the first one was you took that's the one with your mother. >> yes. >> so you introduced ms. willis to your mother and took the cruise together the three of you. after that cruise was done you & miss willis flew to aruba. you paid for it on your credit card. you are saying miss willis paid you back for that. >> she did. let me make this distinction, though. the number that you are looking at reflects the three people on the cruise ship. there were things that my mother and i did, just the two of us, that d.a. willis didn't do. >> and i'm not attributing that. my math is not good but i didn't include anything with your mother on this. >> you wouldn't be able to see it because it is not separated out. it just shows a charge on the

account when actually it would have been something >> may i approach with exhibits 10 and 11? >> thank you. >> these are business records, judge. >> they are true and accurate certification provided to her. >> again, seeing no objection, they are admitted. >> so just the trip to aruba alone for you and d.a. willis was $3000.

just aruba? >> i'm looking for the amount. >> 11 or 12? >> this one is 11. >> yes, ma'am, 3835.26. >> and royal caribbean for you and miss willis was -- >> no, ma'am. >> your mother has a driver line item. the actual cruise, cabin. >> rephrase in the form of a question. >> did you pay royal caribbean for yours and miss willis's cabin? >> where are we? which page? >> we are on the receipt, just a few pages of receipts on exhibit number 11. >> okay, i'm at 11.

can you direct me to where you are in exhibit 11? >> the receipt for royal caribbean. >> we have your flights on one page, i already asked you about for aruba. and then -- just for the record, i blacked out. and royal caribbean may be on -- oh, it's small, hard to read. it is very hard to read. do you recall paying around 1269.70 for royal caribbean

cruise for you and miss willis? you don't remember that? >> that amount seems kind of small. >> you believe it was higher? >> yes. >> while you were in aruba, you bought a norwegian cruise. >> while in aruba? no ma'am. >> credit card documents admitsed earlier show purchase date when you were in aruba. you don't remember that in aruba? >> i did not purchase a cruise when i was in aruba, that may be when the cruise company decided to run the invoice, i didn't purchase a cruise in aruba. >> you purchased a cruise for norwegian for you and miss willis for new year's correct? >> before i went to aruba, yes. >> roughly 3387, the norwegian

cruise? >> so that cruise was with my sisters. and the number that you are seeing would reflect my buying dinner for my sisters and their husbands or -- >> just the cruise, amount paid for the cruise ahead of time when you booked the cruise, just talking about that. >> okay. >> that was a little over 3000 dollars, just cruise amount and jeep and other things in the bahamas. >> yes, ma'am. >> that is the one miss willis paid for a flight for, correct? >> that is one of the flights she paid for. >> a documented paid for, not cash, noncash transaction she paid for. >> you mean the one i provided the receipt for? >> yes.

>> yes, that is that. >> she booked on her credit card and wasn't worried about, you said she was worried about people knowing where she was traveling. >> i object to phrasing of that question, what was motivation of district attorney, if that was the transaction and he responsed it was the transaction. >> rephrase, i will sustain on current phrasing. >> she purchased under her own name? >> she did. >> we talked about the seminar where you all met. isn't it true, you would go to miss willis house in south fulton county occasionally? >> i've never gone to her house in south fulton county, i've never seen her house. first time i heard the address was when one of the individuals in the election fraud case

somehow doxed it and it got out. >> you would go to east point condo some >> what east point condo? i've never been to east point with miss willis. >> you have never gone to condo with miswillis? >> i have gone to a condo? hateville. >> you have gone to a condo with miss willis in hateville? >> i have. >> have you spent the night there some >> never. >> never spent the night there? >> never spent the night there. >> is that the condo rented by robin -- >> i believe it was. >> and other members of the d.a.'s staff were there, correct?

