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>> harris: happy monday, this is "outnumbered," i'm harris faulkner here with my co-host emily compagno and kayleigh mcenany. federalist editor-in-chief mollie hemingway is here. and fox news national correspondent, griff jenkins, who just sent down the brand new border bill and the whole couch -- >> it is huge. >> harris: we'll get into that. here is what some are calling it on capitol hill, dead on arrival, that is house speaker mike johnson saying about the deal. negotiator say it addresses our broken immigration system, however, critics are going after it. they claim it would let 5000 people into the country per day before anything is done. actually the number is higher and we'll myth bust that. that would be 1.8 million people

per year. whether they are here to stay, whether they are trying to get in on asylum, they are coming in. aishah hasnie is live on capitol hill. >> this bill is fighting for its life right now, it's a numbers problem, especially in the senate. not just house opossessing it, we have not seen other republicans in support of this. lukewarm reaction among republican leadership and there is a problem for leader chuck schumer, he doesn't have all democrats on board. bobby menendez is a big no. nrsc cheer dans is in leadership and came out as a hard no, big blow for this bill. what is inside the text? border policy will spend $20

billion to increase security and ends catch and release and extending capacity for the family, it extends asylum, work permits and $650 million to expand border wall and mandatory shutdown when we get 5000 in a single week. that is the part a lot of republicans are stuck on and says the president has authority to shut down the border right now. >> congress trying to tell the people or buying into biden's argument he needed congress to solve the problem. if we pass this deal, it will say yeah, look, we needed congress to help the biden solve this problem. that is false. that is an absolute lie.

>> senate majority lead er will start to look at this, will he allow amendments? can republicans add any border policy to make them feel better or will he try to jam this through and hit the house and make them reconcile what is in this? harris. >> harris: what you said moments ago and we've been covering about the vote and who is behind this document after we waited three days. it was late, supposed to come out on friday. thank you for reporting. what i want to point out, inside the bill $60 billion in ukraine aid. 14 billion for israel, 10 billion in humanitarian aid. 5 billion for indo-pacific partners, that leaves 20 billion for the borders, both north and

south. that is not a border bill. >> griff: i've spent so much time in the last three years covering the border and in talking to all of the agents from rank and file up to the senior leadership, they are not happy with this. and any agent will tell you, sure, we'd love more money. what we need beyond money, manpower, technology, we need policy to change and walk back the way we got into this problem. this administration favored catch-and-release process that had no consequences. when you hear members of congress talk about there are laws on the books, title 8 usc 1325 makes it a felony to cross the border. now you're in a situation where one early this morning before 5:00 a.m., my phone was dinging and agents are getting up at

4:30. this seems to send a message to the world that says come on down, we're letting in 4999 per day. senator lankford argues there is a lot of good stuff and that is being misinterpreted. you see language like that and worry why didn't it address things like actual laws on the book and move to remain in mexico policy, which makes everyone who wants to claim asylum. you can walk any time of the day to a legal port of entry and claim asylum and you may or may not get past the initial interview. being paroled into the u.s. is a new problem the country had that began under this administration and that fundamental part of the crisis is what every border

official is saying needs to change. if you think the cartels won't find another way to exploit it -- >> harris: i'm sure they are already on it. >> griff: think again. >> harris: they know we'll have to do something evenually, maybe under a republican president. change has to be coming even if this the democrats put out. it is it is numbers game that is disingenuous. they are stuck on the 5000 number. i'm stuck on the 8500. your average will be lower, this is a shell game. the cartels already know this. >> kayleigh: the cartelses gaming the system, interesting point. bottom line, we have derelict

lawless president, you have nationality act that president is choosing not to enforce. a president who decided to light the bill on fire. in his first three days, 94 executive actions to roll away trump policies. we are here because we have a president who does not care and enablies people coming across the border and enables cartels and human traffickers, that is the problem, not lack of a bill. this is requirement on lawless president. that part is true. we have a president who disregards the law and cuts down razor wire in texas. the executive joe biden, you don't fix the problem. >> harris: kat cammack had this to say about the bill. this is a ukraine package, aid

