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a mess might be an understatement as we've been reporting on the story for multiple years. crossings have slowed dramatically for the start of new year, and it has been fairly quiet this morning here in eagle pass where we are stationed. yesterday, let's show you some video, we witnessed two large groups, one in the morning and one more mid afternoon. about 200 in size and the other one was about 250 in size. some illegally crossed the river and turned themselves over to border patrol agents. this, as the state of texas continues to assist doing what it can out here on the front lines through operation lonestar and that has led to a busy week in terms of legal maneuvering. the department of justice filed a lawsuit against the state and governor greg abbott trying to stop a newly signed state law known as senate bill 4 from taking effect in march. that would give in part police the authority to arrest those suspected of being in the

country illegally. it would also allow state judges to deport people, give them deportation authority. the doj suit calls this unconstitutional, saying that sb-4 would infringe upon and enact and enforce immigration laws. governor abbott said it's necessary to protect texens from biden's dangerous open border policies which he alleges led to a record number of migrant encounters, just last month more than 302,000 encountriers were logged for the first time in history across the entire southern border in one month's time. this past week, mayor eric adams filed a different lawsuit against a dozen charter bus companies, 17, in fact, for transporting migrants from texas to places like the big apple arguing it violates new

york law transferring needy persons across state lines. more than 35,000 migrants have been bused to new york and seeks damages and governor adams calls that lawsuit baseless, every migrant out of texas or chicago, sanctuary cities, did so voluntarily. finally this morning, homeland security secretary mayorkas will make another trip to eagle pass what is called an operational visit and meeting with officials and coming out to the border itself, although we understand at this point it will not be open to the press. neil. neil: casey, i think you've got that permanent job assignment down. it's amazing. thank you very much, my friend. happy new year to you. >> thanks, neil. neil: casey stegall in eagle pass. and right now in wilmington,

delaware, lucas, whenever i can, a good student of history and right now the back and forth, not only with the border, but the january 6th stuff, but more on the border stuff, lucas, what intrigues me is the push by republicans to go after the homeland secretary mayorkas and move to impeach him. that's a tough juggling act for the president. what's going on? >> that's right, neil, cabinet official hasn't been impeached in it country in nearly 150 years. now, president biden spent the bulk of his address outside of valley forge focused on donald trump mentioning the former president 44 times. absent from the address any mention of the president's record and critics say that includes the crisis, what they're calling a crisis on the southern border something that the president biden's dhs chief refused to utter in a recent interview with our own bret baier. >> but you do think it's a crisis now? >> bret, it is a challenge.

>> it ebbs and flows at a time of the year where we're seeing more at the border and it's not unu unusual. >> now, the numbers from the southern border tell a very different story, neil. it appears very unusual, this is a list of the past migrant encounters over the past 10 dec december's provided by border patrol. in the valley forge speech, i spoke to pennsylvania's senator john fetterman who did not hesitate to call it a crisis. >> there's a crisis at the border and i don't know how anybody could pretend there isn't. with the latest figures from december over 200,000 people, to put that in perspective here in our state, that's more than the population of pittsburgh, and pittsburgh is our second largest city. >> it's actually over 300,000

migrant encounters on the southern border and president biden toured valley forge before giving his address and of course, that's george washington's winter encampment between 1777 through the beginning of 1778. general howell and the british forces were able to enjoy themselves that winter in philadelphia and president biden wrapped up a weekend's vacation of st. croix, the home of alexander hamilton who was present with george washington as his aide-de-camp. neil: this is what makes you an encyclopedia and general howell had his first taste of a cheese steak, you project didn't know, mr. smarty pants. kidding. people take us very serious. >> the british had a lot more food than george washington, no question. neil: they did, but, boy, they could have use add few of them. and in the meantime you heard the move and touched on it,

lucas, the idea can the governor do what he's been doing in texas, that is using law enforcement, for example, to arrest migrants and using judges in the state to deport them. they're suing, as we talk to the kenny county sheriff, good to see you. what did you make of the move on the part of the white house to sue, the texas governor more specifically, using guys like you to arrest migrants? >> good morning, neil, i think the governor's plan is workable. if the federal government won't protect our southern border it's up the governor to do it. he's drawn the line in the sand and i'm going to stand beside him. neil: this is going back and forth in the court and i don't see dealing with the root of the problem, which is the border itself. what do you think will happen? >> like you said, a legal battle back and forth and trying to deflect exactly what's going on here at the

