>> sandra: breaking a few moments ago as we top a new hour, house homeland security committee will move forward with articles of impeachment against alejandro mayorkas in the coming weeks. comes as record border crossings hit cities across the country and the white house is right now briefing, that's happening wide screen left. we will bring you the latest reaction from there as we get it. john kirby up now, karine jean-pierre will likely take back the microphone in a few moments. hello, welcome, sandra smith in new york. >> john: good to be with you on this fri-yay as shannon bream terms it. a short time from now, president biden will host with many things

up for discussion. for many leaders migrant crisis is top of mind. >> this issue will destroy new york city, destroy new york city. never in my life have i had a problem that i did not see an ending to. i don't see an ending to this. >> sandra: and now as we brought to you on the program yesterday, denver is hitting a breaking point as hospitals struggle one paid migrant medical costs that are only soaring still at this hour. fox team covering now with matt finn on the ongoing border battle brewing between texas and the federal government. but lydia hu has an update on the story out of denver where hospitals there are saying this is just too much and they are now plunging deep into the red taking on all of these migrants in their facilities. lydia. >> yeah, sandra, that's right. we spoke to the ceo of denver

health, that is the public hospital system in the city. they say they are tightening their belt. for example, delaying maintenance on the building, leaning on their donors to try to make ends meet and they are also turning away some patients who need treatment. watch here. >> our emergency room is frequently full and we have to divert patients. we could expand the care we provide there. as i said, our mental health and substance use beds of which we have 78, we don't -- it's extremely rare that we operate all of them, and so we have to either send people to other places or i think the real tragedy is they often just don't get care anywhere. >> denver health, this hospital, they treat everyone regardless of ability to pay. the hospital says about 8,000 migrants from central and south america have made roughly 20,000 hospital visits. and that has added about $15 million to the hospital's

uncompensated care. those, sandra, are services for which the hospital will not be paid. and denver is not alone. cook county health in chicago reportedly sees 1 million healthcare visits in a year, and it recorded additional 81,000 hospital visits, and more than 170,000 migrants have passed through the new york city system, footing a growing bill, spending estimated $592 million on migrant services from july through october of last year. mayors of denver, chicago and new york city and new york governor hochul have all called on the federal government for more taxpayers dollars to help. back to you, sandra. >> sandra: really something. she said very clearly there, even in their emergency rooms they are having to divert patients coming in who need care, that is a huge deal, lydia, thank you. john. >> john: now the burden falling

on taxpayers again. as the effects of illegal immigration continue to reverberate across the country, texas continues to ramp up its efforts to secure the border where the federal government has not. hundreds more yards of fencing and razor wire in a park currently under dispute with the biden administration. matt is live in eagle pass, texas. is texas the state demonstrating it can do a better job on the border than the biden administration? >> yeah, john, we are witnessing a remarkable change in procedure here inside shelby park. our cameras have been in the park for years showing you on how any given day, migrants can be processed by border patrol and released to the united states. we have not seen a single large group approach this razor wire or try to get through it. the fortifying seems to be

working. and texas state troopers are arresting anybody who crosses over this razor wire. texas dps tells me the migrants it does arrest will be charged with criminal trespassing, taken to a state processing facility, held in a prison, and will stand before a magistrate. ultimately the migrants will be turned over to ice, who will determine whether to deport or not. also today, the texas national guard is scheduled to install hundreds of additional yards of fencing and razor wire to bolster the border even more. the biden administration is suing texas for access to the park and remove the razor wire as it seems fit. we talked to a democratic candidate for commissioner, yolanda tells us she gives vice president harris a negative 30 failing grade as border czar and

says people are grateful to the republican governor for what he's done seizing this park. >> he's helping a lot more than anybody has here, you know. again, i know that's a controversial issue here, because i know a lot of people don't want to hear that. but if you live here, you are here in the community, definitely. thank you. >> so you may have heard the airboats going by. right now, the texas national guard is allowing u.s. border patrol boats on to the river. they are not allowing u.s. border patrol agents here into this park. they do not want the biden administration interfering with their deterrence and their mission here in this park, john. >> john: and the standoff continues. matt finn in eagle pass. thank you so much. when matt was talking to the mayor, she gave the president a minus 30 rating, and thinking out of what? >> sandra: john, incredibly compelling moment yesterday in

the hearing where mayorkas was a no-show, a mother slammed him for her daughter's fentanyl poisoning. >> in my humble opinion, mr. mayorkas' border policy is partially responsible for my daughter's death. arizona is the fentanyl superhighway into the united states. my family is broken. my heart is broken. >> sandra: pretty hard to listen to but he was not there to hear that. >> john: that was just gut wrenching and we talked to jared moskowitz, who used to be ron desantis emergency management director, not too long ago, and he said he thought that mayorkas should have shown up at that hearing, so here you have a democrat who is often at odds with republicans, but also knows how to work with them, saying mayorkas should have been there to listen to that testimony. >> sandra: if you can defend your policies, why wouldn't you. now this.

