we have been doing this for a very, very long time. actually 15 years this january when i took over for my mentor and friend brit hume on "special report." but, amy, my wife, my eldest son paul. my youngest son daniel want to wish you a merry christmas and happy new year. amy? >> wishing you a very merry christmas and happy holiday and beautiful new year. >> bret: paul. >> >> wishing you a amazing holiday and christmas and great new year. >> daniel? >> happy holidays and great christmas. >> bret: we made it through that that was pretty good panel. thank you very much. we are looking forward to 2024. we have a lot of news to confer. we are going to do it well but we are going to keep it -- in unison: fair balanced and unafraid. ♪ ♪ >> i'm rachel campos-duffy and this is a special edition of

"the ingraham angle" from new york city tonight. breaking news tonight, a major win for donald trump. the supreme court smacking down special counsel jack smith and declining to issue an expedited ruling on whether or not the former president has immunity in his 2020 election interference case. fox news senior congressional correspondent chad pier gram iss here with all the details. chad? >> good evening. this is a blow to special counsel jack smith. he asked the supreme court to accelerate whether the former president was immune from prosecution for allegedly interfering with the 2020 presidential election. the court denied smith's request. this slows down smith's prosecution of mr. trump. it could mean there is no clarity on smith's probe until well into 2024. the federal trial was scheduled to start march 4th. this could mean the trial comes amid the political conventions. or, down the homestretch of the presidential election. team trump may want to drag this

out. here's what's next. the appeal goes to the d.c. circuit of appeals, just below the supreme court. smith wrote in his brief he. ed the d.c. circuit to consider the case quickly so the supreme court could handle a possible appeal this term. rachel? >> rachel: all right. thank you, chad. joining me now is mike davis, former clerk for justice neil gorsuch and founder of the article iii project. also with me is stephen miller, former senior adviser to president trump and founder of america first legal. mike, i'm going to start with you. what's your take on what happened today? >> well, jack smith is used to getting unanimously slapped down by the supreme court like he did when he brought a bogus criminal prosecution against former virginia governor bob macdonald. a likely presidential or vice presidential candidate in 2016 and the supreme court today unanimously said we are not

going to hear this case. we are going to go through the normal process. we are not going to go along with your election interference, jack smith. you are going to take this through the normal process and that's the right decision. >> steven, these are not normal times. i keep saying this. but this level of election interference. this kind of persecution of your opponents, whether it's, you know, donald trump or rudy giuliani, it just keeps going on and on. why do i feel like republican leaders are not fully appreciating the moment we are in, they are coming for not just them. they are coming for all conservatives, them included? >> absolutely. and to borrow a popular phrase from the left, in this case silence is complicity. if your elected leader is not speaking out and condemning this brazen, thuggish political persecution of joe biden's chief political rival. and they are helping to create the conditions that make it

possible. the department of justice is on a one hand trying to shield joe biden from accountability for his many crimes, which is why they are not going after hunter for the foreign alien registration act violations that pointed joe while they are also using every single legal tool at their disposal to persecute donald trump for the crime of demanding a fair and honest accounting of the vote. this is the situation that we are in right now as a country. this is a significant setback for jack smith. let's be clear. the real win is for the court to rule that a president is constitutionally immune from being persecuted for the official conduct of his office. a far left prosecutor cannot say that the elected leader of the country can go to jail for using his judgment and his discretion in carrying out his official duties.

>> rachel: well upenn lecturer wrote a piece. he is calling the colorado supreme court ruling breath takingly foolish. he said trump fundamentally represents a political problem, which means he could only be beaten in the political arena. efforts to take him down by other means will only make him stronger for standard politician, a criminal indictment is a major problem. a setback that can derail a career in public office. but for a politician like trump, an indictment can be an opportunity because it confirms the populist narrative. mike he is not the only one. there is others in the narrative saying listen we are trying to take him down through lawfare. it's not working. it's making him stronger? what are we going to do? what is your take on that. >> i have been saying that since the unprecedented, unnecessary and unlawful home raid on president trump and mar-a-lago on august 2022. i said this is going to put president trump back in the white house and people laughed.

