>> anita: the chaos at our southern border continuing into the new year. customs and border protection sources revealing to fox news a staggering new record number of migrants entering our country in just the month of december. at the same time, a massive migrant caravan is marching its way through mexico. welcome back, everyone, to a special edition of "fox news live." i'm" i'm anita vogel in los angeles. great to be with you and happy new year. >> rich: i'm rich edson in new york. border officials say they encountered a new record of 302,000 migrants in december, and more than double that since october 1st. the unprecedented figures have some democratic lawmakers pushing president biden to address this crisis. >> as long as people are coming to the border and they are hitting a speed bump and they are being released and waiting for, five, six years for an adjudication, they're going to

keep coming. if we don't address that by addressing detention, giving them the quick hearing and then deporting, most of them are going to be deported because asylum cases, if you look at the last 25 years, 87% are going to be rejected. so irb allowing 100% when we ought to be looking at smaller points? >> rich: let's get more with former director and federal prosecutor jonathan fahey. if you look at what's going on and what congress is negotiating here, what happens from here? do you think there's much congress can do to address this? >> i really don't, because the core problem as i see it is the administration's lack of will or desire whatsoever to enforce the existing law. congressman cuellar is right, they are encouraging people to

come here with the pull factor. even when they do get these asylum hearings six, seven, eight, nine years down the road, if we have an administration similar to this administration, they're not going to be deported. the stated policy is they only deport the most serious criminals that have to be convicted. so people are not getting asylum are not showing up for hearings, or otherwise are not even being deported. i think there's over a million people who have orders of deportation and this administration is doing nothing to deport them. people know once they get here, assuming political winds do not change in this country, they are staying here and in effect they are treated as good or better than citizens in many cases. >> rich: what does 2024 look like?

>> i think it would be the same order, in fact, worse. at 300,000 number doesn't even count the got-oas, that could be 60,000 or 70,000 a month. when people are looking at this, they know once they get here, they get to stay, they also know that there's an election coming up and things might change. so i think the incentive is going to be tremendous for this year for people to come here, and the cartels know it, the human smugglers know it. this administration isn't planning to do anything about it. there's plenty they can do, but they are unwilling to buck their party on this issue. they are going to remain and they will make a political issue and say they're trying to do something about it with comprehensive immigration. and that comes down to amnesty when -- >> rich: thousands this month

alone who have basically surrender themselves, they walk up and apply for asylum. is the american law enforcement tracking some people who get here? how open is this? >> this administration has been quite clear, being here illegally is not a basis to be removed. the only scenario they would be removed is if they are convicted of a serious felony or somehow found to be a national security threat, which is going to be rare. those who evade any sort of reporting or anything really are going to live here as long as they want, assuming the

political situation is the same, and nobody's looking for them, and they are not even -- it is so extreme, the democrats position, they don't even want to deport criminals. we have the sanctuary cities, this administration could do something to crack down on that. they don't even address it or say anything negatively about it. so people that are here are going to stay with this political environment. >> rich: jonathan fahey, the former i.c.e. director, thanks so much. anita? >> anita: rich, also with us, charles moreno, former homeland security advisor and sentinel securities solutions ceo. thank you so much for joining us today. great to have you here. i wonder if you are able to hear in the last segment the comments from congressman cuellar talking about that pull factor and how 87% of the people coming into the country illegally are not seeking asylum. what are your thoughts on that? that's with the administration

is telling people, that all these people are coming here to seek asylum. >> the administration has unilaterally expanded the legal pathways into the country for things under asylum like fleeing from poverty. that's not one of the criteria that meets the justifications to be allowed into the country, but the administration has stated very clearly from the beginning that they are for expanding all the legal pathways. essentially standing down, and forcing the federal laws when it comes to our border security and immigration. the numbers are staggering. the administration is deporting, turning around, essentially, the encounters at the southwest border. only 5%. these numbers are very low. everybody is being allowed to come in. we have abandoned determineds in this country while he have increased entitlements through the protections of century cities, things like offering

free health care, which it governor newsom just announced. so all of these things and the policies of the administration serve as the pull factors. so this will not slow down anytime soon. because of that, the risk against the country continues to climb. >> anita: it seems these policies are not popular with the american people. let's take a look at this poll on how people view president biden's border policy. with take a look. only 33% approve. 63% disapprove. so it's not a popular policy, and we hear from the administration of the policy is working great. let's hear from a couple of people. the vice president, and others, about what they think about this policy. >> i want to be very clear, our borders are not open. >> the border is secure. >> the president has done more to secure the border and deal with this issue of immigration

