeah, it is bipartisan and that is unusual as you note. i'm not really in favor of government intruding into the affairs of these universities. however, this one touches on international politics, war, the decline of the west civilization, various large topics. but you know, it should be the people at harvard who figure this out. now we have a majority of faculty, it appears, who are voting to keep claudine gay as president. harvard used to be a very distinguished place. it's not anymore. >> john: wow, and as an alum, that's a big statement to make. university of pennsylvania forced liz magill to resign and i think a lot of that came after

mega donor ross stephens said i'm going to pull my $100 million donation to the school unless she is gone. bill ackman, a harvard alum, is saying similar things. i don't think he's threatening to pull 100 million, i don't think he's got that in it, but harvard staff and faculty are pushing back against ackman. harvard law professor told the "new york times" ackman is an interloper, saying we cannot function as a university from random rich guys and what they mobilize on twitter. they are saying to ackman go pound sand we know better than you. >> graduates are not interlopers, they are the heart and soul of the university, along with the faculty, which is disgraced itself. you know, the same university was punishing people for the wrong pronouns. the harvard hockey coach,

women's hockey coach may not last because at, after a game she said you know, the problem with that people is too many chiefs and not enough indians. well, my goodness, how offensive could that be, my football coach said much worse things to me. so, that is an offensive comment but intifada, running around campus, banners and flags, no. this is the way the west commits suicide and the ambiguity, by the way, of this country and our president, vis-a-vis israel, you know, end this war, end this war. we didn't hear that in world war ii. we just said do it right, finish it and finish it once and for all. not be careful and don't touch any -- any civilians. these -- these are problems -- go ahead. >> john: no, go ahead. >> i was going to say, university -- the universities

used to have the high ground, you know. teddy roosevelt was president and charles eliot was president of harvard. roosevelt would call harvard's president, charles eliot, and secretary to eliot would say hold on, mr. roosevelt, the president will speak to you now. that's what harvard used to mean. it ain't that anymore. >> john: some people say it's come a long way down since then. >> shame. it accounts for a lot of the decline in our schools, declines -- counts for the decline in our schools, too. >> john: thank you, bill. appreciate it. >> sandra: we are watching the happenings in the white house press briefing room that are ongoing, john kirby still taking questions, karine jean-pierre will be back at the microphone shortly. lawmakers, watching the house floor as well, lawmakers are expected to vote to formalize an impeachment into the president. s the beat of life.

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>> sandra: ok, so this happened just a short time ago, the federal reserve out with its last interest rate decision of the year, and it was no change to interest rates and that is the federal reserve chair jay powell, speaking live right now and the press availability, he does almost every time after there's a rate decision so we listen for any movement in the market. dow jones industrial average, you see the spike after the no change in interest rates. it is on pace for a record close. steve moore is here, former trump adviser, ok, markets like the no change but i think they are digging in deeper and they are looking at the federal reserve which also is indicating that they are going to start lowering rates in the new year and on into 2025. that would be welcome news to a lot of folks. >> sure would. first of all, criminally negligent if the fed had raised interest rates. they have done it 11 times in

the last year and a half and that's taken a lot of punch out of the economy. we want a strong resilient economy. by the way, the single most important thing the government could do to lower inflation is produce more american energy. >> sandra: prices are coming down. >> they are, but come down faster if we are producing more. next year the fed is, according to the report that came out today, i just was reading it befofocame out, predicted 2% inflation, so predicting back at the target rate. >> sandra: do you think it's possible? >> it's a bit of a leap. i hope they are right about that but better be sure. prices today, sandra, are about 20% higher than they were when trump came into office. and that's caused an incredible squeeze on american families. >> sandra: 2% could be pretty difficult to achieve, unless there's price controls. apparently democrats are pushing

