around and i don't think it hurt him one bit. >> >> bret: in 10 seconds here, gillian, even fighting for something he wants, ukraine aid, it's not happening a lot. >> huge missed opportunity cost. you might -- maybe you want to skip the debates. there is no reason to skip interviews. i think it's a big mistake. huge, huge mistake. >> bret: panel? huge. panel, thanks so much. i appreciate it border patrol, middle east and the earn it act. we'll talk about all of that with our guest, senators lindsey graham and richard blumenthal. both sides of the aisle. if you can't catch us live, set your dvr 6:00 p.m. in the east. 3:00 p.m. on the west coast. thank you for inviting us into your home tonight. that's it for this "special report," fair, balanced and still unafraid. "the ingraham angle" is now. ♪ >> laura: good evening, everyone. i'm laura ingraham there is "the

ingraham angle" thank you so much for joining me in moments my exclusive interview with the man of the moment speaker mike johnson who says the border bill is dead on arrival in the house. but, first, no, no, hell no. that's the focus of tonight's angle. we knew that it was finally released after being kept hidden from the public for months that the schumer mcconnell border insecurity bill would be bad, but even we didn't realize how bad. now, just last week we -- he was assuring critics, including the angle that what was leaks out about the bill were just internet rumors. including that the bill would permit up to 5,000 migrants per day into the country then senator lankford said this. >> this authority is a 5,000 authority to say if you get to 5,000, which we have been there every single day except for seven in the last four months, that it completely closes the border down.

>> laura: wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. i thought that the 5,000 migrants could come, in welcome that, that trigger was just an internet rumor. i mean, how long ago did we do that on the angle? two weeks ago? three weeks ago? if the first place, given the damage and strain biden has already inflicted on all of you in america with the millions of migrants that have been allowed in, we shouldn't be allowing even one migrant in to the country, let alone 5,000 encounters a day. it's a joke. second, just so everyone understands, this under the supposedly tough as nails legislation, the border is never closed. even if you do think mayorkas could ever be trusted to oversee things and track the numbers. now, you don't need to take my word for it. because that's exactly what one of the architects of the bill, senator chris murphy said. the president and the border patrol still retain broad discretionary powers to wave people in. including thousands at a time. and unaccompanied minors don't

even count toward that 5,000 flesh hold number. so the entire bill is a travesty. and if lankford hadn't just been reelected in 2022 he never would be championing it. i promise you that here are some of the key reasons to hate the bills from red state and lawyers at america first legal. first, all migrant families must be released from custody. second, only single individuals can be deported. third, emergency powers don't effect ports of entry that still, get this, must allow a minimum, a minimum of 1400 migrants a day. now, there are 30 ports of entry in the united states. that equals 42,000 migrants a month. or, wait for it. 504,000 migrants a year. now, the emergency can be ignored if the president decides it's not in our national interest. the biden team retains power to

opt out of all limits on migrant numbers. because there are broad humanitarian exceptions. mayorkas has unilateral authority to grant final asylum for individuals, which equals a rapid path to citizenship. a lot of americans don't understand that but, when you get asylum, that's a path to citizenship. and there's a broad exception to emergency provisions, again, that everyone is touting today, based on the kyoto tattle of circumstances test. that's broad enough to drive a truck through. and anyone who claims that fear of persecution or torture, they are just reading it from a laminated card when they cross the border is not deported, but, again, instead, they go through arduous administrative process so they will be tied up in that for a while. this also codifies the controversial biden rule that allows these far left asylum officers, not immigration judges, to rule on individual asylum claims. oh, just for good measure it gives them a 15% raise as well.

it also includes $1.4 billion directed to providing shelters and immigration services. 36 million to hire lawyers for some illegals, finally, there's the automatic conditional permanent resident status for migrants who entered after july 2021. in other words, this is a grab bag of goodies for the open borders caucus. for every provision that sounds like enforcement, there's a way around it during the implementation. but, wait a second, laura. this is a real compromise. i heard this all day long. that's all coming from the uniparty. do you know what i say to that? whereby's the compromise, exactly? because they get $60 billion, that they wanted for ukraine. everything that they wanted. but conservatives that have cared about the border for years, decades, they get a bill that gives them nothing that they wanted on the border and, in fact, it would tie president

