good to be in new york. >> thank you. ♪ >> bret: finally tonight, today's throw back 64 years ago a group of black college students known as the greensboro 4 staged a sit-in at segregated retail store lunch counter in north carolina. franklin, david richmond, ezzell blare jr. and joseph mcneil sat down for lunch at a business h a policy of serving no blacks. when they were denied service the four men refused to give up their seats. many more african-americans followed all of that as it swept through the south. that's the "special report" fair, balanced and still unafraid. "the ingraham angle" is now. ♪ ♪ >> laura: good evening, everyone. i'm laura ingraham. this is is "the ingraham angle"d thank you for joining us. desperate measures. that he was the focus of tonight's angle. ♪ >> laura: last night we told you

about those peaceful pro-life protesters in iowa who are facing more than a decade in prison. their crime? praying and singing at an abortion clinic. but what if you are part of a pro-hamas protest that blocks major arteries in our nation's capital when congress is actually in session? well, "the ingraham angle" got exclusive video. [shouting] called the united states of america. and israel a minion and puppet. [inaudible] the hell with zionism, long live the revolution. >> laura: is he calling for a revolution. over there, here, both. who knows. but because he hates america, that means, of course, he is protected because a lot of people on the left don't really like america either. he is even celebrated by our anti-american establishment. now, as we told you last night,

some polls are looking promising for donald trump especially in swing states just as the country faces a mine field of problems these days, so does trump. and his coming in the form may be a coordinated series of legal attacks directed by powerful interest. of course, it's all a joke to those who get the big payoffs. >> first thing, rachel, you and i are going to go shopping. we're going to get completely new wardrobe. new shoes, motorcycle for crowley, new fishing rod for robby. rachel, what do you want? penthouse. what do you want? >> rachel: nothing. >> it's yours, rachel. >> laura: everyone needs to understand biden's left wing flank will do anything and everything to blow up trump's chances in november. and the election, their goal, of course, is to fundamentally change america because they believe our country is too rich and too racist. now their m.o. can be summed up

in one line. reward four friends and pun be issue in your enemies. so no matter where they gain a foot hold. think about academia. corporate america. the courts. federal agencies. of the media, the entertainment industry, even the churches. they start purging conservatives from their ranks. and then they begin using those institutions to persecute their political enemies. the principles of fairness, objective standards, equally justice, all of it goes right out the window. now claudine gay got that harvard post not because she is the best of the best. she got her post because she was in the club and would follow orders. now, once left wing apparatchiks are in place, the real damage is inflicted. thanks to the left's dream of cashless bail in new york, migrants who beat up those new york cops, they're already roaming free. and literally they gave america the double finger after being

released. well, the "new york post" is reporting that police now believe that four of the migrants who beat up the cops have already hopped on a bus to california. they apparently gave fake names to a nonprofit that helped migrants get out of the city. nonprofit gets money from you, the taxpayer. zero consequences for them but not for the january 6th defendants. because they were political enemies. so the doj wanted to make examples of them. that explains the nationwide dragnet, the federal resources poured into their prosecution. they are still looking for like 300 people. of course, the solitary confinement, the obscenely long prison sentences, all of it, because in the democrats' warped world view the j 6ers should be cast out of society forever and never ever be allowed to you work again. even if they didn't enter the capitol. even if they didn't commit acts of violence, it doesn't matter.

what about those two congressional staffers who filmed themselves having gay sex in a capitol hearing room and then posted it on the internet? well, since the establishment likes that sort of behavior, they are part of a protected class. and no charges will be filed. what happened to congress' demand that we protect those sacred hallowed halls. remember pelosi after january 6th? you are half nude and bent over a conference table if you are a liberal, you're good. but you put your legs up on nancy pelosi's desk, and you are behind bars for four and a half years. again, they believe the purpose of every institution is to help their friends and to punish their enemies. if you are a liberal d.a. like fulton county fani willis you think you are well within your rights to give your secret lover government work because you are also working to take down trump. and if you are a democrat a.g., your people know that their job in the end is to protect hunter

biden because the main enemy always trump. so why was anyone surprised when the most surveilled building in washington, the white house, you can leave evidence of cocaine and get away with it? people wonder why the indictments haven't hurt trump? i will tell you why, because most americans see it as one big political vendetta. and that same style of pernicious politics is why the military is hitting a recruiting short fall. especially among white men, ditto in law enforcement. and it's why christian parents are pulling their kids from public schools. they don't want to spend their time and certainly their hard earned money in places where they feel hated and even targeted. it's not just for economic reasons by the way that people are leaving new york. that's a big part of it new york and california and illinois. it's also because people see those states as harassing the successful but coddling the