>> sandra: so, dozens of protestors rallying against a moms for liberty town hall here in new york city last night. controversial parental rights group addressing the state of education in the nation's largest school district. but rather than a thoughtful discussion, the events marked those protests. our next guest was moderating the town hall and joins us now. tiffany justice is here, co-founder of moms for liberty. what happened last night? >> even walking into the town hall it was mind blowing. i tried to have a conversation, invited them to hear what's happening in new york city public schools, only a quarter of kids are reading on grade level and they did not want to come up and then i saw a tweet later in the night someone was saying anything they are talking about in there, we don't want to hear about, and that's the

truth. the system in new york is failing to teach kids how to read and nobody out there, including the manhattan borough president wanted to hear about it. >> what is it that they are so against, moms wanting to talk about the future of children? >> i think they are against us telling the truth, that the public education system in america is failing kids. so in new york, spend $40,000 per student. 25 kids in the class, it's a million dollars. a million dollars per classroom is being spent and only a quarter of kids are learning how to read. 11% of black children learning how to read. sdaz and they pass them through the system, lowering the bar, some high school graduates are not reading at third grade level. look at the report cards, look at them all over the country. this is the town hall, i believe, ainsley was at the town hall and some of what we heard. listen here. >> i'm here so see what moms for liberty is about, and anything

that has to do with protecting our children. >> parents in new york city has been disenfranchise, never had a seat at the table. >> worried about parental rights taken away. >> people showed up because they care and see what's happening here. >> we had two members of the community education security council, like the new york city school board they came out and talked about the concerns that they have, some of the things they hoped that the city would do to improve education. i am going on joy reed tonight on msnbc. >> sandra: wait, what? stop the presses. >> i said i would debate randi weingarten and joy say she would moderate, i said i'm in. the truth is randi does not care about the education of our kids and she's not going to show up but i'll be there, and talk about the american education system spent over $800 billion and the kids are not doing well. >> sandra: brutal reality for so

many and so many of these parents who felt their hands were tied to get their kids in school during the pandemic and she was in the driver's seat of a lot of those decisions. "new york post" op-ed, why are elected officials threatened by a parent town hall with these protests last night, nonchalant when radicals are calling for the genocide of jews, and shutting down tunnels and airports. meanwhile, grades 3-8 test scores for 2023, on the ela assessment data, proficiency rate, tiffany, this is incredible. i mean, this is an emergency, 51.7%, the math assessment below 50? i mean, why are there not red flags everywhere and like defcom5 to help the kids. >> teachers' unions are the foot

soldiers, and they are running our country and it needs to stop and parents have to draw the boundary between school and home and nobody is going to fight for anything like a mom is going to fight for her kids, and why they are so passionate about fighting for the children in america. >> sandra: i know you are on the front lines. good see you. >> john: update, loudoun county parkway old ox road exit, in the sterling south riding herndon area, west of dulles, this is a southern airways express, flight 246, took off from dulles airport, looks like it holds probably 16 to 20 people, i would think, plus the crew, took off from dulles international airport, had an emergency and then had to land on the loudoun county parkway. so you've got emergency crews on scene there. nobody apparently was hurt in this incident. we don't know why the plane had

to make an emergency landing, but the area of loudoun county parkway between yardly ridge drive and arola mills drive will be closed for some time. must have been quite a shock in the snow as motorists are going along the road and all of a sudden the plane comes out of nowhere and lands in front of them. looks like it was a picture perfect emergency landing there. we'll keep watching this to find out what they are going to do with this plane. might be possible to take off from the roadway if the mechanical damage is not too much or maybe flatbed and haul it out of there. >> sandra: meanwhile, president biden, remember this moment with the smoothie and all, campaigning at that restaurant, cookout, but prices have gone up since even his last visit there when he showed shock at how much that smoothie cost. we are going to dig into this with larry kudlow and ask him why the stock market is hitting

