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hello i'm dana perino. my ear was blown out. i'm here with the team and this is "the five." the house set to vote any minute on making the impeachment inquiry into president biden official acis his son claims ma republicans are targeting him g anhid family, hunter biden show up on capitol hill this morningn defiantly ducking the close door deposition republicans sets up, instead ofno honoring a subpoeni the presidenlet lashed out at t g.o.p. lawmakers who want to question him. >> for six years i've been the target of the unrelenting trump attack machine shouting where ie hunter. well here is my answer. i am here but i'm also here to correct how the maga right has betrayed me for their politicale

purposes. republicans do not want an open process where americans can see r tactics. expose their baseless inquiry or hear what i have to say. what are they afraid of? i'm here. i'm ready. >> hunter biden choosing his words very carefully on if his father joe biden was involved in his business dealings. y father was not finally business not as a practicing lawyer not as a board member ofm burisma noy t in my partnership with a chinese businessman my investments at home or abroad ti anstd certainly not as an artis advertise. >> a shock for most people but not for president biden. >> the president was certainly familiar with what his son was going to say and i think what you saw was from the heart from

his son when it comes to the president the first lady they are proud of him continuing to red build his life. they're proud of their son. >>so so what next for hunter? republicannds comer and jordan t letting the subpoena subject slide they are suggesting fi contempt proceedings. jesse watters i'm sure you wereg watching but you know when he said my father was not financially involved did your y ears perouk up? i >>s that's a lie and even if ha wasn'tnc financially involved hs personally and politically because when you fly your son to 15 countries you're involvedy personally political involved meeting at the white house vice-presidents residents at the golf course at a hotel in los angeles, you're pretty involved, firing the prosecutor writing the ukranianuks a blank check or not popping the balloon

or shutting down the fbi task force or lifting trump tariffs on cheap solar panels and you'r writing letters of recommendation, everybody knows he is involved. hunter said he's ready. he was not ready. he was not going to testify he s today and he says he's here. hes he wasn't in congress. he was ihen the senate. he's going to have to get be arrested for contempt because bannon and navarro were both handcuffed. trump people sat for depositions for hours and they didn't pull theatrics like that. there's no way he's going to get away with this and he is rackin up another charge. this guy has some never. i love how we say that this guy is clean and joe biden is clean so where's the $1.6 million in

cash thar t hunter biden with dw over three years? no one curious about that?ts o is it sewn into wind breakers? you got missing cash and diamonds. no one is curious about where all in goes? you got hunter biden in 2018 according to the indictment, the indictment says lubld made $2.1 million in 2018 and goes there was no evidence of any business and he didn't conduct any business and there was no business travel so hunter biden is being intight for not paying taxes on his bribes. that's what's going on here. and why were people bribing hunter biden? because he wase he access to th biden n brand. >> what's his legal position your thoughts. >> first of all in a not so legal phraseology hunter biden

gave congress the middle finger today. hunter biden is bound by the lao just like steve bannon and just like everybody else who has been held in contempt. steve bannon from the time he refused to come in and honor the subpoena within a year was sentenced so this can move quickly and must. there has to be respect for law. you can't go out there and say my father loves me and i had a e problem and the maga people are aftemer me and no they're not. what the maga people and every n bhairnts is equal justice. they don't want to hear about in someone making millions of dollars in foreign countries and watching policy play out in this country where it is seems to benefit the other countries whether it's popping the balloon whether it's three days after there is a joe gets on a plane l

to ukrainean and threat wins a billion dollars of our money gei that prosecutor off my son's cpany. because that business burisma , was corrupt it was going down and the binded had to make sure it would pass muster on wall street. was all about.t when hunter biden says my father was not financially involved as a prosecutor every antenna goesr up so if your father was not financially involved first joe says he knows nothing of his son's business and next he's non involved in his business. i now he's not financially involved and then it begs the question and it begs impeachment inquiry.uiry how was he involved then? if wasn't financially tell me all th ae ways he was involved

with thewi emails and stolen la tap he admitted is his and thera is proof pictures photographs emails business partners and the crazy part of this he says i want to speak in front of the united states people. wait a minute. wasn't it the democrats jesse who had that impeachment inquire any the basement of the house wher whee nancy pelosi said two years we got to do it down here, we don't want anybody upstairs interfering. >> and destroying tapes. >> the last thing i want to sayi is this. stop with this drug addiction nonsense because a lot of towns are post-addiction. he still wasn't paying taxes. >> he said the maga republicans armie coming after me.

