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building as ceasefire talks may be resuming. 's israeli officials said to be meeting in norway today to discuss another a pause in the war with the release of more hostages a day after israel admitted it mistakenly killed 3 israeli hostages several days after learning israelis are not taking too kindly to the strong arming they're getting from the white house. prime minister benjamin netanyahu's spokesperson is here. then, from the legal battles that could drag presidential hopefuls down to stocks and the economy that have the white house saying things are looking up. voters considering both as key endorsements are coming in fast and furious. we've got new hampshire governor chris sununu on why he's all in on nikki haley and teamster union boss sean o'brien on why he is open to backing a republican. he's here. and if to arizona where a democratic governor is sending the national guard to the border. and to the east coast where a pre-christmas storm -- and it could be a doozy -- is set to

dampen if early travelers' plans and reverberate through the week with. bundle up, settle in. "cavuto live" is now. ♪ ♪ neil: welcome, everybody, i'm neil cavuto. the latest in israel right now as we're getting separate reports of, you know, the shooting down of some drones that are coming from houthi rebels. stop me if you've heard that before. more of that in a second. greg palkot in southern israel with what's happening there. greg. >> reporter: hey, neil. we are on the edge of a very noisy gaza strip and that deadly incident if involving hostage as and israeli forces happened about 6 miles from where we are right now. the 3 involved were a 28-year-old, a 25-year-old and a 26-year-old mistakenly identified by troops on the ground as a the enemy and killed. finish it happened in a neighborhood of gaza city, not

clear if they fed hamas captivity or were left behind, but israel now says they merged from a building shirtless, one waving a makeshift white flag yelling for help in hebrew. three hostages sos smalled on -- scrawled on another building. after shooting them, the troops brought the bodies back to israel for identification. this spurred on new protest by the families and supporters of some 130 hostage remaining in gaza. they're calling this a terrible disaster saying time is running out, calling on the government to bring the hostage as back home. and maybe spurring on, yes, those new hostage release talks. israel's mossad intelligence chief meeting with the qatari prime minister, a key hamas go-between, in norway. discussions described as a exploratory. as trouble in the region does intensify, iran-backed, yemenen-based hamas-supporting houthi rebels keep firing rockets and drones at shipping in the red sea, reportedly more

today. one huge company says it is avoiding the red sea out of safety. and, neil, back to that hostage incident, the israeli military says its troops did not follow the proper rules of engagement. they offered deep condolences if and said that lessons would be learned. very hard education. back to you. neil: so sad. thank you very much for that, greg palkot. be safe9. in the meantime, lucas tomlinson at the white house maybe spurred by the news on these tragic hostage deaths, you're getting a lot of strong arm aing from the white house over how israel conducts that war, and it's led to some tensions. lucas, what's the latest? >> reporter: that's right, neil. yesterday on on your show yesterday afternoon you had the formerrer israeli ambassador to the united states and author of a great book on the 6-day war say what a he thinks is going on right now inside the white house. >> -- is speaking in two voices. it's sort of a good cop and bad cop scenario. you had john kirby before from

the national security council, matt miller from the state department being unequivocal in their support for israel and expressing understanding of the great tactical military difficulties we have fighting a terrorist group. >> reporter: then you had this leak apparently from the vice president's office and apparently playing the role of bad cop speaking to politico saying, quote, kamala harris has been telling colleagues in the administration that she wants the white house to show more concern publicly for the humanitarian damage in gaza. president joe biden is among the officials harris has urged to show more sensitivity to palestinian civilians, these people said. and here's martial security advisor -- national security adviser jake sullivan speaking late this week in israel. >> there will be a transition to another phase of this war, one that is focused in more precise ways on targeting the leadership and and on intelligence-driven operations that continues to deal with the ongoing threat

that hamas poses. >> reporter: and president bideninging speaking at nih on thursday. >> reporter: do you want israel to scale back its assault on gaza but the -- by the end of the year? do you want them to tone it down, move to a lower benzty phase? >> i want them to be focused on how to save civilian lives, not stop going after hamas, but more careful. >> reporter: john kirby says this war would end in hamas released all the hostages. neil? neil: you know, lucas, the leaking of this divide can, they don't call it a divide, but between the vice president and the president on israel and how we react to that, who was behind it? >> reporter: it's not clear who was behind it, neil, but it's certainly apparent that in some quarters of this administration, we saw the letter from the interns, protests outside the white house from, apparently from white house staff, there's a growing movement inside the administration that more pressure needs to be put on