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>> sandra: federal investigators are under fire for asking to search private accounts for terms like maga or trump. questioning whether it's a violation of american's privacy. kelly o'grady is live in los

angeles. how much personal information are the banks freely handing out? >> legally they can share a lot of information and some cases they are required to. so, things called know your customer laws. so banks have to gather a significant amount of data about you to ensure you are who you say you are. things like your social security number, your income, sensitive information. but banks also get access to your spending habits and browsing activities. now, they can legally share that less sensitive data with marketers and advertisers. they do have to inform you about this, so you'll get a list from your bank telling you why they share their info, what info they share, this is a bank of america example. but if you don't want certain info to be shared, you have to proactively opt out. sometimes you can't. government agencies can subpoena information they deem necessary for investigations. >> relevancy to what is

demanded. sharing with the regulatory authority, banks have to be pretty open. >> the doj website says this, a federal agency may obtain financial information about you without advance notice or your consent. and most of the cases, the agency will be required to go to court to get permission to obtain your records and sandra, that's the big question with the revelation that just happened, did they go through the proper court process. back to you. >> sandra: kelly, thank you. john. >> john: sandra, in his first interview since that historic caucus win, former president trump takes aim at nikki haley telling hannity she "has no chance of winning the gop nomination" but undeclared voters who may be more moderate could give haley a stronger showing in new hampshire where they outnumber registered republicans. shannon bream is the anchor of fox news sunday and chief legal correspondent, she joins us now from manchester, new hampshire. happy fri-yay as you like to

say. good to be with you. >> shannon: i do. good to see you, john. >> john: big news, south carolina senator tim scott who was appointed to the senate by nikki haley and said he is throwing his full support behind donald trump and will appear with him there in new hampshire at a campaign rally tonight. this is a pretty significant development. >> shannon: it really is. from here, south carolina is that next big prize and there are so many officials there, elected officials and otherwise who have decided to endorse the former president rather than their former governor. a lot of chatter that your own home state is where people know you best, you've had some political battles, maybe there are some hard feelings there but of course everybody wanted the tim scott endorsement. it's such a big prize going into such a big state. the fact he is going to show up apparently with president trump and give him the endorsement is a blow for the haley campaign, their reaction is interesting, saying why is president trump going all in with elected

officials, establishment folks in washington when he said he was about draining the swamp, a lot of folks would quibble about whether or not tim scott meets that definition, but for now the big thing is his endorsement one way and not the other. >> john: i don't think there are many people who would describe tim scott as swampy. not sure how far that argument would go on nikki haley's part. the president saying last night on "hannity" about nikki haley saying maga just doesn't like her. listen here. >> instead of talking, wastes time with nikki, she has no chance, no way, maga is not going to be with her. >> john: says maga is not going to be with her. gop breakdown found 37% of republicans were hard maga base. 25% of them were never trump and 37% of them were persuadeable, between the never trump and the persuadeable, the right candidate might be able to pull off a victory in a state like

new hampshire. is nikki haley the right candidate? >> shannon: i mean, anything is possible in politics with such a big base here of undeclared or undecided voters, those that have not registered with either of the other two major parties. as you noted, they make up the biggest group here. so, come primary night they can vote with either party and so we'll see how they turn out. you and i both know the democrats and independents turned out in big ways for nikki haley in iowa, but then it beggs the question others will say ok, if you are openly saying i'm courting democrats and independents, something her detractors have cast against here, see if the undeclared category make their way out in cold, snowy new hampshire, but better conditions than iowa. >> john: 10° is great when the

alternative is -20. 40% of new hampshire voters are undeclared, as opposed to 30% registered republican. democrat leaning undeclared or democrats might play in the primary. but you had to move to undeclared status by october 6th of last year in order to be undeclared. how much of a factor do you think that might really be? because in order for a democrat to play in the new hampshire primary, i mean, you have to be playing a long game. >> shannon: although there's another little twist to that, which is if you are not registered as anything, even undeclared, if you don't have any kind of affiliation, you can actually now still registered as a republican and get into that gop primary, so if you took not the long view but waited to figure out what you were going to do, but not affiliated with any of the regulations you can still do it.

undeclared democrat or republican that had been locked in in october if you made the choice. >> john: who do you have on fox news sunday this weekend? >> three members of congress who are here as surrogates making the final arguments across new hampshire. senator j.d. vance, he is backing president trump, we'll talk to him about that and also all three of these members about the chaos in washington, how they plan to solve it, whether the border deal comes together and doing about kicking the can again on funding, we'll see. >> john: chaos in washington? never heard of such a thing. shannon, thanks. >> shannon: it's our middle name. thanks, john. see you then. >> sandra: president biden handing out nearly $5 billion in student debt relief. it's a hot topic for voters on the ground in new hampshire. we'll look at both sides of this issue, plus this. >> john: president biden making campaign stops to buy things like smoothies and milkshakes to show he's a man of the people.

