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new hampshire and defeat crooking joe biden and we're going to make america great again. >> can you hear that sound? [cheers and applause] that's the sound of a two-person race. [cheers and applause] >> bill: here we go, election eve in beautiful bedford, new hampshire. just like the painting drew it up. republican field is down to two in this election. the outcome could be a game changer going forward. good morning. hope you had a great weekend. monday and we're live in new hampshire. i'm bill hemmer. >> dana: great to be with you. i'm dana perino. this is "america's newsroom." it's wonderful to come back to bedford, new hampshire, a beautiful and wonderful state. they have had a lot of politics here before we arrived. >> bill: everybody is engaged and what we love to see. >> dana: the latest poll shows former president trump leading nikki haley by nearly 20 points.

the race narrowed to a one-on-one match-up after yesterday's surprise resignation by florida governor ron desantis. >> it's clear to me that republican voters want to give trump a number chance. he is superior to the incumbent joe biden. that's clear. i signed a pledge to support the republican nominee and i will honor that pledge. >> dana: nikki haley is here and will join us in a moment. let's begin with bryan llenas live in manchester, new hampshire and an update on all things from his point of view. >> good morning. governor ron desantis was set to have a 5:00 p.m. meet and greet in manchester, new hampshire yesterday before he released that video announcing he was dropping out of the race, endorsing the former president. but he also took one last parting shot at trump. >> i've had disagreements with donald trump such as on the coronavirus pandemic and his elevation of anthony fauci.

trump is better than the incumbent joe biden, that's clear. >> trump spoke to us about desantis's endorsement and the governor's covid criticism. >> he worked very hard. it is a tough go and he worked hard. his wife is a terrific woman and both worked hard and dropping out he endorsed me and i appreciate that very much. i think we'll do very well. it is hard for him. it's not like you feel wonderful when you do it. i think we did a fantastic job on covid. >> last night former governor nikki haley had her largest rally yet in new hampshire. 1200 people as tv's judge judy endorsed her. she sharpened her attacks against trump saying at 77 years old, he is too old for the presidency. here is haley and trump's reaction. >> it is a fact that you decline over time. it is a fact that you slow down and what i'm saying is the

country is in disarray, the world is on fire. we need somebody at the top of their game. >> i'm a lot sharp he than here. i would sit down and take an aptitude test. my result against hers. she won't come close to winning. >> in the first poll out today since desantis dropped out when voters asked who their second choice would be only 8% chose haley. 54% someone else. 19% undecided. haley insists that desantis supporters are up for grabs and so is tomorrow's first in the nation primary. >> dana: thank you so much. good to see you this morning. >> bill: dana is on the road with us. where would we be without the traveling billboard? we've been doing this day-to-day following the suffolk university out of boston massachusetts day-to-day tracking poll like a week ago, okay? here is trump where it stands right now and nikki haley at 38,

donald trump at 57. let me take you up here, too. it's about voters, caucus goers in iowa. the real number delegates. that's what you need for the nomination. 1,215 to get there. we are a long way from there right nouchlt as we stand now donald trump boxed up 20 in iowa. ron desantis nine and nikki haley eight. take you back eight years ago. here is what donald trump did a winner over john kasich by 20 points. cruz in third and further down the line bush and rubio and christie who dropped out two weeks ago. late last night rochester, new hampshire, an hour northeast of here near the border with maine we're at a trump rally talking about the people waiting in line for eight or ten hours about the issues that matter to them. check it out. >> come on, guys. what are the issues for you? >> the border. >> immigration is a serious problem. it is destroying the country. we have to close the border.