trump's hands if, in fact, he wins in november. and all you need to know and i saw this yesterday. is that pro-amnesty connecticut senator chris murphy is thrilled about this legislation. he areassures the left that the emergency power to shut the border down is weak, tweeting that it has important checks on that power. it can only be used for a limited number of days per year. it sun sets in three years. emergency cases that show up in between the ports still need to be accepted. the ports must process as i said before a minimum of 1400 claims, meaning people a day. let that sink in again. a minimum of 1400 a day at 30 ports of entry. people say well, maybe lankford and schumer don't really know what's in the bill or mcconnell doesn't really know what's in the bill. he is just overseeing. they know exactly what they are doing here. they thought that they could drop the text of this phony bill

on sunday, then, as you have seen today, start their media blitz before they force a vote on this on wednesday. and then they thought that either squeak it through or that at least help biden and hurt trump. clean-up is a shared goal of 90% of the uniparty. >> i am proud -- leader mcconnell and i, who disagree on many issues, have never worked so closely together on legislation as we did on this. because we both realize the gravity of the situation and how important passage of this legislation is. >> laura: ha ha ha. wait a second. schumer now understands the gravity of the situation? where has he been? almost sounds like is he calling the border a crisis. after democrats four years denied it. actually attacked us for calling it a crisis. now, in late 2022, after millions had already flooded america, schumer was not using the word crisis. and didn't sound upset at all

about the border crossers. in fact, for schumer, it was the opposite. >> we have a population that is not reproducing its -- on its own with the same level that it used to. the only way we are going to have a great future in america is if we welcome and embrace immigrants, the dreamers and all of them because our ultimate goal is to help the dreamers but get a path for citizenship for all 11 million or how many undocumented there are here. [applause] >> laura: path to citizenship is the goal. the key is they want the votes. and, remember that weasel words you heard there immigrants or however many there are here. now, remember, there can never be enough migrants to make the uniparty happy, which is why the mcconnell crew refused to work with speaker johnson to pass hr 2 which was that house bill which actually is tough and actually very clear on enforcement. so the bad faith on the part of

the bill's republican supporters is so egregious that none of them should ever work in politics again. i know that sounds harsh, but it's the way it needs to go. this bill does not make the border secure. in fact, it assures that the border remains open and massively increases number of visas and work permits allotted for families of illegals and current h 1 visa holders. we think about what we need in the country today. we need more foreign workers when wages are still not keeping up with high costs? and more companies are announcing layoffs, aren't they? if you want to understand why donald trump remains the dominating force in american politics, remember that what you're seeing play out in the senate right now is what he has always warned about. the damage inflicted when a bipartisan establishment is unchecked and allowed a free hand to plot against the interest and wishes of the voters. that must end with this bill.

time to retire mcconnell and everyone who attempts to perpetuate this fraud on the american public. and that's the angle. joining us now i'm delighted he is with us, speaker of the house mike johnson. mr. speaker, thank you so much for being here. you said that this bill is dead on arrival in the house. here's how senator lankford reacted to your comments on "fox & friends." watch. >> unfortunate that he would step out and be able to say that right away before obviously he had a chance to be able to read it as well and be able to go through it. now we have got to determine are we going to complain about things or address and change as many things as we can? >> mr. speaker, you know nothing about what's in the bill 12 hours or 15 hours after it passed? >> we did read through it, laura. it did not take long to realize that this is dead on arrival. there's no way we could bring this through the house. the senate expects us to pass a bill, a he is pooh of legislation that you just did a great job dismantling here. what it would do is actually

further incentivize illegal immigration it. would not resolve any of the problems. not reform in any meaningful way the broken asylum system. the broken parole process and all the things that have created this catastrophe. and, by the way, meanwhile, it further empowers the very cabinet secretary who designed and created this mess. they don't follow federal law. why would we do this anyway? but the bill itself would actually do more harm than good and that's why we have said it's a nonstarter over here in the house. >> laura: senator shuman, you are very popular these days. he also had a message for you. watch. >> i sty speaker johnson, don't let the 30 hard right people in the house, who are extreme, they wanted us to default. they wanted the government not to pay its debts. they will wanted us, um, the government to shut down, they are extremists. and they are running your show. do the right thing. >> laura: do the right thing because it's good to give waiver discretion to biden and mayorkas so they can just waive the

