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>> harris: this is going to be good, "outnumbered," harris faulkner with kennedy, tammy bruce, host of tomi lahren fearless on outkick, tomi lahren and co-anchor of "america's newsroom," bill hemmer. >> bill: good to be here. >> harris: a sex scandal is rocking washington, d.c. a staffer working in office of ben cardon has been let go after allegedly filming a graphic sex tape in the congressional hearing room. allegedly filmed in historic senate judiciary room. that is why the 9/11 commission had its hearings and other high-profile hearings. identity of the two people involved have not been

confirmed, however, jonathan turley is warning they could face criminal charges. the question is unooshl use would constitute trespass. is this in public in a locked committee room capitol police could argue. bill hemmer. >> bill: lost the job, right? >> yep. >> bill: out of a job, rightfully so. >> harris: and there is video. >> bill: age 24, how ignorant do you have to be and they were sharing online with a small group in washington, d.c. didn't think it was going to get out? just stupidity and everybody tells us the younger kids know how to use devices.

duh. i wonder if you went back in history, all psychology aside details not withstanding. there is psychology why you would do this. it is all on camera and i wonder how many other risks this young man and/or others did in a similar fashion. >> harris: ben cardon has been around a long time, senator just turned 80 years old. what does this tell you about the situation? you can't always know what everybody is doing. >> tammy: you can't. there is some common sense when it comes to who you hire, who is in that environment. the most prestigious, important places on the planet, certainly our country and important things happen. it is at the core how americans view our government.

there is also corporate culture and affairs and sex in the senate building happen a lot and between unmarried people. that is not the issue here. the issue this was porno graphic, pornography being filmed by his phone and then put up on to the internet whchl it leaves your phone, it is in the wild wild. for me, as a gay woman, it becomes a problem. we have worked on goodwill of the american people telling you that we are your family, just like you, it doesn't make us crazy maniacs and the gay ink shows up and this is what is trouble withing interpersonal relationships, politics, how groups are viewed, not just this, so many other things going

on that makes americans say what. >> harris: i had on matthew whitaker and he said something that struck me. what happens nexts more about wider society than what was going on in that room. we have to get back to and then go forward with the idea that this is not acceptable. >> no, hope what happens next is testing at a clinic and i hope they disinfect the room like an airplane during the summer of 2020, i hope that level of urgency. i don't want to take a black light through senate chambers and meeting rooms and find out the hard way like these two did. it is not that this kid is gay, bill's point, this kid is expressing horrific judgement. it is incumbent on lawmakers to make sure they are vetting every single person who works for them

and part of that process is simple, go through social media. someone else is 24 years old and knows how to look in the nooks and cranies and find out what the fuller life story is. >> harris: can i just say this? we are moms of teenagers, you have one going to college. >> kennedy: she's in college, as far as i know. >> harris: i hope i didn't get her in trouble. we need people in congress that can do that vetting. we have had ben cardon on, he is a democrat who has come on and debated certain issues. you can't know everything about anybody, this is attached to him now. i am sure there is a ton more out there about this young fellow. he doesn't seem to be withholding much at all. >> harris: tomi.

>> tomi: this is a symptom of young people who have a sense of entitlement, it is about content. to bill's point, stupidity of posting something like this, on the internet, it lasts forever, you think young people would have gotten the memo that the internet is forever, i can do whatever i want as long as i have content, this will be funny or get me likes or street credibility that i did something naughty in an important place. this goes to young people and their addiction for an online audience. how would you know this person was going to create a sex tape? no amount of vetting could have come up with that. unless you dig into their social media. we don't know. >> harris: i think it is worth

looking. >> tomi: this is a teachable moment for children, everything you do online will come to light, especially if you want an important job. >> harris: look at all the visibility. >> kennedy: and access. >> tammy: young people seem to have no connection between seriousness of life and there are repercussions for everything that transcends everywhere. no repercussion, there is seriousness to what happens. it must be. >> bill: my only feeling on that, that is painting with a broad brush, not all young people are like this, should not put them all in the same category. this person was a fool and used horrendous judgement. >> harris: no shooting only fans at the capitol.

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>> kennedy: a startling incident for president biden last night. a car plowed into his presidential motor cade. the suspect has been charged with driving under the influence of alcohol. turning to new poll numbers for president biden. things are looking great, jk,

they are looking bleak. the same poll found president biden trailing former president trump by four points and trails nikki haley by six points in hypothetical match ups and ran 47% with florida governor ron desantis and getting fed up with the numbers and "washington post" headline claims he is growing frustrated by his string of dismal polls. even former president obama is worried. "wall street journal" writing concerns are former president barack obama who knows this is going to be a close race and feels democrats could lose the 2024 election, according to a person familiar with his thinking who may or may not be barack obama. harris, if the obamas want to

help president biden, we know hillary has pledged support and she's going to go stump for the president, why doesn't michelle obama go out there? arguably the most popular democrat in the bullpen. >> harris: there is nothing at play here. the vice president, you don't want another person upstaging her, maybe that is part of it. i find it interesting that the president when asked about this said they were looking at the wrong polls. which ones would he like us to look at? they are not great. which ones does he want us to focus on? you can't ignore this. percentage of people who want anybody, but biden is a lot. what are they thinking?