>> energy is a big issue. >> the border, inflation, economy. >> everything. >> saving our country. saving it so that my son has something when he gets older. >> what's the issue for you? >> stock market and the border. >> all right. >> economy mostly for me. >> economy, high gas prices, groceries. everything is expensive. >> what is your issue? >> everything is expensive. i'm a young adult trying to buy a house right now. you know how expensive that is to buy the house? too much. everything is through the roof. [cheers and applause] >> i want to know from all of you what's the issue in this election? >> the border. security at the border. >> definitely the border. >> yeah the border and bringing

the country back to what it could be. >> if you could vote, what would you vote on? >> trump all the way. >> bill: she is 11 years old. with us now nikki haley on the eve of election in new hampshire. nice to see you. >> happy pre-election day. >> bill: have you spoken with ron desantis yes? >> i have not. is >> bill: what was your reaction? >> a personal issue to get in a race and more personal to get out. i wish him well. >> bill: where do his voters go? it looks like they go two to one trump, trump would pick up 66%. >> that's what you think. i know that the desantis voters love america and they wanted a new generational leader. they wanted a conservative that was going to go if there and clean up government. that's what we're going to do. let's be clear.

i voted for trump twice. i was proud to serve america in his administration. i agree with a lot of his policies. he was good at breaking things. you have to be good at fixing things, too. this is a time we have to fix america. that's what we're focused on. and rightly or wrongly, chaos follows him. and you talk to any of the people. we had 1200 people at our rally. they are worried. they want to get wasteful spending under control. worried about their kids. kids are wore eft how to buy a home. it's 49 years old for the average home buyer. the border. it doesn't look like the united states of america. northern border, they have had 500 people cross the border on the terrorist watch list. people are feeling this. here you have donald trump in a courtroom today. and you've got him and joe biden giving us more of the same.

70% of americans say they don't want a trump-biden rematch. everybody saw both of them put us in trillions of dollars in debt and investigations. we need a new leader focused on how we get america back on track for our kids. i don't want my kids to live like this. i don't think anybon wants their kids to live like that. we can do better. >> dana: you said you wanted to get it to a two-person race. was it in time to make a difference? >> absolutely. we started with 13 people. 2% in the polls. we finished iowa with 20%. we want to be stronger in new hampshire and stronger in south carolina. keep in mind, i know the political class wants to say that this race is over. i know the political class is saying everybody needs to get behind trump. this is not a coronation.

less than 1 1/2 percent of that state voted for trump. we haven't started with this election yet. we don't do coronation. it's about giving people options. we're in it and keep going and count it. i saved my money. i made sure we stayed in a lot of garden inns and flew commercial. we'll go into south carolina. >> bill: here is donald trump on the independents here in new hampshire. >> did you see where 50% of the people that voted for her in iowa are going to vote for biden? in other words, they're democrats. they're voting. think of it. they'll vote for biden. they just had no choice so they picked her. this isn't what we want. >> bill: it looks like you went did you go on offense too late

in new hampshire? >> of course not. my job was to get every fellow out of the race. one left. not go against trump from the very beginning. this is a marathon rick not a sprint. you go one at a time. he has lied about that. he told everybody on your newscast throughout fox that democrats were going to be voting in the new hampshire primary. democrats can't vote in the primary. they had to change their registration months ago. he continues to say i want to cut social security. i never said that or raise the retirement age. he said i don't want a wall. i passed the toughest illegal immigration law in the country when i was governor. president bam ya sued me over it and we won. just because trump says something doesn't make it true. when he throws temper tantrums like this he is nervous and feels threatened. he should. we'll call him out. we have a country to save. are we really going to be the republican party that decides

who are good and bad republicans? who we want and who we don't want? that's how we continue to lose. there is a reason i defeat biden in every swing state and in every election. there is a reason that trump is head-to-head with biden in every poll. because he pushes americans away who don't fit what he wants. i bring americans in because that's the only way we heal and that's the only way we'll be strong again. >> dana: you have a lot a ahead of you today and tomorrow long days. short nights. >> it's worth it. when you have a country to save you do what it takes. >> bill: if donald trump is over 50% you still continue. the general election hasn't begun, is that what you are saying? >> i don't think you know what the numbers will be. i tell you we're heading into south carolina, my state. i know it well. they talk about new hampshire is good for her because of independents. i won the state twice.

i was a tea party governor. i know people in south carolina. they want you to fight for it and earn it and see your grit. they don't want you coming in and doing a rally. they want you to show what you're made of. i'll do it over again. >> bill: seven or nine events today. >> as many as we can. >> dana: other news. fox news alert. an illegal migrant alleged child sex predator is released from a virginia jail without notice after ignoring ice detainer request. we're live in delaware. what's going on? >> well, dana, senator john fetterman is joining the list of democrats reading the poll numbers that show president biden only has an 18% approval rating over his handling of the southern border. >> i honestly don't understand why it's controversial to say we need a secure border. you can be very spoifsht of immigration but we also need to have a secure border.