emergency any time they feel like it. >> here is my message to senator schumer. the american people are running the show here. we are the representatives of our constituents. the american people are on our side. they recognize this catastrophe has been disastrous for the country. every state is a border state. and everybody knows it. everybody traveling the country, laura, since i have been speaker of the house. 15 states doing events. doesn't matter out in the west. midwest, long island, the deep south, south florida the message is the same. number one issue on the hearts and minds of the american people. we have to solve this crisis. i'm going do make this point again because senator schumer isn't listening, apparently, the president of the united states has the authority right now to fix this crisis. he has broad executive authority under the federal statutes and chuck schumer knows it and president biden knows it. and he refuses to use that they could stop this, they could stop the flow immediately. they don't want to, laura. i think you alluded to a few moments ago exactly why that is. >> laura: mr. speaker, axios reported that if the senate

manages to pass this sweeping national security package and the house passes the israel only bill, they could head to what is called a conference committee in an attempt to reconcile the differences according to one house republican and translation here for people watching mcconnell could try to get open borders measure through a conference committee. how would you prevent that maneuver from happening? >> we're going to use every tool in our arsenal to ensure that does not happen and, by the way, in the last half hour, president biden came out and said that he would actually veto the legislation, the clean funding bill to help our ally israel in its time of greatest need. israel is at war. they are fighting for their very existence. and the president has our troops in harm's way now because of the deterrence effort against iran. and he is suggesting that he would not send the funding to abandon our ally right now? that is outrageous. i mean, everybody who is watching this is scratching their heads wondering how in the

world we have gotten into this situation. this president is projecting weakness on the world stage. is he not willing to fix the greatest crisis facing our country, which is the open border. they have just shown a staggering level of leadership that i think the american people are going to let their voices heard at the lack of leadership. they are going to let their voices heard at the election cycle. that is why his polling is so low. the people see what is happening here. >> laura: why do you think that lankford and schumer and mcconnell and all of them, why don't they go back to their home towns in their states and have town halls on this, mr. speaker? what do you think the people would say? go through the specifics, how many beam still be able to come, in the thresholds, the discretion, all of that, and let the people voice their opinions? do you expect that to happen? >> can i tell you what would nap a town hall anywhere in the country right now. people know the numbers. the official number, of course, is over 7 million people have been encountered at the border. over 2 million got-aways that are known, you know, over 300

people on the terrorist watch list that have been allowed into the country or stopped there. but we don't know how many people have actually come over. we don't know what terrorist cells are set up around the country. fentanyl is a leading cause of death for americans 18 to 49. >> laura: they say this solves that, mr. speaker. they want to sell this political message to try to undercut trump and hurt you that this is going to be solved or seriously ameliorated, the crisis, because of this -- they all have to come through the ports of entry now and all the other provisions i went through. and your response? >> well, you have done a good job explaining the real details of what this actually would accomplish. and in our view, it's an immigration bill. not a border security bill. we have to secure that border. we have an obligation to do it. it's an moral obligation, it's a legal and constitutional obligation. the white house has done this by design. they intentionally enacted these policies, remember, we documented over 64 incidents where the president himself and his agencies have used executive authority to create the current

situation. to create the situation and catastrophe. he could unwind those now stroke of a pen. president biden could fix this but he does not want to do it. i think this is going to be a price to pay at the election. >> laura: the border patrol union has said, come out and said the bill is better than the status quo. does that effect your thinking on this? >> well, i think it does have something to do with the pay structure that's in the bill. i stand that they are desperate for measures that will assist. okay? we took 64 republicans down to the del rio sector down at eagle pass in early january. they told us from their own perspective there it's as if we are administering an open fire hydrant. we don't need more buckets. we need to stop the flow. we know how to do it. the president has the existing authority under the statutes and he ought to use it. he could suspend all entries into the country if he deems it to be in the nation's interest. that's exactly what the statute says. section 212 f of the immigration and nationality act. everybody should google it and read for themselves. the president claims he doesn't have that authority. even though it's been used so