>> kennedy: i don't know, they are telling the american people this is the greatest economy ever, why aren't polls reflecting that? >> bill: everybody is right until they vote, everything can be legitimate and that is my jumping off point. i've always been surprised, i don't know if this means anything, how few times barack obama has been to the white house. i believe barack obama and michelle obama will be out there come late 2024 and campaign hard. here is what i think about the poll numbers. it is too early right now and numbers will change. i wrote down five variables i think are worth watching. >> harris: break it down. >> bill: the fed. >> kennedy: yeah. >> bill: what are they going to do? >> harris: they are going to lower interest rates.

>> bill: that is why i'm here today to start this conversation. you look at your 401(k) and go, honey, not so bad after all. border, will joe biden cut a deal with republican? a responsible deal that actually changes the influx -- >> harris: tammy, jump in. >> bill: i'm not done. number three -- >> tammy: isn't he irish? >> bill: german. dnc versus rnc, dnc raising a lot of money. high media and tech, who is able to reach voters in closing months of the campaign? dnc has done a brilliant job. last thing is who is third party viable? meaning who can get on a state

ticket and in which states? are they battleground states? who can subtract numbers away from biden? >> harris: kennedy jr. has projected vote in the california of democrats not republican. >> bill: as of today, we do not know yet which states robert kennedy will be viable for. >> tomi: he seems to be hurting president biden more than former president trump when in a three-way match up. >> tammy: because the condition of the economy and world, everything is on fire. usual details may not matter when it comes to how people make decisions. it is not a casual decision now. the future seems cloudy. polls are not specific, presidential race is state by state and shows you the trend. americans are looking and see this trend of people turning,

including independents, to trump, that is what i saw in 2016 with the last fox news poll hillary was still ahead, but independents had moved to trump and i xu he would win. people are beginning to look, will they make changes for next year, on the border? they could have done it a while ago, they could have done it yesterday. they are doing it because it is election year, americans aren't dumb. we do want solutions. it means republicans have to remind the american voter what these people did and will continue to do once and if they got rehired. >> kennedy: will we have a deal or will republicans withhold it as not to give president biden a win fchl they can present a

package to the house -- >> tomi: you will have to see immediate action on the border for peep toll feel they have seen improvement there. when you talk about changing things, change strategy at the border or in talking about the economy, change interest rates, what about changing their candidate? this obama part is more important than we understand. obama is a king maker within the democratic party similar to trump in the republican party. obama is not on the ticket, but could his wife be? i think we are in for something surprising at the convention. democrats may be getting closer and not protesting so much and putting heat on hunter biden and trying to push joe out the door gracefully and if he clings on, they will rain down on him and

obama will be the one to do it. if obama says joe biden is not our guy, i think they will get rid of joe. >> kennedy: hillary is going, pick me, pick me. obama says anyone but you. >> harris: anybody but hillary, anybody but biden. question. >> please. >> harris: what will it take for republicans to shift and start to tell the american people how they will make their lives better? >> kennedy: that is one mistake they made on obamacare and didn't have the goods there. they are strategizing how to take back the senate and presidency. you and many struggling americans want, because they have not heard it yet. migrants in new york city refusing to eat delicious food provided to them at shelters

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>> tammy: new york city has faced a tidal wave of migrants in the past year, causing a crisis in the shelter system. since 2022, the number has tripled from 21,000 to 67,000 and migrants are speaking out about the care they are getting. some migrants are fed up with the lack of quality and variety? sandwiches, pancakes and chicken dishes served as shelters.

one migrant said no one likes the food and another, a lot of people get food on the street because it is better and tastes better. there are reports of moldy food, which is unacceptable. meals are being thrown out each day, but when migrants pay for food because free stuff is so bad, things are out of control. kennedy, we have dynamic where immigrants are treated like the yellow brick road, they are c candid gift bags when they get off the bus and they are getting food that is nottium ep as they would like. is this legitimate complaint? >> kennedy: this is an expensive fix and we can't afford it.