>> here is what's going on from our own bill melugin. honduran illegal immigrant charged with child sex abuse was released from a fairfax county jail without notice ignoring warnings from ice and assaulted an ice agent when they arrested him again at his home in springfield, virginia. ice said fairfax county refused to honor the ice detainer launched against the non-citizen. when they're ignored the public is put at risk. this time the result was a unnecessary injury of a federal law enforcement officer. president biden recently said he doesn't think the situation on the border is a crisis but admitted to jacque heinrich the border is not secure. here is biden and texas governor greg abbott responding. >> [inaudible]

>> what biden or the democrats say we need more money. it is not to build more wall. >> president biden heads to northern virginia to speak tomorrow. he is not on the ballot in new hampshire. he finished fifth in the 2020 primary just behind elizabeth warren. >> dana: thank you for the update. >> bill: 14 past now. donald trump was here last night. he heads back to court today for week two in his defamation trial in new york city. the question is whether former president will take the stand in his own defense. will it happen? we're watching. >> dana: the d.a. in the georgia trump election case facing her own legal problems. will she have to testify after being hit with a subpoena? today marks the 51st anniversary of roe v. wade and democrats hoping that will be the issue come november.

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>> bill: if you feel like this is reading like an episode of a daytime soap opera, you might not be wrong. a georgia d.a. in the trump election interference trial gets messier by the day. now entangled in a divorce that involves an alleged boyfriend. that's the man she hired to prosecute the former president. did you get all that? steve harrigan watching the movements out of georgia with more where we are today. starting a new week, steve, hello, good morning. >> bill, it is a strange mix. right now you have a presidential prosecution and mixed in with the drama about a district attorney, the

prosecutor she hired, they might be lovers. she paid him more than $650,000 and now an estranged wife in a bitter divorce fight with the prosecutor. the hearing is nathan wade's divorce proceedings. will they be unsealed and will the district attorney be forced to give a deposition? also a hearing set by the judge for february 15th that will look at whether these two, the d.a. and prosecutor had an improper relationship and whether they misused public money to get vacations for themselves. some say this could derail or at least delay the case against trump. >> at a very minimum this is going to push the case well out past this year's presidential election because whichever side loses on this motion, the other side is probably going to be able to appeal it pre-trial. >> now we saw a hint of what these divorce proceedings could contain on friday. lawyers for the estranged wife

released documents that show nathan wade's bank account showing he purchased plane tickets for himself and the d.a. to go to miami, san francisco, along with some caribbean cruise and hotel in napa valley. the former president is having a field day with this information calling the two love birds who want to aspire to the lifestyles of the rich and famous. back to you. >> bill: steve harrigan in georgia. >> dana: let's bring in shannon bream, and trey gowdy and former federal prosecutor. good person to have here. i feel like the story has all the makings of a john grisham novel. for fani willis it doesn't look good. >> it's tough. she has been described as a great attorney. people have said she has a nose for this and excellent attorney. maybe not on the political stuff. the question is allegedly paying this man she may be dating more

than the other prosecutors in the case will raise eyebrows. professional plea and ethically what are you doing with the funds you have in your office to prosecute this case? are they benefiting you personally through this relationship? >> bill: some of the questions of nathan wade or others had contact with jack smith in washington, d.c. you had jim jordan asking about contacts he might have had with the white house. here is what jim jordan said about that. >> we've actually written mr. wade, nathan wade the guy she hired wanting to know who he talked to at the white house and who he talked to on january 6th committee and who he talked to, correspondence he had with the justice department. after all the district attorney's office in atlanta received 14.6 million in grant money from the federal government to help run their office. we think we have a right to know what's going on here. >> bill: does that add up to you, trey? >> it does. jimmie so there are politics and

