>> new reaction after maine attorney general disqualified trump from the ballot. this is one week after colorado supreme court decided to ban him from their ballot. that decision is on hold. there is growing call for the u.s. supreme court to make a final ruling on trump's future. i'm julie banderas, joining us is cheryl casone, fox news contributor tomi lahren. that is a lot of tomi lahren. and director of tech policy center at heritage foundation kara frederick and host of the david webb show david webb, not wearing my favorite cross earring today.

shawna bellows has selfies with president biden plastered all over her social media and served as executive director of aclu and hours after her landmark ruling she ran to the liberal media. >> first and foremost, it is important to know my oath to constitution and obligation to rule of law come before any other consideration. no other factors could weigh on that decision and did not. i'm duty bound to make this determination. we also, i rather laid out that the record demonstrates events of january 6 were an insurrection in the meaning of section three of the 14th amendment and in reviewing facts

presented, the law, the history, we determined under section three of the 14th amendment that mr. trump engaged in insurrection and is disqualified. >> julie: and she doubled down on her decision and dodged questions when asked if her ruling would silence voters, watch. >> this takes away from voters having their voice heard, do you believe this is a valid concern? >> again, my first and formost obligation is my oath to uphold the constitution and rule of law. my sole consideration is oath to uphold constitution. >> julie: chad pergram joins us now. >> chad: good afternoon, bellows

contends mr. trump chose to light the match which triggered the riot, unclear if 14th amendment was designed for this. >> people that framed that and wrote that knew what insurrection was, civil war where 600,000 american citizens died, the drafters of this ratified it in all states. it is ludicrous legal joke. >> chad: political adversaries are coming to his defense. >> it really opens up pandora's box, this will not be legally sustained by the u.s. supreme court, but there will be different legal cases front and center. >> getting booted from the ballot in maine is more important than colorado, maine

splits electoral votes. mr. trump secured one of maine's votes in 2020, there is now effort to impeach bellows. >> maine voters, made of citizens and not -- >> democratic maine representative jared golden said he voted to impeach the president, but says he should be allowed on the ballot unless found guilty of insurrection. julie. >> julie: it is unconstitutional.

>> kara: they will be able to parade around and feel they have done something. as governor ron desantis said, these are probably not go be to be upheld or pass legal muster. supreme court will have to act and they well upon this. it is about getting their 15 minutes of fame. they feel they have to satisfy that itch and urge with trump derangement syndrome and keep trump's legal issues top of mind because they don't want to talk about the poll numbers. they would rather talk about trump because that is easier than talking about the mess they created. they soak up headlines, it seems like a problem for democrats, they are manipulating the

process. >> julie: ron desantis made a good point saying this is pandora's box, what if a republican came out and said biden is undergoing impeachment inquiry, they wouldn't be able to take biden off the ballot. with a republican, it is a different story. >> david: think about wisconsin, during scott walker's time, they did million s in damage and that is what would happen in texas if they took trump off the ballot. if you go beyond this, you see blatant political ploy. bellows is reading the 14th

amendment, she is an elector of the president ore vice president, no charge of insurrection, they have not prosecuted or proven. this is about press for the moment, keeping the legal ball in the air. the supreme court has to weigh in on colorado by january 5th, they have to print ballots. the democrats will keep doing this, she puts it right to the state supreme court. why? she knows it is garbage. >> it is arrogance and it is hers, look at the station she put out there. she said i conclude mr. trump used a false narrative and likewise mr. trump was aware of

likelihood of vile sxens supported it. she is out of her league and lane, it is going to the supreme court. that amendment she is citing, you mentioned how ludicrous it is. 1868, this was put in the constitution and barred those from holding office if they engaged in insurrection. pretty sure donald trump was not charged or convicted of insurrection. >> i'm pretty sure trump wasn't around back then. >> david: in their mind, he was the confederate president. they are characaturinging trump.

>> julie: the supreme court has until january 5 to come out, so this is on pause. colorado court has appealed, you have colorado, michigan and maine, supreme court needs to get in quick. >> kara: they will. they are trying to disenfranchise the people temperature is arrogance. is this woman used to be executive director aclu saying, i, i believe. we at twitter don't want you to see the hunter biden laptop story. that is a trend we are seeing over and over again and it has to be stopped, we believe in the

rule of law, not the rule of one woman who knows what is best for us. >> julie: chicago mayor causing to tackle the violent crime crisis.