israelif also -- israel and also from some quarters they want the president to speak more about the civilians in gaza who are being killed and not just about the israeli hostages, neil if. neil: got it. lucas tomlinson at the white house. the israeli point of view on this, tom -- prime minister netanyahu's spokesperson. very good to have you. what do you make of this pressure that's coming more often and certainly more loudly9 from the white house and now this apparent slight divide certainly among those inspect white house, some who back israel nonstop and others who say maybe we should ten back ant they're doing to civilians? >> thank you, neil, i've spoken to be you many times from new york in the last weeks, and now i'm here in israel. it's a very difficult time for our country, very heavily-charged atmosphere here, i can tell you. as for your question, there is,

again, no daylight between washington and jerusalem in what pertains to the goals of this war. we all a believe hamas must be eliminated. 's reillys can no longer live next to a terrorist enslave, and we don't the want to -- enclave, and we don't want to see a resurgence of terrorism. we want to see all hostages back in race reel -- israel, and we all want to see the my mall suffering and casualties in gaza as we operate. now, i can tell you as the idf moves south or to the next stage of this war with operating in the area, we see the population there evacuating to these safe zones that the idf has designated, we've seen a decrease in the number of civilian casualties. this is the trend that we want to see. every civilian casualty is, obviously, a huge loss. it's a tragedy. it should not have happened. but every civilian casualty, israeli and palestinian, is on that hamas.

just put it in perspective for a moment. if hamas had not perpetrated the october 7th massacre, had now they not stopped are releasing hostages as per the outline that was agreed upon, many of these people, all of these people would have still been alive today. neil: there's no doubt about that. but there is a pile-on or what appears to be a pile-on. i was just sort of counting them this morning when i was getting ready for the show, who's been behind it. jake sullivan, the national security adviser, said that israel has to lower the intensity in gaza. it's as simple as that. anthony blinken, the former -- not the foreman, but in his visit to israel a couple of weeks ago talked about a making sure that israel is not overresponding, overreacting from the president himself divide about protecting average citizens and that they don't come into harm's way. has any of this built to the point on top of now kamala

harris saying that we've got to be looking after the fate of palestinians as if to say that we've been paying too much attention to the fate of israelis, is that weighing on the government? and is that lecturing about how to proceed affecting how the government operates now? >> well, the way you're framing this, it's a question of proportionality. and proportionallingty during war, you know, according to international law and according to, you know, the awareness, according to logic, it's doing whatever it takes to achieve a he e visit mate -- legitimate military goal. and the goal that we have defined after the october 7th massacre is more than legitimate. this is the most just war that the one could imagine as other wars throughout history that also had civilian casualties. but there is no stopwatch here really, neil. we will complete this mission because at the end of the day hamas must be gone. we don't want a band-aid

solution here. neil: no, i -- >> then you and i will just have this conversation again. neil: yeah. i apologize for jumping on you there. i'm just curious, if they ever came to the united states saying you keep doing this, you keep, you know, ignoring what we're hinting at and felling you to de might, we might pull aid or not offer as much aid. it hasn't come to that, i understand that, i'm not making a mountain out of a molehill, but what would israel's response be to something like that? >> i think you heard national security adviser jake sullivan when he was here and fox news also played some of the sound bites, he also gave interviews to israeli media outlets, by the way, to deliver this message to the israeli public directly, and you really see that there's no daylight, as a i stated, between jerusalem and washington here. we all want the same. we want israelis to be secure, we want palestinian civilians te extent possible because hamas has dragged us into this war.