border. the root cause, i really can't tell you. i know there's some economic issues and there's things like that around the world, but what is causing it is the fact that just before he took office he said he would have an open border come see me, here we are, you're welcome and they're taking advantage of that. neil: when you say they're taking advantage of it, one thing i don't understand, wh when they're processed and oftentimes we'll go to eagle pass and sometimes drones running live around the clock, a few hundred one day and thousands another day. i'm wondering, where do those migrants go? >> well, after they get on buses they put them on the bus and from here headed to san antonio where they're dispersed throughout the country from there. neil: no one is necessarily keeping track of them? >> no. they're given documents they're supposed to have a court date as far away as 2031, in that year period they're not going

to show up. 90% will assimilate into the country and live in the shadows. neil: when you see fights erupt even among sanctuary cities and states like new york and new jersey, right now they're having the back and forth, who is going to house them, in the end, neither wants anything to do with them. what does that make you think of the sanctuary status that the cities brag about? >> they brag about we're sanctuary city, come here and we'll take care of you. and now they don't want to deal with them, but they expect us to deal with them down here on the southern border. neil: in the meantime, you guys are swamped as it is, so this added burden and you don't look at it as a burden and you try to arrest or deal with them yourself. only so many men and women.

>> six full-time deputies and six part-time deputies and we're seeing record numbers. our pursuits last year, over 260 pursuits to my county. neil: when you say pursuit, you're chasing them, that's dangerous for all involved. >> yes, sir, one last year we were pursuing the individual in an effort to get away he started shooting at oncoming traffic and out the window with a pistol shooting at oncoming traffic. the truck he hit, she was a local school teacher and i worked with her father and her brother is one of my deputies so at that point in time this became extremely personal. neil: just amazing. sheriff, good luck handling the fight. it's a crazy fight at that and you've been thrust into it, but you handle it with, you know, with ease, but i don't know how you do it. brad coe, the kenny county texas sheriff. i want to bring you up-to-date

on news item that happened last night. a scary incident. a window blowing out on southwest-- or i'm sorry, an alaska airlines plane, it could have gotten worse, prompted a look at the safety of the 737-9 max. the boeing 737 max, we've heard a great deal about. what happened on this particular flight, let's just say it was pretty scary. a guy. and my dignity. get out of the way! as if watching my team lose wasn't punishment enough. what are you looking at huh... it's a one speed. hahaha. hahaha. and if you have cut rate car insurance, odds are you'll be paying for that yourself. so, get allstate and be better protected from mayhem... like me. hey, i'm walking here!

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737 max just off the assembly line. no less, was able to make it back to portland for an emergency landing. all the passengers and crew on board okay, scared, but okay. and out of abundance of caution, n.t.s.b., national transportation safety board is investigating the mid air scare and and in the meantime, unsettled, done, scared to put it mildly. in the meantime, the environment that is already delaying a lot of flights and canceling some others, this incredible nor'easter that was smacked much of the east coast and more than 100 million in its path, and max is at central park. >> hey, neil, 691 days since new york city measured an inch or more of snow, is this going to be the storm that breaks that streak?

we're kind of unsure right now. we might get an inch or two of snow with this storm, but this is looking to be sort of a mixed snow and rain event. we've been seeing just a few flakes flying so far, it's going to pick up as we move into the afternoon, but then the rain is going to set in around 10 p.m. or so. we talked to some folks earlier about their hopes for this storm. >> thinking it will be fun to have snow for the first time this year, especially since there's no snow last year. it doesn't feel like winter until there's snow so hopefully we'll have some snow on the ground. >> no matter what happens, new york city officials say they are prepared. according to the department of sanitation which covers snow removal they have the staff and $450 million in new trucks and every plow will be on the roads if it does snow. governor hochul says they're standing by and workers pre-positioned and stock piles