and here we are 16 months later and it's back firing badly on the democrats. their two impeachments, their two bogus impeachments, their four bogus indictments for noncrimes, their two illegal gag orders, they're gagging a criminal defendant which is unamerican. they are trying to kick him osprey the ballot with these four lunatic left wing judges out here in colorado for the first time in american history civility war insurrectionist. using it now against their political enemies. of course this is going it backfire. the american people resent the fact that democrat prosecutors and democrat judges and democrat hell holes think they are going to decide the next president, instead of the american people. >> rachel: yeah. we used to do all of this at the ballot box. i don't know what is going on. here is msnbc legal analyst who is not taking the news today

very well. listen. >> this makes it more likely, alex, that the trial of president trump and the federal election interference case will either happen much closer to november or not at all. and here we have no indication of what anyone was thinking. all we see is a one line denial of the petition and no ininsight how we got to that place. >> rachel: is she worried because of the democrats know that the courts are their only hope in getting joe biden elected and also, i want you to speak a little bit to what will happen if, you know, donald trump ends up in jail or osprey of these ballots? what happens to the country? take your first question. the radical left is using the weaponization of government to try to stop donald trump from returning to the white house full stop. everybody knows this fact. think about the timing here.

all of the facts that are adding alleged in this bogus, ridiculous indictment were known two years, in some cases more than that ago. all of this political persecution could have been started two years ago. but they waited until they thought it would have a maximum impact on the election. >> that is why they are now trying to go and have, fortunately for them, failed at a supreme court to expedite the rulings to put president trump on trial at the point in time where they think it will up flick maximum political damage. as to what may happen with the outcome of any of these things, all i can say is this: the american people are seeing through it. poll after poll after poll shows president trump way ahead of joe biden in a presidential election. because the americans understand the government is being weaponized to try to change the results of a fair and democratic election in the future. and one last point on this. we are heading towards christmas where we take stock of what we

are grateful for of americans. for centuries we could say we are grateful to live in a constitutional republic governed by the people. if the department of justice is successful in rigging a presidential election, in taking out a leading -- the leading contender for that office, then we will have ceased to be living in a constitutional republic. we will be living in autocracy ruled by unelected deep state. >> rachel: mike, a former obama official floated this theory as to why he thinks it's okay to take trump osprey the ballot. watch this happening wage of the 14th amendment insurrectionist cannot hold office. the supreme court says arnold schwarzenegger is removed from the ballot for being president you have to be a natural born citizen and su schwarz. r

>> in order to disqualify under section 3 of the 14th amendment, congress has to pass a federal criminal statute which congress did in 186 #. jack mitt would have to bring charges under this federal criminal statute for insurrection. a federal grand jury would have to approve those charges. a federal jury would have to unanimously find him guilty a federal judge would have to convict and that conviction would have to be upheld on appeal. that is the only way that you could remove someone under section 3 of the 14th amendment. you can't do it through partisan goof ball judges on a state supreme court. >> rachel: wow, unprecedented times, no question about it. two great guests reminding us of that thank you michael and steven. up next, new details on the tools that cartels are using to overwhelm our border. plus, a chicago resident's plea to city leaders that he says are prioritizing illegals over

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three guys dressed in camouflage behind us at the border wall here who are using this electric power saw to cut through the border wall. this has been happening all week long. they were able to chase the guys away. they left the saw behind and ran osprey into mexico. but it's the sort of thing that happens out here day in and day out just this week alone 45,000 people have crossed our border illegally. that's enough to fill yankee stadium to capacity. just getting in the numbers from november. more than 242,000 illegals were arrested at the border. breaking yet another record. 17 of those were on the terror watch list. but, if you ask the biden administration, none of this is really that big of a deal. >> what we are seeing here at the border, the migration flow, increased migration flow certainly, you know, it ebbs and flows. and we are at a time of the year where we are seeing more at the border. and it's not unusual.