as you know. nobody but hamas wanted this war. nobody but hamas. and that's why we're operating in gaza right now. neil but there is daylight, right? if. >> so the american -- neil: there's obviously daylight here. obviously, you're the ones fighting the good fight, and i'm just wondering on any level does this lecturing -- and, by the way, not just from the united states. you've heard it from the if u.n., that's to be expected and has been virtually nonstop, but now from a lot of normal friends who are telling you, israel, cool it. that's daylight there. >> well, you see, you say the phrase normal friends, but the united states, you are do our friends. neil: and we're leading, and we're leading those discussions. we're the ones saying it. we're the ones lecturinginginging, right? >> we take advice from friends, more so from do our friends, of course. and i think that the american people, they really know that israel is fighting the pure evil called hamas right here, and

they know how to tell right from wrong and good from evil. and you know what, neil? if 40,000 americans would have been murdered by blood third the city terrorists on the same day, that's the equivalent of what happened here, i would not want to live in a world that tried to tie america's hands. i would have been terrified to live in such a world. so you also brought up the united nations. there's a built-in anti-israel bloc at the united nations. obviously, it's something that israelis have been used to, and we have zero expectations, so to say, from this international body. sitting at the u.n. headquarters in new york calling for a ceasefire, that's the easy thing to do. we don't want easy solutions because what would a ceasefire mean? it means leaving hamas in power, leaving the hostages in gaza and leaving the ones responsible for the october 7th maas a kerr with the capability and will to do it again and again and again, as they say. neil: tal, be safe.

very good having you again. tal heinrich, spokesperson for benjamin netanyahu. we're getting more details on this effort to shoot down drones that were coming ships' way in the red sea. the ussny in the red sea apparently -- carney shot down attack drones early this morning. the drones were launched from houthi-controlled areas of yemen. no injuries or damage to the ship was reported. no ships in the area reported damaged. i should also elaborate on ships in the area, we might start seeing fewer of them. the world's leading container ship company has already suspended operations in that neck of the woods, another big container company has done the same, all avoiding the area out of an abundance of caution. stay with us. that keep on giving. so don't miss our 25 days of deals... where you can discover these last-minute offers. buy now, pay later with lowe's pay.

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so this gunfight was essentially a gang war trying to fight for control over this gap in the fence. my source says this gap is a spot in the border wall that was just never completed. neil? neil: all right, hillarying thank you for that. a little later, in the next hour, we're going to be talking to arizona national guard captain about what they're doing and what a to make of those ie dereks, coming up later. in the meantime, keeping you posted on that huge pay that's been forced op rudy giuliani right now. he doesn't have the dough, and he doesn't have a lot of friends to help him get the dough to pay out for, well, defaming two key election workers in georgia. the fallout from that after this. ster. you remember rick, her neighbor? sure, he's the 76-year-old guy who still runs marathons, right? sadly, not anymore. wow. so sudden. um, we're not about to have

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neil: all right, it is highly doubtful that rudy giuliani has $148 million hanging on him anytime soon, but that's what he has to pay out to two georgia election workers for defaming him over that whole mess, the georgia recount and all of that. alexandria hoff has a lot more on where goes are from here. >> reporter: well, hi, neil. even to the assistant district attorney in this case, the dollar amount is astounding, 7-10 times more than what the plaintiffs had asked for, but $148 million, that is what the d.c.-based jury ordered yesterday believing that is what two georgia election workers deserve after they argued that their lives were destroyed by defamatory statements made by giuliani following the 2020 election. >> money will never solve all of my problems. i can never move if back into the house that i called home. i will always have to be careful about where i go and who i choose to share my name with.

>> reporter: giuliani, the former new york city mayor turned trump lawyer are, maintained during after this week-long federal civil trial that he had nothing to do with threats made to the women. giuliani says he will appeal the verdict and possibly seek a new trial. >> i've not been allowed to offer one single piece of evidence in defense. of which i have a lot. >> reporter: so, yeah, or neil, it's the unclear if giuliani is going to be able to pay the $148 million. he's already been struggling with legal fees, and it's been a busy week for the biden family, house republicans formalized their impeachment into the president to allow for more investigationive power into allegations that biden committed bribery, conduct and obstruction offenses. on thursday, hunter biden ignored a subpoena that would have brought him in for a closed-door deposition. for that, republicans say they are now initiating proceedings

