i asked him about delays, which has ticked up compared to a year ago and caused a lot of issues for passengers especially those trying to make connections. he says that the faa, which is experiencing an air traffic controller shortage, part of the problem. airlines are part of the problem but he also blamed climate change saying severe weather events are part of the problem. something they are working on in the future, dana. something also to pay attention to at 7.5 million americans hit the skies this christmas. >> dana: i might be one of them. grady trimble. thank you. >> bill: did we leave anything on the table? >> dana: i still need to know about this go-ahead pass thing. touchdown thing. we'll figure it out. >> dana: harris faulkner will take you through the next hour.

>> harris: the heavy weight of a crashing presidency in the polls. president biden reportedly agitated and suddenly starting to care about what americans are saying about him. well, who could ignore voters signaling that bidenomics is a bust? and they are not better off under this president. i'm harris faulkner and you are in "the faulkner focus." a new fox survey shows the economy by far is the most important issue to voters. it usually is. and the word of the day for voters right now is pain. pain over stubbornly high prices under a president who tells them it is not happening. >> the average american is not benefiting economically, people are sad about how things are happening at our federal government? >> i do most of the shopping in my home. the prices were through the roof. when i sat down and looked at what they are telling me

inflation was 6%, 8%, 10%, i roughly say for me it was 30, 35% easy. >> growing food and gas prices. again especially new york city has been a challenge not only for me but other families here as well. >> harris: well, in that same poll nearly 80% say our current economy is ailing rating it fair or poor. 36% of democrats are optimistic it will get better in the next year. 36%? wow. that's bad for biden. 59% of republicans, 49% of independents say it is probably going to get worse. but apparently someone in the white house thinks we're ignorant to the facts. we are not. biden is still set to travel to milwaukee, wisconsin tomorrow breaching the benefits of bidenomics. in "focus" economic expert steve forbes is right next to me on the mezz.

first let's go to fox business's edward lawrence at the white house. >> we are, harris, going to hear the word bidenomics tomorrow from the president. doubling down on the term. fox news polling shows there are issues for president biden and that term. bidenomics specifically. the president desperately trying to remessage the economy people are seeing. only 14% of registered voters believe they have been helped by president biden's policies. that number down over the past two years. when you drill down on this, a growing number of registered voters are dissatisfied with the way things are going. that number is up over the past two years but look at democrats. democrats now 47% of democrats dissatisfied with how things are going. that's a huge increase from april of 2021. the president, though, still using the term bidenomics. >> president biden: that way the poor have a shot. the middle class do well and the wealthy still do well. matter of fact they should be paying a hell of a lot more taxes. they called it bidenomics.

it is bidenomics. we have a lot more to do to put our plan. it's already paying off. >> it means different things to different people. tomorrow the president goes to milwaukee to stress how much money his administration is spending to boost the economy. when you listen to the president or anyone in the administration, they are careful to say they're working to get costs down on some items. not looking to get overall prices down. the definitions are different. republicans say people can't afford biden's america. >> you are exactly right. at some point somebody is going to have to say how are you living like this on a vice president or president's salary with multiple households. their investment schedule must be pretty incredible. >> americans aren't buying what president biden is selling so far. >> harris: they don't have money to buy what he is selling. they have had to buy everything else. thank you. despite the bad polling the white house year end memo says

over the three years since biden as amazed one of the most impactful and rebuilding the economy from the bottom up and middle out and delivered the strongest recovery in the developed world. they took the opportunity to tear into republicans who they say don't have a plan to lower costs. steve forbes, chairman and editor in chief of forbes media is here. okay. let's start with what is myth and what is fact in what they are putting out? >> the fact is the economy got worse when he took office. it was growing at a good pace when he took office. first quarter of 2021. we know what happened to that. even today they can barely get it above 2%. miserable european style growth rates. the growth in jobs are from government and healthcare. millions of people are still not in the workforce. the cost of living is much higher today than when he took

office. the myth they have oh we inheristed a terrible economy. no you made a mess of it. >> harris: the myth that american people are not feeling what's really happening? >> they are feeling. every time they go to the supermarket. something may come down, something else is going up. our educational costs for college is going down, don't think so. healthcare costs unless you get a subsidy and people don't have faith in the future. they don't think things are going to get better with this crowd. >> harris: that's your specialty. when you don't have faith in the future, do you stop spending more, do you stop investing? what happens? does the economy contract so to speak so that people feel more comfortable? >> people are much more cautious. growth comes from investment. if you don't have investment, you don't expand. businesses are slow to do