criminals. i remember when democrats actually had some sort of ethical code. remember, it was live and let live? but that's gone. their activist base is even worse. because they're determined to persecute their enemies and, again, protect their friends. >> that makes it easier to advance their other great priorities. things like limitless abortion. drug legalization. dei, open borders, and, of course, transgenderism. so the establishment and its left wing supporters are cornered now. they know america doesn't like joe biden. they know america doesn't like open borders and endless wars. they know america doesn't like the notion of treating key vowt judge just people as outcasts. so they're at risk now, democrats, of losing political power. and they will do anything they can to hold on to it. so we have to stand firm, we have to keep publicizing their double standards and we have to keep growing this coalition until it's so big that even the

left will be forced to back down. and that's the angle. joining me now is former 2024 g.o.p. presidential candidate vivek ramaswamy. vivek, it seems like everything is upside down in joe biden's america. >> look, i think that the battle line right now, laura, is we are in the middle of a war in this country between a majority us in this nation who love our country and our basic shared values and a fringe minority who has the democratic party in a showing hold who hate the united states of america and everything we stand for. and i do call it a war because they are weaponizing one element of our system after another, justice system, financial system, media, to advance their objectives. and conservatives need it wake up and say the left has been far ahead for a long time on frontier that conservatives haven't paid great care to protect. the justice system and the financial system amongst them. but i do think we are going to have to think over the longer run, not just the short run of this next election if we are

actually going to reclaim one standard of the rule of law in this country. one standard of maximizing value in the financial markets and the media while we are at it. >> laura: you have to get power back. you have to win elections in order to make changes. i think this election is absolutely critical to doing that. i your reaction, vivek, to what happened today when a mother in boston was asked about the consequences of what was the political decision made to close a recreation center used by a lot of, at risk kids and others. to house migrants and where those kids would end up going. watch this. >> probably to the streets, to the streets. where most of them are already at. you know, you know, like when we look for help, it seemed like the state and the governor and them people, they push us away. they want to turn our children to animals. we want better for our community. but this right here is gonna be

a [bleep] show. >> laura: vivek, i know a lot of republicans think well, there is no point in trying to go after some of these voting blocks of people who have been traditionally democrats. i completely disagree with that. i think african-american, many of them seem to be looking around and saying, wait a second. this is not what i bargained for. >> absolutely. in fact my campaign did i buck my advice of consultants to go to chicago. philadelphia and kensington. what i saw, laura, was widespread agreement on america first principles forget republican vs. democrat. the idea we should use our own resources in this country to protect our own border when they're converting south shore high school in the south side of chicago to encampment for migrants at $7,000 per migrant per month. that's offensive regardless of whether you are republican or democrat or black or white. and so i do see an opportunity. to say your point about the importance of winning this election, not only can we win

this election, i think we can win this in a land slight of historic margin like reagan did for the second term in 1984. i think trump can for his second term in 2024. to say that you know what? you will bring along a multi ethnic working class collision, man, woman, black, white, democrat and even republican. independents alike to say that a nation has borders. america first means all americans. not just the ones who agree with us on every other issue. and if we approach this that way, i think we will have historic landslide this november that dare i say it could unite this country. but it's up to us to step up and seize it, not just to hide from that. and to think the republican party has been proned to do for a long time. we have to show up. >> and i think that's the first step and if we do it we will be rewarded. >> laura: vivek, not accepting the political narrative of the left as gospel. a lot of times republicans will shrink the second they are attacked by the left. pbs just did that document dry

dry -- documentary exposing what was going on with how the january 6th production was created in the committee looking into january 6th. watch this. >> the one thing that we knew was the information that we have is compelling. the financithing we needed to dl that in a compelling way. that's why we brought in the former president of abc news. >> they wanted a story teller. and while they were brilliant, they were brilliant lawyers, story telling for a mass audience is not what they do. >> laura: they admit they brought in a, quote, story teller. yeah. >> straight out of the playbook is the reality george orwell would be ruling over in his grave to see them selecting figures from the media. they realized that's more powerful even though they are controlling levers in power in d.c. the thing they cared most, about laura, is the narrative that they wanted to drive. not just the selective