>> rachel: just ebbing and flowing. joining me now is lisa boothe, fox news contributor and host of the truth lisa boothe and senior adviser for senate republicans. lisa, i mean, i don't even know, i'm almost speechless. >> rachel it, seems to flow more. i have been listening to her. it seems to just be flowing in one direction, right? >> rachel: they keep saying oh, another talking point of hers is the immigration system is just broken. it's not broken. it's operating exactly the way they want. it's open. >> this is with design. i mean, this is what they want. they wanted this from the beginning when they halted deportations. when they, you know, stopped building the wall. when they got rid of remain in mexico. this is totally by design. putting americans at risk. you look at those numbers on the terror watch list. 2023, i think there was almost 740 on the terror watch list. they are talking about 73,000

for special interest illegal aliens, meaning they are coming from countries that harbor terrorism or are a threat to the united states. we look at the fiscal year 2024 alone. thousands from china. a couple thousand from russia. 1200 from turkey. we know there is a lot of people coming from various middle eastern countries. we have essentially ceded our country for foreign enemies without them having to fire a shot, rachel. >> rachel: no, it's absolutely unbelievable. garrett, i want to point out a according to the "new york times," again, over 24,000 chinese nationals were apprehended at the border over the last year. and that's more than we have seen, you know, in the last 10 years combined. so that's a huge issue, isn't it? >> it's astronomical issue because of national security, right? >> rachel: they said it's not national security. it's just a border immigration thing. >> right. right. exactly. that's what they would like us to believe rachel, right? take a step back, 242,000 people coming in the one month. like the city of buffalo crossing over in one month. that's absolutely insane.

take a step back. why does this matter? joe biden sphured this border crisis. he didn't want to finish president trump's wall. evidence rescinded title 42. allowed border patrol agents to expel these migrants and illegal immigrants coming across. remain in mexico like lisa pointed out got rid of that as well. intentional exactly what he want thissed. why does it matter national security aspect what happened in israel could happen here. people are very afraid of something like that. when you have known terrorists or people affiliated with terrorist curve tries coming over here that's a huge problem. there is economic impact. you are talking about port of entries where tourism is needed. those have had to been shut down because had to process migrants. it's a big problem going into 2024. >> rachel: it would be a national security problem for destabilizing mexico and turning into narco-state. none of this makes sense. secret bio labs from the chinese. chinese coming over. none of this is safe for america. lisa, to the point we just talked, about a piece in the "the washington post" describes

g.o.p. efforts to close the border as something that would, quote: degrade not strengthen our u.s. security writing, quote: what does safeguarding national security have to do with curbing immigration for the most part? not much. again, that goes more to the point of what we were talking about. talk to you two about the ngos. we are not hearing enough about this coordination between our government, the u.n., who is handing them, you know, basically debit visa cards with money on them. all the ngos are getting our tax dollars including catholic charities complies submit open border by the way is facilitating child sex trafficking. >> you are so right. we have ngos which are essentially facilitating massive illegal immigration and the rest of what comes with that. they are getting billions of dollars from this administration. a lot of it is coming from fema. they are taking these -- they are receiving these illegal immigrants from dhs. they are housing them. they are transporting them. they are also coaching them on the asylum process, aka, telling

them how to get in the country, claiming credible fear when we know that most of these people are coming here for economic reasons. or maybe nefarious reasons when you talk about the people on the terror watch list. it's a huge problem, rachel. they are getting taxpayer grants. they are getting taxpayer money, and we are funding all of this, and it's insanity. >> rachel: i wonder what can be done about these ngos. i don't want to take the focus. we need to defund them, of course. i don't want to take the focus osprey the administration. because, obviously, all of this is happening because they are allowing it to happen. but the ngos are taking a lot of our tax dollars. what can individual states who are being harmed. should those a.g.s be able to sue the ngos for the cost, for the crime, for everything that's happening to their individual states. >> there is a number of things they could do. congress should work to defund call them and haul them across oversight or the homeland security committee, answering these type of questions here. again, they are spurring on what is happening as invasion of our country here. you are talking about these are

folks from all over the world coming across. it's not just when you are seeing the fox news reporting at the border of that bill is doing. right, rachel? it's not like nice young women joseph mary and jesus. it's very grown aged men single men coming across here. that's a big problem. too. at the end of the day, this is why we need a change in the white house. that's why we need to take the senate back as well. ted cruz, kari lake, arizona texas border a big issue. they need to run on that and focus on that and need president trump back to secure the border as well. >> rachel: why are the republicans funding these ngos. >> we are funding ukraine too. it's insanity. >> rachel: it's insanity. george soros is funding them. >> it's clown world what we live. in. >> rachel: clown world but dangerous. really dangerous. >> it is. >> rachel: thank you both for joining us. lisa, garrett. >> come to compete with jobs. what about the black children in the ghetto? we have to make a future for them.