sometimes? >> i've never been around other members of the d.a.'s staff at a condo in hateville. >> never been any security for miss willis? >> not around me. >> did you ever ride with miss willis with security detail to and from the house? >> no. >> you serve said on miss willis transition team, correct? >> yes. >> part of interviews and reinterviewing employees? >> i would say probably 98 or 99%, yes. >> is it fair to say you took an active role in the interviews? >> yes, ma'am. >> prior to this, you had never worked at a d.a.'s office, right? any d.a.'s office? >> no, ma'am. >> have you ever -- >> i object. we are trying to prove a personal and financial relationship and it was

improper, whether or not he had experience to serve on this transition team is relevant. >> we don't need evident iary on that, sustained. >>-- correct? >> you are asking me about terrence? >> did terrence bradley receive a contract for fulton county? >> i believe he did. >> you were partners? >> i was. >> you would get a third of that contract? >> i would have. >> and chris campbell had a contract with fulton county? you would get a third of that, correct? >> i would. >> they both had contract for first appearance, they appear to do first appearance hearings, correct?

>> i believe they did. >> okay. and they also had what is called a taint contract entered january 25, 2021, correct? >> filter, yes, ma'am. >> taint or filter? >> yes, ma'am. >> that was for work in the anticorruption unit? >> i don't know it was anticorruption, i think it was civil rights maybe. >> judge, the d.a. or fulton county broader certificate now, we would move to admit contracts, i have those. under that certificate, i wanted to do it under open record, they certified it, i have not looked at everything certified. >> i will ask that the document

be looked at and confirmed? >> what areas were you planning to cover other than these documents? >> all contracts and invoices, i have not looked at what fulton county certified. i will introduce those and not much. >> can we do the not much and then get back to contracts? >> yeah, definitely. this taint contract and we're not admitting these now, if i represent they say anticorruption unit, can you tell us what a taint attorney would do? >> i did not have a part in those contracts. >> they were your partners? >> correct. >> you got a third of the payment? >> absolutely. >> your law partners at the time, you got a third of those? >> yes, ma'am. >> okay.

you signed a confidentiality agreement with the d.a.'s office, correct? >> i did. >> i think i'm up to, judge, 13. marking that as number 13. may i approach, judge? >> you bet. >> i marked 13, is that the confidentiality agreement you signed? >> it is. it says you can't talk about anything that happens inside the d.a.'s office, right? >> no. >> it doesn't say you can't talk about it. >> you said it basically said i can't talk about anything that happens inside the d.a.'s office. >> are you tendering this? >> i am. >> miss cross. >> relevance of this?

>> relevant to testimony, if he signed an agreement to said he can talk about things that happen in the district attorney's office, that is relevant. how? >> it is motivating his testimony, whether or not he will testify to something. it is part of the record from fulton county. >> sure. if he has not said that is preventing him from testifying, is it? >> is this confidential agreement affecting your testimony today? >> no, it's not. >> all right, that's fine. the contracts, judge, and invoices that i want to admit, i want to admit all invoices and contracts with fulton county. i guess i have them certified through fulton county. does the state have an objection? >> they have not had a chance to

look at them, is that the sole line of questioning here? >> yes. >> follow-up questions, would it be for him to say what is reflected in the documents >> if they have objection, i would admit them through him. if admitted, would there be any anything substantive he would add? >> no. >> subject to that qualification, any other questions of this witness? >> can i take a moment? >> can i have a quick break? >> we're getting there. >> thank you. >> certainly have opportunity over lunch to look at the documents and work it out. >> did you discuss your relationship with miss willis in social settings? >> help me understand your question. did you discuss your relationship with miss willis in social settings?

>> i heard the question, i need to understand what you are asking me. what relationship -- when -- >> your personal relationship with miss willis. did you discuss your personal romantic relationship with miss willis in social settings? >> no, ma'am. >> never? >> no, ma'am. >> did you ever discuss it in front of robin in a nonsocial setting? >> no, ma'am. >> miss willis is a very, as am i, private people. not -- our relationship wasn't a secret, it was just private. not at all, i wouldn't have discussed my relationship with robin or anyone else publicly. >> i did have questions just about the invoices, if you want to just -- >> the documents you are referring to?