disclosure of the facts what did or didn't happen that day. the spin they put on it for the public to consume. it's up to us now, laura, not to just point to that problem and say it's a top down issue. part of the problem we as a people have become sheep. i think it's up to every american across the board to look ourselves in the mirror and say we are not going to swallow what we are force-fed. a nation of sheep does breed a government of wolves. yes, it is a job of political leaders to fix that government. but i think it's also the job of everybody who is watching this program right now. every citizen at home. >> laura: you bet. >> look themselves in the mirror and say not swallow what we are force fed either take both of those things to get our country back. >> laura: saw it covid and seeing it now. vivek always great to see you. thank you so much. >> new york's story has always been one of immigrants. our message to the world is send us your people, send us those who need the cloak of comfort that we can demonstrate as morningers with big hearts and open arms.

>> nypd tells me it's looking for more suspects after two officers were knocked down, kicked and punched right here in times square send them back. you don't touch our peace officers. you don't touch anybody. >> laura: now, do not for one second think that governor kathy hochul has seen the light on biden's migrant crisis. you know, she is really just reacting to the justified public fury about the migrant crime wave. because the fact is illegals have been committing heinous crimes in her state for years. remember this story from last september, a newly arrived venezuelan had been arrested and released six times for attacking bystanders and police officers. so, governor, migrants are rampaging through new york is nothing new. former trump acting ice director tom homan joins me now. tom, i know you know this story all too well. but, democrats claiming to finally get it, it's time to

deport people, give me a break. >> no, i don't believe a single word she says. her actions speak louder than words. if she meant what she said, then why does she have a state law that prevents ice from arresting illegal alien on the way to court in court or the way home from court? why does she have the green light law that prevents ice from getting access to new york state dmv data or criminal history data? as a matter of fact, every law enforcement agency in new york has to sign a promise that they share any of this data with ice or the border patrol, they lose their access to dmv data. so, you know, why is she asking for $2.8 billion to resettle illegal aliens in her state if she is really serious about this? finally, she just got a letter from the minority senate leader minority assembly leader to send national guard troops to help texas. >> if she really means what she says, there is four things she could do right now to take action. but, again, she don't mean what

she says. she is an open borders governor. she is open to staying up to illegal aliens. enticed them to come to new york. not only get a driver's license. they can get a job and protect from law enforcement because they are a sanctuary city. >> laura: someone should tell her that the voting for the academy awards i think is almost over. such an acting job today. it was pathetic. you are not going to be perhaps surprised by. this but fox's bill melugin is reporting tonight that the border patrol is saying that the del rio sector had a 76% decrease in apprehensions of illegals from december to january. and that's gone from one of the top two busiest spots on the border to one of the slowest in a matters of weeks. that's, of course, following texas' very much publicized increased enforcement across the river from mexico. who would have thought, tom, that, you know, razor wire and enforcement, you know, publicity about enforcement actually leads

to nor border security. >> and actually, mexico stepping up enforcement efforts in mexico. why is that? there must be election coming. they want to protect biden and make biden look better. enforcement action. move the numbers down and secretary mayorkas is going to play the shell game. rather between the port of disagree he is bring more through the port of agree and more through the airport. it's shell game. election coming. they want to prevent trump from becoming president again because trump would shut the cartels down. trump would shut the illegal immigration down on the border secure the border once again. and mexico doesn't want that they are making too much money at this either through the bribes or remittances going back to mexico. >> laura: are you surprised that 150 democrats voted against deportability for aliens who are caught doing -- caught with duis and other alcohol related offenses. 150 democrats voted against making that a deportable offense. >> over 10,000 people a year die

from dui. another disgusting example. open border advocates who don't want to hold illegal aliens accountable not only enter the country illegally a crime committing a enfelony and committing american citizen. 10,000 people a year die from duis but that's okay to the democratic party. >> laura: tom, thank you. you have to be the next homeland security secretary. great to see you. speak out and challenge the biden administration at your own risk. we have seen the lawfare campaign as i talked about in the angle against trump. and now the world's richest man, is he also a target, next. ♪ when barbara switched to turbotax... i broke four generations of family tradition with five little words... ma, i wanna make perfume!