chris murphy a democrat from connecticuset said a lot of the charges seemed legitimate to un him. >> it wanings stunning for me tt hunter speak with pants on.ou it wast disorienting. you can see his mouth move minus a crack pipe or a straw it's ngl like watching lazarus do a back flip. he snubbed the close door deposition because he probably doesn't know the l in public.s i still would take him over his dad. th he'sis successful. he's an american success story. and the judge is right.

it's easy for us to focus on the hilarity and tragedy of his lifestyle but it's also easy for him to exploit addiction as a shield there. exp are millions of people with addictions whoic didn't do these things.op people with addictions who didn'ten deny their child or ble a gun on illegal aliens.who he just got a lot of breaks than a million junkies, so i'm glad he's making amends. you can't blame others for impugning your own character espepe in a one man show. who else?ak talk abouts, breaks. a first time artist gets an exhibit in soho selling snot for

hundredsr of thousands of dollo and we have no idea who is playing. he can play the victim carhed b no one else was filming him s naked.no itma wasn't maga republicans pointing firearms near terrifiea workers slyly implying if you don't what, he says the big gua might come around and maga republicans didn't write the r' emails about theri big guy so i think the only way that hunter is a victim is a victim of his dad running for president. i think he was doing all this stuf f under the assumption that dads was retiring and he was building a vast retirement fund for joe and joe is like you're oue t of your mind still is but hunter is like now the spotlight is on him. >>sica jessica you have the flo >> i'm like a lazy susan of

crazy. i look forward to most likely jesse who won't have jim jordan on your show. u you can ask him about the espn from the january 6 committee that he floutd for years now, nd respect for the rule of law, but i want jordan pushed on that. i want you to do it. >> so he can get arrested. >> so we are arresting jim of jordan t. >> we control doj. >> hunter made a lengthy statement aboudet why he wantedo testify in public and there are important details and i understand that he got subpoenaed a certain way for closed door testimony but it matterits when he gets clear examples the republicans have pu

completelybl distorted his reco his bank record his emails and i weth saw what he did with the t archersa testimony saying that e biden was behind this and you listen to other people like dan goldman and transcript was produced for archer said the opposite that joe biden wasn't personally profiting from there, victor show kin was not fired by joe biden. joe biden couldn't have got the entire international community to do it. it was a load of bunk. >> yes. it's not one person.f senate republicans. republicans are freaking out e the beginning of the impeachment inquiry going on since they took the majority

about a year ago has turned up absolutely nothing. >> really? >> yeah really. i say you should be leading or you should be leading because jim comer is not up to this. jim jordan on with barney talking about the impact drivink down biden's poll numbers. what's going to be the outcome of the impeachment inquiry?quir trump '24 baby. this morning maria has nancy on us. what you got? we are in the policy changes that came as a result of being paidff off. nancy says, i don't have anything. i love- being with you but you had the committee if you have all the answers. congressman john bacon probably not abou at biden committing hi crimesis and misdemeanors. chuck grassley i have no evidence the president is lose guilty. g.o.p. t aides don't want to lor

jobs. comer has lost control and ca botchen d things. >> so the rush billionaire gave him $3.5 million panorama and left the lady off the list. >> within a month the russian lady and meet with hunter biden >> the house is expected to vott soon whether to launch a biden impeachment inquiry. ou straight ahead harvard accuser on scandalous around this president. some of the best traditions start under a tree. it's where we gather as a family.

