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85-plus attacks that we launched yesterday in response to the killing of three americans and wounding 40 others almost a week ago. what we can tell you 85, four sites in syrias and three sites in iraq, and rocket storage facilities and began at 4 p.m. eastern time and sort of covering this, including the two b-1 bombers who flew halfway around the world. for the latest, here is trey yingst. >> overnight the united states struck 85 different targets in iraq and syria in response to that deadly drone attack last weekend that left three american service members dead. according to u.s. central command there were control centers and weapons storage facilities hit overnight some affiliated directly with iran's

revolutiony guard, with the quds forces and military. and john kirby saying this overnight. >> i want to repeat again what i said in my opening comments, these responses began tonight. they're not going to end tonight. so there will be additional responses, there will be additional action that we will t take. >> the biden administration is looking to send a message to iran and its proxies that attack on american sources won't be accepted. remember, this is a direct response to that attack last sunday that left three americans dead and injured dozens more. ahead of the american strikes that included 125 precision guided missions, and left them on the ground saying this. >> before, whenever they wanted to talk to iran like other countries they said military option is on the table. now you do not hear those words

anymore. they even say, we have no intention of any conflict with iran. >> u.s. secretary of defense lloyd austin indicated in a statement last night that president biden has approved other action against iran and its proxies. this could be posturing by the united states, but we do know the americans intend to keep the pressure very high on these organizations to ensure that there are less attacks on american forces in the middle east, neil. neil: trey, can i ask you hearing iran's take on this. is that their way of saying we don't think we have anything more to worry about? >> absolutely. and you've heard it this week from iranian president and from the foreign ministry and basically indicating they're in control of the situation. they want to send a message to the americans that despite this action, they will continue their efforts across the region and remember, what iran wants in all of this.

a broader regional war doesn't specifically serve iranian interests, but what does serve iranian interests is getting american forces out of the middle east and there are thousands of u.s. soldiers in iraq and syria and using this war on the ground between gaza and israel and hamas, as an excuse to ratchet up the pressure and more terms for americans, and the biden administration indicates they're not being pressured by the iranian regime, but as to who will be willing to go close to that redline and cross it in the possibility of a broader war. neil: it does seem like a moving red line at that. trey yingst in the middle of all of that and the repercussions of that in is israel. and the best selling author of war without rules. general, if i could pursue what i was touching on with trey.

the way this is being played, not universally, but largely by iran and its various surrogates and proxies, for example, another iranian-backed official downplayed u.s. strikes, that a lot of our key facilities were not hit as hard as they thought indicating a good many got out of harm's way and hinting at deescalation. what are we making of all of that? >> i think that we're going to see more u.s. servicemen killed in the region just because i don't think this is an attack -- these attacks are a different type than we did before so it's almost we're going to apply a stronger steroid to an auto immune problem and maybe see if we can get the flareup, but we're not attacking the heart of the issue. neil: the fact that we sent, you know, b-1 bombers halfway around the world to be part of this, to lead this, i guess, what do you make of that? >> well, we can do that day

after day. i think that the concerning part to me, you know, it's not a lot of risk to those guys that are launching those aircraft from, you know, in the united states and air refueling, going over, striking targets. we can do that day after day after day. i think the thing that's concerning me are the folks in the region that can come under attack by a drone like we saw. so if this is going to be our response, then why don't we just pull the troops out and let the air strikes continue. of course, it's going to cost a lot of money, but at least we don't have the risk of losing a soldier to a drone strike. >> you know, we talk about being leery of going inside eye rn and taking on iranian military in force. we seem to be focused on the revolutionary guards, the so-called quds force that are responsible for a lot of the overseas operations and trains and arms the military groups as i understand it. so what do you make of that and the distinction we are drawing

here? >> i'm actually kind of confused because they don't have a nuclear weapon yet, but we're treating them like a nuclear power. i'm not sure why iranian territory should be off limits to strikes and i think more appropriately we'd see a different outcome if we were willing to do that. so, we're treating them almost like they already have nuclear weapons by holding their territory off limits. neil: general, if we attacked inside iran, what do you think would happen? >> i think they'd stop their behavior for a while. they'd go back to it. but it needs to be followed up by a comprehensive strategy in the middle east as i've said before. we have to strangle the resources and unfortunately we're going to have to strangle the resources of the chinese because they benefit from what iran is doing. neil: so, the fear isn't search what iran would think or say, i guess, general, but what the world would say, you get this fear maybe that we've just crossed and touched the third rail, that it leads to a world war, that it leads to a