trump come in here, clean this mess up. the most corrupt city in the united states. there's a city of chicago. >> wow, those are truth bombs. chicago residents are seething over the nearly 27,000 illegals who are descended on the city in just the last year. the message to city leaders, take care of us first. joining me now is pastor corey brooks, ceo of project h.o.o.d. pastor brooks, how utterly demoralizing it must be for these residents. what is going on? is he a reflection of the way others are feeling? >> he seems to be a reflection of what others are feeling. you know, chicago is a microcosm of what going on all across the country. we have been made a sanctuary city. and, you know, typically, the citizens would have something to say about that. but, here in chicago. we are not getting -- we are not able to practice a true democracy by saying if we want to be a sanctuary city or not

and as a consequence, they are being flooded into our neighborhoods. and lots of funds are being invested into individuals who are not american citizens. and for a lot of people, that seems to be a major problem. >> yeah. speaking of that. here is another chicago woman who spoke out at the city council meeting. watch. >> i'm not for the sanctuary city. the reason why i'm not for the sanctuary city is because people have waited years to come in here legally. not just transported on these buses, dropped osprey in our neighborhoods. rates of crime. almost got hit several times just making it down here today. and this is ludicrous. >> rachel: pastor brooks, that really resonates. my mother is legal immigrant to this country. not only did she go through the proper process. back when she became a legal citizen, the fbi went and talked to her family back in her home

country. that's how much security we had back then compared to now where they are being vetted 24 hour period. i know that for myself because i went down to the border and spoke to some of the people doing the vetting. they get on airplane and come to your city. and where is the compassion for your -- the residents in chicago? >> yeah. you know. most black people have no problem with legal immigration. we're welcoming to our communities. we are welcoming to our neighborhoods. the problem that we're experiencing is the illegal immigration that's going on. the fact that we're a sanctuary city, individuals are taking it upon themselves to fly to chicago or be bussed to chicago, and as a result of that, a lot of funds that typically hopefully would have went to our schools, that are deplorable, fighting crime in our neighborhood and in chicago desperately needs it, those funds would have gone toward those issues. but, as a result, those funds are being spent on immigrants, illegal immigration.

and this just should not be in any city in america. >> rachel: that man said trump, come here and clean it up. do you feel -- i just need -- you are in touch with a lot of black people in that community. are other people saying, other black african-americans, are they saying trump come here and clean it up? do they want trump over biden? are they blaming -- are they giving the right people the responsibility for what has happened at our border and what is now happening to your city? >> there is no doubt about it that people are blaming biden. there is no doubt about it that should be an uptick, the poll suggests for trump. especially amongst black males. a lot of us feel like for far too long a lot of people in our community have been so loyal to the democratic party that and has not paid osprey. and it is not paying osprey a lot of individuals believe they should now consider taking their vote elsewhere. i believe you are going to see a real uptick in the voting of

black males for donald trump in the upcoming election. >> very interesting. pastor corey brooks, do you a lot of good work in chicago. we appreciate you coming in and filling us in on more of what is going on in your beautiful, once beautiful city. thank you, pastor. all right, well, bidenomics put a bunch of coal in the stockings of americans this christmas. monica crowley explains. plus, what happens when a rogue wave smashes into a cruise ship? the shocking video, next. most?