of cots and generators are ready to go to open warming shelters in community and new york state police say if you're going to travel, be careful. especially slippery in upstate new york, when we're counting on snow totals, 8 to 12 inches. if you're travelling or driving upstate you'll want a blanket, full tank of gas, a cell phone nice and charged up, food and water in case you get stuck, but probably best to stay home for today and tomorrow, neil, back to you. neil: good advice. stay safe yourself, max gordon. in the meantime, i did say that pete buttigieg, transportation secretary was commenting on this investigation of the alaska airline flight saying that the incident that requires -- and this is something offered by the transportation department, a full support of the n.t.s.b. investigation, we'll take the appropriate steps, whatever is necessary, says that the boeing 737 max 9

that the incident itself is part of the investigation. whether it goes beyond the 737 is anyone's guess, but again, this plane has been involved in different variations of it, in a number of kind of scary developments here. so, again, alaska has grounded all of them. in the meantime, abundance of caution to see what happens. so we're following that and how it was on that particular plane. also, following the markets. they had their first down week after nine weeks in a row going up, up, up away. i want you to meet the billionaire investor last week we came up with a horrible 2022, saying neil, i'm so bullish. guess what ken fisher is saying now? he's next. s a young man want to be, a cowboy or a gangster. and a gangster's out of style. i got back to my roots. we come from a long line of cowboys. my grandfather, my great-grandfather, my aunt even rode horses.

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>> all right. we are looking forward to, that's busy week next week. bret and marsha with the town halls ending with the one with former president trump. it's picking up the pace here. the markets, not necessarily following along, in fact, after nine straight up weeks, the major averages were taking it on the chin. and some say it's a bad sign going into the new year, ken fischer, the guy behind fischer investments is saying, no, no, no, why should you pay attention? fisher last time when i was

talking to him awful market year of 2022, everyone saying sell, get out of here, run, go away. he said, no, no, no, i think it's going to be a very good year for the markets and of course it was. do you think he was troubled by what he's been seeing lately? no. take a look. >> there's so many reasons that i have to be bullish for 2024. if you want, i can give awe few of them and some of them are just on historical features nobody seems to understand. >> for one, a presidential election year and typically good for the markets? >> presidential election years going back to accurate history positive 83% of all years, 11%, slightly above average. my expectation for this year is a good to great year, smaller than last year, but still a pretty nice year. neil: all right. how much of this is driven by interest rates going down or the fed driving them down? because a lot of people seem to think that's going to happen as

soon as march. where are you on this? >> obviously the reality of that is zero. the fact of the matter is you've heard me many times say that people have a thing about the fed and interest rates that's nonsensical. let's think about 2023, from the beginning of the bull market in october of 2022, the fed's hike and hike and hike and hiking and the market is going straight up the whole time. i mean, with volatility of course along the way. the fact of that is that tells you that that belief that the fed and interest rates control bull market, bear market, it's just simply false. neil: what is going to continue driving this? >> so when we have a bear market, as i like to say, we get the be-jabbers scared out of us and takes us a long time, skepticism and optimism, euphoria, that takes a long time. you go back to the history of the s&p 500 and this is a

simple point i put in my new york post column, nobody has said except for me. whenever there's a presidential term that's negative. fourth year, 2022, the fourth year always been positive. going all the way back to the depths of the great depression. 15% plus average returns, this is just a statement about we get the be-jabbers scared out of the bear market, takes a long time to get to the point where we get between optimism and euphoria. >> you know, we always talk about, ken, black swan developments people didn't see coming and maybe the october 7th war started in israel with hamas attack. you could talk 9/11, i guess, back -- there are plenty of incidents to indicate that. how much of that factors into your thinking? the irony of course, even with the israel and hamas war, oil prices are lower from where

they were then. how do you gauge and play that? >> so let's do that a and b. a first. regional wars that don't become more than regional wars have never killed the stock market. other things kill stock markets, regional wars don't. they're just not big enough the scale of global trade and global trade is so good at going around the regions one way or another, ne they don't do it. you've got to see this, in terms of hamas, israel, gaza, rippling out into broader than a regional war. at this point in time, that's pretty unlikely, and that's part of the reason why exactly as you said, from the time that tragic human event happened, the market basically went straight up. >> when people talk to you about investing, you know, with a longer term, time horizon, and i've joked with you in the past, long-term to me is now lunch tomorrow. so i had a different perspective than some of my young crew here.