than anybody else. >> anita: thoughts on that? >> well, to say the border is secure and the country is being protected in the way it should is a psalm in the eye to the american people. yes, the i the american people e seeing the impact of this, whether it be on local infrastructure that can't support the surge of migrants to their communities, increases in crime, and you don't need to be homeland security expert to understand that we are letting a lot of people into this country that should not be here and do not have our best interest at heart. the biden administration, why are they not changing course? my assumption is this. i don't think they think the american people are going to hold them accountable come 2024. that's a very dangerous place to be. that means they are betting on the fact that they don't think people will turn to the republican or two independents to solve these problems. that they will stick with what we've got. i'll tell you, if we have another four years of what we are seeing now, it's going to be

very hard to get the country back to a safe place that it needs to be. we will be really behind the eight ball. >> anita: to your point, poll after poll shows this immigration crisis at the border is a very important issue for americans. it always comes number one, two, or three in terms of issues in these polls. do you expect the biden administration to do anything differently in 2024? or are they going to ride this out until election day? >> they will write it out, which is why i have no confidence anything significant will come of the meeting down in mexico with the secretary of homeland security and with president obrador of mexico. this was a meeting to manage the optics. mexico does not like when trade gets interrupted, so this is coming down to money. they did not want to see the ports of entry is being shut down to impact legal trade coming from mexico into the united states. that is what that meeting was

about. but for the biden administration to come and reimplement policies like remain in mexico, title 42, start enforcing the law, it would be then admitting in an election year that they were wrong in the first place, which we knew they were when they stood down all of these policies with no strategy to replace it. >> anita: in the meantime you have illegal migrants coming over the border and given court dates of six, seven, eight years down the road. so i'm not sure how they think that's going to get handled, that we will wait legal latency. charles marino, thank you so much for coming in today and for your insight there. >> okay, i need to. happy new year >> anita: coming up, why a top democrats in supreme court justice clarence thomas needs to recuse himself from the ballot. cases involving former president trump. that's coming up next. >> i see it as a political vendetta. i think they are worried about

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>> anita: welcome back. we are expecting the trump legal team to file appeals tomorrow of colorado and maine's unprecedented decisions to kick the former president off their primary ballots. the colorado g.o.p. has already appealed to the supreme court and democrat jamie raskin of the house judiciary committee says supreme court justice clarence thomas should recuse himself from cases involving the former president because of his wife's political activities. >> i think anybody looking at this in any kind of dispassionate and reasonable way would say, if your wife was involved in the big lie, claiming that donald trump had actually won the presidential election and had been agitating for that and participating in the events leading up to januart be participating. >> so he should recuse himself? >> he absolutely should recuse himself. the question is, what do they do if he doesn't recuse himself? >> anita: former deputy

assistant attorney general john yoo once clericced for justice thomas, and he will join us and just moments. first, david spunt reports live from washington all of this. happy new year. >> he's putting the last minute touches on their argument, expected to file that appeal with the supreme court tomorrow. his legal team will formally appealed to the nine justices on the court after colorado dumped him from the ballot. how the justices will decide, we have to wait and see. but as of now there are no recusal's, including the three appointed trump justices, and according to the report from "the new york times," mr. trump has expressed concern that the conservative justices will worry about being perceived as "political" and may rule against him. the supreme court will have to wait if the insurrection clause in the constitution disqualifies former president trump for running for hazel hot from running for his old

office. >> i just urge them to do it quickly. i certify the names of who is on the ballot next friday for the presidential primary. >> the clock is ticking. in colorado, the state supreme court kicked trump off the ballot, but not in maine. the decision was made by this woman, the secretary of state, who said she has received personal threats and a fake phone call that prompted police to make a large response at her home, something known as s.w.a.t.ing. swatting the home of an elected official who is doing their job is unacceptable. what my staff, my team have experienced, what they experienced all day yesterday was a constant onslaught of certain communications. that has to stop. >> police are investigating. there are about a dozen states of lawsuits aiming to remove donald trump from the ballot.

no indication yet which state will be next to zero the former president off the ballot, if another state does it at all. we will follow. anita? >> anita: we are expecting that filing from the trump legal team on tuesday, so we will certainly be targ following tha. thank you so much, david. rich? >> rich: let's bring in john yoo, a law professor at uc berkeley, former deputy assistant attorney general, and the former law clerk for supreme court justice clarence thomas between 1994-1995. thank you for joining us today. i want to get to that issue of justice thomas here. what do you think the line should be for recusal? democrat, republican, a spouse is openly supported a political candidate. >> happy new year to you and everybody. first, no one has shown that justice thomas has ever had a conflict of interest, and that means sitting on a case where you have some kind of interest.