there is the law. the politics is awful, as shannon laid out. the optics. nathan wade is not an experienced criminal prosecutor. you ought not to be dating your boss. certainly if your boss is married. who is interested? the family court judge is interested, gbi. georgia bureau of investigation is interested, congress is interested whether or not you were talking to d.o.j. but let me tell you who is probably not interested, the trial judge in state of georgia versus trump. i don't see the relevance and i know people are sitting saying you can't be serious. you can't be doing all the things nathan wade and willis are doing. i was involved in a case where the prosecutor and the f.b.i. agents lied to a republican congressman. they lied to him both, prosecutor and federal agents. the judge wouldn't allow the jury to hear it. the prosecutor donated to a group that wanted to get rid of the republican congressman. the trial judge said it is not relevant and the jury won't hear

it. we're talking about it from a political standpoint. whether a jury ever hears any of this in georgia versus trump, i'm not sure. >> dana: wow. the other thing happening today, shannon, 51st anniversary of roe v. wade and biden is going to make a big deal out of abortion as an issue for the democrats going forward. his statement is even as americans from ohio to kentucky to given, man -- republican elected officials continue to push for a national ban and devastating new restrictions across the country. there will be a lot on this. there is already a lot of disinformation and misinformation that's out there. how do you see it going forward? >> the knock has been on republicans. they have not taken control of the messaging. just in the statements we get from the white house they refer to it as a constitutional right taken away. supreme court found it was not a

constitutional right. if you aren't talking to democrats. you guys have ask them, too. where do you draw the line? articulate your position for the viewers. repeatedly democrats on the show that wouldn't say we draw it anywhere beyond the full pregnancy for a woman to make that decision. >> bill: what you have to look at here is whether or not these seven or eight battleground states in november have abortion on the ballot. and i think we need to get a measure of that. i don't know if we have a great sense of that today. or even an accurate sense, do you? >> i tell what we do have a sense of. most americans don't want women or doctors imprisoned when it comes to the issue of abortion. when you have state let tours like one in my home state advocating for the death penalty for a rape victim who decides not to carry the child, then that's a political loser. republicans used to say this is a state issue. we got to the states and you

have crazy legislators proposing things like the death penalty, most americans, you can criticize roe v. wade all you want, most americans had come to some peace that this is what the law is. they may not like it to shannon's point. republicans ought to be talking about infanticide, partial birth abortion but not putting women in prison. that's a political loser. >> dana: 100%. great to have you both. you will be perino an politics. >> bill: from overseas iranian proxies hitting u.s. forces in a significant way ramping up fears of a wider war in the middle east. lawmakers pressuring president biden to take control of that. both democrats and republicans. what will the white house decide? plus this. this was nuts, a grandmother arrested as she was about to board a one way flight out of the country and due in court

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>> bill: you are looking live right, perino? a beautiful shot. we're in new hampshire. a live look as the sun comes up on this the eve of the big new hampshire primary. first votes of the primary are cast in less than 24 hours. we'll see what kind of twists and turns it takes for the republican party. how are you doing? >> dana: good segue into what i want to talk about. the sunshine is incredible and enjoying it very much. sunshine state florida. ron desantis when he got out yesterday of the race there was a headline from national review. there was a piece. ron desantis was a peloton candidate in a post covid world.

during covid everyone got the peloton but after covid people wanted to go to the gym. after the initial situation, people on the republican side largely to this point said we want to stick with trump and he decided to get out and endorsed president trump right away yesterday. >> bill: clever writing there, i think. what we need to find out next in this relationship is when ron desantis and donald trump are in the same room again together. >> dana: i bet it won't be too long. >> bill: he made a decision to stay in tallahassee and not come here. maybe it's tomorrow night. we shall see when that day happens. >> dana: then we might see sparks fly in south carolina. check this out. a florida grandmother is due in court charged in a murder for hire plot. florida law professor was killed a decade ago. last november officials connected his ex-mother-in-law in the case and arrested her just as she was boarding a