investment. this administration is hitting them. look at the massive number of regulations. more regulations, costly regulations came out of this administration than any previous one in history. that's a hidden tax. federal reserve may reduce interest rates next year, they are much higher than they were a couple of years ago. bankruptcies are rising. some people are doing well. lower income people are stretched badly. >> harris: i want to get to this. inflation is up since biden took office and americans are feeling it. we haven't dug in on inflation because, you know, the white house likes to tell us that things are coming down, things are getting cheaper. no, inflation is still rising just at a slower pace. the prices are still going up. the already sky high prices and people are feeling it. checking out at the grocery store, look at your screen. ground beef up 35%.

soaring since january of 2021. do they think we're ignorant of the facts? >> they like to think we're ignorant. if they say something enough people will be dumb enough to believe it but the real world hits them in the face and pocketbook. as you pointed out, prices are going up at a slower space but wages are beginning to go up but people feel on the treadmill. the treadmill is winning. >> dana: did you hear john kerry in recent days talking about and telling farmers to produce less? if we won't eat beef we won't notice the high price? >> they want us to go back to eating insects and buying e.v.s that nobody wants and can't have a gas stove anymore. >> harris: let's get to the e.v. thing. president biden is in a hurry to drive an electric car. here is transportation secretary pete buttigieg just yesterday. >> the fact that it costs less to maintain. the fact that they break down

less frequency and the cost savings that you get by not having to buy gas or diesel are why you almost never meet somebody who has an e.v. who says i want to go back to the old technology and keep that old technology. >> harris: i never meet anybody who has an e.v. there are so many large structures on the east coast. a lot of landlords don't want the cars on multi-levels of their buildings because they are so heavy. >> 1,000 pound battery will do that. >> harris: a recent report exposes the cost saving narrative is not entirely true. with all the utilities and government subsidies considered over ten years almost $12,000 of cost per electric vehicle are transferred to taxpayers. effectively socializing the price of recharging an e.v. while keeping the benefits private. steve. that sounds like a scam. >> it is a scam. you have to ask the question what is the point of this whole

exercise of trying to force people to buy something they don't want? they say they'll save the planet. let's parse that. all the minerals you need to dig out around the world. hundreds of new mines, child labor in africa and elsewhere to get the minerals. what's the net benefit? you can't find one. if people want an e.v., fine. let them pay the real price. when the automobile came up several years ago did they subsidize that? people wanted it and entrepreneurs made it better and cheaper. entrepreneurs here, government subsidies, the only one that makes money on e.v.s is tesla. general motors, if they don't change their ways will need a federal bail-out. they're heading for bankruptcy. >> harris: will insurance companies replace the

multi-thousand dollar batteries. technology is starting to grow. we don't know where we're going. >> how do you recycle that 1,000 pound battery? don't ask that question. >> harris: they want to be green but not really. >> it's a cult. one of these things. what were those people thinking. answer, they weren't. >> harris: merry christmas to you. thank you for being here. well, i just spent eight days in the communist nation of vietnam and it shares a border with communist china. i saw a lot. why go now? why, the lord has put a divine assignment of my life to go deeper into spaces that are hard. the vietnam war remains a tender spot for millions of americans. it divides us as a nation as we lost so much blood and treasure and could not break the grip of communism on vietnam. a lot of surprises on my trip. like an exclusive interview with the u.s. ambassador to vietnam

in danang on the very beach, red beach our u.s. marines first landed to fight on march 8th, 1965. both of our dads fought in the vietnam war. a lot of connective tissue between the two of us because of growing up brats, as i say. his dad was a marine, mine was an army combat pilot. napper is on a divine assignment of his own to leave no u.s. fighter behind. >> we just had a repatriation ceremony last week and these are teams that spend weeks out in the field after really just painstaking research to try to identify the site of a helicopter or plane crash. there was work done at sea once. divers going down to find what we hope are the remains of fallen soldiers, airmen, marines, and so once the remains are recovered, they are in a

dignified and solemn way placed in a coffin with a flag draped, an american c-17 will fly in and be a ceremony honoring their names as they board the airplane and then fly to hawaii, pearl harbor there is a facility known as defense p.o.w., m.i.a. accounting agency. it is the dna analysis that takes place. if there is a match the remains can be reunited and often will be burial at a national cemetery like arlington or quantico. >> i had no idea it was that expansive in terms of looking for -- >> these teams are amazing. they will drain lakes, they will take the top off mountains, they will climb high peaks. they will dive down, you know, 150 feet all for this very

solemn pledge we have to the families of the fallen to make sure no one gets left behind. >> harris: the mission to give closure to american families after the vietnam war seems never ending. now new problems are popping up as you know. fentanyl is flowing into the united states from that part of the world. here is what the ambassador says he is doing with vietnam law enforcement. >> harris: you mentioned president biden. i am curious to know how the relationship with vietnam is maybe more important now than ever with potentially what could happen across the south china sea. china is looking at taiwan. that's not a secret. but you are in the region. how do you deal with that? >> well, from an early age i was told try not to engage in hype that calls.