to hold him in contempt of congress, neil. neil: a.m. sand drink ya, thank you for that. so where does this go particularly now with rudy giuliani and that $14 million? let's go to -- 148 million in let's go to andy mccarthy. first on rudy giuliani, how does something like this work? obviously, the judge knows, probably court knows he doesn't have that $148 million. that's just the fact. but where does this go? if can he lower that? can he, you know, get this appealed? what? >> it probably goes on two tracks, neil. one is the official, formal legal track which means it'll go up on appeal. i don't think the $148 million is going the hold up. it'll be dramatically reduced. and i think, you know, the lawyers for the other side may know that, so the other track that's going on, i would think, would be settlement discussions because it's expensive to litigate. and it'll be finish even though

a big win for these people who brought the suit against rudy yesterday with, you know, collecting his, as you point out, quite another thing. neil: you know, we got all these very interesting legal issues going on and for donald trump in general this is a move afoot right now to push back the whole january 6th issue while higher courts all the way up maybe to the supreme court decide, you know, whether there's grounds but where do you think that stands? >> well, here's the thing, neil, it's kind of a moving target because now other cases are involved. so this week the supreme court said that it would hear the cases of a number of the capitol riot defendants who were prosecuted on the same obstruction statute that is the heart of jack smith's case against trump. and the thing is the supreme court is not going to rule on that provision until june.

so if you are the lower court, it would be foolish to go ahead with a march 4th trial when the supreme court may decide the validity of the main if charges in the case three months later. i don't see how she can go forward with trial on march 4th. neil: all right. if i could switch to hunter biden, i told you we would be ping-ponging, my friend, so your patience is appreciated. he did not appear before this committee to talk about, you know, his business life, taxes, all this other stuff they want to take up as they pursue now an impeachment inquiry. now that that impeachment inquiry has been approved by the house -- again, along party lines, but it is what it is -- is there more pressure for him not to do that again? if he is subpoenaed again, he better speak or he's in a world of hurt? >> the thing is, he's trying to create a public perspective that he doesn't want to testify because the republicans are bad and if they get behind closed

doors, they'll manipulate the story, and they'll select ily leak it, etc. the truth of the matter is he's not going to testify because he's facing two indictments, and no good lawyer would let their client testify under those circumstance es. but he doesn't want to say publicly i can't testify because they can use the things i say against me in a criminal trial which is the last thing he wants to be saying publicly. so what i would do if i were the house is invite him to come back. they can proceed with trying to held him many contempt, but i think it would be wiser for them now that they have the inquiry nailed down, invite him to come back and, let's face it, the biden justice department is not going to prosecute hunter for contempt. so, you know, he knows he's not going to testify, and he's not going to be prosecuted for criminal contempt. he's got plenty of other problems to worry about anyhow. neil: but, of course, democrats have to be very careful about how it looks because they were very, very eager to punish those

in the trump circle who didn't testify before a committee or were refusing to, or you know, with subpoenas and the like. so there's got to be some consistency there. i don't know how much that matters, but what do you think? >> well, i think the thing is here's what they're banking on, neil, they were in a hot panic to get out of town, right? neil: right. >> they're going to leave for four weeks. by the time they come back, we'll be talking about iowa, new hampshire, trump's impending trial and whether it's going to happen, and i think they there's only so much bandwidth for people's attention, and this'll blow over a bit. we'll see. but, you know, i think they're thinking we'll be in a difference media environment by the time they get back to washington. neil: that's a very good point. it'll be a different world four weeks from now, you're quite right. let me finally get your take on this operational delay or whatever you want to call it regarding the trump reaction and his legal team to all these various suits and legal matters. and this is a difference between

pushing them back until after the election or pushing them back to what would be the next president's inauguration. if it gets pushed back until after the election and donald trump or is elected again to be president of the united states, is that the point at which you can say, all right, no matter what he will do whether he pardons himself once inaugust rated -- inrawing august a rate ad, the statute of limitations is such that it would be pushed automatically back until after that administration is done? in other words, a lot of these cases just disappear. >> well, what stops the clock, neil, on chute of limitations -- statute of limitations is the filing of charges. so right now the statute of limitations lapsing is not an issue. here's how it would become an issue. i think trump will not pardon himself if he wins election, but what he would do is direct his justice department to drop the case. and that could vitiate the indictment, and then the statute of limitations would be a big