so, how do you advise people, well, i missed out on this, last year i was so concerned of what happened in 2022, i want today avoid stocks now and see what happened in 2023, i didn't listen to ken and now i see this tempting market to come, what do you tell people? coming in fresh? >> so let me just say what i've said for decades, from decades ago when i was a columnist, a monthly columnist for forbes. you look at what professional forecasters think and professional forecasters are always wronger, longer and stronger. they are what-- their views today are what's priced into the market for the next year ahead already so it doesn't happen. the fact of the matter is, market always does much better or much worse. this year, professional forecasters are forecasting a 1% return to the s&p 500 in 2024. it is so easy to beat that. all of the features that i mentioned before, plus many

more are ones that lead you to a positive market. but the reality in the long-term, which is really where your question comes from, is if you aren't good at figuring out how the market wiggles around, which most people aren't, the best thing to do is to buy the market passively and sit there really for a long time because over time, capitalism works, capitalism wiggles to government stupidity and the government stupidity is pretty much everywhere and capitalism pays off. creative destruction in capitalism creates higher prices over time, it works. neil: all right. so, ken, real quickly, there are humors you're shopping your fisher investments around that you're looking to sell the company. it's out there. is it true? >> well, you know, after they ran that stupid story in the wall street journal, it was

phony and i e-mailed them promptly they didn't quite say afterward and said look, advent is not buying us nor is anyone else buying us, firm is not for sale, plain and simple. then all of these people that don't want to believe that and they must know more about what i'm going to do than i'm going to do or they think i'm a liar and i don't receive either as well into ken fisher, the fisher investments. the billionaire investor made a lot of money for a lot of folks, not selling and not too pleased with journalists who pursue or ask questions like that. you heard right there. many people know the iowa caucus is coming up and who is in support of whom and how certain governors are going in the race. you see the guy next to donald trump, he could be a very influential person, the could be a king maker and president

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>> all right. all of these busy events, including crucial support that could be pending from the teamsters boss, sean o'brien, we'll speak to him in a moment. and first to bill melugin, which could be a raucous affair in iowa. >> look, the candidates are on a full-on blitz in the state of iowa holding different events, live events, town halls, that sort of thing. trying to shore up some of the support for anybody who may be undecided there. and today is also the three-year anniversary of the january 6th capitol riots and that's something that president biden highlighted in his first campaign speech of the new year yesterday when he called donald trump a threat to democracy. take a listen. >> trump's assault on democracy isn't just part of his past,

trump is now promising a full scale campaign of revenge and retribution, his words, for some years to come. >> well, former president trump also had his own event here in iowa yesterday. he spoke to the crowd and said he watched president biden's speech, was not impressed, that he was a stuttering, stumbling mess, said that president biden has been a disaster for the country and said that if voters bring him back into office, he will start unwinding some of the damage on day number one. take a listen. >> the vote for donald trump and the caucuses is a vote to secure our border, a vote to reclaim our democracy from crooked joe biden and criminal thugs that work with him. >> meanwhile, florida governor ron desantis and former u.n. ambassador nikki haley have been going after each other more often in recent days and weeks and essentially fighting for the number two spot for donald trump in the poll and

the massive lead. haley and desantis have been all over iowa and both on fox news with town halls with bret and martha. and governor desantis in particular has really made iowa a priority for him and visited all 99 counties in the state here and neil, you interviewed him last hour and slammed the door on the idea that he would be somebody else's vp. take a listen. >> well, i can tell you, i am not going to accept that under any circumstances. you know, i'm running for president. >> really? >> because i think we need somebody that can win, and get the job done. but i would much rather do my final two years as governor, 2025 and 26 than be vice-p vice-president. >> neil, it was interesting, you also asked governor desantis would he may be consider nikki haley as his vp candidate and he slammed the door on that and highly unlikely because he doesn't feel that she's conservative enough.

back to you. neil: thank you very much. bill melugin in des moines, iowa. in the meantime, we talk about the role that support or endorsements have with ron desantis and chris sununu in new hampshire, with nikki haley. but when it comes to national type of support that could go a long way, getting the head of a major labor union backing you, that could be a game changer and sean o'brien, teamsters general president has been talking to all the major candidates now, most of them, anyway, including donald trump this past week. i picked his brain a little bit to indicate maybe has he got any early favorites. take a listen. >> we had an initial meeting where we stand on behalf of our members, but we said, you know, we want him to come to washington d.c. and meet with our rank and file round table like the other candidates and he's agreed to do that. neil: what about biden? you've been at, i believe, events with him, but not in a