we share very strong interests in maintaining freedom of navigation in the south china sea and ensuring there is freedom of commerce and overflight. during that indo-pacific remains open and countries remain free of coercion. we support the role of international law in the south china sea and elsewhere. including the law of the sea. we and vietnam are on the same page and we work closely with vietnam to insure they have the capabilities they need to defend their interests in the south china sea, including vessels that can protect their natural habitats and resources. and it is just a relationship that has gone from strength to strength. not a slogan to say the u.s./vietnam relationship is the strongest it's ever been. we share so much right now whether it's our trade and investment goals. law enforcement works with us to

stop the flow of fentanyl. pre-curors to the u.s. >> harris: how are the vietnamese helping us stop the flow of fentanyl? >> chemicals -- vietnamese are insuring don't have the ability to leave here or pass through here onto the united states or somewhere else and then the united states. we work closely with vietnam on. they are a partner in this and so we appreciate everything they do to help us in this fight against this terrible scourge of drug addiction. >> harris: that was just a little bit of my eight days inside vietnam where my dad served two tours. so much more to come. i will keep you posted. texas governor abbott is taking matters into his own hands. he has had to do this because the federal government has derelict in its duty when it comes to the u.s. border with

mexico. how has abbott just given his state's police officers the power to arrest illegal immigrants for coming into this country illegally? we'll get into it. the timing probably no coincidence as president biden's border crisis is worse than ever. >> historically for the month of december the number of apprehensions is low. this is not the ordinary situation. we've moved beyond chaos in how this situation has gotten much worse. this is deliberate inaction by the federal government to secure our border. >> harris: agents completely overwhelmed by the surge. in one border town, the ratio of illegals to agents has hit a staggering 200 illegals per every one u.s. border agent. we call that out numbered. art del cueto national border patrol council vice president in "focus" next. stay close for that. ♪

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>> harris: we are taking a look now, the funeral for justice sandra day o'connor. she died december 1st at age 93. this is the washington national cathedral. she retired from the high court in 2006 but for decades she was looked upon as having been one of the world's most powerful women. she grew up a rancher's daughter and broke onto the national scene when she was nominated in 1981 by president ronald reagan. commentators would call her the

nation's most powerful woman. today sandra day o'connor is being memorialized, remembered and eulogized. the president of the united states, joe biden and chief justice john roberts are scheduled to speak at the funeral. as this gets underway, we'll monitor those speeches and bring those to you live right here on fox news. >> biden's deliberate inaction has left texas to fend for itself. the authors of the united states constitution foresaw a situation when the federal government would be inattentive to states that faced challenges at their borders. >> harris: texas governor greg abbott doing it again. this time he signed a bill making illegal immigration a crime in his state. he has to do this sort of thing because the federal government is falling down on its knees. this will give police the authority to arrest people for coming into his state illegally.

border agents are overwhelmed at the eagle pass crossing. remember a few minutes ago before the commercial break i gave you the breakdown, 200 illegal immigrants per every single one u.s. border agent. our cameras have captured massive crowds of them waiting to be processed. one border agent called it the worst day we have ever seen. the numbers have gone right back up. cbp sources tell us there have been more than 12,600 people coming across the border in a 24-hour period. that's on top of the thousands being processed and already in custody and with only 20 agents per shift in eagle pass, texas, for example, to deal with all of it that's happening just there, the ratio to agents again 200 to one is too much. could be dangerous. because among some of these people, not all, among some, a

few, 169 to 180 that we know of have been named terrorists in fiscal 2023. there have been over a million gotaways. people that our cameras couldn't catch and border patrol couldn't catch. how many of them mean something negative for our country? look at this live picture. bill melugin is live in lukeville, arizona. the point of entry was so overwhelmed last week they closed it down, bill. >> yeah, it is out of control. these border numbers we've seen in the last 24 hours alone are the highest single day total ever record ed in u.s. history. it is non-stop and on the border. eagle pass, a source sent us stunning images shows thousands and thousands of illegal immigrants waiting to be waited to border patrol custody. we haven't seen pictures like