many times over the last couple of decades by previous presidents he pretends it doesn't exist. not an excuse that's palatable for the american people and they see right through. this. >> laura: mr. speaker, are you going to be able to stop this bill? >> we're going to do everything within our power. when i said it's dead on arrival. i mean dead on arrival. we are going to have to work this every other angle that we can and make sure we're taking care of our responsibilities here. the house republicans are dog in and ready to do it. >> laura: mr. speaker, thank you so much. as we noted border deal does not end catch and release and gives biden and mayorkas power to suspend this supposed border closure that would be triggered once you hit this 5,000 a day threshold. the cartel's only respond to one thing we know which is true enforcement. and instant turn backs at the border, which this doesn't provide. so migrants will still game the system using helpful hints from tiktok as "60 minutes" showed us last night. >> oh you learned on tiktok. >> post we found had

step-by-step instructions for hiring smugglers and detailed directions to that hole we visited. the migrants walked about a half mile down a dirt road and waited in line for u.s. border patrol to arrive so they could surrender. >> land they are waiting on is owned by 75-year-old jerry shuster, a retiree. >> whole world seems to know there's a way in and it's on your property. >> they are doing. this. come with the suitcases. they come prepared with the computers just like they got off on norwegian cruise ship yesterday. >> laura: disgusting. joining us now former acting ice director tom homan. tom, what happens the biggest lie being told about this bill if it's actually implemented, god help us if it is. >> well, there is a lot of lies. first of all, it doesn't stop catch and release. it codifies 5,000 day are okay. and what people need to know in the last month, the average

number on the border right now is about 5,000. the cartels have already adapted to. this so, when secretary mayorkas was a deputy secretary, and joe biden was the vice president, and jeh johnson was the secretary, a thousand a day was a drivers. we all got called into jeh johnson's office. a thousand a day what are we doing about it? it's a crisis. now we are going to settle for 5,000 that many when j malliotas the secretary and joe biden is the president? you mentioned earlier in monologue give employees of c.i. s judges responsibility to responsibility who qualifies for asylum. that's a give away program right there. look, they say detention. it is codified title 8 of the united states code. arriving alien without proper documentation shall be detained. shall. not maybe. not think about it. shall. and that's what we did in the trump administration. we enforced the law as written in statute. this year is a release. they are calling it noncustodial

detention. i moo mean, noncustodial detention released on some sort of reporting. even taking away the g.p.s. the ice part of this, the g.p.s. tracking. they are going to release them. look at the secretary of homeland security's life cycle report. the secretary of homeland security's own report it says this: if you are in detention and you get ordered removal. you are removed 99% of the time. if you are not in detention and released you 6% of the time. that's why they are doing. this w they will let millions in and not let them leave. that's why this is written. >> laura: tom, you have been following this for so many years, what is the reaction, do you think, from the cartels in watching this play out? >> they have already adapted. like i said, the last month average crossing right now about 5,000. they knew this language was coming. nothing that says you mentioned 1400 a day minimum there's nothing to stop mayorkas to increasing every airport, every

poe bringing in more. already played that shell game. i worked for 6 presidents. i seen policies come and go. i know what policies work and what policies don't. that's why i didn't get a phone call any of my republican counterpart on what they think is a good bill. here what happens they are doing. mark my word. the democrats put a bill out with some -- a little bit of republican support, and whether it don't get passed all of a ala sudden it's republican problems. republicans filed secure the border. it's all politics no, security and enforcement. it's sickening. >> laura: it's disgusting across the board and it has to be stopped. tom, thank you. believe it or not, we barely crashed the surface of the senate border bill. bill hagertyy, chris landau they are here. they will react next. ♪ he's let his own maintenance take a back seat. well maybe it's time to shift gears on that.

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♪ >> laura: the freebies for the illegals are unending. you have got the prepaid credit cards in new york city. you get the free healthcare in california. of course, all the kids have to get free education. and now you bust into the country and you get a free lawyer. yeah. by the way, you are going to be paying for that, the taxpayers. oh and don't forget free work permits. joining me now tennessee senator

bill hagerty and chris landau former ambassador to mexico during the trump administration. he just returned from mexico city. senator, let's start with you. you just got out of a closed door meeting on this bill. do we get a sense that the republican senators are feeling the fury of the voters on this one? >> i certainly do, laura. i think clearly our conference is divided right now. i'm glad to hear the speaker of the house be as clear as he was with you just a few minutes ago. i think we are going to have to, you know, continue to talk this through and work together. but i can tell you where i am. i'm a hard no on this bill. >> laura: well, work together on what? it gives biden and mayorkas -- mayorkas is out celebrating it. that's all you need to know about this. gives him full authority to end the emergency and to wave in the same number of people through ports of entry. so how is that a border bill? explain that. >> it's not a border bill. you know, just because you call it a border bill doesn't make it a border security bill.