new york city is best food city in the country, looking at you, boston. it is not all absolute garbage and it is hard to make tough choices when you are making a way in the new part of the world. it is probably less expensive to not let thousands and millions in than cater to dietary wants. >> tammy: harris, do they have a good argument? is that entitlement? >> harris: is that a trick question? i look in the face of some of these people and love the way hemmer puts it, you don't paint with a broad brush. you are coming across the border most of the time not legally and

being given court dates in 2027. they are being handed gift bags that can include ankle bracelet, cell phones and food and shelter. now i look in the face of some particularly illegal immigrants who have broken the law to get in and now complain about the cuisine. i don't believe you when you say you left and were being oppressed, i don't believe it, because your first complaint would not be the food, it would be can i stay, life is better, i'm free and i want to thank this country. i don't believe you, you are lying when you say you left hell behind. not calling this heaven, but it is supposed to be better than

when you left. most of my family came from haiti, they came the legal way. i want to believe you, you are making it hard. >> tammy: a lot of people have food that is not fabulous, it seems like is not winning hearts and minds of people struggling. >> bill: it is not all, candy canes and rainbows? what were you going for? >> tammy: unicorns and rainbows. >> bill: good work is hard to find, good work you enjoy doing is really hard to find. there are migrants bussed to new york and boston, washington, d.c., martha maccalluma vineyard. i haven't heard about the upper

midwest or buses going to milwaukee, that is where you win that state in the democratic party, haven't heard about buses in detroit. >> bill: two more, pittsburgh, philadelphia, have not heard that. >> harris: tomi. >> tomi: bus, bus, bus, see the crisis up close and personal. these people claim they are seeking asylum and refuge and come into the country because they have nowhere else to go and use asylum laws with which to get here, they pay cartel and criminal organizations, thousands to get here. they paid criminal organization thousands and they get here and demand better cuisine when you are living on benches and

dumpster diving to stay alive. i don't shed a tear if you claim to be seeking asylum and claem the variety of your cuisine is not up to stairn standards. you are not an asylum seeker. it is wrong and has to stop. >> harris: or the white house could do it. >> tammy: we solved the problem a guilty bit. coming up, reviving a crucial lawsuit regarding fairness in women's sports. four women claim they lost opportunities because they competed against biological men.

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to compete at the high school level. that case was released last year. in the lawsuit, women say they were deprived of opportunities for elite scholarships because they were forced to compete against biological men. why would we call them transgender women? because they are not women. >> kennedy: there is difference between gender and sex and we're having that national conversation, number one. athletes need to be protected and allowed to compete. if you let the best athletes compete, you will not have any women at all. megan rapinoe is leaving soccer, but she says bilodgical men

should be able to compete. get rid of title 9 and ucla will have a swim team again. we don't understand what hormones do with our own bodies when they make them and when they with hold them. how are we supposed to do what they do when you enter them into pubescent independent ager. there is relationship between our body and hormones, natural and synthetic. stop acting like there is settled science here. >> harris: caitlyn jenner says biological men should not be in

women's sports. dr. siegel has told me some is brought on by a prostate drug and it will make bones brittle in young people. we know some of what is happening, but we don't know it all. >> tomi: so wrong we are having that discussion, if you pump the hormone in when they are younger, it will make it more fair. that is disgusting. minors are not old enough to make this decision. riley gaines says this a lot, we need to stop using language of the left talking about women sports, enough with sis gender, it is women sports for women and women spaces for women, stop using biological and cis, it is confusing for everyone involved. women deserve to have their own spaces and locker rooms.

what happen to consent? this me too movement said women had to consent to all types of things, but they don't have to consent to a man being in their locker room? women have fought through title nine and other things to have women's sports. enough using their language. keep integrity of women sports for women, simple as that. >> harris: tammy, i see you nodding. why? >> tammy: i grow in whole part with what tomi said, adding of referring to men as biological men is necessary to counter the claim of being women. women have not known what transgender meant and when you say biological male, they are walking into a shower and you

are told to sleep in the same room with them. it reminds people about the real issue. we spent three or four years with covid and demand that we trust science and now asked to believe only feelings. this is about science and hormones and male and female and the rainbow mafia, it has become a political issue. great voices are speaking up like caitlyn and riley temperature is harming women in sports. >> harris: lgbtq, the t has always been there. >> tammy: no, it hasn't. >> harris: what has changed? >> tammy: politics of it. nature of what is argued from

that end of politics. my having been on the left, it is like with abortion, one way that could raise money immediately and only way, abortion. it is about for some about raising money, for others, about their lives politicization of something personnel because there are activists groups and advocacy and knowa industry. bill. >> bill: i feel badly for the girls who are subjected to this, it is unfair to them. i have always i believe that there will be time and place and case where this is reversed. >> harris: what do you mean reversed? >> bill: a year ago, i thought the lia thomas case was perfect case for why it should not continue. maybe this is the time, the place that will reverse that. >> harris: we don't have opposite of what is happening.

we don't have women joining the n.f.l., you can't grow bone thickness in your skull and protex your pelvis from having thousand pound men fall on you. no matter what hormones you take. >> bill: ven us or serena said, i would get crushed by that guy and navratilova talk about this all the time. they are big boys. >> harris: more "outnumbered" next.