conflagration. it gets the chinese and the russians and literally a world war. when i talk to so many military types all over the world, that does seem to come through. not everyone buys that, general, i just wonder do you? >> i don't. the reason is we have a nuclear power in russia, a nuclear power in china and we have nuclear power in the united states. so i think that's going to keep things from escalating directly between those countries. we are going to see these proxy fights, but there's nothing preventing us from going after iran other than our own, you know, lack of pursuing our own interests. it doesn't matter what the world thinks. ultimately it matters what, you know, is right for the american, you know, u.s. government's interests, for our interests as a protect the american citizens overseas. and our soldiers and sailors and airmen and marines, our citizens overseas. so, we have to to the best we can if we're going to have them

engage in iraq and syria, we have to do the best we can to protect them from the iranian proxies. neil: i might have missed it studying for my show and my show yesterday, but i don't see as of yet any comment from the arab world, minus some of these iranian approximaties and iran itself nothing from saudi arabia, nothing from kuwait, nothing from qatar. i don't know what to make for that. i know in saudi arabia's case the loathing is real and palpable towards iran. what do you think of that? >> well, none of the arab countries, like iran, and the feeling is mutual. so i think for all of the arab countries, they like to see when iran's put in their place. unfortunately with these attacks we're not really putting iran

they're trying to, so we have to discourage those militias from doing that. i think these strikes help degrade their ability. the options for hitting iran need to be on the table. a couple of things that were missed in the previous comments, number one, what's going on in gaza, that drives a lot of this and what's going on in israel. what iran could do is they

could flip the switch and attack israel from lebanon and hezbollah could be a lot more aggressive about this and could blow up the region and jeopardize u.s. interests as well as israeli interests. i heard a previous guest, it doesn't matter what the world thinks, it matters a lot what the world thinks because the world is getting too cozy with iran, china, russia, between the brics countries, brazil, argentine they're pushing away from us, we don't have the same economic hold over as we should. this is a global effort that we're solved in here and looks like we're striking iran without thinking it through pushes iran in the hands of powerful partners and makes this whole thing a lot more difficult. neil: sounding like a republican, congressman. [laughter]. >> well, i don't know about that. neil: all right. >> it's a pretty broad

definition, but appreciate the-- >> i'm kidding. let me ask you, you mentioned congressman, attacking iran in iran should be among things on the table. don't want to misrepresent what you said. one of the things that strikes me, the biden administration seems to have made it clear it's not on the table and whether it's done to cool volatile heads, i get it. isn't it also telling your enemy, don't worry, should you leave your enemy guessing in theory? >> well, in the first place, the biden administration has not said that. in fact, when asked this question repeatedly and i saw that the press conference with john kirby, yeah, they said all options are on the table. now, others are presuming that that option is off the table, but nobody in the biden administration has said, yeah, no, we're not doing that. so-- >> well, i believe they did, sir, i'm looking for the quote here and i don't want to correct you, but they were fairly unequivocal about not going and taking that leap.

if i'm wrong, i'll certainly correct that. if they haven't, if they haven't, does that concern you? in other words, that that is an option, they're not considering? should they do the kind of thing, wow, the u.s. suddenly sent b-1 bombers all the way from the united states and those bombers are still hanging around, and leave them thinking, my gosh, it could happen? >> all i'm basing is on john kirby's press conference where he specifically said we're not taking options off the table. i agree with you, lest any democrats watching your show i've gone into too aggressive a mode here, we should attack iran, not at all, i'm just saying we shouldn't say that's off the table. neil: and switching gears, hearing a formal announcement from republicans adding mayorkas impeachment on monday,

obviously seems to be setting up up on monday. >> it's sad. i know they disagree with secretary mayorkas, it's focusing on exactly the wrong direction. what we should be doing is working on an agreement to strengthen border security. look, the border is a problem. the hundreds of thousands, millions of migrants pouring towards our border, we cannot accommodate them. we need a change in the law. we have an option to do that. republicans and democrats in the senate are negotiating to get that agreement. we need to get that agreement done, pass the law and not engage in hyper-political stunts like impeaching the homeland security secretary. it's sad. i wish the republicans would get to work on the policies. neil: congressman smith, good to see you again. >> thanks, neil, for the chance. neil: forgot about the