this than over two years ago in del rio with thousands of haitians underneath the bridge waiting. the air above eagle pass you can see masses of those migrants waiting to be taken into custody after they crossed illegally. number is jaw dropping. border patrol telling fox news they already have 5,300 in custody and trying to transport and process another 4500. you are talking upwards of 10,000 people an influx in the last couple of days there. over 260% at their capacity with their facilities right now. as a result, the railway bridge in eagle pass and el paso have both been shut down in eagle pass to try to get more cbp personnel to get there to help border patrol with processing. back live the situation in lukeville we have had an influx of mass illegal crossings.

border patrol here trying to keep up as well. we'll send it back to you. >> harris: thank you very much. art del cueto national border patrol council vice president. i don't want to take up too much of your time. what is the worst case scenario and how does governor abbott's law help the state of texas. >> he is nailing it and doing what others aren't doing with the inactiveness of this administration. that's part of the problem. you have know what? it is not just in texas. it is happening throughout the entire southwest border. you ask me for worst case scenario. i don't know anymore. every day is worse than the day before. there are so many areas that it continues to happen and goes unreported because it's more difficult for the media to go there. you see the chaos down in texas. at the same time you are seeing areas down in arizona like on the indian reservation where you have three to four agents having to handle thousands that are

coming in every single morning. but that doesn't get seen because it's a more remote area. it is chaotic throughout the whole border. i get asked is our border broken? i ask back, what border are you talking about? i don't see a border anymore. >> harris: democratic congressman henry cuellar says if president biden is doing something about the border, who knows it? >> you hold people and detain people and figure out if they qualify or not and then if they don't, you quickly deport them. this administration, with all due respect, is deporting people but they are not doing enough to show people being deported. >> harris: as border funding talks in the senate continue, it is looking more unlikely any sort of deal will be reached by the end of the year. i get a lot of push back when i say this. we saw president trump do it. some executive positions that

presidents can take. at least they could stem the tide until congress can do what it has to do. >> they have to send immigration judges down to the border and the message needs to be sent. if you come across, you can't just simply ask for asylum and get released. you will get detained. you have to prove your case right away. if you can't you are sent back. this administration has not given that message. they gave the opposite message. everyone can ask for asylum and get released. now they've ignored there is a problem. they have caused this mess and make no mistake, right now it is a humanitarian crisis but this administration caused that crisis with their open door policies allowing the drug cartel to take control of our border and people's lives bringing them into the u.s. >> harris: my team with put up the numbers. what keeps you up at night, art? >> the future of this country.

look, i got young kids and i got grandkids and everything else. i look at the kids walking around and the country that we know of is no longer that country because this administration not only ignored the problem, but they created the problem. >> harris: god bless this country. we pray for the nation. and we thank you and all those men and women you lead for all they are doing to keep our border sovereign. thank you, art. 27 days until the nation's first nominating contest. the top four republican candidates are all over iowa right now. we are on the ground right there with them. plus after weeks of warning, that volcano in iceland is erupting. lava, smoke everywhere. mind bending images. the very latest on the impact of nature.

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>> harris: it looks apocalyptic.

it's real. the volcano erupting in iceland now. smoke and lava last night after days of earthquakes. air travel so far has not been affected. we've seen when these things happen. sometimes the air quality gets so bad there is no visibility. here is one expert. >> the last reaction is apparently from what we see right now is the strongest one. and also the factor that preceded the eruption was unusual. surprising for this community. >> harris: so far we've been told the lava and smoke are not going to force evacuations nearby yet. we'll watch it. meanwhile here is what we're also watching. the president of the united states at the national cathedral, washington. sandra day o'connor, the former u.s. justice associate is being remembered today.