for palestinians package. this is assistant to arab partner package, not border security. this is way to parole people into the united states faster. you are not securing the border, do not lie to american people and schedule them on that. they are pissed. >> mollie: it is interesting to hear kat cammack talk like this, there is extreme anger about republican participation in this border package. you saw joe biden said pass this bill, chuck schumer said this is a great deal. alejandro mayorkas says this is a great bill. what were republicans having to do with this? chuck schumer said he never worked so closely on any piece of legislation with mcconnell as this package and it shows. it does give $60 billion to

ukraine. mcconnell said that is most important for republican voters. republican voters have shown why he is the least popular politician in this country. it is a watershed moment, they have mcconnell, supposed to be good at negotiating stuff. he puts lankford in, who gets rolled and you see dane saying this is disaster for republicans. it doesn't make sense to participate in this, you are seeing it dead on arrival before it reaches the house. >> emily: kitchen sink element is obvious. "washington post" is saying this is most comprehensive reform passed in decades. it happened just a couple months before the presidential election. having that headline put forth

and checked. i want viewers to understand, first point it moves asylum claim decision away from immigration judges and into the hands of asylum claim officers. >> bureaucratis. creek exactly. second message, think if you were getting heart surgery and you want your heart in hands of experienced heart surgeon. if there is a bomb that goes off, we just need hands to triage and stop the bleeding. what used to be credible and sacred system in this country, immigration, concept people take immigration so seriously and we did, too. now we just need hands, you step in. >> griff: good point, can i weigh in on that? first interview i did with alejandro mayorkas, he was director of u.s. cis. you are taking decisions on

adjudicating claims away from judges and ice prosecutor and putting in the hands of a uscic person. this is on camera. how do people feel about those that skip the line? he said, they are very angry. and it is just interesting change in the way, the public views these things. >> harris: i want to get donald trump's voice in here, he spoke with maria about who is coming across, let's watch together. >> deport a lot of them, it is not sustainable and now look, these countries are smart, i know every leader for the most part, the presidents, dictators, i know them all, kings, queens,

i know them all. these are smart people, street wise people. it makes sense sending them to the u.s., african and china, all over the world. china 28,000 people in last few months, mostly all men from age of 18 to 25. what is that all about? >> harris: what is interesting about what the president is saying, if this bill were to pass in any form, you and i know it would take years to put asylum process together. years. why is it not being talked about and what have you heard about stopping it now? maybe a year, maybe 90 days. democrats wouldn't entertain the idea it was dead on arrival. >> griff: we don't have mechanism to --

>> harris: why do they think they can shut down the bill when they reach 8500? >> griff: there are concerns from officials as soon as this were to get passed if it were, you would have pro-migrant groups sue to stop implementation. >> harris: boy, this will continue. they have not even gotten to the point to negotiate in the house in that happens. >> harris: new polls show former president trump is scoring big and biggest lead as trump name drops who he could choose as his running mate. there are two names he mentioned. with new tylenol precise.

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>> kayleigh: stunning poll numbers for president biden as trump jumps ahead. president biden is losing to trump by 5 points and biden is getsing smoked in almost every issue concerning americans. on the border trump trumps biden by 35 points and trump is ahead 21 points on dealing with crime. there is more. registered voters think trump is twice as physically and mentally capable to serve as president over biden and biden is trying to flip the script and doesn't appear to be working. most alarming numbers for biden is this one. voters were asked, are you voting for joe biden or against

donald trump? 31% say for joe biden. 62% want biden voting against trump. 57% of trump voters are voting because we like trump and 35% say against biden. i rather be the base that says i'm voting for you come rain or shine. >> emily: it is the number you can't -- joe biden is getting smoked in every category. positive was look, democrats would be insane not to put someone else in for them and all they are relying on is hoping inflation keeps getting better and law fare war against trump hoping he will be disqualified and supporting a manufactured