there have been 30 years of attacks on justice thomas from the day he was nominated to the supreme court, to today. it is part of this left-wing attack on the court itself. this is the left that tried to pack the court, that welcomed the leaking of the dobbs abortion case. it led to protests in front of justices' houses, that led to an assassination attempt, and all these ethics complaints and investigations of the supreme court justices. not one has shown that justice thomas ever sat on any case where he had a personal interest. certainly, to your direct question, there's never been anything about his wife's career. the one we've got some audio problems. anita, if you look at what's going on right here, it's a really tough time for the court. you've got the former president, he is appointed a third of this court. the questions and concerns over justice thomas, but on top of all of that you have these cases

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>> anita: israel's war on hamas entering a new targeted phase in gaza as the country's prime minister warns they will be there for at least six more months. correspondent trey yingst has the very latest from tel aviv. hi, trey. >> it was an active new year in the middle east, just moments after the truck, clock struck midnight, hamas fired a rocket barrage toward tel aviv. also, just hours before that, we understand demonstrations erupted in this city calling for the head of israel's mossad

intelligence agency to cut a deal to release the remaining hostages still inside gaza. at state 87 of the war between israel and hamas and there's no diplomatic diplomatic end in sight. >> this is the new year. everyone is supposed to be happy, but we are not happy. we cannot be happy, because our beloved are somewhere under the ground in the gaza strip, and we want them home today. >> the calls for a deal come as hamas told regional media they won't release any remaining hostages until all the fighting ends, that fused battles are ongoing today, specifically around the second largest city. it comes as the israelis say they will withdraw some reservists in a move they say will prepare the country for a prolonged war. overnight israel launched air strikes targeting positions in central gaza and officials say a company commander who participated in the october 7th massacre was killed during the

recent operations. there are new concerns today not just about the factions inside gaza, including hamas and islamic jihad, but also other rubes like hezbollah in southern lebanon that launched new rockets into northern israel sending thousands of people to bomb shelters. anita? >> anita: despite all of that, despite the activity along the border, there are reports that in the new year some of the reservists will be sent home to reenter civilian life in israel. what are you hearing about that? >> absolutely. there is real concern in israel that gaza is just the first chapter in a very difficult book to head for 24. their forces will have to shift more, and while tens of thousands of israelis have been moved from the border with lebanon, others remain in

northern israel, some unable to return to their homes, and people are simply waiting for a solution. israeli officials over the past several weeks have shifted their tone a little bit and they've been very clear about what comes next. they say they will either be a diplomatic solution to push fighters back from the northern border between israel and lebanon or they will be a military solution. they are leaving that up to the iran backed militia group. in the coming weeks we will get clarity on what comes next, and if israel will take preemptive action against hezbollah. >> we will wait and see what the new year brings. trey yingst, thank you for your great work there, and happy new year to you. >> thank you. >> anita: let's bring in aaron cohen, an israeli special ops veteran and founder of specializing in counterterrorism training for law enforcement. good to have you today. happy new year to you. we understand that israel is

planning to partially withdraw forces from gaza in the coming months. as the war is entering a new phase, as you heard in the last segment, what more can you tell us about that? >> the reservists are going to start to get scaled down. the reason why is because israel has a 360-degree perimeter around gaza. they will do some major sterilizing both in the north and the south and the southern region. they have done an incredible job of taking down essentially 7,000 to 10,000 terrorists in the last 85 plus days, so israel is looking at its manpower, scaling back the reservists that aren't going to be needed right now, focusing on special operations units. it's got a commando battalion made up of several units. these are units that really specialize in getting into the nooks and crannies. at the dog unit, so they are pulling back on the air operations and the joint terminal attack operations which

put those missiles selectively into those structures. now they are focusing on digging in for the long term. as a prime minister said, it could be up to six months or longer. putting barrels inside structures, reducing risk to civilians, and at this point right now they are in a hit-and-run situation with hamas where they are popping out of tunnels, two or three at a time, reducing risk and potential hostages that may pop up. cycling at some of the reservists and snows focusing on limiting penetration, room-clearing. it's very safe, it's brilliant. looking at the big picture, lebanon, as trey mentioned, there's 150,000 fighters up there. with medium and long-range missiles. they have to start to look at the big picture and the macro optic. >> anita: there is also been talk about the reoccupation of gaza. netanyahu says that's not going to happen. let's hear from john kirby of the national security council to see what he has to say about

that. >> we won't believe the reoccupation of gaza is the right thing to do for the israelis or for the people of gaza. quite frankly, for the region. he's been very clear, we don't support any reoccupation of gaza. what we do support is some sort of post-conflict governance that meets the aspirations of the palestinian people, and we believe a reformed and revamped authority is probably the best way to get at that. >> anita: i imagine this is some months down the line now, what he's talking about. but what are your thoughts on that? >> there is an expression in arabic. [speaking arabic] which means, "do you want the truth, or do you want his brother?" that's about understanding the mindset of the middle east. here's where i'm at with this. hamas has been in control since it was formed in '87, and in