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♪ >> mr. president, do you think elon musk is a threat to u.s. national security. >> i think that -- elon musk's cooperation and/or technical relationships with other countries is worthy of being looked at. that's all i'll say. >> laura: the man couldn't speak a year ago. even worse now. now i remember when the left and democrats thought elon musk was cool. remember those days? of course that was -- it he was

the electric car guy. the rocket guy. that was before he decided to protect free expression by buying twitter. then exposing with that the twitter files. so now democrats are really giving musk the trump treatment. a delaware judge voided his 5 # billion dollars tesla compensation package. judge kathleen mccormick's ruling criticized the package saying it was the largest potential compensation deal for executive of a publicly traded company, 250 times as large as median pier pay. and this must roll as a super star ceo with thick ties to the directors dominated the process that led to its approval. well, musk responded saying never incorporate your company in delaware. and what does this mean for future companies who may choose to incorporate elsewhere? joining me now mike davis, founder and president of the article iii project, former law clerk to justice gain of function research, he did take -justicegorsuch.

he traded juggernaut 120 up to $190 a share. a liberal judge can now dictate what shareholders and a corporate board say they approve. >> that's exactly right this tesla board hired elon musk in 2008 and it was all performance for his compensation. if he did not perform, if he did not deliver at very aggressive markers he did not get paid. here we are five years later, after he more than delivered, tesla is worth more than 10 times more than when elon musk started and this democrat's donor judge on this delaware business court rescinding this deal and taking away this compensation from elon musk. >> laura: you dig a little deeper with the judge, and you find that she owes her career,

mike, on the bench to democrat governor and long time biden friend john carney. he appointed her in 2018. she rose through the ranks in three years to head the court and in her first major case she sided with twitter and their case against musk. before all that, she was a partner at a law firm that consistently ranked as one of joe biden's top sources of campaign cash throughout his political career in delaware. so it's not shocking, i think, to a lot of people watching tonight, that this wild decision to void a compensation package comes from this particular judge. >> yeah, and when joe biden tells his justice department, his federal trade commission, his securities and exchange commission, his democrat donor judges back in delaware, when joe biden tells them to jump,

they say how high and they jump for president biden. and these democrats hate elon musk because he is actually delivering free speech to all americans. and democrats can't live in a regime where there is free speech. >> >> laura: this is what we said angle protect your friends and punish the enemies with the institutions that you dominate. that's their m.o., correct? >> they have shown that over and over and over. if they can do this to populist billionaires like donald trump and elon musk, just imagine what they can do to the rest of us. >> mike, thank you. and coming up, gavin newsom tries to pretend he doesn't understand why californians feel paralyzed by crime. and the left claims to know the real reason why so many stores are closing in high crime areas. victor davis hanson, larry elder weigh, in next. ♪

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policies that he supported and advocated for. this is purposeful ignorance and is he more smarmy by the day and i thought that was impossible for him to get for him. >> yeah, well most democrats have renounced prop 47 that reduced shoplifting to a mere misdemeanor if it was -- i shouldn't say shoplifting, theft. he is still endorses it, laura. no california politician is more responsible for the mess. >> he has been 27 years without a job in the private sector. board of supervisor of san francisco, mayor of san francisco. lt. governor of san francisco. california governor. straight 27 years, nobody is more responsible to what california has become than him. he knows that, too. and there is nothing he can say. it's going to -- go ahead. >> laura: i love how he says well, how does everyone else get to just walk you out with stuff

and i have to spend $380 is that just his hair care products? i'm not sure. governor newsom defended that prop 47 as you referenced turned these nonviolent crimes from felonies into misdemeanors. watch this. >> it seems like we just sort of created this narrative. everybody i know is rushing to reform prop 47 to raise the threshold, okay. that's not the fundamental issue. the issue is the other issues that are not 47-related. >> laura: victor, he can't get away from that tape, can he? >> no, he can't. there's a new bill out that prohibits a store employee as a type of person he encountered from stopping sheriff's department unless he has had special safety training which no small business could afford. de facto means that employee was not allowed, really, to stop that thief unless she had special, you know, training. and that's not going to happen. so she was right on when she identified him as a culprit.

three decades is too long to avoid any responsibility for what california turned into. he is the poster boy for what california is in 2024. >> laura: if we have to save california, i say that every time you are on victor, but i love that state. i'm still a member of the california bar. took the bar exam. i lived there for a while. we have to save it. people have to wake up. thank you, victor. when liberals aren't acting clueless about the crime crisis, they are crying racism. squad member ayanna pressley is blaming for closures. >> the closures are not arbitrary and they are not innocent. they are life-threatening acts of racial and economic discrimination. that is why i join with senator markey and warren to demand answers from walgreen's ceo. shame on you walgreen's. >> laura: shame on stores for actually wanting to make a profit. turns out the store has been