and supportive of setting price controls to control inflation. who is going to tell 'em? that's not the way the free market capitalist system works. but 80% -- well, it does, sounds like a great idea. you know what, let's just cap prices. we have seen the president come out and tell companies stop raising prices. well, they do that if they have to -- if they have to raise their wages to recruit and attract workers, i mean, there's a lot that goes into why prices go up. and federal spending is one of those reasons. >> well put, sandra. rather than having price controls, why don't they control spending in washington which has been the driver of inflation over the last two and a half years, this 6 to $8 trillion increase in spending. every single penny of that, sandra, was borrowed with printed money so that caused the inflation. if anybody is still around from the carter administration era, they can tell you this is something that jimmy carter tried. they had price controls on oil and gas and all of these

industries, and you know, the inflation went right through the roof, it never worked. i would say that there's one thing almost all economists agree on, wage and price controls never work and yet looks like the biden people want to do it. >> sandra: so the federal reserve as jay powell continues speaking there, they are suggesting and rate futures are now pricing in more than 100 basis point cut in the new year. you know that's the cme fed watcher, i've watched that throughout my career, and it can be very accurate. that would be a big deal for car loans, you know, home purchases. >> mortgages. >> sandra: what does that look like, if there's 100 basis points cuts in the new year, what does that do to the economy? >> well, it could mean lower mortgages, for example, lower credit card fees, all of these things. so it could be helpful. here is the problem. if they are cutting the rates too quickly, then you know, you

are going to see the resurge of inflation. >> sandra: prices go up. >> look to what happened inflation in the 70s, the last time we had out of control inflation, times when the inflation rate would come down and then back up, and down and back up again, i hope it's not premature. the job of the federal reserve board is to give us stable prices, the good news is -- bad news is, 9% inflation last year, remember that, now it's down to 3 to 3.5%, we have to get it down to 2 and that's what the fed should keep its eye on. >> sandra: what grade do you give jay powell on the handling, tackling of the inflation. >> i give him a c. you know what i want to see out of him, a lot of fed chairmen used to do, volker and greenspan and others, he should be talking to congress, hey, you want to bring inflation down, cut government spending, cut government debt. that's the biggest problem for the american economy is making the fed's job harder. >> sandra: look at that, steve.

markets, they are listening. >> addicted to cheap money. >> sandra: you see the green go up one more tick, 366 point gain. >> almost at 37,000 on the dow, amazing thing. the problem is the wall street people are addicted to cheap money and that could be, sometimes -- the next day, you know. >> sandra: cheap money, they had free money for a while. john. >> john: that's just a few points away from a day high, see how it goes. new concerns and major warning a terror attack to hit the most wonderful time of the year, as more suspected terrorists cross our southern border. former dhs secretary chad wolf is here on the fbi's dire warning. type 2 diabetes? discover the ozempic® tri-zone. ♪ ♪ i got the power of 3. i lowered my a1c, cv risk, and lost some weight. in studies, the majority of people reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it. i'm under 7. ozempic® lowers the risk of major cardiovascular

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>> i am concerned that we are in elevated threat environment, heightened threat environment from foreign terrorist organizations and obviously their ability to exploit any port of entry, including our southwest border is a source of concern. >> john: the fbi and the department of homeland security warning americans are heightened threats to public safety this holiday season saying the war in the middle east could inspire lone wolf-style attacks at home, the bulletin comes as border patrol sources tell fox news, more than 10,000 migrant encounters at the southern border the last 24 hours, numerous people on the terrorist watch list have been detained in recent weeks. ongoing tensions related to the conflict between hamas and israel heightened lone actor iran, holiday related,

faith-based, new year's eve and protected answer related to the conflict. chris wray said the lights are blinking red again. how do you assess the threat. >> i think he's right. any time you go into a holiday period, look at large gatherings, so u.s. officials are always on alert, whether it's christmas or thanksgiving or whatever it might be. put that on top of what's going on in israel and you see what's going on on college campuses and elsewhere and gives you a sense of concern. and overlay the southern border, and the amount of threats coming across that border and so you have almost this confluence of different issues at stake where the threat as the director has said is heightened. >> john: we have seen so much antisemitism across the country and this picture from yesterday, i believe, of a protestor with a palestinian flag climbing a hanukkah menorah and trying to plant that flag on the top. as troubling as that display is,