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>> rachel: british cruise passenger ride of a lifetime a rogue wave knocked a ship out of power. jonathan hunt joins us live from west coast news room with all the details.

jonathan? >> can i tell you from experience the north sea is an intim da dating body of water. the best of times. these were clearly thought the best of times. this is the moment a huge wave hit the bough of the ms modern. the passenger filming the camera laptop in his room is stopping as the wave hit and the emergency horns began to sound. the ship was about 160 miles from the coast of denmark in one direction. and a little over 200 miles another as the wave hit and other smaller but still pretty large waves followed. passengers went sliding across the store. furniture and goods on store. basically anything that wasn't affixed to the floor. fortunately there were no serious injuries and the 266 passengers and 131 crew members are all safe, a rescue ship was able to get to them and it's being towed to a german port

where it should be arriving shortly. the passengers were hoping to see the natural phenomenon of the northern lights. instead they got an entirely different display of mother nature's power. you can see the northern lights just as well from on land. i know which i would choose, rachel. >> rachel: me, too. merry christmas, jonathan. thank you. >> merry christmas to you, too. >> rachel: you got it. >> what is your message to americans who just think what have you done with the economy is not enough. >> it's going to take tom same for them to feel the accomplishments what we have been age to do in the last three years. that's not something that i say. that's something that economists are said. >> rachel: how reassuring what do americans think as we head into christmas? >> new survey from crc research reveals that 49% feel they are in a worse position to celebrate the holidays this year than compared to last year. joining me now monica crowley, former assistant secretary of the treasury and host of the

monica crowley podcast a great podcast. monica, americans aren't buying presents. they are not buying homes. they are certainly not buying bidenomics. where is the disconnect? by the way, she actually looks like she is lying when she says it, doesn't she? >> y., she does have that tell when she starts to flutter her eye lashes you can tell she is not telling the truth. which is most of the time. you know, rachel, to quote judge judy, don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining. and for the last three years, joe biden and his team, including karine jean-pierre have peed on our leg about the economy and told us that it's raining. it is not working the american people are not believing what they are selling out of the biden team. because they're living this economy and they have been for the last three years. you know, when president trump handed osprey this economy to joe biden in january of 2021, we were coming out of covid and president trump handed him the

fastest economic recovery from any crisis on record. the economy was growing at about 6% and inflation was at 1.4%. and the covid unemployment was falling like a rock biden comes. in he reverses all of the pro-growth economic policies of president trump. and, of course, began this outrageous government spending that led to hyper inflation and led to unsustainable budget deficit. so, the people who are getting squeezed the most through bidenomics, rachel, are the middle class, the working class, and the poor. and ironically, those are the same groups that biden and the democrats say that they champion. but those groups know better because they are really being squeezed and hurt very badly. >> rachel: i just saw. this it said that in order to maintain their standard of living. the average american would have to spend an average of $11,400 more. just to be in the same standard of living as they had under the trump administration in 2021.

i mean, that's remarkable. just antidotally, i went to a print shop this week. the printer there, rich, told me that they got half the orders that they got last year for christmas cards. i have talked to people who are in the charity and philanthropy business. they are all down. saying they are getting half of the donations they were getting. this is going to have trickling down effects all the way into next year. things we haven't even accounted for. >> yeah, sky high energy prices. of the middle class and poor getting squeeze the most by. this and they continued to spend out of control way. they keep pushing these big government programs, and big spending. they don't care much bigger prize transforming the u.s. economy into a more collective and socialist kind of model. they really don't care, rachel, that most americans have to choose between eggs and milk or can't, you know, put the number

of toys under the tree that they really want to this year for their children. they simply do not care. >> rachel: yeah, they certainly don't. 34 trillion in debt. >> and growing. collapse is perhaps even imminent collapse perhaps even intentional. i think you are right, monica. thank you for joining us. again, catch the monica crowley podcast. new details showing just how close a top sponsor of terror iran is working with yemen's houthi rebels and that is next. we're going to talk about that. ♪ biovanta is the only number one physician-recommended product chosen over all others, including tylenol, mucinex, zicam, and nyquil / dayquil. the combat symptoms and boosts immunity. biovanta really works.