>> president biden: to the o'connor family my wife jill and i send our love from a grateful nation for her service. i'm humbled to be asked to speak today. to the members of the clergy, the chief justice of the supreme court, past and present, members of the bench and bar, members of the congress, distinguished guests and other americans. 40 years ago in september of 1981 the senate judiciary committee came to order. i was the ranking member of that committee and the day's business was momentous. the nomination of sandra day o'connor to become the first woman in american history to

serve as a supreme court justice on the united states supreme court. announcing her nomination earlier that summer, president reagan described her as, and i quote, a person for all seasons. and it was a person for all seasons. we saw in that hearing and the americans and the world would see through her extraordinary service as a justice, and i might add as a citizen. gracious and wise, civil and principled, sandra day o'connor, a daughter of the american west was a pioneer in her own right breaking down the barriers in legal and political worlds and the nation's consciousness. to her, the supreme court was

bedrock. the bedrock of america. it was a vital line of defense for the values and vision of our republic. devoted not to pursuit of power, for power's sake, but to make real the promise of america. the american promise it holds that we are all created equal and deserve to be treated equally throughout our lives. the high court, she said in her opening statement, and i quote, is a body to which all americans look for the ultimate protection of their rights. it is the united states supreme court that we all turn when we seek that which we want most from our government, equal justice under law. end of quote. equal justice under law is a noble aspiration of human kind,

an aspiration of sandra day o'connor, one that she pursued her whole life. the last justice to have held elective office, she was especially conscious of the law's real impact on people's lives. one need not agree with all her decisions in order to recognize that her principles were deeply held and of the highest order. that her desire for civility was genuine. and her trust in the capacity of human institutions to make life better is what this world was abiding. and how she embodied such attributes under such pressure and scrutiny helped empower generations of women in every

part of american life, including the court itself. helping to open doors, secure freedoms, and prove that a woman cannot only do anything a man can do, but many times do it a heck of a lot better, excuse my language, folks. beyond the bench, justice o'connor valued the civic life of the nation in our schools and community centers and families and in our friendships. yes, america is a land of rugged individual lists and entrepreneurs, but she knew no person is an island. the fabric of our nation, we're all linked and for the america to thrive, america must see themselves not as enemies, but

as partners in the great work of deciding our collective destiny. that's the essence of our national experience. the sacred cause of democracy she devoted to her life to, one that we must continue. i will close with how she closed her opening statement on that september day 42 years ago. she spoke about the power of family. family being the hope of the world. the strength of community, relationship between ourselves and generations to follow. to her sons scott, brian and jay, how she admired your intellect and you may recall that hearing your sense of adventure. we all saw on that day and all

those years after how much she loved your dad. a brilliant lawyer who always, always supported her. to the entire family, including the grandchildren, how hard to watch a disease that robbed them both and you of so very much. but i hope -- i hope you hold onto what is never truly lost, the love both of them had for you. the love you had for them. a love they shared so freely and a love you returned with equal devotion. what a gift. what a gift. i hope you find comfort in another profound consequence of her service, the countless

families that she helped by speaking so openly about your family's experiences. it matters. in that opening statement on that day in september, she mentioned how your parents got married in december. here we gather today, a day before it would have been their 71st wedding anniversary. i know the anniversaries and birthdays, the moments big and small will be hard without them. but as the saying goes, memory is the power to gather roses in winter. i hope you find the strength in knowing that your mom and dad are together again this december gathering roses in winter once again as great americans both

great americans for all seasons. may god bless sandra day o'connor, an american pioneer. >> harris: we're not quite sure how this will go. my notes literally say the schedule has been fluid. of course we know this. they are running a bit behind at this point. but a beautiful ceremony it has been. you heard the comments there from president biden. also expected is chief justice john roberts, on so we'll want to watch that live as well. i was just sharing with my team off camera i was home recently in arizona and she had such an impact on the nation but sandra day o'connor is a hero, an

all-american, air we were in arizona three days before her passing at the end of thanksgiving. people were talking about. saying wow, she would be great for this time, wouldn't she? but it was time for us to remember her and that's what they are doing today. this is really moving at the national cathedral in washington. so we'll pull away from this for just a moment, unless chief roberts is going to make his comments. they usually will break in song and they have been doing that. i don't want to cut away too soon because we aren't quite certain but we'll check back in. justice sandra o'connor being remembered. more polling setting off alarm bells for the biden re-election campaign. no one is ignoring them now,

even though they said it doesn't matter and it's too far out. the president's approval rating has dropped to an all-time low at 34%. wouldn't that put him less popular than kamala harris? it is head under your pillow time and don't come out of the room yet. probably worse news biden loses to donald trump in a potential rematch of 2020 after all that trash talk about he can't get it done. indictment this and that. those things may be true about what the former president is facing, but the current president is now losing to him. now there are also concerns farther down ballot. michigan congresswoman slotkin is running for senate as you may know and expressing doubt about her chances if joe biden is still the democratic presidential nominee. the president is reportedly getting increasingly frustrated, too, according to the "washington post." he gathered his closest aides at