machine to do so. the reader comment said abortion, abortion, abortion. when will republicans learn that border will be the biggest issue. white progressive college educated suburban women are never giving up on abortion. looks for talk about reproductive freedom, abortion care and women's care. freedom, care and health, who would be against those things? >> kayleigh: that is their argument. historical comparison is interesting, 31% who say we're voting for joe because we like joe. with hillary, it is 49% and she lost the election. flip to obama and good

comparison, 72% said we're voting for obama because we like obama. this is alarm bells. >> mollie: seems like trump has a more positive message, if you like having a good economy and want the border taken care of, if you want war not breaking out all over the world, vote for trump. if you are obsessed with hatred for one person, vote for me, harder thing to do. four years ago, joe biden was opposite, if you were sad about how covid was going or thought everything was chaotic or bad, vote for joe biden. his promise, he would be confident and get the economy back on track. he was an unknown figure. you have four years where you judge how joe biden's presidency has gone and judge how it was under trump and it is not a

favorable comparison for biden. grover cleveland won office and then lost and won again running against harrison. that something we don't encounter a lot. >> kayleigh: everyone is fascinated who donald trump's vice presidential pick will be. watch. he gave clues. when will you announce who your vp is? >> you have not decided who it is? >> i have a lot of good ideas. >> you haven't told that person, you're my person? >> i speak to every person. i called tim scott, a lot of people like tim scott. i said you are a better candidate for me than for yourself. >> maybe it is tim scott? >> could be a lot of people, kristi noem has been incredible fighting for me.

>> kayleigh: keeping us guessing. >> harris: put that 62% number on the big wall. i think this plays into it and abortion conversation is part of it. i would like to be the guy with biggest number, 62% voting against the other guy. rather vote for trump than against biden. who your vice presidential pick is can help you. how do you get women? you know somebody who can talk about abortion, that people will listen to, maybe senator tim scott, maybe nikki haley. we don't know. maybe that is a governor desantis. he does have his pick. that is the number i'm watching, biggest number on the board and how to get into the category where 57% say we want trump.

i think you can some are independents. >> kayleigh: well said. when i look at vp, that is what i look at. another name i would add is glenn youngkin plus 24%. trump is only behind in virginia by three points, guy that could flip the state. >> griff: in a case where glenn youngkin won largely because he put control of parent's children back in the hands of parents. and now just add one last thing, remember david axelrod said the polls are for real. remember when peter doocy asked the president and he said, you are reading the wrong polls. this is nbc news poll, if you go back to 2018, worst head-to-head

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50 cent saying call me, president biden. texas governor greg abbott slammed the move. >> new york will spend 53 million to come up with prepaid credit cards for illegal migrants, what is behind this? why do they need prepaid credit cards? >> it sounds like insanity it behind it. it is offensive. maybe the most irreprehensible thing i've seen. >> emily: >> imagine you are a single mom in this country and you are working two jobs and barely have time to see your children. you are desperately trying to afford diapers and formula as harvard says, one in two

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can get across the border and be released and you will have a credit card to buy things you need. that is why they are coming. >> harris: yeah, i don't think that is the focus. we all have a heart for people like that in those positions. focus is on the politician willing to do this who might be afraid he won't get re-elected. he is same man willing to let illegals vote in his story. pay them to do that. he made a campaign promise, he better pay somebody. this is same man who was angry at the white house and begging for federal dollars when numbers were lower of illegal immigrants in the sanctuary city. it is not for them, it is for him. >> griff: interesting to see if

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she claims people love her. >> what is the biggest misconception out there? >> let me tell you this. i believe when i look at an audience like hundreds in san jose who know my work as elected and re-elected district attorney of san francisco, first woman ever. people who know my work are incredibly supportive, understanding work i do now as vice president is the foundation of that work is yearings and years of working on issues, i feel good about it. >> kayleigh: she feels good. talk about people supportive of her work. nbc asked and here is what they found, views of kamala harris positive, 10%. 18% somewhat positive and only 16% neutral.