♪ >> rachel: new details tonight about who is helping attacking ships in the red sea. surprise, it's iran. a u.s. official telling fox iran is providing real time tracking information sharing the exact location with the houthis so they can launch drones and rockets at the ships nsc says iran is deeply involved in planning the operation. even providing some of the weapons joining me is jim hanson. chief editor of the middle east forum. jim, how dangerous of a moment is this right now? >> iran has been escalating all

of the recent malevolent acts. all of the strongs from their terror pup pets go back to tehran. hamas, hezbollah, the militias in iraq and syria, they have had all of them attacking both us and israel. now, they have activated the houthis, another one of their farm teams, and they are taking attacks at shipping in the red sea. which is an intolerable situation. we will have to do something about this. now we have got all these ships having to go around the horn of africa, which is 40% farther. that's not something the united states can tolerate. >> so, to your point, jim, the leader of the houthi movement delivered this morning to the united states on wednesday, watch this. >> we will not stand idly by if the americans with tempted to further tool foolishness by targeting our country and waging war against it. any american targeting our country will be targeted by us. we will make american battle ships, interests, and navigation the target for our missiles,

drones and military operations. >> rachel: jim, we have known since 2015 that iran has been funding the houthis. and, yet, the biden administration remains obsessed with the iran deal. what's your reaction to what that houthi leader said and what do you think should be done? >> well, yeah, talk is cheap, buddy, is my reaction to that iran put them in the game and now they are going to pay the price. i think the houthi's little fishing boat flotillas are about to become flots and jettison and oil jets on the red sea. we should take that iranian spy ship they are using for command and control and send that to the bottom. this is why we build aircraft carriers. sometimes we send 90,000 tons of diplomacy to try to change people's minds. when that doesn't work, then it's time for payback is a medicine avac. >> i understand your sentiments, jim, i'm really worried about

this thing escalating and getting into world war iii. i just wish our administration would use more diplomacy and more caution and have better judgment when it comes to iran. i appreciate you joining us today. great information. >> rachel: who's the boss? when it comes to our relationship with china it's xi jinping. the new report reveals xi taking taiwan. xi knows we won't do anything about it just like he knows we won't do anything about them interfering in elections. a new intel report is detailing how the ccp ramped up its attempt to influence the outcome of the 2022 midterms. and officials are now concerned that china, those activities in next year's presidential election. in fact, get worse. the national security agency reports since 2022 vote. that china has been experimenting with a.i. to

spread disinformation. laura spoke with former trump director of national intelligence john ratcliffe about all of this and more. >> laura: john, in reading this report, they went out of their way to say that, well, there is no sign in 2022 that any infrastructure was tampered with. does that mean that couldn't happen in the future? >> laura, the first thing that jumped out of me when i looked at the report, the grudging admission that the 2020 report were the majority view that was expressed that while china preferred that joe biden become president, stood on the sidelines and did nothing about it, that that was wrong. i said that was wrong at the time. i wrote a dissent letter. china had a significant influence campaign to try and help joe biden and harm donald trump. and that's what is expressed in that current report is that those efforts are going to, as you said, not just continue but

intensify. and i do think that, you know, china will focus on things like artificial intelligence and other means to try and continue to, you know, influence the american people, very clearly, you know, china has and continues to want joe biden to be the president, to be the next president because he has been very good to china and, as you said, unwilling to confront them. everything from the embarrassment over the spy balloon to their aggression against aggression taiwan straits and south china sea. >> absolutely. i think. >> laura: dream president for china. >> you know, laura, this report does, you correctly say, it really goes through all sorts of contortions to avoid talking about the purpose of china's efforts to try and influence the outcome. they talk vaguely about china will target anti-china-u.s. politicians ignoring the fact

that in 2020, the largest anti-china u.s. politician, the only one on the presidential ballot was president trump and that in 2024, that will be either president trump or a republican and that, you know, joe biden and the democrats, again, have been a dream candidate for china's naked aggression really around the world. john, the atlantic, yes, that's still publishing, is claiming that xi jinping actually wants biden to lose, talk about disinformation. and claiming that joe has hit china harder than trump ever did. the chaos of the trump presidency allowed chinese propagandist to cast the united states as a super power decline. biden's reengagement has made spreading that narrative harder. take a back at that one. at a whack at thatone. >> it shows the atlantic as part

of the media, social media continuing to work to create, you know, a false narrative about that. look, joe bidenens foreign policy not just with regard to china as we have talked about, but with regard to all of america's adversaries, everything from running from the taliban to now on a daily basis getting sand kicked in their face by, you know, iran, hamas, and even the houthi rebels, you know, this turn the other cheek foreign policy really projects not just weakness but fear. and, you know, all of our adversaries but particularly china has been benefited from that around the globe. >> rachel: up next, a special guest is joining us all the way from the north pole. could it be? is it really him? we'll be right back with santa. stay right where you are at.