and you have got thes orwellian phrases in it like noncustodial detention. i'm sure all kids at school would like to have non-custodian detention hall. bill put in place so they can as you said use it as a means to hurt president trump what he has tried to accomplish. you go back to section 212-f that's something that president trump had intended to really use to shut the border down by making 4,000, 5,000 people, you know, moving into the country every day a new threshold. you are under cutting all of that. that's not where we need to be. >> laura: they want to -- yeah, chris. they want to tie president trump's hands if he gets elected in november for sure. i know with your legal background, you are very curious about why the bill rests rest rs judicial review authority from texas or arizona regarding any of these legal challenges. why is that so important given the fact that goes to d.c., chris? yeah, the bill directs all

constitutional and other statutory challenges not only to the bill itself, but to any guidance or implementation or decisions under the bill. so, this creates this complicated goldberg structure and all of these legal challenges oh,just happened by coincidence go one of the most liberal courts in the entire country in d.c., the heart of the swamp. and then get reviewed by the d.c. circuit. again, they're taking these -- all these things and very carefully putting them in this one court that already shows you a lot about this bill. >> and senator hagerty, we understand there was yelling in the closed door meeting. can you tell us who was yelling and about what? >> there wasn't yelling. i think that may have occurred at a staff level earlier today. what we had -- what we generally have in our meetings conference behind closed doors is respectful conversation but very frank discussion. and i appreciated that happening. but i can tell you this. we a frank discussion about what

the incentive is here. i think you know what it is, laura. they are going to continue to do this because we know how congressional seats and electoral votes are allocated. allocated on the number of people in the state. not the number of citizens, the number of people. you talked about where the free credit cards are. where the free access to healthcare is, new york, california, the more illegals that go there the more political they get. more congressional districts and electoral they get as a result. >> laura: you were just mexico, what's the sense there? >> since they are suffering from this, too. this is not just a mexican u.s. problem these folk folks are coming from all over the world, 194 countries. they are not happy in the streets of mexico city it's like walking through the u.n. there is people from all over the world. i think mexico also would be delighted to have the u.s. start to crack down on these flows of illegal migrants. and this bill is going to do the opposite. it's going to encourage people

to come. >> laura: well, press heard yelling from that meeting. >> focus of u.s. i'm just saying the press corps is reporting there was yelling in that meeting. chris, you are absolutely right. they could have heard me yelling about it last night read through the bill that could have been me. i have been dealing with thicious for 25 years. thank you both so much. trump is about to do something that i have been advocating for all along. i'm going to explain that next. ♪

>> laura: the democrats aren't any more serious about fixing crime than they are about fixing the border. over the weekend, former trump official mike gill died. this was six days after he was shot in the head at 5:45 p.m.

right in downtown d.c. he was picking up his wife after work and this was a horrific, horrific example of how out of control things are there. carjackings are once again on record-setting pace in our nation's capital. of course it's a democrat run city. super majority democrat run city. so donald trump sees an opportunity here. >> flip blue states like new york and necessary j and rally in the south bronx. >> i will do that i think i will do one maybe at madison square garden, too. the people of new york are angry. people that would have never voted for me because i'm a republican. democrats. vote for democrats. i think they are going to vote for me. >> laura: you have been hearing me talk about a 50 straight strategy. no city and no state left behind. and president trump may just be doing. this joining me now madeline brame she a national crime victims right advocate and ceo of the group rescue angel.