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>> sandra: this breaking just moments ago, alec baldwin, the actor, has been indicted in new mexico on two counts of involuntary manslaughter stemming from the shooting deaths on the "rust" movie set. he's been indicted in new mexico, two counts, involuntary manslaughter from that "rust" movie set. we are starting to get more details announcement mercedes colwin is joining us. what we are learning so far is this grand jury has indicted him, this just happened today on an involuntary manslaughter charge. remember, this goes back to 2021, on this fatal shooting

during a rehearsal on the movie set in new mexico. this obviously brings back and revives what has been a dormant case against this a-list actor. >> good to be with you, sandra. it's not surprising, there was a death involved in the shooting, there has been a lot of focus on whether or not alec baldwin acted recklessly, one of the underlying pinnings of involuntary manslaughter charge and when he was handed the gun and did not check the gun separately, just accepted the fact the gun had no bullets in the chamber and resulted in the fatal shooting. it's not surprising the prosecutors have been pretty aggressive from the very beginning, especially when there's a death involved. and involuntary manslaughter does not mean he intended to kill anyone, it was that he exhibited reckless conduct with respect to the handling of the gun that resulted in the fatal

injury. >> john: mercedes, it's john here. it looked for a while baldwin was going to escape prosecution, and then the local authorities said no, no, no, we have a now analysis of the situation and the weapon as well, we want to take this information and put it to a grand jury. alec baldwin had insisted in the rehearsal that he pulled back the hammer of the pistol but did not pull the trigger, that the gun just somehow went off. it would seem that authorities probably have disagreed with that. >> exactly right, john. and that is the pinpoint of this prosecution. he did make certain statements publicly that he never pulled the trigger and then the ultimate question was this. if he didn't have his finger on the trigger, how could the gun have spontaneously fired. pt so, obviously the prosecutors worked with some forensics to look at whether or not this particular gun could have discharged automatically without

the pressure of finger pushing the trigger and it's obviously they concluded it's not possible and that's one of the reasons why they were able to convince a jury to at least indict him at this point. >> sandra: this is really incredible. to john's point, this is all relying on brand-new analysis of the gun that was used and this analysis was led by a forensic science service in arizona. they stated that although baldwin repeatedly denied pulling the trigger, saying "given the test findings and observations reported here, the trigger had to be pulled or depressed sufficiently to release fully cocked or retracted hammer of the evidence involver." so basically what they are saying they did here is they pulled together parts, replacement parts to resemble the gun that was fired by baldwin, after parts of the pistol were broken during the testing by the fbi, it says. the report examined the gun and

markings it left on a spent cartridge to include the trigger had to have been pulled or depressed, mercedes. >> exactly right. so, looking at that, sandra, it's one of the reasons why they probably were able to get the indictment. and you are right about these type of forensic analysis. they are not stagnant. as we continue day-to-day, these types of diagnostics get better and better and you are right, it's been three years since miss hutchins died, just about, and it's obviously very tragic for her family, she left a young son behind, the prosecutor have been very passionate about making sure that everyone involved is held accountable, even someone like alec baldwin who has had such tremendous success as an actor. >> john: well, let me ask you this as a defense attorney, going back to the point sandra was making here, says in the a.p. report, analysis from experts and ballistics and forensic testing relied on replacement parts to reassemble the gun forward by baldwin after

parts of the pistol were broken during testing by the fbi. seems to me any defense attorney worth their salt would poke holes in that, big ones. >> i know the attorney involved here he is a tremendous lawyer and will no doubt poke holes in the forensic analysis as he can and have his own experts to combat that. it would be the battle of the experts. this is just step one. i'm sure alec baldwin did not testify in the grand jury, this is strictly just a presentation by the prosecutor and may even have -- and this is all secret proceedings, don't know what happened in that particular indictment, in that presentation. but, it seems likely that all of this forensic analysis was presented to the jury, which would ultimately indicted him, but this is step one, step two is convincing a jury that he actually is responsible for the death of miss hutchins and acted recklessly with respect to the