>> the invoices. >> what kind of questions that the invoices say what they say? >> thank you. >> at this point, we'll take a break, i'll ask parties to take a look at what -- marked defense exhibit? >> i have contracts and invoices i'm about to mark. will be before he leaves me, i want to make sure the state doesn't have objection. >> they are marked as -- >> about to be marked 14, 15, 16, 17, and 18. >> all right, 14-18, state, take a look at those. >> i will take a look and see if i can match them with certified documents. >> and address if they are tendered for the record when we come back and turn over to remainder of defense counsel and state for examination, as well. to that end, let's take 45

minutes and be back . you are still under oath. >> yes, sir. >> we'll be in recess. >> harris: they'll take a break and you saw ashley merchant. you saw her pushing for a break saying, i have this pile of invoices i want to go through next for extra questions. finally the judge said, we'll take a recess break here. this is a trial that is about fani willis and her lover nathan wade, who is still on the stand. a lot of movement today and dualing willing cases that is just one involving former president donald trump. one in new york and that one we are watching in georgia. in atlanta, nathan wade took the stand and we assume he'll be back on the stand after this recess, he was outlining his relationship with fani willis,

as much as he would. there was a lot he did not answer and a lot he said he couldn't answer because he did not answer and spent time whether a receipt was a credit card record. and the hush money case wrapped up a short time ago and jury selection set for next month after judge denied trump's motion to drop that case. we have a court date for that, trial date, which is march 25th. more on that in a moment, former president called entire trial a sham. of course he spoke, let's watch. >> it's a rigged state, rigged city, a sham. what they ought to do is go out and take care of the violent crime and migrant crime that has destroyed people and killing people, not a case everybody says take a look at the legal documents and legal scholars writing about this say there is no crime, this is no crime.

right outside their courthouse, this courthouse, people are being murdered. it's unfair situation, they want to keep me nice and busy so i can't campaign hard. >> harris: he is in front of the microphone talking about illegal migration. you are watching "outnumbered," here with my co-host kayleigh mcenany and emily compagno. author of "love mom" dr. dr. nicole saphier and kevin o'leary is here. turn back to georgia. today's hearing focuses on fani willis's relationship with the man she hired to hire donald trump. not sure why the prompter said alleged, they both said they were.

the two were not at a certain point, he traveled with willis in 22 and 23. if judge decides otherwise, it could uproot willis case. live for latest reporting outside courtroom in atlanta. steve, this went on and back and forth, who was in the courtroom? >> well, i guess most imposing figure was nathan wade and he had to suffer there on the stand for several hours. couple bombshells, attorneys from both sides came out swinging basically calling each other liars. one key point is not whether the two had a relationship, they both say they did. the key question is when the relationship began and is anyone lying about it. defense attorney said nathan wade is lying about it. this happened well before nathan wade got hired. he got hired when he was already

fani willis's boyfriend. they brought on former employee of d.a.'s office, self-described best friend of fani willis to testify under oath she saw the two were in a relationship two years before nathan wade was hired. here is the exchange. >> you know their relationship, their personal relationship began shortly after this municipal court conference? >> yes. >> when i say personal, romantic. i want to make sure we don't get in an argument do you take personal to mean romantic? >> she then went on to describe the two as hugging and kissing and seeing them hug and kiss. what got pursued today is money. did the two, wade and willis

profit from this relationship, make money from the state and spend on themselves? curious examination of how nathan wade carried out his businesses and travels. he said he put everything on his credit card and then fani willis paid him back in cash which he never declared on his taxes. here is wade talking about their financial arrangement. >> what i allege is -- what i allege is our travel was split roughly evenly, so where you see i have booked a flight or paid for a flight with my credit card, what you don't see is that she covered her own flight. >> we've seen nathan wade on the stand, will we see fani willis? that is up to the judge. certainly a lot of blows against nathan wade and keep in mind the stakes in this case. the judge warned if there is