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♪ ♪ >> jes >> liberal universities don't know what a woman or a plagiarist is. harvard president getting involved in plagiarism scandal. new york says harvard investigated academic alleged dishonesty. harvard allegedly threatened the post for questioning. check out the meaty chunks of text on her dissertation.

she's fine. just a bunch of meaty chunks. >> here's a thought. if it's raise toys fire gay because she's black why is it not racist to keep her employed? the problem with e.i. and diversity hires they create a problem in the person hired. you narrow the field of applicants if you decide a whole group cannot be there. you're going to eliminate a very qualified people and the person you choose assumes they're set for life because if you're hiring someone to right a racial wrong firing them erases the so-called progress you just made. so they replace merit which a scourge of whiteness in dei. it's meritless because the

variables are only identity markers. you end up with kgb or kamala harris or the last marble movie. they're going to redefine plagiarism. i think it's different from the smash-and-grab of words. you can take up to a thousand words and get away with it because you can run out and take everything you want from the encyclopedia and run away and they got to stick because the whole house of race cards collapses. >> they call it not plagiarism but inappropriate citation. >> look the shoplifter behind the corner. you have to ask a staff member to unlock the cabinet. i think this reminds me of the

covid hypocrisy. we had the mayor of d.c. at a dance at a wedding when you weren't supposed to be and it's you have to comply with the plagiarism rules but i don't because i'm claudine gay. naacp says the attack on gay's administration is part of a white supremacist agenda but the only person fired so far is white. i think a lot of this is just making people realize harvard is going to have to dumb down its requirements. >> jessica so if you were the board chair of harvard and you just hired this woman, i believe this year and not only find out

she's a plagiarist but thinks screaming kill all jews is fine, what would you do? >> i would really struggle with that from a free speech level and people have gone back and looked at the covid thing when you're getting prepped by lawyers you probably push back and in the saying it's time to reevaluated the code because if we supplemented jew for any other protected group that would never stand on any of these campus else. the plagiarism issue is complicated and what the young journalists at the crimson did it's been the past few years you think about what went on at stanford they put down a professor, student journalism is such an important asset. >> he it was found to do no wrong but they had fired him.

>> they said in the crimson that it showed there were violations under harvard current standards of plagiarism. i know when i submitted my ph.d. there was software we put it through and that's a new thing you can do that and it was one of the scariest sets of weeks thinking i hired someone to check my ph.d. the last think you want is going before the committee and they say you lifted this. there is a certain amount of text that you can lift from other people where they say it's understandable. >> those are some meaty chunks. >> the issue is if right now gay would not be awarded her ph.d. something needs to be done but doesn't mean when she did get

her ph.d. or wrote those articles she violated harvard policy. >> i'm not sure about that. new policy old policy doesn't allow my chunks like that. >> there are multiple instances, what did they come up 20-something? okay, the woman lifts for a living. she's like joe biden with plagiarism. the amazing part of this what the left does is if they want to protect you what they do is just change the definition. they change the law. so plagiarism is not what you think it is. if you miss a comma or quote it's no problem. if the laws don't work for you or people in your tribe, we will just change it but when you dig deeper in this, you finds out that harvard cleared her of breaching the standards and plagiarism and turns out that the guy who was involved was the guy named swain and when the

"new york post" called harvard and were looking into the allegations of plagiarism by gay they threatened her with a pie powered law firm with defamation if the post printed anything about gay and sent like a 17 page letter but this guy swain was part of the biden harris transition team. for the left they can't have anyone take on the someone and make it look like it's a success by people on the right who believe in following the law. so this is to me a tribal thing. they don't care. they talk out of both sides of their mouth. this is a woman who said free speech is alive and well at harvard and two days later shuts down a conservative' meant. i mean they're not fair about it. >> if i was a harvard student i would like riles all year.

all year long. >> let's just plagiarize all the time. >> why would i do that? i have academic honor. up next shock comic daniel totsch thinks cancel culture is a good thing.

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because honesty is the best policy. i ate the apple pie you left cooling on the windowsill. that's my bad. who are you? ♪ ♪ >> jeanine: comedian daniel tosh is best known fo >> kmeedzian daniel totsch is known for offensive comedy. totsch making the case that sometimes backlash is deserved. >> i think people deserve it and obviously it's not a real thing

like your livelihood is gone but as someone who said horrible things constantly i've had backlash and i deserve it. there has to be consequences and i also don't think there's a problem with evolving and i used to be able to say this and now can't. i'm okay with that. >> okay greg. who is he? >> it says totsch show but she's viewing him so is it a show where somebody interviews this guy and asks what happens and he tells them? i think this is a, he's lying or stupid and as jim pointed out on my show there are reams of people on shows canceled, you can write books on this.

in fact some people have. i think this guy is trying to insert himself in a debate that no longered and tom made this point, he's trying to get back in the entertainment industry, the last remaining wokesters and thinks this is the way think. he says jimmy kimmel and howard stern moved past the black face stuff being liberal. all these amazing quote edgy comedians you have schultz and locals in rumble. tucker has got a new post-cancellation so that's the strategy. >> was he canceled?