gun. >> sandra: mercedes, if you could, thank you so much for joining us. we'll get more details as they are coming in to us now. john. >> john: let's go live to jonathan hunt in los angeles, following this case for a couple of years now, and jonathan, what do you make of the fact that prosecutors here have reversed themselves after last april them saying they were not going to charge alec baldwin, now they have, and not just with one but two counts of involuntary manslaughter. >> jonathan: extraordinary roller coaster for everyone. the family of hutchins, her husband and their young son, and alec baldwin, you are looking at hutchins, she was killed on october 21, 2021, so well more than two years removed now from that moment, and obviously we have seen the initial case fall apart. it began to fall apart january

of last year and then it actually was dismissed in april of 2023. and now we get to this point, the grand jury indicting alec baldwin again. he has maintained obviously throughout this that he is absolutely innocent, that it is not his fault, he did not pull the trigger, he says, as you were just discussing. there are many experts who would say that gun cannot fire without a trigger being pulled. then there will be the questions, of course, of why and how did that live bullet get into the chamber of that weapon. and then you have talking of the roller coaster, everything that alec baldwin has been going through. the initial charge, thinking he was being charged, and then the case falling apart, the relief he would have felt and now he finds himself indicted again. he's been complaining by the way that the -- all of the publicity surrounding this has made it

difficult for him to continue working at least at the level that he was once working at. and it's interesting, i believe that he recently put his hampton's home on the market for something like $19 million. it may be he wants to sell a property but it could be that he is suffering financially because of this. the people who suffer the most the hutchins family and it appears the trial that he and alec baldwin will have to go through. >> sandra: so this is obviously something, we will dig deeper into here in just a second with paul mauro, but jonathan, when you look at the analysis, very specific company that does this out of arizona, and the way that they were able to replicate the findings of the gun because the

parts were damaged in the investigation by the fbi, to i don't know's point about the defense being able to easily poke holes in that, this is going to be interesting one to watch. >> jonathan: yeah, it really is, and mercedes just saying, you'll have the battle of the experts here, and let's face it. in a case like this, both sides can find an expert who will say what they want that expert to say. that is the reality of the legal system is that there are always experts, i don't want to say for hire, to say the things that people want them to say, but that is the way that it comes out. the defense will fire experts -- hire experts, who will say that we can prove that alec baldwin was not responsible in this case. the prosecution will find experts who will say the opposite, and then it's going to come down, we assume, to a jury

to decide which of those set of experts they believe in this case. >> john: i think you could say it, jonathan, there are experts for hire who will back up the case that you were making in court. thank you, jonathan, for the update. appreciate it. >> sandra: paul mauro is joining us, retired nypd inspector. bottom line, baldwin, paul, repeatedly denied pulling the trigger. this new analysis and testing would reveal, according to this report in the a.p., based on the examination of the gun and the markings it left on a spent cartridge it does conclude the trigger had to be pulled or depressed. >> paul: obviously what this is going to turn on and one of those situations where it looks to me like alec should have listened to his attorney. he came out, gave interviews, put himself in position where he said he made a very definitive and statement saying i did not

pull that trigger, absolutely no way, etc.. and by putting himself in an all or nothing position, when you get this new testing, what happened as you mentioned, the gun was damaged in the original testing, so what they had to do, they had to do it with replacement parts and don't think they are not going to go, the defense is not going to go at that as well. and using the replacement parts they came to the decision there was no way that the gun could have been fired without the depressing of that trigger. they wrote a report that indicates that. that's what they are hanging the case on now and they have baldwin's statements to contrast that. as you say, they'll be experts, but one thing, baldwin says he didn't do it and our new findings say he did, and that was enough to get the grand jury to indict. >> john: paul, let me come back to what you were mentioning a moment ago and sandra and i mentioned it as well. the idea that the forensic

analysis of this weapon was done on the weapon that had been fixed, i guess you could say, with replacement parts because it had been broken in the fbi's examination of it. i can imagine alec baldwin's attorney is going to say look, when the gun was given to the fbi it was malfunctioning and in the process of repairing the gun for forensic analysis, whatever problem that led it to discharge had been fixed. that seems to be pretty obvious to me. >> it is almost certainly going to be a major part of the defense here. why would it not. this case has a lot of procedural problems in it, and they have been through a number of special prosecutors, i mean, to show you how nested this all got, according to the defense attorney, he's going to be calling the chief who wrote the criminal complaint against