one-way flight out of the country. what's going on? madison is live in atlanta with the latest. >> good morning, dana. he was murdered in his driveway in 2014. now his mother-in-law, donna, is another person charged in the crime, along with her son, charlie. she is due in court today. dramatic new video shows her being arrested at the miami airport in november while attempting to board a one-way flight to vietnam, a country that does not have an ex extradition treaty with the u.s. her arrest came days after charlie's conviction for hiring two hitmen to murder his brother-in-law. police arrested her with her husband, haar varicose attempting to board the same flight. her demeanor is calm. she is charged with solicitation

to commit murder in the death. the 73-year-old is the fifth person arrested in the murder for hire plot. legal experts say jail conversations between donna and charlie are what led to her arrest. >> prosecutors will definitely argue to jurors that an innocent person doesn't flee. they stay and they fight. she will argue she was being framed like the mona lisa and had to get out of town to avoid the unlawful conviction that was about to take place. >> charlie was sentenced to life in prison without parole back in december. he maintains his innocence, dana. >> dana: thank you, that's a wild story. >> bill: centcom says some u.s. troops in an air base in iraq may have suffered traumatic brain injury. missiles landed near their base with more strikes on iran-backed houthis in yemen. all raising fears the war in

gaza could be spreading. retired three star general served in gaza and iraq as well. thank you for your time, sir. thank you for being here today. u.s. personnel i'm reading the headline, undergoing evaluation for traumatic brain injuries. we've been waiting and keeping our fingers crossed to make sure that any of our troops were not affected and now they have been. so what next, general? >> yeah, bill, thanks for having me. i think, you know, the one common denominator to all of these are the iranian influence. the axis they're creating with hezbollah and hamas, but with the houthis, with the iraqi militias that shot at our guys. look, i've spent time in iraq and thousands of americans have spent time there. it is now an iraqi and u.s. base

and bill, if you can't reach out and touch israel, going after americans in iraq is probably your next easiest option. >> bill: here is iran, their influence with the houthi rebels. deputy national security advisor on that. >> they are strong supporters of hezbollah in lebanon, also waging tax and support the houthis and shia militia groups. we have held iran responsible for this in a number of ways. >> bill: it is the apex from where all this stems. here is the issue. we're not at war with the houthi rebels but in battle with them now. not a lot of americans had that on their bingo card. we had a colonel on our program last friday say the saudis were at war with the houthi rebels for ten years and fought to a draw. the saudis bombed the houthi

rebels 25,000 times in ten years. so what are we in for, sir? >> i think really if you are looking at our engagement now it is about protection and sacred and inherent right of self-defense for those ships. those u.s., british and international commercial ships. we have a moral obligation to insure those ships are defended. two ways to do it. number one you shoot down the missiles that are coming at you and the drones. the other one is the -- if you see hostile intent and setting up missiles, ballistic missiles, a step up, if you see that, do you have the right to go in there and preemptively attack the site? yes, that's what's occurring.

the u.s. and british ships and international ships in the red sea today, those captains, those commanders have a sacred and moral obligation to defend those ships. >> bill: thank you for your time. a big issue. this administration needs to deal with it and get a handle on it in the next ten months in this election year. we'll speak down the road. thank you, sir. >> dana: also in the middle east a tragic update on a story we're following closely. the search for two u.s. navy seals who went missing 11 days ago has been called off. they were on a mission to seize iranian-made weapons bound for the houthis in yemen. central command says the search is now a recovery operation. we mourn the loss of those two brave people and the mission that they were on was an important one but the overall strategy waiting to see from the administration what are they going to do? >> bill: a huge sacrifice when

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good morning. >> good morning, bill. shelby park here is very quiet compared to even december when hundreds of thousands of migrants crossed over illegally on the southern border. this spot right here was one of the biggest spots for those migrant crossings. now take a look at what texas governor greg abbott's military department has done to fortify this park. texas dps tells us the low number of migrants crossings now is seasonal and once the weather warms up they do expect to see an influx once again. we saw the military putting up even more fencing over the weekend to add to that razor wire. texas has now kicked out border patrol from this park and texas state troopers are now arresting migrants who tamper with razor wire charging them with criminal trespassing. witnessed texas military two-man boats patrolling the river, another deterrent. house foreign affairs committee