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puts it into perspective. in the month of december, 71,000 apprehensions in the del rio sector which includes eagle pass. the following month just under 17,000 apprehensions for the month of january. down 76%. now, part of the reason for that drop, texas governor greg abbott's limiting federal access to shelby park and the barriers and razor wire that the state has put up. but that's driving migrants to her historically less busy areas of the southern border, like el paso, texas. now, even states like california and arizona are now seeing more migrants trying to cross into the u.s. san diego recently had a boat land on its beach with a group of roughly eight migrants. the latest cvp figures last week more than 70% of apprehensions are now occurring in both arizona and california. one sheriff along arizona's southern border had this to say. >> we have a federal government that should be working arm in

arm to protect communities and americans and working along with sheriffs and mayors, and governors. but what i don't see, that's not happening and then to that recipe of commonsense is applied, this only going to get worse. >> now, we are expecting a relatively busy weekend at least here on the u.s. side of the southern border. today we're expecting a convoy of truckers, the take back our border convoy and then tomorrow, there's a group of about 15 governors who are from all over the country who are expecting to come here to eagle pass to get a sort of border security update and also show their support to texas governor greg abbott. neil. neil: jeff paul, thank you for all of that. i want to go right now to bill daley, former fbi investigators because he knows of what he speaks when it comes to dealing with criminals, the criminal act of going after and beating police officers in new york and the search for the four

migrants who are essentially released in two cases on their own recognizance. let's go to bill on that. bill, where do these guys go? we have a pretty good idea they're in california and appears to be it. they got away with something pretty big. >> yeah, absolutely, neil. in addition to these four, a ti total of 13 people are looking to be identified on the heinous acts at 42nd street, crossroads of the world. where they could be, i would call it an investigative rubik's cube. let's go back to the beginning you were speaking to the border talking about the reporter. and we don't know who the people are, all they do is give a proper name, fingerprints, if there's any encounter if they're stopped. other than at that we don't know who they are. for them to come back further into the heartland of our

country, they can use a different name, hop on a bus and obviously taking a plane might be more tricky because they may not have the original docume documentation, but lost into the heartland without them being on the grid, as i call it, it becomes very difficult to find them. neil: do you think we ever will? >> i mean, i think so. i think in this case because the notoriety of it, i think because of the various police agencies that are going to be working on it, they will. at this point we do have to say is that they're not expected back in court, i believe, until the first week in march about a month from now, so, i mean, could they be travelling and come back? if i'm a betting man, i know where my bet is going to land. what is the larger issue as well here, neil? we have millions of people in this country who are kind of floating around under perhaps their real name, perhaps not their real name. we have very little on them. we don't know their backgrounds. neil: scary. >> for them to be able to move

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>> voting underway in south carolina, it's the democratic primary going on there.

the republicans have their big primary pitting nikki haley against donald trump for all the marbles. she says that it's not everything. and we have marianne williamson. and pointed out long before robert f. kennedy, jr. was talking about taking on a fellow democrat and giant in his party and dean phillips not in the ballot in south carolina, and gavin newsom looking at a run. and she joins us out of nevada. good to have you back. >> oh, thank you, thank you for having me. neil: you must feel like rodney dangerfield sometimes like you're getting no respect. you've been there and you've been slugging it out, taking on the democratic establishment. they've been predictbly ignoring you. how does that feel? >> well, they've been more than

ignoring me. they've been belittling me. as soon as i announced the president's spokesperson on the podium belittled me. owes me an apology. i can take it, i'm a big deal, but it's an insult to every democratic voter, an insult interested this hearing other options other than which is is anointed the candidacy of the president anointed by the dnc. it's not okay with me not because it hurts my feeling, but this is not what the democrat party should be and not what our democracy should be. now, as far as respect is concerned, i feel self-respect and that's how a system like that works. once you lose all confidence in yourself particularly as a woman, i think, i feel self-respect and i know a lot of people respect the fact that i'm talking about the actual experience of the american people. we have 39% of american people who say that they're regularly skipping their meals in order

to pay their rent. we have had an of americans living paycheck to paycheck. we have americans who are struggling to make it and now with these retaliatory air strikes, we are provoking iran. so, actually i feel pretty good because i'm having the conversations that i think matter the most. neil: if you do keep those conversations going, marianne, but the white house points to the latest jobs report and continued improvement in the economy is proof that you're wrong. >> what i say to that, neil, you and i both know -- and i think they know as well -- for 20% of americans that that does include me, those of us who have made in the economy up to the top 20%, the economy is very good. what do they say to the fact that half of all renters cannot afford their rent. 70% of americans say they live with chronic economic anxiety. they're talking about economic data. i'm talking about human despair and as far as that jobs report is concerned, how many of those