>> harris: wow. i would say her throwing in her gender as a reason to love her or support her, seemed odd to me. she is vice president of the united states, he sheen come up with things she's done to affect people's lives? doesn't she have a cause? we know she is not into the border. what is she into that she could say, i deserve 2028. by the way, i am a woman. you didn't achieve that. your parents did. it is word salad as anything i have heard her say. not one good thing she can say about herself she did. her parents coming together and creating the woman she is. god bless them, she did not give them credit. >> kayleigh: senator butler

thinks she has identified the problem with harris. she said frantic nature of the election provide limited opportunity for mrs. harris to form bond with voters. i don't think lack of national introduction is the problem. >> griff: remember there were stories about staff turnover and her fighting with the oval office, they were putting her in a position where she would not shine and handing her the border czar position has not helped her, voting rights and other major issues are not accomplishments i think anyone will say stand out and look at the poll numbers, that poll was telling. the fact across same period of time, she is among the lowest

behind pence, behind dick cheney or gore. i think the injury is out on that. >> we talked about this. "the view" showed how she did a heel turn trying to appeal to progressives trying to deploy her with specific messaging to your point on abortion. >> emily: absolutely, she continues to tout as accomplished in some way without backing it up with statistics or anything other than meaningless babble. harris, if anything, she should thank joe biden for selecting her as his running mate, that is who would get the accolades for installing the first woman vice president. she says those who know my work support me most. remember polls in the beginning

bay area had lowest approval ratings for her. those are people that dislike her most and have the lowest approval. she shares the same donor poll, she is a product of california. 5 to 10 big california democratic families, if she's eyeing 2028, high him first. >> kayleigh: pete buttigieg and gavin newsom will have to bring her down. >> mollie: i want the confidence of kamala harris, she's done such a bad job as vice president and she can run for president, admirable and sweet, what is happen nothing your world where you think this is possible? she ran in 2020 and did not goat a single delegate. >> harris: hair flip. >> mollie: she has not performed

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♪ >> emily: chapman earned an ovation after her first performance in nine years and sent "fast car" up to number one on itunes. last year the media tried to imply combs version of the song was racist. when that collaboration cover came out, i saw it and saw it as homage to tracey and no less than that. >> griff: you love muscle cars, i was high school senior with convertible mustang blaring that song riding around and it reminded me, took me back. the reason the nation loved that, it did unite us.

something politicians cannot do and reminded me of a time we didn't just go to a 10 over everything and that is environment we lived in now and back then we did not do that. i think there was not only positive moment of unity, for those it took us back. >> "washington post" claimed it was racist to cover tracey chapman's song and do well with it like luke combs did. this shows they know nothing. this is making her a lot of money, too. that is a beautiful song, the lyrics and tune is beautiful. chapman is amazing and reminder of what music really is. that was acoustic and real people doing real instruments and sometimes songs are overproduced and that was a

beautiful, clear song. >> harris: you are talking about a collab. we used to be able to collab, we are old enough to remember that song bringing us together. what critics miss is our potential as america. they don't see us for who we are, we are so, so powerful in our love for each other. we'll snap back and it won't take politicians pushing us there, that is who we are. it may take tracey chapman and luke combs. >> emily: the power of americans and love, knee-jerk reaction is not complicated hate. everyone loved it and everyone loves tracey and loves luke. >> kayleigh: here is what luke combs did, i didn't know the

song. luke combs sing it, i know the song and love it. now know tracey chapman, he introduced this song to millennials and passing it down. terrible take by the "washington post," we have come to expect that. >> emily: that show that takes place in the '80s, "stranger things," they had 80 songs. it enjoyed resurgence and it allowed and enabled many people who would not have encountered it to love it and know it. >> kayleigh: she loved it, she praised him, just manufactured controversy. >> harris: they were great together. i hope they do more music together. >> emily: i hope so, too. all right, guys, more "outnumbered" in a moment chltsz

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