losing a ton of money and one customer said it needed a heck of a lot more security. former presidential candidate larry elder joins me now. larry, presley is an owed yus figure on the political scene for sure. do you think she believes what she is saying or is this more political theater to demonize those productive and elevate and lift up the thieves? >> oh, the race card. do not leave home without it. i have no idea what she really believes. i know this that area that she is complaining about has a crime rate that's twice the national average and by the way she says 85% of the people in that area are black and brown. well, 58% of the people in that area were black and brown whether they opened the store. and if she really feels bad about it. pass the hat. have your rich friends pitch in and build the store. and you operate it and you find out whether or not you can make a profit when people are stealing. it's the crime, stupid. it's the crime, stupid. it's the crime, stupid. that's what's going on here.

>> now, the saddest part, i think, of all of this, larry, is that democrats -- their own pro-criminal policies led to the conditions that forced this particular walgreen's to shutter, watch. >> defunding the police has to happen. we need to defund the police. >> yes, i support the defund movement. talking about the reduction of our nypd budget and defunding a $6 billion nypd budget. >> not only do we need to defund but we need to dismantle. >> laura: defund and dismantle. that's what c csi and walgreen's they're dismantling their stores and leaving. >> you can't make this up. she is part of that defund the police movement. when you make it easier for criminal to steal, make it unlikely a criminal is going to get caught, get convicted and incarcerated. crime will go up. they may be criminals but they are not stupid. she ought to look in the mirror. same woman who spent $60,000 a

couple years ago on her own private security while calling for the defunding of the police. she is concerned about her own public safety. own private safety, but walgreen's is not supposed to be concerned about the safety of their works and customers. absolute. turn out the race card and say they need to stay there and suffer. they would face legal liability if customers are hurt and workers are hurt because of the crime. >> laura: larry, it's always great to see you. thanks so much. what do real americans think of the migrant thugs giving them the finger? raymond arroyo reports from the scene of the attack, next. >> it's very sad and this is what i say. >> do you think -- do you blame president biden for this? >> i do. i do. >> why? >> because the wall was being built.

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couch. ♪ ♪ >> all right, president biden's looking to lay the blame for his border crisis at republicans' feet and sadly rinos in the senate are happy to help him do it. is it working? we sent raymond arroyo to the scene where the nypd officers were attacked by vicious migrants to ask real americans about who they think is responsible for this migrant mess. >> laura, it was in front of this building on 42nd street where two cops tried to break up a mob and they were assaulted by illegal aliens who are now out bail free. i decided to ask new yorkers what should be done and their reaction to the incident. do you blame president biden for this? >> i do. i do. >> why? >> because the wall was being built. they f'd up. >> we need to protect the border. we need to know who is here and i'm a die hard democrat and i'm

saying that. >> your thoughts on who is to blame for this migrant crisis we are seeing in the city? >> the government. do you know why the government is to blame? because they let them in. and only way they can get in is through the government. >> raymond: who do you blame specifically? >> joe biden. >> raymond: why? >> i blame joe biden because donald trump didn't let no migrants in. >> president biden. >> why? >> because he is -- the border is wide open. >> there is a guy named joe biden. is that who you blame? >> that's where everything started about four years ago. >> i blame the white house. they could do a heck of a lot more than what they are doing to close the border. >> raymond: the governor here says they should be deported particularly these guys who atangled the coming. do you support deporting these people. >> they don't have the credentials to be able to adapt into society, then deport them back to where they belong. >> they need to go back. they need to get deported. i mean, they are not here legally. >> we got to deport them and get rid of them. i don't know how to do it once they get in here. we have got a mess, don't we? >> deport it or stop allowing

them to come to our city and bringing their garbage over here. we don't need that we have our own system going on. people are in the shelter three or four years. not fair they got to leave once somebody else comes from somewhere else. >> raymond: 19-year-old venezuelans beating the cops. >> they belong deported and sit in jail in venezuela. >> laura: wow, raymond arroyo joins us now. raymond, what was your take away here? i mean, what didn't we see? >> well, i will tell you what you didn't see, some people were afraid to talk, laura, they told me they would like to say something they were worried about their jobs. they didn't want to say anything on camera. but there's a lot of fear and a lot of anger. this cuts across republicans, democrats that i spoke to. a lot of the pima video package, they are not republicans, but they were deeply upset by the way this is challenging and draining state and city resources. but the problem is hochul is saying one thing as you pointed out earlier in the show and she