jobs are jobs that somebody can support a family of four-- even two on, with just one of those jobs? remember in the 1970's-- >> well, actually average wages there, though, did go up. in fact, much further than we thought, in fact, now people are worried that if they went up so much the federal reserve might hold off on rate cuts. how do you feel about that? >> what i feel about that the federal reserve is thinking about that top 20% a whole lot more than it's thinking about the permanent underclass that exists in this country. we have an economic system-- when you look at the 1970's, we had a thriving middle class in this country. none much those economic data points point to the restoration of a middle class in this country. when you have the majority of americans who could not afford to absorb a $500 unexpected expenditure? no, things are not going well. you have the highest level of poverty, including child poverty, of course, of any

advanced nation and that's the point of this campaign. we refuse to serve a few at the expense of the many. that's not the visceral experience of the majority of americans. this idea that everything is rosie is not the experience of the majority of american people. my campaign is for them. neil: if it doesn't work out for you will you-- >> i will not do anything that i feel helps donald trump get back into the white house. neil: if there's a choice for joe biden and donald trump, and go back to joe biden and attacks you and people around him have humiliated them. >> neil, i'm a big girl, this is know the about being humiliated. this is about our country and i'm sure you share that with me. we're grown-ups here. yeah, they've treated me worse than i would have expected, but that's not what makes me cry, what makes me cry is to see

600,000 people who are homeless every night. what makes me cry is we're provoking iran right now. what makes me cry right now is what's happening to the people in gaza right now. what makes me cry are much bigger thing than my feelings getting hurt by the dnc. neil: you say you're a big girl, but you're thin and fit and-- >> what did you say. neil: i say you're a big girl, but you're actually thin and fit and maybe a metaphor there. [laughter]. very good seeing you. >> thank you for having me, i hope it's a beautiful day. neil: marianne williamson, democratic candidate. and we have the latest including the strikes and why certain points were targeted over others. what could be targeted now. and the silence that's deafening from the arab world itself after this.

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strikes. earlier you had trump's former defense secretary chris miller on your program. >> the iranians told their people to get away from the facilities. they're all kind of air bnb's taking time off. i don't think that's an effective response. i think we've got to follow up hard. >> a pair of cold war era b-1 supersonic bombers launched from texas to carry out strikes against iran's revolutionary guard forces and militias to avenge the deaths of three american soldiers. destroying 85 targets, according to u.s. central command. about two dozen people killed on the ground accord to go local reports. defense secretary lloyd austin says the goal was to destroy capability. and the strike eagles escorting the bombers engaged. in statement, president biden said, quote, our response began

today and will continue at times and places of our choosing. at the same time the b-1's were coming in iraq and syria, attacks continued in the red sea, super hornets from the deck of the u.s.s. eisenhower to shoot down the drones and two destories engaged. and here is congressman mike walsh on your program, neil. >> we want this to be success that we have to completely rethink the iran policy. the people enacting the policy, namely james sullivan and blinken were the same ones that put obama's policy in place. >> moments ago we've learned that president biden will be speaking soon from his campaign headquarters in wilmington. neil: indeed we're monitoring that, my friend. lucas, maybe settle this for me, i don't know where i read it and may be i'm wrong, if anyone would know, you would

know. has the president ruled out strikes in iran? i believe he has, but i could be very wrong. >> it didn't come from the president's lips, neil. but last night there was a call with john kirby and the head of the joint staff at the pentagon talking about the strikes, they all, but ruled out strikes in iran. this is going to be a focused attacks in iraq and syria against iran's proxy forces. it's know notable, that the revolutionary guard corps, not only in iraq and syria, but those with the iran quds forces and carrying out these attacks. neil: thank you. lucas tomlinson. we're monitoring the president and he may refer to the attacks last night. and the supreme court allied commander, the real mccoy. general, good to have you. would you, if you had such

decisions, include eye attacks in iran? >> neil, thanks for having me on. i think i would say it a little different than you. all roads start in iran and all roads lead back to iran and so, this is about changing iran's calculus. yes, i've heard our secretary talk about reducing capabilities and things, that is important, but what will count here is do we take the kinds of actions that changes iran's calculus on this as worth it. neil: you know, that's so well-- this is why you were and are military big deal. the way you frame that all roads lead to iran and out of iran. if i thought of it, brilliant, an excellent line. let me ask you if i could pursue that. the notion that iran thinks we're not going to touch that proverbial third rail and attack their interests or operations in iran.