>> his show was canceled for ratings not content. >> he personally was never canceled. >> this is the most research i've had to do in a long time. never when i heard the guy i thought there was misspelling on the sheet. i like comedy. i never heard of the guy and i think the roughest punishment for comedians is when your jokes fall flat. if you're not funny snl has been canned for days that's the best cancellation. >> speaking of cancellation she says he feels that she ports this is his favorite kind of cancellation getting rid of family members seeing how they vote on issues he has no problems canceling his family. >> i used to watch that show will. >> you did? >> not a lot. if i flipped and landed i would

say. he was all right. i don't think he understands what cancel culture means. cancel culture in twilight zone in espn analyst was doing a venus williams match and said venus was using gorilla tactics hit-and-run and he was fired. that's not gorilla. it's guerrilla. then he had a heart attack. i read the riley book, killing the witches. it was in frenzy driven by young people, young women were freaking out and labelling women and without due process the preacher or the sheriff would hang them and if you said you weren't a witch that meant you were and they would kill you and

behind the scenes a lot of it when they were accusing these women it was because they wanted to steal their land. if there was a widow or something like that. >> okay. do you want to follow up what jesse was talking about? >> did you read "killing witches "? >> no. >> dr. tarlov. >> i think jesse is right about this two stratosphere's of cancellation because the most prominent example of uncancellation that i think deserves to be reinstated and then some is alex jones, who said that sandy hook was a false flag, gave $1.6 million to families of victim, in a second

elon musk is in a spaiz room with him and whatever else was going on in that room with andrew tate so i think we talked about this during the me too era need to be precise about what they're doing and who deserves to be booted in polite society. you're not talking about alex jones and a commentator in can cell culture. >> so free speech absolutist. p. ♪ ♪ meet the jennifers. jen x. jen y. and jen z. each planning their future through the chase mobile app.

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>> greg: working in the kremlin with a >> working in the kremlin with a two head dog, failing a basic quiz on gender after stating biology facts. answering true on a statement that said all maine have penises and that it's true only women can get pregnant. seattle public schools defending the gender quiz as inclusive. saying the results should not impact the students' final grades. dana not only did this kid point out the emperor has no clothes but can't get pregnant. >> i love the school was like it was a quiz and didn't count. that's not the point. the mom got involved.

that is a level of involvement i can't understand. if i had a chemistry test my parents had no idea what was going on. parents are having to pay a lot more attention now. >> you know jessica, to defends it under the guise have inclusivity. we want to make everybody stupid in the cause of inclusivity. what's your thought? >> it makes me think you're mocking me. if i saw a question like that on a test i would know it a not a misplayed lesson. what they were going for is that gender is a social construct and sex is biology.

but i don't like this because if you're saying it means you're not serious about it. so if this is seriously what you want to be teaching and that is how the conversation goes about gender being a construct people who were born female but live as male that are pregnant and going to give birth it should count toward your grade. otherwise you shouldn't do it. >> it was definitely a stunt judge. >> wait a minute. born as female, but are male? >> a transman can be biologically female. >> i would be stupid in every class. did you get that yes any. >> no, i'm still trying to figure it out. man men cannot get pregnant >> transmen. >> what does that mean? >> it's a social construct. >> there's a babylon b article that says it's true.

>> it's all fantasy. it's illusion. it's their way of forcing our kids to think that something that is real to them is not real. you're taking the truth away from young children and it's not right and you know what, the reason this parent is involved dana thanks god is because of covid. if not for covid, you gotta go. >> fox news alert the house voting on making the impeachment into president biden official. are you on capitol hill for you? can you tell us what is going on? >> i'm just outside the house chamber a few systems away and watching this happen on cspan. we are watching this impeachment inquiry vote and inquiry into president biden and flag for our viewers this is not a vote for impeachment. it's a vote to launch an