the white house and fuming about low poll numbers pressing his team for a new game plan. "wall street journal" reporting former president obama is worried, too. he still thinks his former v.p. could very well lose. obama's former campaign manager says it isn't a surprise. >> he is reminding democrats it is time to focus on the election. every election in america is close. this thing will be close. democrats need to wake up and start doing the things they do, which is knocking on doors and talking to people. i think that's a helpful message from the former president. >> harris: knocking on doors. what? fix the prices of stuff. mark penn is a former clinton pollster and advisor. doug collins former republican congressman from georgia. i love it when you are together. mark, i start with you and heard you say this before. a message is a message. come on, you would have to

change the facts now. >> well, that's what i think. going back to when i worked with president clinton, you know, we had numbers like this and you really have to reach across the aisle, do something about the core issues which in this case government spending, inflation, immigration, crime, the kinds of issues that people are upset about. and you can't do that with a message. you have to do that with bipartisan come prom aisles -- compromises. do you ever want to pick up the phone and say let me take over. you are being a gentleman. doug. >> i'm not trying to give him advice. might be better than what they're getting now. the big difference in what mark said was important. you had bill clinton able to go out and sell a message. if there was anybody could do it

bill clinton could do it. joe biden can't do it. it has become more and more of the problem here. whatever they try to point to that's good it doesn't work if you don't have a messenger. we saw it in other competitions. the candidate is part of the equation. all the problems they have are solidifying. it's not a new candidate and somebody not known. everybody knows the president. he is the one that has to get this out as opposed to a candidate who is maybe unknown who could sell his way out. >> harris: it sounds like an albatross. you can't go to a plan b even if you wanted to. in terms of changing the policy, you would have to reach across the aisle. i thought that's what joe biden bragged that he was good at that. >> he was good at that. in the administration here and

the way he has run thing. he would say i had success on infrastructure and chip bill. he would say i have done some of those things. but not enough on the top really tough issues. there is a fork in the road here on immigration. the republicans wanted immigration compromise in exchange for more money to israel and ukraine. and if i were the president, i would take the deal. it probably would work for him rather than against him. >> harris: maybe you should call and take the keys to the bus. anyway, long time democratic strategist james carville is the subject of a documentary. he will talk about carville's fight within his own tent to persuade president joe biden to step aside as his party's candidate. he has appeared skeptical about biden in a lot of appearances, actually. >> it sounds to me like you think if the election were held

today biden would lose. >> well, me and everybody else. >> are you proposing a wide open democratic primary or a different ticket? >> this is a choice people aren't excited about. >> if the election was now and the candidates are joe biden, the democrat, donald trump the republican. trump would be a betting favorite. if i told you i would give you even money you would not take that bet. >> harris: that's a friend. according to the latest fox news poll, 54% of democrats want somebody else. you know what i call it, anybody but biden. doug. >> anybody but biden or harris either one. they're struggling right now. let's get out of this game. this is up to the president. president biden will decide whether he will run or not. democratic process in the way they set up their primaries and convention all leads to him to

be the nominee. it will be only up to him to decide to get out. no primary or openness here. it is something that democrats do, i think, have mastered this over the years trying to make sure their nominee gets where they need to be. really at this point this will be the president deciding. i think it will be interesting to see the hunter biden situation is a little interesting to me. he is so connected to his son. all the problems around it. he has made the comment before, harris, he said that he believes what is happening to hunter is because he was elected president. that could become a bigger theme if that goes further. the democrats -- i love to hear mark on this. who is their plan b, c or d? it is really not there. >> harris: mark, i will come to you for plan b. hoer is andy mccarthy on what you just mentioned, doug. >> i think they've already collided. he is indicted in two cases. he will be out there publicly,

as is his lawyer speaking. that will be excruciating for the president. it dredges up stuff that has been kind of vaguely known for years and that joe biden must have thought that he had survived that long ago. and here it is again right at a time when a lot of top democrats are saying maybe time for him to get out. >> harris: we'll do plan b for another time. your thoughts on that plus the news this week his brother, james biden, the president's brother, also with some problems in his history of using the family name for cash. >> well look, i think president biden has some questions to answer. he hasn't answered them. i didn't really think hunter biden's strategy of going out there and saying i'm not testifying for a deposition made any sense to me whatsoever. so look, the president survived this. i go back to when i asked the voters what they care about inflation, immigration, crime, guns, environment is what i

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