and they're acting and speaking accordingly. what do you think of that? >> well, i think you're right to begin with. secondarily, when we think about these things, one of the axioms that we stick to is the idea of proportionality, what would be a proportionate responses. for example, the reconaissance, surveillance and intelligence shift that iran has been sailing in the red sea and other places to help target americans. that involves iran directly, this would be a proportionate response. so, there are targets that we could strike that are not on the iranian mainland, but they are proportionate and directly involved in this fight and that makes them an appropriate target. neil: so, i liken it to what

ronald reagan, half of the iranian navy without once going inside of iran. what about something like that? >> well, again, there are many targets. neil: sure. >> the navy, the oil infrastructure and other things that are not on the mainland that could be struck and would keep to the objection -- axiom that we're not attacking iran internally. this is what the president decides. the centcom commander, i can assure you, offered the president a range of strikes from these things that we've been doing, striking these places in the desert, up to very consequential targets for iran and it will just boil down to what the president's policy is. >> you know, your opinion carries weight and certainly with me, general, so i'd be curious what you think would happen if we did go into iran? >> well, let's take it in two

stages. if we were to strike those proportional targets that i talked about, i think that that would give iran pause and be not escalatory. if we strike into iran and we strike proportional targets that were involved in this intelligence, the transport of these missiles, all of the things that are associated with their attacks, i think that that would be received for what it is. now, if we went and started a full scale campaign against iran, that would be a different matter. neil: absolutely. well, general, i'm taking that line, a brilliant line all roads lead to iran and from iran and that would be a perfect way for the administration to frame whatever we do next, but thank you, sir, and thank you for your service. >> thank you. neil: all right, we are still waiting to hear from the president whether he mentions any of this in wilmington, delaware, we'll go there after this. ♪ voya ♪ there are some things that work better together.

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senate, and said i think you need some help. [laughter] >> this is back in 1990. no, i'm only joking. hey, john, how are you? 1972, and she said there's a guy named ted kaufman works for the phone company. ted, good to see you. [applause] >> one of my best friends in life and friend to my children and great to see you, buddy. or i should call you senator. he's the only guy when i said you've got to be senator he said, i don't want to be senator. [laughter] >> look, folks, you know, doug and kamala are here and i was hoping -- they came here and i'm leaving from here to their home in los angeles.

so you know, seems sort of backwards here. [laughter] >> well, look, i'm feeling good about where we are, i really am. you know, folks are starting to focus in and the guy we're running against, he is -- he's not for anything, he's against everything. and no, i mean it, it's the weirdest campaign i've ever been engaged in, it's even worse in terms of his behavior than the last time in 2020. and you know, kamala mentioned there's so much at stake and you all -- this crowd really knows me extremely well. they know me too well, don't tell everything you know, guys. but all kidding aside, they -- i meant what i said back when we announced the first time for president against this guy and we went up to-- up to independence hall and made a speech on democracy and

the president thought it was an exaggeration, but the american get it, the american people saw what's going on and this is a group of folks assembled in this room are going to be able to say, god willing, to help to save democracy i mean in the literal sense. by the way, as i go around the world which i do a lot heads of state because i know them so long and i'm engaged -- madeleine albright was right, america is the essential nation and look to us as my colleagues now. and every time i leave, not a joke, whether it's g20, g7, wherever they are, they'll pull me aside one at a time and say, you've got to win, you've got to win, you can't afford-- my country is at stake, meaning their country. so there's a lot the stake, folks, we have an enormous

obligation, but you know, i think it's time to finish the job here. i think it's time for us to-- [cheers and applause] >> if i don't stop talking i'm going to get the hook from jill, she's going to pull me off. folks, look, things are-- people are beginning to focus and they're beginning to focus and the polling data, everything is picking up across the board and new quinnipiac national poll has his beating him 50-44. our neighbors say in pennsylvania, 47-39 susquahanna. and another one in pennsylvania, 42-37. and by the way, in new hampshire we weren't on the ballot, couldn't campaign there, guess what? got 64% of the vote. [app

[applause] >> so, folks, i'm going to put all of this away and say, thank you, thank you, from the bottom of my heart. i look out there and i see, tom, great seeing you, pal. going to miss you, you're not getting away. you're not getting away and chris is there all the time for me and our soon to be senator, former congress person. your dad was incredible, by the way. [applause] >> and that woman behind you, that sister of yours, she ran my operation for a long time. she's the reason i was able to win the first time. but i look out and see so many of you, gov, you're the best because like me, you married way above your station. [applause] >> so, anyway, if i start naming everybody, i'll name everybody in here, including vince, vinny, how are you? good to see you, man. i haven't run a campaign without vince giving me hell and helping me win around the way. anyway, thank you, thank you, thank you.