official impeachment inquiry and the reason house republicans want to do that is because they feel like the white house and the president have not been forthcoming in their investigation and have not been turning over documents and records, telephone records and things of that nature so they feel they need this official inquiry to gain more substantial subpoena power. we are looking for a magic number and won't really know it until we have a total number of people that have voted but i will say that if all 434 members are voting then the magic number is 218. i believe we have two absences. speaker johnson dana believes he has the vote. he's been saying that a few days and feels like he's pretty confident this is going to pass and to be honest with you, if any house republican perhaps a

moderate perhaps one from and former biden district may have been double minded about voting for this tonight. perhaps their decision shifted after hunter biden coming to the capitol defying that subpoena and deciding he wouldn't take part in that private deposition and doing that news conference and driving away. so we are watch to go see how this all comes down. you can see see 193 yeas on the republican side and democrats voting nay. so wait to see how it turns out. >> you got us caught up there. so it does appear i think jesse that the republicans will have the votes, very small margin. you can only lose three. they're definitely going to lose

one. ken buck the congressman from colorado retiring said he won't for it but you get to 218 you get this formal inquiry then january shapes up to be a different month for president biden. >> it's not going to be a good january, except for january 6th their holiday. it's kind of like your july 4th. all this is investigation. the democrats should relax if joe did nothing wrong. stop stonewalling, provide evidence that nothing illegal -- no they haven't. hunter biden has been fighting this subpoena for a year. not even all of eric sherwin hasn't testified the accountant who said up the llc's. what kind p kind of business

dr. tarlov with no web site needs 20 shell companies? what legitimate business needs 20 shell companies and burner phones and encrypted apps? can you name one company? no! it's because this was a scam, jessica. it's a big fat scam. >> was it a big fat scam that changed u.s. policy? >> sure. i just named the fact they left a billionaire russian woman off the list and -- what's not true? >> they have the votes. we are at 219, 220. so they only lost the one. >> i just want to mention the fact that you said i could get greg pregnant. you said men could get pregnant. how could i get breg pregnant. >> you're going to have to get me drunk first. i'm not easy jesse. >> you said you're a doctor.

explain, jesse. >> can you confirm ken puck did the same? one thing that's going to happen in january the president will definitely do the democrats are going to use this opportunity to raise funds like crazy to pull everybody together. the democrats have been splintering off in different groups. now you have inquiries. it's formal. so the fundraising piece everybody likes to raise money but the democrats are going to use this a lot. >> i wonder how this is going to look for joe biden and the party. will joe biden be the candidate in the election in 2024? is this going to continue to cut at him and are the gavin newsom's and the rest of them going to come out because they smell blood in the water? because there's no question there is blood in this water. if you've got this evidence that

jesse and i have been talking about without the doj without the fbi by congress and you've got millions of dollars and your grandkids getting money and former fbi deer louis freeh i think this is worst than joe can imagine. >> this is inquiry not actual impeachment. >> inquiry impeachment palooza i'm here for it. remember the democrats invend lawfare trying to put the leading candidate in jail. let's keep counting the same one over and over again.

it's still zero dr. tarlov. you know what, i love this because the democrats tied up the government during the rise of covid with impeachment proceedings. turn about is fair play and i'm here for it. maybe if this would be a battle not for the white house but who is in the big house first, because joe broke more laws. think about the classified documents. why are they going after trump and not joe? that's the obvious hypocrisy. >> joe wasn't entitled to take the documents anywhere. >> we have a real treat. peter ducey is at the white house not the big house. right peter? tell us what the white house is thinking as this happens on capitol hill, all republicans voting for impeachment inquiry of joe biden. >> well, we are hearing at the biden white house they think congress has better things to do

than scrutinize hunter biden so while they dismiss the premise of this they've been staffing up a war room across the west executive driveway in the executive office building and they have got lawyers in there con and pro and they're going to push back hard as they can as congress gains this tool to get the information they say they were not getting from the biden white house. jean-pierre will dispute saying we have been forthcoming. there are certain things they've not wanted to come forth with because in vote hadn't happened so they're going to lose an excuse not to comply because something is unconstitutional without a vote. a vote happened. it's constitutional now. joe biden isn't getting