is doing another. she is granting 4,000 state jobs, laura, to these illegal aliens. those are jobs that could go to american citizens and they are going to get the shaft people just arrived. that shelter, the place i'm standing in front of, that is a shelter on 42nd street. between madam tussauds' and where aladdin is playing on broadway. you don't have to buy a ticket to see a whole new world. it's right there on the street. it's fights and drug deals and things people haven't seen in decades on 42nd street. >> laura: now, raymond, you and i have talked about this off camera. but, other than the crime, which is terrible, and all that comes along with it, the drugs and all the things that donald trump warned about in 2015, he was totally right about it. also trash, which one of your interviewees referenced. they are bringing their trash. she actually meant physical trash. and you hear that from new yorkers. i see it all over northern

virginia maryland, d.c., tires, trash, mattresses, stuff you did not see in those areas even in suburbs. that's new as well with the migrants. >> you see mope heads all around delivering drugs and food and girls i'm today by some of the cops. this is all courtesy of the american taxpayer who are housing these people. and, in fact, new york state is incentivizing this by now giving them jobs and shelter. so that's the welcome mat, no matter what hochul is saying today about deporting these folks. new yorkers have one mind on this regardless of party. >> laura: raimondoraymond, thiss you said cuts across lines of ethnicity, parties background, age. people know that this is wrong and they are pissed, and i hate that word but they are pissed off? >> their community is falling apart. >> laura: raymond, excellent work. thank you so much. and a sports brand facing

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wow. they are doing some damage control with outraged customers protesting the brand after he used a biological male to promote women's surfing. the company made trans long border sochaux loehmann's in the face of women's surfing in an instagram post last week. >> it influenced my life. how is it not one of the only sports where we get to perform a

certain dance on the changing platform? it's a moving dance floor. >> this comes just months after she cut ties with bethany hamilton after she announced her own opposition to biological males competing in women's surfing events. pro server and shark attack survivor bethany hamilton joins me now. bethany, we have to get into the rick earle controversy. i've been a huge admirer of yours for so many years. you've overcome losing your arm and all the challenges that went along with that. what do you say to leading athletic organizations that feel compelled to permit biological men to compete in everything from surfing to swimming, cycling and even weightlifting? >> i feel like society is kind of losing its grip on the physical strength differences because it's very clear and it just seems so wrong and so

unfair. as a mother now of a daughter, i had a daughter last year, i have three boys and a girl, i want my daughter to have all the chances she can in whatever sport she may deal. she definitely motivates me to be like what the heck is going on here. >> bethany, let's talk about the reality of surfing and what you need to be excellent. a top, top surfer, the type of athleticism, balance, upper body strength and why do men and women in that arena differ? >> yeah, it's quite a bit of a big difference still and always will be, i think. you look at big wave surfing in particular. men can just paddle into the waves so much faster and so much stronger and so much more would just this beast mode approach. girls are pushing themselves and i'm so proud of this current generation.

there so many young girls shredding so hard and pushing female surfing. it is so cool to see and be part of. but that gap is never going to be completely bridged. it's a biological difference. >> we are women. rock our womanhood and let girls do their thing and let guys do their thing. you can admire both. but there has to be a line in the sand, you know? >> if a top 100 female surfers in the world, a high school surfer who is maybe not won any competitions who happens to be a strong young man, would he have the upper hand or the upper body to perhaps compete in those categories? >> yeah, well when the world surfing first announced allowing having male bodied athletes to compete against the females, my

first thought went to certain countries and the guys that maybe aren't quite good enough to make it on tour. they would come and dominate. it would be terrible. there so many incredible companies out there that are doing incredible things. their 75000 companies on public square that stand for american values. there is a movement and if you want to support this beautiful movement that has everything in order, so to say, and a little less insane check out public square. there is a book coming up that we are reading books to children at the library. my book is called and it's inspiring children to overcome their fears, to face this world with courage.

we don't have to be caught up in all the chaos, but we can go out there and live life beautifully and make a difference. >> bethany, you are incredibly gracious and so inspiring on so many levels. thank you so much. we really appreciate you. >> aloha. >> that's it for us tonight. do not forget to set your dvr so you always stay connected with us and make sure to follow me on social media. there is a fun little poll question on facebook. i want to see how you answer it. thank you for watching. remember it is america now and forever. jesse takes it from here. welcome to "jesse watters primetime". tonight. >> you may cut me but i will wrap this chain around your head. >> illegal aliens assaulting cops and flipping america the bird. where is mr. tough guy