deal, and the case would disappear. but, of course, he'd have to win for that to happen. neil: ooh i've got a spread sheet with all of these cases -- [laughter] and it's easier for me to keep track of the stock market than that spread sheet. great job, my fre.d i appreciate if it. have a merry christmas. >> thank9, you too, neil. neil: i was mentioning the stock market. in case you haven't looked, it's been on fire. seventh straight week in a row for all the major markets, all up on the notion that we've got this sweet spot in the economy where interest rates respect going to go up, in fact, they might go down next year, and things are looking up. the white house says that's the wind at their back and that could be the surprise in next year's election. they win because the economy is on. we debate, you decide.

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neil: you know, we're having an incredible week for the market. some people call it the santa claus rally, but the fact of the matter is, seven straight weeks we've seen gains in the market averages, the dow three days in a row setting record, piling on more than 1,000 points this week. the nasdaq has advanced more than 40% year to date, so the trend is the friend. we're going to rook at the political impact in a second, but first to my buddy kenny polcari of slatestone wealth management. what's going on here, kenny? >> so, listen, neil, first of all, the santa claus rally is really defined for that week in

between christmas and the 5th of january, right? so that week and a half is really what's defined as the santa claus rally. what's happened now over the past six weeks is something, nothing short of amazing. certainly, it feels like a santa claus a rally. anyone in the market has been enjoying i it. but, look, they are pricing everything. investors and the markets are pricing everything to perfection. so next year's 2024 earnings outlook growing double digits at 12%, no recession, lower rate, the perfect if economy. it's as if everything is priced to perfection, and that is a little bit of the risk. now, look, i love it. i'm invested, i'm enjoying this ride, but i'm also cautious enough to realize that, you know, some of those things are not going to come true and so the market will adjust. besides the fact we've gone straight up for seven weeks. the charts go straight up. there hasn't been an inch of a pullback. so some consolidation should happen. maybe we're going to see it this

week, maybe they'll push it until the end of the year. but one way or the other, don't necessarily think trees continue to grow to the sky because you and i both know that is not what happens. neil: let's talk about what got this going. the federal reserve seemed to indicate not only are the rate hikes done, cuts are coming. maybe as many as three cuts next year. the markets though, i look at some of these futures contracts, they're looking at double the number of cuts. >> right. neil: but the nip side of that, kenmy -- flip side of that and what people, particularly those in debt are wanting to get something that will put them in debt like, you know, rates to come down, normally that happens it's a sign of a e slowing economy,. so are we reacting properly here? >> well, that's -- so you have to be careful what you wish for, right? it was only six weeks ago when jay powell told us we're not discussing rate cuts, we may be at a peak, we may raise them, but we're not discussing cuts.

and then on wednesday he comes out and says, yeah, we started discussing cuts which is exactly what the market wanted to hear. now, i think you're right, why is he suddenly discussing cuts? do they see some difficulties on the horizon? i think they do. i don't think it's going to be a crash or anything dramatic, but i do think that they see an economy slowing. i think they're going to end up seeing unemployment spike higher than their estimate of 4.1%, and so i think they're trying to prepare. but to your point, the market is demanding more which is why it keeps pushing higher because i think they think the fed is going to cave and cut more than two or three times, right? so i think that's what investors just need to be cautious about. one way or the other, you're right. be careful when they cut rates because, look, unemployment still hat historic lows at 3.7%. the economy is supposedly humming along very robust, so that does not argue for the fed to stimulate the economy by cutting rates at this moment, at least not in my mind and a lot of other minds. but one way or the other, it