ap appearance of conflict of interest, that could mean disqualification for d.a. and prosecutor she hired. >> harris: excellent reporting, steve. bring in leo terrell, top radio host and "fox and friends" news contributor. you and i have talked about this case leading up to it. what surprises? what blew your mind in the courtroom today? >> the bombshell is the witness who testified there was a personal relationship before the prosecution of this case, that is the evidence the judge will have to decide. steve steve harrigan said it best disqualification occurs if there is conflict or appearance. witness who testified on the relationship prior to 2022 is evidence of appearance of a romantic relationship and wade's characterization his marriage was over in 2015, he lost a lot

of credibility, he denies ex existence of any gift, dinners or anything else. i don't think it will fly, it doesn't pass the smell test, two facts that were significant today, harris. >> harris: robin was her name, she worked with her and rented housing to fani willis when she did not want to live at home anymore, she rented from her, they were close friends, that is what she called them. >> kayleigh: two lines of questioning of major interest, when did this relationship begin, you have nathan wade, fani willis saying not until 2022. number two, financial component of this, did she use that money

that went to nathan wade, was it spent on fani willis? did they make progress on two lanes in this gathering of information? >> regarding existence of relationship prior to 2022, yes, this friend had personal knowledge. she saw fani willis. she conversed with fani willis. fani willis told her there was a romantic relationship. definitely on that, yes. i go back to interog tories where nathan wade tried to conceal by way of interrog tory ex existence of gifts and trips. there is evidence the judge has now that he did not have 24 hours ago. disqualification occurs if there is conflict or appearance. we learned a lot today, those two components have been met.

>> kayleigh: follow-up. did the prosecutor make any progress in -- on the backside? >> you know as well as i do, sometimes if there is disgruntled employee, how many times have prosecutors and criminal and civil cases, someone testifying who may have a shady background on key component of the testimony whether or not that relationship existed, that evidence was solid, she has personal knowledge. fani willis lived with her. i think she can testify to that and i think the judge can separate those two issues. >> harris: emily, you want to ask a quick question? >> emily: no. >> harris: leo, we will let you go. kevin, you heard what was asked,

did the witness that had confirming information, was she damaged pointing out she was a disgruntled employee and finally she left? they had been close friends, the relationship was more than at the office. what is your take? >> kevin: i want to make an observation on this case. looking at data that shocked me, in media, buying time, say in a presidential election, we would not be tracking this case if it was not tied to trump. what i learned in last 10 days, i get data every five business cycles, we pay so much money on social media, buys for capable and network. trump has done something no one has ever done before, not saying good or bad, he's sucked oxygen out of the room for every commet

tor, nikki haley and even biden. this is extraordinary. if you look at the data, he is getting 80% of unpaid media. i don't know if you call that genius, that is millions of dollars of free network dollars, here we are more trump now. many people say who cares, every second is trump, that is genius of this. >> harris: emily. >> emily: remind viewers, there is a lot they have just seen and average american time span is about eight seconds and you are acting and feeling how a juror does, sometimes getting hit with financial information. reminder, these things are irrelevant and will not be discussed, wade's lack of

experience, violation of county code, forens irk misconduct, including fani willis's comments and church comments. that as background, what is trying to be proven, if financial relationship existed, if it was romantic, when it began and if it is still ongoing. the state's response was 176 pages. i want everyone to hear what the district attorney reported as did nathan wade. they said much of roman's motion, trump's side motion relies on supposition and inuendo, regarding the private relationship between nathan wade and fani willis. they wrote and filed such allegations require a response, we will give you information here and they go on to say the affidavit clarifies that