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♪ ♪ >> cheryl: progressive chicago mayor pran brandon johnson says the city has to get more involved by paying reparationings. total violent crime, aggravated battery and car jackings are up.

he says this will help address chicago's cycle of violence. watch. >> what i've built in seven months to have a better and safer chicago requires full force of government. individuals who have been incarcerated because of failed policy, we'll have welcoming policy for them to address cycle of violence, which being looks like school closings. to build a stronger, safer chicago, requires investment. >> cheryl: let me get this straight, he is asking for millions of dollars from chicago. let's hand out money for reparations because that will

fix the crime problem. >> i'm not a mathematician, he is putting $100 million toward crime prevention, 500 million toward reparations. he is not paying attention, he's ignoring the crime problem saying the crime problem is due to blacks in the city, so pay them off and maybe they will stop committing crimes? it is absolutely ridiculous. give that money to the police and empower the police. you are laughing. >> david: not at all. >> call a spade a spade, ridiculous. >> david: i'm sorry, spot on. high five this woman. only thing he said in the beginning was government, he

believes government should control everything around you. it does imply blacks are the problem and if you give them cash, they won't rop your story, this is what happens when you elect a socialist and get someone who is segregationist. he is not dealing with the effect of that, winter is coming in the windy city, things will get worse and they don't do anything about rise in crime because they keep reducing the police force by policy or fact people don't want to join the force. who pays the price? 500 million. who gets paid? i'm a black man. will i get any? >> cheryl: i have a sense why he is doing this. the city council meeting, who

was angriest about all the money going to support illegal immigrants in the african american community. he says, here is an answer, i will give you reparations hoping to politically shut them up. >> kara: so easy to be a democrat, here is money on someone else's dime, vote for me. there is mentality we are seeing where there is oppressor versus oppressed mentality. everyone will start getting mad, cultural marxism comes into play. what america was built on is

eq equality. it doesn't solve problems. >> cheryl: i will say, we will see this play out in california and this was a big thud on the ground and this is after gavin newsom spent political capital, how much it cost to give reparations. he went never mind, chicago cannot afford this. other states following suit, this is a giant distraction from the failure. you don't have money to throw at things. you can't just make more money, this theory democrats can throw money at a problem and it will

go away, they tried this with hom homelessness. keep propping up, look here, not there, to appease people. i can make you safer by throwing money at certain lace and demographic and that will solve your problems. it should be insulting to the ones that stand to gain. fund your police force and follow through and don't undermine your police force, that is how you solve crime. not throwing money at a certain race. >> you have more. >> david: i have a lot more, we don't have time. how insulting to black people in chicago you are worth a check. or free debit card that somebody else paid for. if you are in chicago, this is your value, might as well show up like they used to with fried

chicken and cornbread to go vote. in newark, you show up, they feed you. >> cheryl: it is condescending. >> david: and dangerous. criminals don't stop whachl happens if a black criminal gets a check and the white criminal is not and don't get a check. can you help me? >> no. i can't can't. i will use my censor now. >> cheryl: fellow seniors have advice for 81-year-old president biden as age concerns shadow his 2024 campaign.

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♪ ♪ >> julie: concerns over 81-year-old president biden's age worrying democrats for months and now some fellow senior citizens are offering friendly advice for our octogenarian president, asking senior democratic voters what tips they would share with the president. there was no shortage of advice, most dealing how biden could come across without seeming so old. raise your voice so it doesn't sound papery. chuck the cue card and speak

from the heart, quit jogging to the podium which makes him appear awkward and stiff. i have to agree with some of their advice. jogging to the podium, never seen him run to the podium, seen him trip to the podium and get lost, jogging is probably not a depend idea. >> david: if you need a -- if you are an octogenarian giving advice to octogenarian, isn't that beginning of a problem that we have a guy so old that he can't give a full speech. where is clarity when he can't do anything, but mumble through a story. >> kara: or make up a story or name one story he told that --

>> david: the puerto rican church or the african american church and saving a cat from a tree. >> kara: 77% of adults say he is not fit to serve four more terms, 69% of democrats, say he is not fit to serve four more years. that is a big problem and shameless exploitation saying his son died in iraq. speaking from the heart, i don't want this man speaking from this particular heart. >> why don't they tell hims, it is time to hang it up. that is what i would like to hear, elderly democrat or republican, when it is your time to go, it is your time to go.