looks as if that's what they're going to do starting in whether it's may -- i don't think it's going to be in march. and, by the way, the new york fed chair came out friday and said is, oh, by the way, it's not really what he meant because he thought the market was getting carried away. we're pointing to have multiple rate cuts in to e -- 2024 and they're trying to walk that back. neil: yeah. you're talking about the new york fed president and, by the way, the atlanta fed president was saying much the same thing, don't think these cuts are that imminent. you're right, there's a lot of confusion but well explained. kenny, i always enjoy having you. merry christmas, my friend. >> merry christmas to you. neil: all right. the backdrop for this politically could be good news for joe biden because the white house has been arguing that the economy's actually good but, of course, in every poll you see americans diametrically find that upside down, it is not the case. so what's the fallout from this? bob cusack, "the hill" ed editor in chief. bob, it's interesting too because another part of this news is that interest rates go

down, so do mortgage rates. they're back under 7%. that could reignite housing, that could help the president or so they hope. none of this has, as of yet, but what do you see happening? >> well, i mean, i think if donald trump is the nominee and it's looking that way, neil, he's going to have an economic advantage. there's no doubt about that. but the white house and the president need to neutralize that and, obviously, they have other issues they can talk about, abortion certainly helped president biden in the midterm elections. but overall, there is an ton here -- an opportunity here that the economy maybe over the next six months starts to rally. but as you mentioned, people don't feel it. and inflation wasn't a concern under trump. so there's a bit of a covid inflation hangover going on, and and that's not great for the president. neil: you know, you and i have talked about this before, or bob, about, you know, the economy can be looking like it's turning around, but there's a delayed impact there. of course, george bush sr.

remembers that famously because there was technically one going on. in '92 people weren't feeling it, if and his hiney was toss thed out and bill clinton came in. here you have a little bit more playing room. you're 11 months away. maybe that does give you more time to gain traction. but a lot of the economic news we have seen including the consistently pretty good jobs figures aren't registering, i don't know what another # 11 months is going stood. >> yeah, or neil, it's an interesting point because i've been thinking about, actually, bush sr. and that campaign because, as you mentioned, his message was things are getting better. neil: right. >> joe biden has said that and also we're doing better than the rest of the world. that's what bush also said. bush lost his reelection bid. you know, listen, i think the white house should embrace the underdog role. they are in the underdog position. biden is basically saying i'm going to beat trump. that's to not great for turnout. we've got a long way to go. but barack obama embraced the underdog label a year before he

won re-election. and i i think biden would be wise to do the same. neil: you know, i think the white house has a campaign ad out in which it's talking about the market and everything else and the president's sort of zinging donald trump when trump famously said that biden would lead to a crashing market. i'm paraphrasing here. enough to say that isn't happening. but i notice democrats tend to be a little more leery about focusing on the markets. donald trump, of course, made it a point and kept pounding at it. ronald reagan did the same. bill clinton, to be fair, did the same and talked it up in ads as a well that everyone was getting richer in this country, doing better with that bull market and the internet boom and what have you. how does that play out? how does the stock market play out as a factor in an election? >> yeah. a lot of politicians, you to mentioned democrats, also mitch mcconnell doesn't like to talk about stock markets because they go up and down, as you know. but i agree, i think the white house has to pick up its game in talking up the economy.

i don't think obama was great at that. bill clinton was. certainly, donald trump was. but as things start to turn around, as inflation goes down a bit, gas prices going down, you know, the president needs to hammer that message home. the problem though is that he's not the best public messenger and neither the vice president. -- is the vice president. neil: yeah. it's all about how you deliver that, right? bob, always good seeing you, my friend. >> thanks, neil. neil: all right, very nasty weather starting in florida but moving it way up the east coast, and it could be a doozy. you might be looking at this region and saying thank goodness i don't live there. well, if you are flying anywhere in the country this week, that is going to impact you. i'll explain after this. ♪ 25 days of deals... where you can discover these last-minute offers. buy now, pay later with lowe's pay.