2005. a good majority of the palestinians really believe in hamas. they support hamas. it's in the west bank, in gaza. so there is an education system that is really affecting the dna of the palestinian people. one of the things that prime minister netanyahu has been very firm about is trying to figure out how to deradicalize the population. you can get a secular government and put them into power, but the problem is the palestinians fundamentally support what happened on october 7th. they support what hamas is doing right now. so as far as a long-term security operation, israel doesn't want to be in there anymore than they want to be in lebanon or any other country. they didn't start this war. but i think there is some larger bigger macro conversations that need to happen in terms of the leadership, the long-term picture here. how do they really start to reeducate the palestinian people so that israel can get in there and turn gaza into the singapore it was always destined to be? it's about putting a new leadership but also reeducating

the palestinian people and teaching them something other than hamas, and supporting extreme islamic jihad. that's tricky. it's going to be tough. it's tough on the white house and it's tough on bibi trade we saw this in '73 with gold in my ear. israel was almost wiped off the map it's a difficult situation. it's about to militarizing gaza at this point. >> anita: it's more than a little bit complicated. there's so many issues going on there. on this, when netanyahu says this is going to go on for at least six months or more, are you worried about losing public sentiment? people tend to get m war weary, and are still hostages being held. so there is a lot of work to do, but what about the public sentiment? a quick answer here, if you can. >> it's the same concern with the americans being in afghanistan. the longer israel has suspended

gaza, people are going to start to get annoyed, and they're going to start to look at israel like it is putting too much heat and it's taking too long. everyone wants a quick solution. but there's no quick way here, this is long-term maintenance, taking up that leadership, reeducating the palestinians, and just being honest about the situation. you have to clean this whole thing up. in order for her to be done quickly, it's got to be done the right way. >> anita: aaron cohen, thank you for your thoughts today and happy new year to you. we will see soon. >> rich: well, anita, another celebrity using their voice to advocate for the victims of hamas' brutality. "friends" costar david schwimmer taking to instagram to call out assault. "why do so many refuse to believe, despite all the evidence on camera and in testimony, the women, children, and men brutally assaulted by terrorists on october 7th? where is their outrage? in the weeks and months that

followed, it became clear their activism and advocacy is conditional. they will fight like hell for all victims of sexual violence, unless they are jews." let's bring in the coauthor of "still in use." david schwimmer references a specific article from "the new york times" entitled "screams without words: how hamas weaponized sexual violence on october 7th." what happened, and why aren't more people talking about it? >> the brutality they "new york times" were able to document over the course of months of research is really horrifying, and i think anyone who has gotten a big picture view of what hamas did on october 7th, even those folks are going to be shocked by the level of brutality that was documented by "the new york times." things that honestly we can't really talk about on television. i really urge all of your viewers to go read "the new york times" piece. that is not something i say very

often. but "the new york times" did a really important thing here and it is important that everyone read it, both left and right. this was a lot of good research done, real journalism we don't often see from "the new york times." but schwimmer is right. what's really disturbing is, in the face of all of that, they're still so many deniers. these were holocaust deniers, modern day holocaust deniers. he rightly says, all those folks who say "believe all women," that they are for women's rights, talking about sexual violence against women for the last 20-30 years, where are they? the vast majority of them are silent, and that goes from regular celebrities up to the u.n. >> rich: is david schwimmer alone here? have other actors joined him? do you think other actors will join him? >> there is honestly not that many who have come out and said something. debra messing has been

fantastic. another one is jenny mollen, jason bigs' husband. she's fantastic. there then wonderful bright lights. jerry seinfeld and his wife, jessica, have been fantastic. they are few and far between. mayim bialik, another one. but all of them are jewish. there have been no nonjewish celebrities who have come out and said believe all women even if they are jews. >> rich: you have to look at the context in the history, but why's it so difficult to look at such brutality and just call it up for what it is? >> anita: i would like to know what the appropriate context is for the brutal sexual assault of children and elderly women, and young women at a music festival. there is no context for that. what they are saying is it is okay to do this.