madeline, i know you yourself are a former democrat. do you think trump coming to urban areas affected by crime in this horrible democrat leadership will that make a difference? >> thank you, laura, so much for having me. absolutely it would make a difference. not only would it show that president trump is taking a special interest, that he is taking it personal, what is happening to our black and brown communities, minority communities. because i like to keep it in perspective here. poor, okay? poor minorities. that includes white, black, hispanic, asian, jewish, all of us are together. we are all on the same boat. okay? for him to come to new york and address the people, that shows us that he is really interested and he cares about what our issues are. all right? >> laura: madeline, these are great cities. he said this when he won the

iowa caucuses. said i will work with any democrat to try help these cities. these are great american cities. there is nothing written in the book that say they have to go down the tune tubes and we shoud stand and let them go down the tubes. i think president trump understands that. >> absolutely. >> laura: i think he gets that. >> progressives say that it has to go down the tubes. they are intentionally doing it. they have to. they have to be. because how could these, you know, supposedly educated, well educated people put all of these policies, these catastrophic policies in place with no exit strategy if they were to fail? you know, they base all this stuff on theory. this stuff never been done before. they under estimated, they under estimated the impact that these policies would actually have on the community. and then with the illegals they just released a whole new element. a whole new breed a criminal

element right in new york. right in the streets of new york on innocent new yorkers. crime on top of crime. we already had enough of our own breed of criminal element. now we have a whole new breed of criminal element with no exit strategy, with no way out. >> laura: madeline, don't you think democrats are afraid of president trump going into these urban areas because they know they failed the people that they claim to care so much about? they don't care about them. they care about power and president trump will break that stranglehold that they have but i think the democrats are terrified of him going that these cities. >> well, you know, i had a conversation with my brother yesterday. and we were talking about this very thing. you know, i'm 40-year democrat. i think my brother is a republican, i'm not sure. he is saying that the crime was so out of control, a lot of people have a lot of different opinions on why it happened. some people feel that, you know, after the pandemic, it feels

like crime rose or whatever. and other people see it because of the policies that are being put in place, you know, nypd defunding them, prosecutors, d.a.s, adas. >> laura: definitely not trump's fault. definitely not republicans' fault the democrats run these states. madeline we have to roll. i'm sorry we will have you back. they are telling me i went too long. i could talk to you forever. liberals finally admitted their election strategy what it always was den domenech reacts, next. ♪e so your workplace benefits and retirement savings. voya provides tools that help you make the right investment and benefit choices. so you can reach today's financial goals. and look forward to a more confident future. voya, well planned, well invested, well protected.

donald trump now leads joe biden by 5 points. >> this is the biggest lead nbc has ever had in 16 polls. he is the incumbent, joe biden. we ask voters what do you think of the job he is doing. look at that kristin 37% approval now 60% disapprove. we should say that is the lowest approval rating since former president george w. bush's second term. >> laura: yeah. why are they surprised? i mean, do they not recognize discontent when they see it? migrants getting benefits as veterans, homeless people in the united states struggle? the poverty, the fentanyl? but, some are seeing the writing on the wall and, thus, they want

the courts to rush in for the big rescue. tie trump up in court or even send him to jail. >> i am officially now at the freak out stage. i can't imagine a more compelling need for speed than the idea that american citizens deserve to know before the election whether a candidate for office is a felon and an insurrectionist. >> laura: joining me now is ben domenech editor-at-large at the spectator fox news contributor. ben, they have to change the depends at this point not just for joe but for themselves. they are very worried and they want lawfare to save them, the desperation. the desperation, laura. they need it so much. it's all that they have to hang their hat on. a big part of this is that they recognize on some deep level that they haven't been able to admit to themselves until right now that he is a failure. is he a terrible president. he is bad at everything. and the thing is that, you know,

they have been trying to, you know, wheat talk themselves to some situation where they were going to be able to navigate this election cycle without having to grapple with how bad he's been. that's not there anymore for them. you see that by the way in the desperation around this border bill clean-up is heinous and abhorrent and absolutely at odds with everything we should want as a country. it's them grasping on to how can we find a way to blame this on republicans? we have got to figure it out within the next couple of months. otherwise, he is goings to be doomed to actually have this hanging around his neck going into november and is he going to lose because of it. >> laura: ben, biden today actually addressed debating donald trump. watch this. >> donald trump debate you right now. do you accept? [laughter] >> oh, god. >> pardon me? >> wants to debate you immediately. >> immediately? >> if i were him i would want to