political role per se. >> yes, we've reached out to the biden administration and they've yet to give us a date. we're optimistic that we'll get a date. look, this is caused a lot of chaos, this meeting, but you know, look, we have a job to do on behalf of 1.3 million members our job is to make sure that we make the best choices and we can't make choices without interviews and finding out exactly where people stand on labor issues. neil: now, you're free not to share what you and the former president had to talk about. was it friendly? >> it was cordial and friendly we're not going to support any candidate that wants to push for national right to work. we need some laws changed as results to bankruptcy reform and changes in lrb making organizing that much easier for people that choose unions. we had a frank conversation, very professional, just like

we've had with every other candidate. neil: you were talking about the national labor relations board. the only reason i ask, he can sometimes get into other areas. did he ever talk about your run-in with senator mullen and that near fight? >> yeah, everybody talks about that and that's in the past. let's just focus on picking the right person to not only lead this country, but help grow working families and help us prosper, continue to prosper. neil: i've been trying to broker a peace agreement between you two, every time you come on i always like to get an update whether you've been able to meet at that diner or come together and do something to sort of bury the hatchet? >> i tell you what, you've been very good to us, if you want to broker that deal, it's going to be iced coffee. neil: it hasn't happened yet. you got a lot of attention after that. and your support would mean a lot, cornel west, asa

hutchinson, some of those i wonder if you did so for appearance only. but you meet with everyone, what do you think? >> no, we're going to meet with everybody. the desantis campaign is the only one that hasn't been responsive to us not for any other reason that we want everybody to get a shot at the end of the day, we don't want any candidate to feel they've been slighted by the union. neil: what about robert f. kennedy, jr.? >> robert f. kennedy, jr., he came and we met in the same time frame we did the first five candidates. he's very sharp on our issues and you know, he said all the right things just like most of the candidates that came there, but at the end of the day, you know, we've got to-- we've got to -- it's going to be the toughest decision our administration is going to make this 2024 presidential race. neil: i'm sorry, i rudely jumped on you there. i think the last time that the teamsters reported a republican candidate for president was george herbert walker

bushbacher in 1988 and none since then, why is that? >> well, i think for far too long, you know, we've sided with the democrats which i'm a lifelong democrat and proud of it, but it's a different time now and different era and unfortunately people that get our endorsement in the past think they have it into perpetuity and we've got to make sure. and negotiate for a living and we want to negotiate with the candidate that's going to do the best for our members. that's what we're doing. there's no guarantee for anybody unless they come commitments and promises they're going to deliver on. neil: it's late in the game. afl-cio already committed to the president and you would not. would i read into that, you're not satisfied with the president? >> look, the president has done great work for us, he fixed 300 pension funds nationwide that were going to be insolvent and the retirement benefits for

people, and a lot of good that's been done. but we are not looking to the past, but where we're going to go in the future and look, we're going to be very open and candid in a lot of the discussions and make the best choice for our members. there's no guarantee for anybody and not disrespect to the current president of the united states. neil: anything i can do to broker the diner peace settlement let me know and let the senator know as well. >> i'm going to be back in d.c. for a while, you let me know, sir. neil: and there's an eye out there-- >> i'll even buy, i'll even pay. neil: very good. and very good having you on and that goes out to the senator. and i mean what i say on that. i would be happy to broker a settlement at an ihop? that's a home run. we have a lot more coming up from sean o'brien the teamsters general president on all of that, the push towards ev's, and you've seen everyone saying

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>> you know, road trip, it's exciting. i would tell my kids this when they were younger road trip, yeah, yeah. now of course they don't want to be with me. but a road trip in ev? as jeff flock finds out it's not all that it's hyped up to be. take a look. >> well, neil, i was in chicago for christmas visiting my daughters when someone at fox business got the bright idea that i should instead of flying home, get an electric car and drive it from chicago to new york to see how a cross high

pre pressure-- a cross-country trip to go. well, i did it. chicago to new york in an ev. according to tesla's routing 16 hours compared to a gas car 13 1/2. >> you're suppose today arrive in new york on friday, do you think you're going to make it on time? >> fingers crossed. >> off we go. our first charging start. elkhart, indiana. we traveled 112 miles and the battery was supposed to take us 219. backing up skills required to access the rear port. a half hour later we're back on the open road, charging stop number two, maumee, ohio. according to the car the battery should have taken us 205 miles, but we'd only gotten 127. we stopped for the night in elira, ohio not far from