>> final days before election year, new polls show joe biden running into trouble. we'll have the latest in politics. when will joe biden get tough with the houthis and why is he afraid of iran? keith kellogg is here. and soft on crime ideology, hiring new chief of staff who once called the laptop barbarians. sex tape scandal rocks congress, why blame conservative outlets for making this a story? we'll have byron york. i'm john roberts, join us for

"america reports." >> kennedy: we'll be there. this saturday marked 270 years since the boston tea party. colonnists stuck it to the british by dumping teainto the boston harbor to protest taxation without representation to kickstart the revolutionary war and form free and powerful country the us is today. but "washington post" thinks americans were the bad guys. the paper asking was the boton tea party an act of terrorism? a columnist writes white women dawned head dresses in say way that would lead to black face decades later to destroy private

property. the mob trespassed on three ships and destroyed goods with two million in today's money all because they didn't want to obey duly passed law that was also criminal, comparable event now might be classified as an act of terrorism. a bit overdramatic, huh, bill? >> bill: democracy dies in darkness. only reason you write that so folks like us talk about it. men dawned headdresses. i think you said it all. would you agree? >> kennedy: i would agree this person sounds like he's a writer on "the crown." a vowed monarchist. >> tammy: where was that guy when king george needed him?

>> kennedy: where are they people at? >> tammy: attempt to attach it to a modern argument, that is dumb and an insult. you see the linkage, it has to make sense on the arguments to rile people up and not like the country. >> kennedy: everything is racist. >> tomi: it is, writers write this kind of thing because it is senational and they can make an argument about racism. no different than when they tried to malign that young chiefs fan to get attention so people can talk about articles and attach to something racist because that gets us talking about it. white found be fathers bad and they like to maybe tie this to january 6, in some ways, i'm surprised they didn't make that argument thchl is same writer that would talk about looting

and rioting of 2020 being social justice. this gets us talking about it and they feel good about themselves, they feel like they have done something without doing anything to better the lives of everyone. that sums up modern-day journalism. >> kennedy: you are right, what world view are they offer something what alternative are they offering? bill says democracy dies in darkness, competence dies in ignorance. >> harris: we get to watch it. yes, yes, and yes, and i would add, it is really unhelpful to write this kind of stuff right now. >> tammy: great point. >> harris: and to normalize what needed to happen to take us forward. whatever is normalized about what is needed to take us

further forward, history will look back and say, that guy was an idiot, they are looking for newen ras to pump up the oppressed and victims they deem victims and go forward with that as new normal. i say no, i scream no into the darkness and light. you can't tie racism back to the origins from when we were becoming free from a nation that wanted to own us all. >> tammy: like tearing down another statue, anybody statues to go? >> harris: the confederacy. >> kennedy: boston harbor still takes like tea. more "outnumbered" in just a moment, stay with us. okay everyone, our mission is to provide complete,

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♪♪ >> harris: last but not least, it appears menu anxiety is eating gen z alive. 86% of gen zers were scared when ordering at restaurants. many blame the cost of the meal or maybe just can't read anymore. i don't know. they also say that not being able to decide on something they like is a problem. adulting, so hard. here is how some on tiktok explain it. >> i have menu anxiety. honorable mentions, i am also cheap. >> another page, ok, ok. oh, international section. >> i don't know what to get. >> everybody is ready to order and you can't come up with a choice. >> hello, i'm calling from room 252, i would like to order a sandwich. hello, i'm calling from -- ok, i can do this, i can do this. >> hello. >> i'm a sandwich.

>> harris: i can't say anything. my husband is watching this and i might be that girl it takes five minutes to order a sandwich, but i'm not a zer. >> they have a hard time communicating with waiters and waitresses. do you believe this story? i mean -- >> yes. >> yes. >> i think the more mature they get, they'll be just fine. >> i don't think so. >> ordering whatever entree' they desire. >> first of all, it's interesting that the migrants are mad they don't have enough variety and gen z americans don't like the variety they are given, it makes them pick something. maybe that's why they like socialism and communism so much, fewer choices. some young people are used to communicating via instagram or tiktok and writing a message, comes to verbalizing something to another adult, it terrifies them. the same people that cannot get on the phone and make their own appointments, terrified of having to communicate with real

people on the other end or in person, they live their lives doing this. >> harris: phone phobia. >> executive decision-making function of your mind and things going on, smoked pot, don't have experiences, the executive function framework. and when i had covid in december 2021, you cannot decide on things. maybe it is a thing. >> bill: folks in my family have no problem ordering. >> between harris and i, our daughter haves no shortage of opinions, no matter where they go. >> harris: it's true, actually. >> must be related to you and me. >> it should be encouraged. this has been great, you guys. merry christmas. i'm going to dig up some christmas music for tomorrow. you with me? "america reports" now. >> i think that there is rea