neil: all right, want to take you right now to thety of brotherly love, philadelphia, they've got the christmas tents where people shop and get some

goods, maybe some cheesesteaks in there. they make a wonderful gift. that's for a separate segment if maybe a separate if show. my staff is telling me it's not happening on this show. having said that, better to that while you still can because there's a storm that's brewing in florida that's going to rip up through the east coast and maybe right through philly itself, and it's going to be a doozy. what's the impact going to be on travel? adam klotz has the latest. what are we looking at here, adam? ad avid not your typical type of storm system. a lot of spots are into the 40s and 50-degree range already this morning, temperatures are going to continue to climb. what are we looking at? well, this is that system you were just mentioning down across portions of florida, it's going to be track up the east coast. ultimately, a whole lot of rain, flooding likely across the state of florida on saturday, lingering into sunday. and then that entire system starts to make that move. pay attention to the time stamp up in the corner, this is sunday

evening. and you're going to watch all of this moisture and energy run all the way up the east coast into monday morning, ultimately, all the way into tuesday. you do see a little bit of snow on the back side of this system, but really it's a rainmaker. real downpours for some of these areas. everything in the yellow, expect a couple own. -- can inches of rain, maybe 4-5 inches in some isolated areas. on top of that, breezy conditions. so this is a real kind of raw, nasty storm system that's going to bring a lot of flooding, pretty strong winds as it makes that movement obviously, when you're talking about a system like this, there's at least an opportunity for some drays. this is taking -- some delays. this is taking you back here on saturday and as we march through the next couple of days, these indicators show you where you're going to see the best chance for flight delays. obviously, folks leaving in the next couple of days perhaps for a long christmas break. really on monday is when this is impacting most of the midwest, up into new england. by tuesday the system has

cleared up, but it's going to be a big one and will vern city -- certainly slow some folks down. neil: thank you very much, my friend. adam klotz following all of that. we'll keep following the weather, what's going on, but in a a nasty environment we can tell you when it comes to electric vehicles, in case you've been following the pile on and all the difficult i thinks the industry's having and all the pushback on getting evs sold, a lot of automakers are saying you know what? if these deadlines are a little too intense, and we don't see nearly as much interest. what that could mean after this.

neil: all right, they were all the rage a little more than last year at this time. i'm talking about evs, electric vehicles. and lo and behold, all of these

states that were pushing up the deadlines to get rid of fossil fuel-powered cars, something happened because now we're in a position where gm is laying off workers at an electric truck plant, others pushing back production including gm, the parent company itself, ford. we're seeing this happening more and more often these days. the automotive expert, mike can help put this in context. what's happening? evs were all the range and everything go, go, go. >> yeah. you have a couple different things at play here, neil. first and foremost, two words, market demand, right? when you bring something new to market, it takings time for consumers to truly understand and adopt a new piece of technology, and although they've been around for a long time, with the biden administration coming into office, they really are pushing hard on this, right? all kinds of sub sheties and money going to the automakers to help build this platform. but here's the bigger problem with the situation right now is the early adopters that love

electric vehicles a la tesla, they bought their vehicles. and now there are more than 30 electric vehicles in the market right now that consumers have to choose from. it brings market demand way down because there's more white house. what you have now is consumers are not sure what to do. now, the automakers, this is the bigger story, you have some like general motors, they're all in. you have some automakers that are half away in like ford motor company. they're still building their electric vehicles and still building gas vehicles. then you have companies like toyota that are looking in from the outside saying, all right, here's one electric vehicle, but what do we do next? sales in the auto industry for november up 8.8%, we're going to close the year out 10% over last year. electric vehicle sales up more than 90% year other year, but they're only selling -- neil: smaller number. >> correct. neil: so it looks dramatic. >> yeah. neil: but is this issue confusion over these new vehicles that are out, the different charging standards? what is it? >> yeah. so i've test driven just about every electric vehicle on the

market, and i will tell you they're fun, they're fast -- neil: and they're beautiful cars. >> just like our smartphones, infrastructure is horrible. we put the cart before the horse, right? we said, hey, here's an electric vehicle, but if you want to charge it, well, you have to go to this specific location. we were just talking before i came on, i live in nashville. we had a tornado last week. what do you do in the event of having no electricity for your vehicle? consumers are saying, hey, we're interested in learning about them, but we're not 100% ready to buy them yet. neil: you know, people are ready to buy these hybrids that offer both. toyota, that's been a big push. >> obvious. neil: and thatsomes -- seems to me to be a common sense solution. >> the chairman of toyota game out probably -- came out probably about five months ago and said for every 1 electric vehicle i build, i can build 50 hybrids. it's a perfect gateway for consumers, right? you get to try out

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