debate me too. he's got nothing else to do. >> laura: ben, he didn't answer the question. will he debate donald trump? >> well, laura, he won't debate donald trump because he still thinks that fran swan who died when i was 1 years old is in charge of france or germany depending on which quote you want to take from him. this is a president completely out of sorts. he will doesn't know what is going on around him. he doesn't know how to run the country. he doesn't have any answers for the problems that we're facing as a nation. and is he someone who is just so asleep at the wheel that, you know, i think americans really have woken up to that reality and the fact that nbc is so shocked by this, the fact that so many in the media are shocked by this is only because they have been able to sleep walk through the past several years without him answering questions, without him doing serious interviews and convincings themselves that he was still doing a great job because he is

not donald trump. that's not enough to get reelected. >> laura: yeah, think they thought they could get through this period and everyone wouldn't notice that he basically can't function people notice and they also see what has happened to the country. ben, thank you so much. biden does vegas and vegas is confused. meanwhile, poor beyonce needs another grammy even though she wasn't nominated. raymond arroyo has it all. "seen and unseen" is next. ♪

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make a life-saving difference. it's your prayers and gifts that give hope to the people of israel. call, scan, or visit our website now to make your life-saving donation. >> laura: it's time for "seen and unseen," where we reveal the stories behind the headlines. raymond, the biden campaign is kicking into high gear. wahoo. >> considered sleepwalking for any other campaign, laura, but the president went to vegas this weekend and made his pitch. it was viva last cracking.

>> $160 billion that taxpayers don't have to pay to medicare. i make no apology. roe vs. wade has taken away a woman's right to choose. before the pandemic, roughly 750 billionaires in america. right after i was elected, i went to the g-7 meeting, in the south of england. i sat down and said, "america's back." from france said, you know, how long you back for? >> laura, america is waiting for joe biden to come back. i mean, francois meeta rin has

been dead. he'll talk to chairman mao. that will happen any day now. >> laura: raymond, there's a thing that he does now, i noticed, i'm not sure what's happening, but there's a one-eye closure situation going on with biden. he does one eye like a popeye deal. i don't know what that is. hard enough for him to see the teleprompter with both eyes open, as far as i can tell. >> right. >> laura: raymond, the bad news for the president is he's continuing to lose black voters, according to this latest pew survey. he's lost 30 points with him since 2020. can this be right? >> yeah, and black men are souring on biden, when they spoke to benny the butcher and others but the president can rest easily. kamala harris hit south carolina this weekend to shore up the black vote.

>> talk about what the black vote means for the biden-harris campaign. >> south carolina, what we've done to pardon tens of thousands of people for simple marijuana possession. nobody should have to go to jail for smoking, weed? or to invest, think about the manufacturing we're funding here in south carolina as it relates to electric vehicles. >> laura: this woman, i mean -- >> yeah, her message for black america is you can smoke we'd and work in the electric vehicle plant. i don't think this is going to go over well. so condescending. as you see, the polls aren't than moving. in fact, they're going in the wrong direction for them. >> laura: you watched the grammys? i didn't watch one millisecond. what did we miss? >> count your blessings. look, standout moments, most of them brought to you by the old folks, billy joel, joni mitchell, billy joel, and tracy chapman, but an ungracious

undercurrent at the grammys. of miley cirrus got up to sing "flowers" and had a jeb bush moment. ♪ ♪ >> why you acting like you don't know this song? >> didn't get the reaction she wanted, so it's the audience's fault. >> laura: clap, please. >> then je jay-z got up and complained that his wife beyonce never got an album of the year award. >> she never won album of the year. think about that. the most grammys, never won album of the year. that doesn't work. >> laura: i mean, aren't we done with these -- i mean, remember kanye west did that to taylor swift? he i can't understand the award all those years ago from taylor

swift. taylor swift has been presiding over this nightmare for so long. she already has a gracious approach, though. she doesn't care. >> well, unless it's celine dion. i'll leave that to the side. beyonce has 32 grammys, laura. 32. that's more than anybody else. what are we complaining about? then jay-z after the ceremony, he gets the ceremonial award, he drinks out of the grammy, disrespecting it. so if you disrespect the thing, why do you want more of them? i don't understand this. look, jay-z and beyonce, the biggest couple in music, and huge entrepreneurs. your accomplishment is your reward, right? >> laura: right. they're billionaires, i think they have it pretty good. i wouldn't be sweating a grammy. it's all kind of stupid. raymond, i'm happy that taylor swift clapped for everybody. all right, guys. up next, jesse. >> jesse: welcome to "jess watters im