cleveland. last night when we parked the car we had 38 miles remaining, this morning, didn't do anything overnight, 15 miles remaining. >> the tesla software routed us to the nearest super charger in sheffield, ohio. >> gosh, we could have got another 15 feet. >> stopping off in girard, ohio for our second charge of the day, at this point we've travelled 87 miles since the last charge, that's 46 miles less than anticipated. with the battery charged we headed back to the highway, three more stops to juice up the car, each time only between 58 and 69% of the mileage the car estimated. after two days and 808 miles of roads with next to no traffic we reached new york city in just under 17 hours of driving, plus charging. about an hour longer than the

car estimated, but three and a half hours longer than a gas car would have taken. >> well, neil, i'll say i loved the ride. the technology is cool once you figure it out of course and acceleration you can't beat that. that said, if you're going to take this cross-country first of all, do your homework and don't trust those range estimates or you could be by the side of the road. neil: just incredible. jeff flock, thank you very much on that. can't they do like the hybrid cars that do both, the best of both worlds? what do i know? we have a lot more coming up, including, well, how you're dealing in cold states, have you discovered with ev's, it's tough, but in one state like iowa for candidates, it can be even tougher after this. i'm jonathan lawson, here to tell you about life insurance through the colonial penn program. if you're age 50 to 85 and looking to buy life insurance on a fixed budget, remember the three p's. what are the three p's?

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>> we've gone to all 99 counties and we have taken questions from voters every single day. i show up to town halls on tv, doing one with fox. we show up to debates and we do this stuff and that's how you've got to do it to do well in the iowa caucus and proud that we are going to bring it to great fruition here shortly. neil: you didn't hear it from me, but all eyes on iowa. and next monday after monday, so, a lot at stake there. daniel littman, a political and washington correspondent. daniel, it's big deal, i don't want to minimize it, fox is pouring especially for us, dozens of dollars. and having said that for the last three republican winners of iowa, it hasn't panned out, you know, in terms of winning the whole shebang. what do we make of that and how this could move the needle, if it does?

>> you look at ted cruz in 2016. he won iowa, only one 11 states in the nomination fight. rick santorum won in 2012 and he was not able to-- he had to drop out a few months later. so it's not a sure thing and we saw nikki haley talk about how new hampshire corrects what iowa does, which is not always the case and it's never a good idea to insult the first state and the intelligence of the voters there. >> yeah, she might have stepped in it there. we don't know. let me ask you a little bit about how it is when you have someone like a donald trump who leads by so much and no candidate-- you know this better than i do, never led by this much in a state. that could put pressure on him. only delivers a 50 point win, you know what i'm saying, puts pressure on the guy so far ahead. what do you make of that? >> i think as long as he clears a bar where he's declared the

winner that night, then, even if it's by a few points, the media definitely will talk about that, but i think he wants those wins and i think what's-- and what's interesting with this campaign. after january 6th three years ago, you saw the republican leaders like mitch mcconnell, kevin mccarthy, lindsey graham said he was off the trump train. they all came back and the challengers for trump in the primary have been counting on trump's unpopularity in terms of the republican establishment hurting him, but did not count how unpopular biden was going to be so people did not think that trump would be an unelectable candidate in november. neil: quickly on president biden, what did you make of his focus on january 6th yesterday, speech near valley forge. a lot of people are saying here and now you should be talking about issues here and now bothering folks, what do you think? >> you look at the polls, democracy is one of the top

issues for both democrats and republicans for varying reasons and so, because he's facing a tough challenge with the economy and people not feeling the effects of the good economic numbers, then he has to pivot to democracy to drive up the turnout from his base. so it's not entirely unsurprising because he wants this to be not a referendum on himself and his performance, but between trump and biden. neil: got it, daniel. thank you so much, my friend. look forward to talking to you a lot more this busy campaign season. daniel littman on all that. don't forget, bret baier, martha callum and back to back to back town hall meetings with the candidates, all the candidates ending with donald trump himself. we'll be there next weekend them and everybody else for history in the making, we like to call it that because it will be big, big, big. that will do it here.

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