although d.a. willis and special prosecutor waij have been friends since 2019, no special relationship in 2020 and offer no support for exercise of prosecutorial discretion impacted by that personal relationship and goes on in nathan wade's affidavit that is numerically set forth and under oath, considered testimony before the court, he says, we are both financially independent professionals and while we are professional associates and friends since 2019, no personal relationship before my appointment in 2021. please note that the comments, we are getting numbers and receipts, that does not matter as much as that blanket statement. affidavit matters as much as

testimony. >> during the course of his testimony he said in 2020 they were talking on the phone and some relationship blossomed from 2019 to 2020 and i will leave legal analysis to the lawyers on the couch. the fani willis case is just falling apart and continuing narrative that a lot of charges are personally and politically motivated and president trump is getting more and more popular. he gets in front of microphone and talking about what americans want and tired of hearing about extra marital affairs, just be faithful from now on. >> harris: when media say we are focused on ourselves and become the story, it is less important. for fani willis and prosecutor

she chose to help her adjudicate the case that is biggest in her career, she happened to be lovers with, this case has become bigger than the one against donald trump. he benefits from mentioning the unearned media and makes us focus on that is one co-defendant, mr. roman. there are 19 of them. so what is the rest of this case going to be like and is this part of tumbler that opens on let's move on disqualification for trump. we'll be right back, stay close. (♪) c'mon! it's the story of your family - then and now. a story that made your name mean something. a story you're still writing. so discover your heritage. preserve your traditions. represent all that makes you, you.

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>> emily: we are awaiting the georgia hearing on the relationship of fani willis and trump prosecutor nathan wade to return from break. when it gets back, wade the take the stand and resume his testimony. bring in fox news legal editor who was former counselor to bill

barr. what are your thoughts? top line and detail, you are so knowledgeable, i am grateful you are on. >> at minimum, bad day for democrats law fare campaign against donald trump. i agree with leo terrell that the relationship began long before it said in court filing, would be grounds for disqual disqualification if true. to lie in a court filing is a crime. that would be another issue. on top of it, republican lawmakers said last week they have a number of people willing to come forward to testify against the d.a. in this case. this, i think, as harris was saying, is just the beginning. >> emily: if this is beginning what are potential outcomes what does unravelling look like in

practice for 19 defendants of one case? >> if the district attorney here is disqualified, that is a game-changer, the question will become is this case so tainted by behavior of wade and willis that it needs to move to a different venue and will the prosecutor go forward with rico charges. that is typically for ms-13 and the mob. another prosecutor may say rico, this is ridiculous. remains to be seen. >> emily: what impact on the plea deals we've seen from defendants thus far, null and void and eradicate that and it starts over or some stay in place? >> it would be specific to what

deals and what has been testified up to this point. not looking good for wade and willis. details of money get confusing, big picture, if you have a witness testifying that relationship began before they said in a court filing, big problem. >> emily: thank you. final thoughts you want listeners to know before we conclude? >> i think ashley merchant is doing a good job and i was doing research on her on the break. the reason we're having this hearing, she went the extra mile for her client. she did not just react to the case given to her. it is easy to do. she decided to look around in the divorce filing and doing investigating on her own. because of that advocacy, which makes her a great lawyer, we're here today and the case could crumble because of that.

>> emily: we will connect with you soon. quick thoughts, kevin, before we go to break. >> kevin: he's lying, that is what i think. they will call him out on it, it feels and sounds that way. they had a relationship long before he said they did. i am surprised the lawyer hasn't said did you ever have sexual relationship with this woman before this date? will he lie on the stand? is that coming in the next round? some point that is coming 678 he will perjure himself or admit the truth and he is in trouble either way. >> kayleigh: can i make a point, you are looking at two individuals seen as appearance of conflict of interest. you saw former president and now announce first criminal prosecution with the alvin bragg case. when he came out and had a

chance to speak, he said, let's talk about the migrant crisis and new yorkers and what a juxtaposition to american people to watch this and watch this criminal trial, which critics like mitt romney and legal law experts criticized this alvin bragg alvin bragg case and former president said let's talk about the american people, migrant crisis, what a juxtaposition. american people will have their say. >> emily: let's see if the jurors feel as you do. you're a good juror. stay with us, more "outnumbered" in a moment.