it was peaceful, but we have seen other protests that have not been so peaceful. paul kessler was killed at thousand oaks during a pro-palestinian rally. would you think that the antisemitism that we are seeing across the country might lead to a fatal attack? >> i think it could, and i think the director has talked about this. it's mainly, i see it mainly from the lone actor, the individual that's probably here in the united states, could be an american citizen or could be here on a valid visa, that is "being inspired" but what he or she is seeing overseas and in the united states and decides to take some action. it could be lethal action. so i think that's what most law enforcement officials are concerned about versus a big organized terror plot but i would not rule that out either. we know the southern border is wide open, hamas, hezbollah and others are here in the united states, that is a known fact to intelligence officials. so, i think there's a number of

things to be concerned about. >> john: people from syria have been coming across the border and not everybody in syria is on the up and up. 5,000 people are being paroled into the country every day, you said with got-aways, it's closer to 8,000. when you are paroling 5,000 people a day, how do you have the checks and balances and the got-aways, we have no idea. how much of a threat -- >> you cannot properly vet them. the biden administration says we check the individuals but this many coming across the border every day, law enforcement assets don't line up to do proper vets going on with all the individuals. so, some are being processed very quickly and released into the country, and those are the concerning ones along with the got-aways we never see. >> john: we have to get right over time, the terrorists only need to get it right once. chad, good to see you. karine jean-pierre, expecting her to take some questions on hunter biden. >> not going to get into parts

of this right announcement we want to see a bipartisan compromise, we want a bipartisan compromise on this, it's an important issue, we have said the border security is an important issue. i'm not going to go into piecemeal of what is discussed. i'm not going to get into hypotheticals from here. the conversations are happening, negotiations are happening with members of our team here and obviously congressional leaders. we are encouraged by the progress that's been made. we understand that we need to see and the president understands we have to find a bipartisan compromise here. >> president spent a lot of time in congress, does he believe congressional subpoenas are something that individuals can ignore? >> i'm just not going to speak to that. just not. >> why not? >> are you -- you want to be more specific on your question? >> he's a former senator, issued subpoenas in his career -- >> i'm going to have you speak

to the white house counsel on this, not going to speak on that. >> two things. taking office and after issuing the legislation thatat has gone nowhere in congress regarding the boborder, the president issd an executive order saying he would restore and strength our asylum system badly damaged by policies enacted over the last four years, caused needless human suffering. our reporting, others reporting indicates the white house through sources in the administration is open to authority that would allow it to suspend asylum processing when there is a spike in border crossings. wouldn't that be a major policy reversal and revert back to the last four years? >> i'm not going to go into specific, not going to negotiate from the podium, let the conversation happen. we have to find a bipartisan compromise, that's what the president said, what he believes in order to deal with this issue and you started off your question asking or laying out, actually, that the president did

put forth and you laid that out in your question a comprehensive immigration reform plan, did it on day one. on three years, three years -- here is the thing. >> he's met with them on foreign policy, fiscal -- budget, and never immigration -- >> and we have regular conversations with congressional leaders and staff on array of issues, including this. you cannot send a bigger message to congress and the american people when you say your first, put out your first piece of legislation is on this issue, is on reforming immigration, right. it's on fixing -- >> you spend very little public time as president talking about the issue, meeting with congressional leaders on the issue specifically, or doing anything else other than having you come out here and say we issued a bill on day one. >> i disagree, it's not just issue a bill, not too long ago, back in the spring we put forth policies on trying to make sure that because -- because congress

didn't help, on trying to put forth policies that tried to make the immigration system humane, right, humane and actually dealing with the issue that we are seeing at the border. we have taken policy actions after policy actions without -- without the help from congress. without. right, and so that is -- that is being consistent here, and when you put forth the first piece of legislation to be on this issue, it has been broken for decades, that's what he did as president. that's taking it seriously. >> mitch mcconnell alluded to a conversation he had with the president, not asking for names, but can you confirm the president has spoken to get the supplemental done. >> the president has been in touch with congressional leaders and so as his staff. >> any time watching what his son had to say outside the capitol? >> a couple things on that and be really clear. look, as you know, hunter biden