by saying it is acceptable and it's okay to ask for context in certain circumstances, they are saying under some circumstances it is okay to brutally rape and kill women as long as they are jewish. that is textbook anti-semitism and deeply disturbing. it is something that all these keyboard warriors should have been talking about for the last two months, but they've been sort of sitting back on their heels because apparently, when it's a brutal terror attack against jews, we have to wait and see. >> rich: bethany mandel, things are joining us this afternoon. very much appreciated. the new trend taking off among employees who feel they are not being paid for their work, and white experts warn acting your wage could be dangerous for employees. that's coming up next. ♪ ♪

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>> anita: democratic pennsylvania senator john fetterman opening up about his struggles with mental health, saying social media only made things worse. >> i was able to keep myself in

check, but the election was november 8th. after the election was when things accelerated and got worse. at that point i wasn't able to leave bed. it's an accelerant, absolutely. i would warn anybody that social media -- i've never noticed anyone to believe that their mental health has been supported by spending any kind of time on social media. >> anita: fetterman spent over a month at walter reed hospital for clinical depression at the beginning of 2023 and was discharged at the end of march. >> rich: you may have heard of workers quiet quitting or taking part in bare minimum mondays. now a new trend is taking off called "act your wage," where employees only put in the amount

of effort they are paid for. but many say putting in less effort will leave many workers behind. let's bring in brandon arnold, thanks for joining us this afternoon. what about this concept? they all seem like the same thing. "you're not paying me enough, you want me to spend my whole life working, forget about it." what do you say to that? >> i think it's this lackadaisical approach to working that is fundamentally un-american. we have had a work ethic in this country or people take pride in their work, they work hard, try to climb the company ladder to get as much in the way of a salary or wages as they possibly can, and this is going against this trend. i don't know what the heck some of these folks are thinking, that if they want to succeed in life, if they want to succeed in their roles, they actually have to put in the effort, not just show up, clocking, and clock out, but roll up your sleeves and get to work. it's a cultural problem, a public policy problem, and i really think it's a problem for

this country at large. >> anita: it all seemed to start right around the time of the pandemic, and then escalated during the pandemic. people just didn't want to go to work. they wanted to stay home and going back to it was almost too much to ask. i guess things are slowly getting better, but i want to take a listen to the ceo of wayfair. he had a message for his employees. let's listen to what he had to say. okay, i'll read this. he said "working long hours, being responsive, blending work and life is not anything to shy away from. it is not a lot of history of laziness being rewarded with success." "hard work is an essential ingredient in any recipe for success. i embrace this, and the most successful people i know do, as well." is that ringing a bell with anybody in the workforce today?

>> absolutely. i think it all began with the pandemic when we had these lavish benefits, trillions of dollars of benefits, and we divorced these government benefits from the notion that you actually had to work. that was the case with the enhanced on employment benefits, child tax credit, and other programs. we send a message to folks saying that we are going to provide all these benefits to you, all of this cash, whether you work or you don't. a lot of people said after the pandemic passed, that's fine, i'm going to get back to work, but unfortunately seen too many people sitting out on the sidelines right now. that's why our labor participation rate is far lower than it was before the pandemic, and it's why some people that have gone back to work are taking this lackadaisical approach where they feel like they don't actually need to put in effort, that somehow their laziness is going to be rew rewarded. it's a real big problem. >> rich: post-pandemic we had this environment where companies needed good workers.

they were paying well, agreeing to work from home and arrangements. do you think companies are getting more leverage and can tell workers working there wage that they can go work there wage somewhere else? >> i think these people ought to be reading the same articles you are, because that's absolutely the case right now. we continue to see some job growth but that's been limited to a few distinct sectors. health care, education, travel and leisure, those of seen job increases. outside those sectors we have started to see jobs start to fall. if that continues to happen -- of course, we don't want it to -- but if that continues to happen, these employees that employers have been begging to come and work for them all of a sudden are going to see a lot less power. their power is going to erode and this lackadaisical approach they are taking at their office or place of business is not going to be tolerated. they're going to find themselves

out on their behinds unemployed. that's the lesson they need to learn and i think in some instances they will have to learn the hard way, if they don't work hard, they're not going to have a job. >> anita: thank you so much for your thoughts today on that. we'll see what happens with the workforce ahead. still ahead for us on "fox news live," former president bill clinton reportedly said to be unmasked in this in court documents related to convicted pedophile jeffrey epstein. a report on what we might learn, next. ♪ ♪

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