chairman michael mccaul and members of congress took a boat tour of the rio grande to see migrant crossings. chairman mccaul gave us insight into a meeting he had with president biden and the national security chairman. >> every democrat there agreed that we needed to secure the border. including the president of the united states. he says it's broken. it needs to be fixed. we need significant changes. >> mccaul and other congressional members are in mexico city speaking with president how to deal with the fentanyl crisis crossing into the united states. >> bill: thanks, eagle pass, texas, with that. thank you. >> dana reads sports. >> dana: bill, it's not about football today but basketball. ohio state women's basketball team upsetting number two iowa yesterday. the win prompted fans to storm the court leading to a scary collision with iowa star caitlin clark.

you saw there a fan knocking over clark as she tried to run off the floor. she is okay. she is a national treasure. she scored a season-high 45 points in the overtime loss. >> bill: national treasure indeed who got up and walked off the court. >> dana: imagine if i got hit by that guy? i'm out. >> see the phone go flying on the court? >> dana: i wouldn't want to be hit by the court. >> bill: lions within and the chiefs beat buffalo last night. let's watch it again, the caitlin clark deal? i think i've watched it six times. >> dana: get the fan off the floor. >> bill: back in new hampshire and here is a man challenging joe biden. >> i when think joe biden is a good man but not standing in front of the press or here meeting voters or answering questions or not doing town halls and won't do debates. i think he is a good man, not a

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after the dnc scheduled south carolina's primary first at the encouragement of the commander-in-chief. the grassroots campaigns to push for write in votes is happening for some time. neil is the executive director of the new hampshire institute of politics. nice to see you, good morning. we have pointed questions for you. first here are -- stand by. here are democratic voters on what they call the dnc debacle in new hampshire. >> new hampshire has always been a very well-informed and engaged electorate. we don't want what the deal with the dnc has struck to interfere with our democratic process. >> that's an issue i feel that the democratic party and the national committee needs to fully address and that has been a concern of mine because that is not how things should be done. it has caused a distraction in the party when we all need to be united. >> bill: it hasn't gone over well. the ultimate question is whether

or not it affects joe biden in a general election campaign. if you have a razor-tight country in a state with four electoral votes that could determine the outcome. >> bill: new hampshire's four electorate votes. if al gore had won them he would have been president of the united states. it is a purple state. biden though he has made this decision polled over trump in all of our polls about double digits. so he has maintained a lead even though he has snubbed new hamp hampshire. >> dana: they had to spend $4 million to tell people you have to write in biden's name. >> this misspelled it in the first advertising way they did. >> bill: it's hard to do. >> the main thing is he has fumbled this right from the beginning and i think that if it's indicative of how they will run a general election campaign

against the republican nominee they could be in trouble. >> bill: i'm reading that the write-in campaign had more than 60 meetings in the last two months. 60 meetings. who tolerates that? >> right. we've also had about 20 different members of the administration in the past ten days come to new hampshire and had a microphone put in their face and said are you here because of the primary? they deny it. they're running a campaign here even though they say they aren't. >> dana: do you have an opinion of vivek dropping out would help trump or ron desantis dropping out and chris christie dropping out and nikki haley wanted a two-person race how those will break out? >> 3/four of ramaswamy and desantis's voters were favorable to trump. 100% of chris christie voters in our polling show they were unfavorable to trump. let's say that christie voters go to nikki and desantis and

vivek go to trump. i think that's why we've seen both of them raise their level almost equally and still double digit lead now with trump. >> bill: dana has a question. >> dana: a lot of people think what will happen in 2028? could ron desantis make a run for that? do you think based on what's going on we the media and politicians will be here in 2028, does new hampshire maintain the position as the first primary in the nation? >> i absolutely do. this is a state-run election and we have a lot of -- more than that, it is a great testing ground. we don't want to tell the rest of the country what to do. we want to test candidates and see how they are good. if they're good it's better for the party in the long run. you get a better candidate. >> bill: wonder if democratic voters hold it against him. i guess that's the underlying -- that's the undertow here. quick answer. >> on the other side of that is

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