pass the torch, please not kamala. if you can't serve this role, maybe it is time to step down and let somebody else who can assume the position. >> cheryl: this group of democrats, age range 68-92. when an 92-year-old is telling an 81-year-old to stop it, that is crazy. 10 of the 15 interviewed said they would prefer he step aside in 2024 and say that basically it is electability they are concerned about. democrats are speaking. they are saying it is how he is presenting, raise your voice, project more and not do the whisper at the podium. >> julie: many democratic voters spoke about the optics of being the nation's oldest president. so many people look cognitive

ability, that is just what happened and 85-year-olds being nimble and able to project strength is not going to be easy and youngest in the group god candid about mortality, he is old like we all are, something could happen. the oldest in the group 92-year-old said have somebody else like schwarzenegger saying he's in great shape. he doesn't look good. >> cheryl: that is what everybody sees, julie and his polls are in the tank. he's under water in every poll as far as his job performance. >> julie: to be fair, president trump also bragged about how he was in good health, when his physical would come out, people criticize him. but he didn't look frail. sometimes he truly does seem

lost in the clouds when speaking and one 81-year-old is not same as the next, it is by person. we are not age shaming. >> david: it is a fluff piece, where is the policy advice, any in this article talking about policy? they are not. they are giving advice that says don't whisper, speak from the heart, you can say that to any candidate. where is the policy? >> cheryl: several want to see somebody else, this group supported elizabeth warren in 2018 election cycle. others said bernie sanders, there were other options, not that bernie sanders is a spring chicken. you know what, bernie sanders, love him or hate him, he's cut a

few zingers every once in a while. >> julie: talking about someone experiencing cognitive decline, one heartbeat away is kamala harris and that is frightening. >> it is frightening and that is why he selected her, because she is that bad that even with his cognitive decline and horrible job he's doing, he looks like a better option than kamala harris, he keeps himself in a good spot with that, that was smart and thinking ahead. >> david: word sa salad, that i our choice. >> she is good with the english dictionary. analysis revealing half of immigrant households in this country are benefiting from government programs at the

expense of you, the american taxpayer.

>> cheryl: tidal wave of migrants flooding into the country is not slowing down. 276,000 migrants entering this month alone. taxpayer funded welfare were given to illegal immigrant households. three in five illegal immigrant homes, compare to less than 40% by native-born americans. in new york city, you know how much we spent so far? 2.4 billion in new york city on migrants. illegal migrants, tell that to taxpayers suffering. >> kara: this is insane, this is not just opening our arms to

people seeking asylum, no, it is taking advantage of us at the expense of the american taxpayer. they crowd out emergency rooms. this is a big problem, it is a choice, hr 2 passed in the house penalizes visa overstays and stop says welcome and release. there is no political will in the d.c. area to do it. it is a shame. >> cheryl: welfare fraud is nothing new in any major city in this nation, it's been going on for decades. this is folks who have no legal right to be here. that is where the u.s. taxpayer will have to say enough. i say you get what you vote for. this is what you voted for in new york, los angeles and chicago.

>> mayors trying to get federal funding to fund illegal immigrants. how about a tax refund as a taxpayer for what my money is funding. new york claims it cost 4 billion or 26,000 each for 150,000 illegals. crossings at the border for past three years would be $260 billion in taxpayer funds. i want my refund check. >> david: i want more than my refund check. you have another migrant caravan, 8000 illegal aliens. this is a resource problem. money is biggest resource. look at education, schools don't get to ask about your legal

status, kids go to school using up resources. go to the medical system. in new york, cheaper to fly illegal aliens out of new york, including one to morocco than keep them here. $380 per day in new york city per migrant per day. adams decided it was time to ship them out, he is part of the problem. this is giant destruction of society. the illegal migrants also lose. final point, there are many, i'll stop here. in new york city, they had an office open on the lower east side to go get work permits sorted out, percentage less than

2 or 3% showed up of illegal alien population in new york city. if they are supposed to get jobs under biden. >> why get it is job when you can come live for free and get your meals paid for, who wouldn't do that. these mayors are not saying close the border, they are saying spend us more money to spend on illegal immigrants. i am not calling them migrants, they are illegal immigrants. we are importing poverty and we cannot afford it. these people are paying to criminal organizations, they save up thousands to come over or use their children as payment, pay out criminal organizations, these people are

not well off, they are impoverished and affording to pay cartels thousands to come here and be taken care of. this will not end well, it stops with closing the border, until that happens, nothing will change, they will come here and have children, as well, which will be on our tab. >> cheryl: this is why they qualify for welfare benefits here in this country, because combination of income and amount of children that you have. we were talking this morning on fox business, small businesses around hotels and shelters are shutting down. you know what happens when you lose a small business? you lose tax revenue. oops. >> tomi: and illegals are not victims, it is small owners and american taxpayers. >> david: this should bring up the point for candidates, birth right citizenship needs to be

challenged. we're one of the few countries in the world, this is not an american thing, antiillegal thing, we are one of the few countries worldwide that have birth right should thesship. >> cheryl: it is we can't afford it issue. so long diversity, equity and inclusion, companies are scaling back on the movement.