we've got a lot to do and i think you all get along with me, we can't-- this is not just a campaign, this is more of a mission. we cannot, we cannot, we cannot lose this campaign for the good of the country. and i mean that from the bo the tom tomorrow-- from the bottom of my heart. not just me, for the country. and it's beginning to dawn on people as long i've got ronnie alvara hanging with me. anyway, thank you, thank you, thank you, you're the best in the world. i'll hang out with you, if i can. thank you, thank you. neil: all right, we were monitoring that in hopes that the president would refer to these attacks last night, 85 such attacks coordinated attacks, places like syria and iraq, he did not. he was talking, obviously, about donald trump and polls kind of cherry-picked the ones that looked better for him. he's trailing donald trump in

six out of the seven states, in the electoral votes in an a world of hurt and made reference in new hampshire, write-in candidate 64%, write-in candidate he's the sitting president of the united states and democrat ic candidate, some would say not much to brag about there. he did refer and has been pretty blunt in his references to donald trump in fact, calling him a sick f. donald trump has seized on that and is fund raising off of that with a president who had the nerve to call him a sick f. going to leave it at that. more after this. honey... honey. nyquil severe honey. powerful cold and flu relief with a dreamy honey taste nyquil honey,

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>> all right, the president had a field day zinging his predecessor, but something else could zing them if this georgia case falls apart.

the fulton county district attorney fani willis admitted to an affair with a prosecutor she chose to look into this. she says nothing untoward or illegal was going on and standing by keeping the case going. the trump legal folks are saying enough is enough. katie is following this and the other cases that may be delayed or maybe, i guess, katie denied. what do you think? >> the georgia case is definitely running into some issues for fani willis. it's never a good thing for a prosecutor to be in a defensive position and that's exactly where she's found herself at this point. there's going to be an official hearing by the judge to determine if she did have some sort of conflict of interest and what that means for the case because there are various remedies the justice could issue, potentially dismissing the case although there are lesser remedies. but at this point it's pending, but not looking good for ms. willis. neil: you and i were just chatting not too long ago about the other cases and a good shot

if one isn't dropped, there's a good shot that all could be delayed until after the election. i don't know how likely that is but explain. >> well, all of these cases are on their own trajectory, but they all have issues that are presenting that seem to be getting in the way of them going to trial before the election and again, i think that it was really optimistic to think that they could all go to trial and get to a full verdict before the election. there are many things that come up in the course of the investigation and ultimately a criminal defendant has a speedy trial and if they need more time for preparation, certainly that's granted in many cases. and what would that mean for donald trump? >> with the federal cases if donald trump is elected he will get rid of the federal cases and that's pretty much a foregone conclusion at this point. there's a question about the georgia prosecution because it's a state case.

the president cannot cancel a state prosecution, but there are issues related to that case that the supreme court is going to be looking at that could certainly impact that and may even get to the point where that case can no longer proceed because of immunity issues essentially. neil: or that it's dropped because of the whole fani willis? >> that's another big consideration for sure. neil: i know you're a great lawyer, but it looks like donald trump is a pretty astute politician because he has scored off of the cases. even the president calling him a sick f. i've got to watch keeping repeating this because i know what i'll say and i'll be in trouble and my boss would say, neil, did you say that. anyway, donald trump is apparently fund raising after of that, the sick f comment. he can fund raise off of any of that stuff. what do you make of that. >> i think he's capitalizing on the fa kt that the deep state is going after him very hard and i think a lot of americans see that. these prosecutions are

unprecedented to a large degree. a lot of the statutes they're using to go after him they've never before been seen in this setting and a lot of people are dubious on the allegations and obviously reflecting in the polls. neil: got it. katie thank you very much. a former federal prosecutor i'm glad i'm done with that, if i had repeated sick f one more time, the lawyers would be calling. anyway, griff jenkins coming up along with anita vogel. and 85 sites, and intrigued me yesterday when i was reporting on it. many in the arab world, particularly saudi arabia, where iran is universally loathe. so far everyone keeping a distance from this and even iranian friends and proxies are saying we're confident this ends and so they hope. fox continues. >> more retaliatory strike