guitierrez, the armorer on the scene, as a defense witness for alec baldwin, because of all the stuff that you are talking about, and some of the defense -- some of the statements that have been made, some of the statements that became public. it really got very, very messy. there was an inadvertent email that was sent from one of the investigators saying something like it is the worst case i've ever worked on and i can quote it here, it was reprehensible and unprofessional to a degree i still have no words for. ok. he's referring to the conduct of the santa fe sheriff's office. so you have even the prosecution side will work against them and part of the entire investigation. so, it really did get messy and one of the things you have to consider as you are looking at this is the overlay of the local politics, you know. it's an area that does make money from the movie industry,

apparently, and you know, there's a lot of -- there was civil suits, a lot of legal process going on, and there are people that have been given jobs on the movie that continued. they continued to make that film. and you know, it's going to get very local and very nested i think very gossipy and sort of like a soap opera, but ultimately i think you are right, john, it's going to come down to the question of the gun and the fact they did it with the facsimile. >> sandra: all right, paul, we are going to take a quick break as we continue to report the breaking news of baldwin's attorneys by another source, saying we look forward to our day in court. more when we return. and wakes up feeling like himself. get the rest to be your best with non-habit forming zzzquil. ♪ ♪

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>> sandra: all right, president biden making a stop for a milkshake and a bite to eat after touting the economy in north carolina. this is at a restaurant called "cookout", the president had also visited a cookout in raleigh-durham, and eagle eyed observers says it looks like the

menu items have jumped. president's order, a bacon cheeseburger and a shake. to see how much inflation has jacked up the price, ice cream up 22%, potatoes 20%, and ground beef nearly 30% increase. somebody not shocked or surprised by any of that, larry kudlow, host of kudlow on box business. not exactly the most healthy lunch but we are not here to criticize. but, this is what everybody is dealing with. >> larry: the smoothie was six bucks, it was three a few years ago. that was a joke. i think the bidens don't understand why bidenomics is so unpopular, that is to say even though the rate of inflation has come down, that's a good thing and i agree with that. prices are substantially higher than they were two years ago or three years ago or four years

ago. i call it the affordability crisis. prices are rising faster than wages. you got some relief this summer on that story, now we are going back to where inflation is picking up again, and it's not gonna -- it's like the dirty little secret of bidenomics. people can't afford, the middle income folks, lower income folks cannot afford to live in the biden economy because prices have gone up so much. cpi is up about 17 or 18%. >> sandra: the smoothie and acted somewhat shocked it was $6. i'm telling you, that sounds cheap compared to a lot of smoothies in new york city. >> larry: reminds me of papa bush. >> sandra: saying he needs to get on the ground and finds out what it is voters are feeling, he touts the very policies that they are complaining about are

driving up their prices. >> larry: or how about this, though. ok, president biden keeps saying how he cut the deficit by $1.7 trillion, $1.7 trillion, right. i'm looking at numbers here. last year's deficit was one -- was two. -- 2.0 -- sorry, $2 trillion. first quarter of fy24 is complete, september through december. deficit is increased by another 87 billion above where it was a year ago, spending is up 12%, just in the first fiscal year quarter. so, how can we assume that inflation is going to continue to come down? i don't think it will. i don't think the fed is going to lower interest rates because inflation remains a problem. look, the economy is more resilient than a lot of us thought, ok. so, biden has something on that. he doesn't sell that. he doesn't look at that. he doesn't understand prices and

wages, ok. prices up faster than wages over the past three years. >> sandra: your reaction to two things, biden on jobs and taxes. your expertise. >> since i've been to office we have created 14 million new jobs. 440 new jobs in north carolina alone. you know how many billionaires we have in america today. you know what their average tax rate, federal tax rate is, 8.5%. >> larry: this drives me crazy. this is such a patent -- i know presidents don't lie, an untruth. they have done this for a couple years now. biden's staff is using an unrealized capital gains. that means you did not make the transaction, you didn't have the capital gains, as a wealth tax, ok. which never passed. it doesn't exist. they are assuming that wealth tax on unrealized capital gains

exists, and therefore they calculate the income of billionaires, it's not even billionaires, it's people making 100 million or more and assume it happened when it didn't happen and therefore it is an absolute untruth. and one more thing. you can't say you created 14 million jobs when most of this number comes from jobs returning post covid. >> sandra: from the pandemic, correct. >> larry: pre-pandemic, trump created 9 million jobs, biden has created 4 million jobs, 9 minus 4 is 5 million jobs, did not do near as well as donald trump did but keep selling the stuff and you have number crunchers saying no, no, why do you do that, rest your whole economic platform, bidenomics, on untruths. >> sandra: a hard time selling it to voters living through it.