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indeed, dei job listings saw a 44% drop from 2022 to 2023. david webb, you have had experience with dei initiative in corporate america. >> david: dei official walks into my office and tells me, i will show you how to get along with everybody you work with. i said, now you are telling the black man what to do? use the color again. dei, where it goes wrong, it exists. >> cheryl: tech companies are like, enough, make profit and dei is not working. great idea on paper, not good in. >> kara: when i worked at meta, everyday we were so aware programmers and software

engineers kept our lights on and we as counter terrorism people were always on the hook. the fact dei programs, too little too late. >> cheryl: i've said repeatedly, i don't like companies getting into politics. i don't like the woke movement. to ceos, you don't have to weigh in, you don't have to make a department on dei, make it easy and hire the best candidate. >> this is the snake eating its own tail, hollywood trying to have different stairn standard of diversity. disney puts out flop after flop after flop. instead of best person for the job, this is the snake eating

its own tail. whatever color you are, you should get the job based on your performance and ability. if you have somebody, this was designed to correct a problem, now you overcorrected and have people unemployed because they were hired to fix a problem that did not exist in the first place. >> cheryl: julie, she brings up disney, did not work out for the now ousted ceo of disney. they had to bring bob iger back. in florida, that burned them, box office, it burned them. >> political correctness and woke is not a good business plan. look at harvard university, the president just started in july and look how much she has

screwed up. now she's accused of plagiarism, god forbid you fire her because she is a black woman, she has threatened to sue. this spills over in the college community, i blame her for protests that continue at harvard university. >> cheryl: i hope i am qualified to read this tease, we're going to take a break. but more "outnumbered" in a moment.

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>> last but not least, only a couple of days left in 2023, and there's a new study by wallet hub that finds the top u.s. cities for celebrating new year's eve.

number one, orlando, florida. san diego 2, and new york city falls to number 3. and 4th place, las vegas, that is right, they are prepping for what could be a new year's eve wedding record. this year is a so-called specialty date, who knew, december 31, 2023, was written out -- when you repeat it, it's 123123 pattern, is that supposed to be good luck? i don't understand why people buy into the stuff. >> it's a sesame street day, that's all it is. >> that's a reason to get married. >> and all about the content, really, at the end of the day. i'm surprised that miami, florida is not on that list. >> i was going to say, i'll be partying in florida. >> orlando, florida does not compete with miami. miami is the place to be, i'm sure. if you like -- >> disney, if you want to be near disney world. sounds like hell on new year's eve. >> who wants to be here is the

best question, probably going to be a protest erupting, they ruin everything that has been holiday festivities with the pro-palestinian protesting. who would want to be in new york, you might get mugged, don't know what you are caught in the cross hairs of, i'm with you, david. let's go to miami, nashville, tennessee is a great spot, country music stars are throwing a bash in nashville, so many better places to be where the rule of law still matters. >> i'm going to be here in new york city asleep with my cat. >> sounds lovely. >> that's what i'm doing. >> that sounded like a singles app. >> believe me. >> she's single and she has a cat. >> no, alone on new year's. >> no, i'll -- please, yeah. call the girl out. no interest. >> do you really want to sit in times square for four hours, literally wearing diapers to get through it because you cannot get out once you get in, that's the reality of times square. back in the day we went to times square, it was open, things have

changed. now, i'll stick with miami. i'll be in boca. >> i'm -- in one minute i am on the road back to virginia, i'm out of here and going to sleep, hopefully not with my 1-year-old baby, don't have a cat, my husband will be there, happy new year to us. >> tomi wins, she's partying with stars in nashville. >> i'll be home, if you have not made your way to nashville, i highly recommend it. >> it is all the rage these days. >> red neck, there you go. >> julie. >> i am going to be home hosting a party, that's what i do, i like to spend it with my kids, i stay home and invite the drinks to me, the people. >> good plan. >> it is. i do it every single year. >> i know where you are going to be, i won't be there. >> thank you to everyone, don't forget to dvr the show. here is "america reports." >> f