is a private citizen and so i certainly would refer you to his representatives. look, the president was certainly familiar with what his son was going to say and i think what you saw was from the heart from his son and you've heard, you've heard me say this, heard the president say this when it comes to the president and the first lady, they are proud of him continuing to rebuild his life. they are proud of their son. but i do want to say a couple things here is that i think i can touch on is that the president is also focused on the important work of the american people. we just went back and forth about what's happening at the border and how he wants to make sure that we secure the border and the work that he and his team has been doing on negotiating to make sure there is a bipartisan compromise. you saw him yesterday stand right next to president zelenskyy. there could not have been a more powerful picture with the president of the united states

standing next to president zelenskyy who he and the brave people in ukraine are fighting, fighting for their democracy. right, and this is something the president has led on, the world on making sure president zelenskyy and the people of ukraine to beat tyra -- tyranny and fight against aggression. and how he met with hostages held by hamas and how emotional and impactful that meeting was. that was a two-hour, two-hour meeting that he had with the family members. and it was important. it was important. he just convened, right, a meeting on infrastructure. so he's going to remain focused on making sure that we continue to deliver for the american people, that's what the president has done since day one, i'll leave it there. >> is the president -- >> did not have a chance to question -- >> i will, thank you, though.

is the president ok with his son defying congressional subpoena? >> i'm just not going to get into specifics on that. i would have to refer you to the president's -- not the president, but hunter's personal representatives. he's a private citizen, i'm not going to get into it. >> can you tell us when the last time the two of them spoke? >> i'm not going to get into private conversations the president has with his family. that's nothing new, not going to get into it. >> they say they have to take the vote formalizing the impeachment inquiry because the who us is stone walling them. your response to that. >> the white house is stone walling the house republicans who have been -- who have been really pushing -- pushing this impeachment without any evidence, without doing this political stunt, i mean, that's what they have been doing over and over again and we have said it, other republicans have said it. there's no evidence here. there's not. you know, i just said at the top

they are going to go home tomorrow, right, they are going to go home this week and what have they done. we need critical aid to ukraine, have they got that done. we need to secure the border, have they gotten that done. we need to make sure we avert a government shutdown in january. have they had conversations to get that done. instead, they focus on baseless political stunts, they are focusing on the president's family instead of focusing on the american family. you've heard me say that over and over and over again and since you say we are not, well, you are saying, they are saying that we are not compromise, or cooperating, they have gotten 100,000 pages of documents, they have interviewed witnesses for 40 hours, and those documents and those witnesses, things that they asked for have actually refuted their false allegations over and over and over and over again. instead of doing the work of the american people, they are doing this, they are doing political stunts, and we have been very

clear about that. i'm going to go to the back, i'll come back, i'll come back. i haven't called you in a long time. >> no, you haven't. you just said the president was familiar with what his son was going to say today. was the president involved in drafting it, discussing it, offer advice? >> i don't have anything else to add. he was familiar. i don't have anything else to add. >> and you asked what the president, what his status was on defying congressional subpoenas. in 2021 he was asked that question specifically and said he believed the justice department should prosecute them. is that still his position? >> i don't have anything to add to what you just quoted me from the president. i don't have anything to add. anybody else? >> [question inaudible] the white house put out a fact

sheet showing engagement including the vice president but did not mention any announcement about the president's visit -- >> john: we're going to jump out of the briefing here. karine jean-pierre had several questions thrown at her about hunter biden and refused to give any information about it saying that she would refer people to the white house counsel's office or hunter biden's personal attorneys. she's not going to go there, sandra. >> sandra: seems that the reporters will keep drilling her on that. you and i have been watching the dow. it hit the high after the federal reserve -- >> john: look at that. >> sandra: down 425 points and top 37,000. >> john: oh, my gosh. previous close, 36,799. looks like if we can hang in, we'll be there. >> sandra: i'm sandra smith. >> john: i'm john roberts.