dow and s & p 500, all time highs today, second record in 2024, if we can pop up the dow. what's happening here? and what -- i don't know. we were scratching our heads earlier. talking about the resiliency. my take, i think there is great anticipation the fed is going to cut rates this year. >> larry: i agree, i think that's exactly right. and maybe setting up for disappointment. on the other hand, donald trump has said several times in the last few days the stock market is rallying because it's anticipating he will return to the presidency. >> sandra: ooh. >> larry: ooh. that is his view. my experience with mr. trump in the years i worked for him, good investor, knows how things work. you can take it for what it's worth, the kudlow trust is doing well no matter what the reason and i'm happy about that, so is

my saintly wife. >> sandra: a lot of americans looking at their 401(k) feeling the same way. enjoy. we'll see you at 4:00 on fbn. john. >> john: fox news alert, update of breaking news on a plane, a cessna grand caravan that took off from dulles international airport landing on the loudoun county parkway in the sterling ashburn south riding area, relieved to report no injuries and all passengers are safe and sound. thankful to the pilots who did exactly what they were trained to do, the safety of the passengers first. don't know what they are going to do with the plane and loudoun county parkway is closed. we have heard about book bans, but how hard is it to find books at the heart of the debate. the next guest says it's not

hard, and it may be the opposite. he dug into school libraries and here to share findings. james, you write ie free press the debate over banned books, left is screaming the conservatives are trying to keep books out of libraries. the truth about banned books, left claims progressive books are censored in public schools, my research proves the opposite is true. what did you find? >> i looked at 35 of the largest public districts in the country, blue state and red states, all over the country, systematic under counting of conservative books, authors. and that's what's so troubling. we need viewpoint diversity more than ever, john. we are a divided country. young people don't consider the other side and when i was a young kid i went to my school's library, checked out progressive books from cornell west and glenn greenwald, they challenged me and young americans are not challenged like that anymore. >> john: if you don't look at both viewpoints you'll have

one-sided view. you wrote for example, how to be an anti-racist, the only remedy to pass discrimination is present discrimination. 42% of u.s. school districts i surveyed. only one in san antonio, texas offered "woke racism," religious anti-racist ideas, so you get one side but not the other. >> this book right here, i disagree with it, i've read it twice. it should exist on every school shelf so long as this book which repudiates this idea here. 13 more times you will find the progressive book than the book that refutes the argument. >> john: the last time you were here, talking about an article of conservative viewpoints and ideas getting elbowed out of debate at the high school and the college level, that it was sort of a trend forward one

sidedness in debate thinking. this would seem to follow along those same lines. i'm wondering, who is behind this? school boards, individual librarians? >> that's the million dollar question. symptom of a bigger problem in education, which is the one-sidedness. very, very one-sided. seen it with the increase in antisemitic education, and what's happening across the country. ask the teacher what they think about president trump, nine times out of ten you will not get a positive answer, an honest answer, and kamala harris, i deeply respect her, i did not vote for her but i respect her, her book is found in 56% of the libraries i surveyed but mike pence, immediate past vice president, 6%. >> john: and vivek ramaswamy, his book in 0% of the libraries, nikki haley 0, mike pompeo, same thing. tim scott, "american redemption

story," is 0%, and ron desantis 0. >> vivek says the path to truth runs through free speech and open debate. let's bring debate back to the classrooms, conversations with race, and conservative case of race and through that discussion we will find truth. >> john: always supposed to have two sides in a debate, why they call it a debate. james, great to see you. look forward to the next article. sandra, that will wrap it up for this week. >> sandra: we'll have a special on sunday, right, john, 5:00, air on the fox news channel, new hampshire primary special. we look forward to joining you all with that. >> john: just when you think your work week is done, there's more work to be done. >> sandra: set your dvr, never miss us. i'm sandra smith