impeached. nobody is acting like that's a possibility, but they are now going to have to do a lot more driving up and down with boxes of documents up and down pennsylvania avenue between here and the rayburn staff room or one of these conference rooms on the hill dana. >> peter ducey thank you so much i'm sure there will be activity there. sam is smart and the war room is going to be hopping. jessica. >> just to continue what the judge was saying, no one wants this. this whole idea that i can end up helping you out, i think that any person, including donald trump in that bucket i would rather have

no, they didn't. yeah, they did. there they tried to impeach trump even when they knew that. >> no, but at the time that the first go around, i mean, he's still president, but i'm just saying he's. >> they knew it was going nowhere, is what i'm saying. and they still did. right. that's my point. right. but they could not the added advantage that they could actually make it now. yeah. right. exactly the same term. but it was that if it's point this is pointless except symbolically you guys deserve it. >> but i don't. we don't fear it the way that you think that we do. i i'm just about we're not doing. taylor swift we had a whole segment around. no taylor swift. and but so do you think joe biden thinks taylor swift is overrated? absolutely. absolutely. >> he thinks taylor swift is a really fast person, that men's clothes. okay. that's a good one. that's good as well. all right, jesse, how are

you going to cover this tonight ? >> well, so far, the white house has been able to control the special counsel's. >> they've been able to control the u.s. attorney's ability to control the people here in manhattan, the people in georgia. >> this is not in their control. >> so if they do go from an inquiry to an actual impeachment, what you're going to have is you're going to have live testimony in the chamber. it's going to be covered by this network, other networks, c-span is going to be all over. you can't run away. you can't say there's no evidence, you can't hide from it. >> you're going to have witness testimony. you have whistleblower testimony. >> you can have documentary evidence. they're going to maybe not have the hollywood producer like the january 6th, but there is going to be big exhibits that's going to show where the money went and you're going to see testimony from everybody going to have degrees that you're going to see. the accountant have to testify under oath. you're going to have to see tony zelenskyy, devon archer, you're going to have to see all of these people get up there and swear under oath that they're telling the truth.

frank biden, the brother, jimmy biden, the brother. >> this is not going to be as simple as you think, to ignore, jessica. this is going to be incredibly painful. they're going to scrutinize every little crevice in the biden family. >> and i don't know if they're going to be able to swim out of trump's family like they were that gambino is. >> so let's not pretend this is oh, don't go after the biden family. >> what's going to happen here is they're going to give you a timeline and they're going to have parallel timelines as to what joe biden was doing, what hunter biden was doing and what was going on in the world. >> you've got this devon archer and taylor. >> when and i think it's eric. sure. when he was meeting in the white house with joe biden, he's got emails. >> joe biden is using pseudonyms regarding policy. hunter biden is getting information about uniteded states policy from joe biden's office and then you're going to see that the prosecutors and the congresspeople tying

that together with policy in the collection of money. >> why is joe biden the point man on energy in the ukraine when he's v.p. and everybody knew hunter was involved? >> this is going to be ugly and it's going to be it's going to prove that they were dirty, that what they were doing is collecting money with the united states being for sale. >> and you can say all you want, what you want about donald trump, but there's nothing worse than collecting money from foreign oligarchs because you're vice president and turning u.s. policy based upon your collection of money. >> and that's what the bidens are all about. what about if you are withholding aid to a democratic ally until they go and dig up dirt on your political opponent, which is what donald trump was that aid went through? >> and, you know why? >> like donald trump saying, chop chop, let's see. basically, i think what we've seen this is a preview of the debate that's to come. right. so, i mean, we know what this is. i just want to read to you from

the house speaker. he put out a statement today saying that the house took a critical step in our investigation into serious matters involving president joe biden by formally opening an impeachment inquiry. but the line that really stuck out to me is that we take we do not take this responsibility lightly and will not prejudge the investigation's outcome, but the evidentiary record is impossible to ignore. so that's what we've all been talking about here. >> and we'll see how this gets under way. yes, sir. i would just like to point out that taylor swift was named time's person of the year, joining past winners hitler and stalin. >> i just want to point thth to everybody at home. >> and that was her birthday. it is. apparently she's 47. she's 30, she's 37, 34, had a lot of work in the party. >> i turned it down. i plans you know, we dated back in the 90s. >> no songs about yes guys. >> all right. that's it for us. everyone picks welcome to jesse watters primetim