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>> kayleigh: bring in phil holloway, legal adviser to georgia sheriff department.

welcome. the judge made clear prior to today's preceding there needed to beevident ushgary hearing, do the facts match the law? >> great to be with you. what the judge said is what i said, ashley merchant has made out a case that would be sufficient grounds to disqualify not only fani willis, everybody who works for her. we know there was a relationship, what we also have heard at least from a former employee under oath, the people who are talking about this relationship are lying about it, they are saying it started much earlier than nathan wade said in his affidavit filed. that raises a big question. the other thing we're seeing them drill down on and have to

hear more after lunch, is whether or not that was a solid proof of financial gain by district attorney willis as a result of her steering the taxpayer money through a no-bid contract to her boyfriend nathan wade. that is what this is all really about. they are going to have to answer those questions. to be honest, i don't know how the judge is receiving this information about the alleged lying by mr. wade. if i were the judge, i would pump the brakes on all this, pause the entire case and order an independent outside investigation who can track down whether or not there really were cash payments made by willis to reimburse mr. wade. if they are lying to the court and purgery in the case today that we're watching that is the kind of thing the judge ought to be upset about.

i would be if i'm the judge. we don't know if we'll get more than just testimony from nathan wade and is the judge going to accept his word for these things? >> kayleigh: key point. number one, we want to know times of this relationship, former employee, did this romantic relationship begin in 2019, the employee said she witnessed it and yes. nathan wade refutes it. cash payments, nathan wade insists fani willis paid him cash payments, how do you track down cash payments? look at fani willis bank with dollar the drawal, how do you determine that is the case? >> you have to get fani willis under oath. some outside investigation need to be considered by the judge, there are resources available to court and law enforcement that can track these things down. they have more resources than

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word that they will be back atop the hour, 1:00 p.m. eastern in the courtroom in fulton county, georgia with the fani willis and her lover case, nathan wade. so we'll get right back to it live. between now and then, though, let's bring in leo terrell, civil rights attorney, talk radio host and fox news contributor. so, book end this with you, leo. i don't know if you could hear what phil was just saying, he said maybe you bring in like a special prosecutor and you start to look at the trail of the money. what does that do to this case?

that's going to slow it way down. >> leo: yeah, let me be very quick. appreciate my friend phil. i think that will delay the trial way too long, harris, but i think as i said to you are earlier, there is evidence that there is a financial gain here. remember, nathan wade lied, in my opinion he lied about the fact his divorce was over in 2015. that's why his answers about the gifts, the trips, the dinner, he said that's why i said no because my marriage was over. his marriage was not over in 2015. so i think the judge will have enough evidence to rule on the case. expect a well-written opinion, harris, but will rule after all the examination takes place today and tomorrow. expect the ruling. that's what i expect. >> harris: the way you look at this is there would have to be a legal end to that marriage to make what he is saying true in 2015. >> leo: you are right. >> harris: the fact he thinks anyone would believe you give another woman gifts because you

don't like your wife would not stand up in court, is that what you are saying? making sure i get it. last point with you, so you have all these other co-defendants. what in your opinion does this do to their cases? some of them may not have the money to be able to hang in there while they continue to go case by case by case. is there a danger for donald trump that people start to cut deals? >> leo: i think no one is going to cut a deal right now. this case is in limbo, total limbo right now, and there will be no movement on this case as far as the adjudication of the claims until after there is evidentiary ruling decided by the judge. nothing is going to happen. >> harris: from trump's legal position, do you think it's good this case went first? technically, before the one he was in court with today? >> leo: i think it helps him legally and politically. this was a perfect storm for trump today. this hearing is pure gold for him legally and politically. >> harris: leo terrell, a book

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