speech to the christmas season is so special. the traditions, the meaning

behind it, spending time with your family and friends. nothing is better than that. and tonight we are so blessed to have a very special guest joining us, all the way from his workshop. it's the big man himself, santa claus. so, santa claus, thank you for joining us today. people want to know -- people do know you santa claus, but they also know that you go by st. nicholas, so how did you get that name? >> well, that is correct. st. nicholas, i became a saint by qualifying a miracle. i used to be a bishop and i became a saint when i cleared rough seas. some people don't realize i'm actually the patron saint and savior of fishermen. >> rachel: that's right. you are originally from the country that is now turkey. what great history you are offering us here on your legend and your life. so, tell us this. if somebody is on the dash first, let me ask you this: what

do you do in your off-season >> let's see. there's a few places i like to visit, especially florida, so i've spent some time down there it's a baby alligators recently. >> rachel: i think we have some pictures of you in florida, don't we? >> yes, you do! i had such a good time down there. >> rachel: [laughs] who knew santa love florida as much as the rest of us? santa, what do we do? someone's on the naughty list right now. is it too late to get off, and what can they do? >> it's never too late. there's always a second chance available. in actuality, there is not too many naughty kids. there's mostly misunderstood ones. when i used to give coal, people thought that was a punishment, but back then all the homes were heated with coal, so that was a second chance for those children to give that to their families to help eat their home. >> rachel: i didn't know that.

that's awesome. everyone knows you are partial to cookies. lots of kids leave you cookies. but what if the kids want to leave something for the reindeer? what should they leave for the reindeer? >> my reindeer really like carrots. they like raw ones, not so much cooked ones. they also like if you take dry oats and sprinkle it with cinnamon. but my favorite is, whenever there's a broken candy cane and a child is upset with that, i remember stomach or mind of its very special because i take the broken ones, curse them into little pieces, and give them to the reindeer is a special treat. >> rachel: i love that, don't waste a thing. how do you fit down the chimney? and what you do if people don't have a chimney? >> fitting down the chimney is a little easier with some christmas magic, but if i don't have it to me to go down and i don't have a fireplace, that's when my magic key comes into place. >> rachel: a magic golden key. i love it.

i know you are so busy this time of year. what is your favorite christmas movie? >> oh, this might surprise everyone. my all-time favorite christmas movie is actually "a flintstones christmas carol." >> rachel: that's a good choice. my favorite, "miracle on 34th street" and "it's a wonderful life." santa, it's great to have you here today. all the little kids are waiting for you. i know you are so busy. what are you doing next? really quick, what are you doing right now? >> finishing all i can and taking my big trip around the entire world to see all of you and leave something special underneath your tree. ho, ho, ho! >> rachel: thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule to talk to us. make christmas and good luck over the next few days. >> merry christmas. thank you. >> rachel: for all of you who took your kids to see santa, that's a beautiful thing. make sure you also s take them o

see jesus in church this weekend. the best part of the season for me is observing how much time our 4-year-old, valentina, who happens to have down syndrome, spends in front of our family nativity scene. here she is reading to jesus. she is there all the time when i walked by her in the house. she is there sitting in front of the nativity scene. other times she brings the magi gifts, these little boxes i have on our family altar. how did she know to bring them in front of jesus? she will sometimes move the baby closer to herself, she talks to the statues. sometimes she is just sitting in front of them pondering, studying them. every time i see her there, which is often throughout the day, i can't help but realize how she's teaching all of us to slow down and spend some time with the baby jesus this christmas. that's it for me. i'm rachel campos debbie in for laura ingraham you should check out our podcast. here is will cain. ♪ ♪