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♪ >> welcome to hannity and today was an unmitigated disaster for fulton county da fawny willis. now, in case you weren't able to watch the hours long hearing, what a disaster. well, we have all the highlights you need to see but first, let'. start out how we got here. fani and the special prosecutor onecut the trump case in georgi nathan wade her boyfriend, they'r oe accused of having an improper relationship and benning from fulton county taxpayer dollars, fani willis hired her boyfriend wade paid him over $650,000 in the case and then they used the money to go on a series of luxurious vacations together, cruises in thtogee bahamas along with trip aruba, belize, napa valley. that's not all. wade lacked the qualifications for the job of special prosecutor iionsn the first plai listen to this. in fact, according to a court filing, there is no evidence

that nathan wade has ever, ever handled a felony case.as so howe. did wade end up being appointed to lead one of the d most high-profile cases in us history? and by the way a rico case which was ridiculous from the beginnincag to boot? it ibes an exorbitant salary on top of everything else. now that is one of the big questions at the center of today's hearing. now willis appointed wade to lead this case in november of ls 2021. and in a sworn statement, he previously claimed their s romantic relationship began in 2022hi. hmm. little problem. according toa li one of fani willis's former friends and co-workers, the relationship actually started years before that. matter oief fact, one of her clm friends, oatr former close friends, aer cs she said later,s to bede a friend, in 2019. hmm. who's telling the truth? you decide. >> there is no doubt your mind that from 2019 until 2022, ms. .

willis and mr. wade were in a ll romantic relationship. >> what's the question? >>onsh you have no doubt that t romantic relationship was in m 2019 until the last was in time you spokect f with her. >> no doubt. >> now both wade and willis later denied theirot relationsh bega n in 2019 but if true that alone would throw the entire case int wo question, on top of lot of other issues because that lied to the issues because that court. now things only got worse when nathan wade took whe the stand,n asked if he had visited any cabins with willis, a cabin, you know, to go on vacation. he paused for over 20 seconds before answering. watch thiser. >> i'm asking if you remember th paying for a cabin six months ago in tennesseeng. >> no. >> do you remember booking a cabin. >> i book lots of cabins.

>> did you go to a cabin with ms. willis ever? c >> ever? >> ever. w >> no. >> you had never gone to a cabin with ms. willis. >> no . >> wow and when confronted about the trips between the two of them wade said fani willis always repaid him in cash which isn't traceable. well that's pretty convenient, isn't it? take a look. >> you used your business credit card for these trips correct. >> i use my business credit card for everything. >> okay, yes. you use it for your kids' tuition. >> yes, ma'am. >> you used it for personal travel with ms. willis. >> yes, ma'am. >> you said in the affidavit

that you roughly shared travel though correct. >> yes, ma'am. >> so this roughly sharing travel you're saying she reimbursed you. >> she did. >> and where did you deposit the money she reimbursed you. >> it was cash. she didn't, she didn't give me any checks. >> now throughout his entire testimony, nathan wade seemed very uncomfortable. he ways often seen wiping sweat off his face wile taking questions, and fani willis took the stand after nathan wade and was pressed on these payments. here's what she had to say. take a look. >> where did that cash originally come from the it didn't come out of the bank. >> cash is fungible i've had cash for years in my house so for me to tell you the source where it comes from when you go to publics buy something get $50 you throw it in there. it's been my whole life. when i took out a large amount of money on my first campaign i kept some of the cash of that. like to tell you i just have cash in my house, i don't have as much today as i would

normally have. >> now, willis faced a number of questions about the time line of her relationship with wade and in one very tense exchange, and there were many of those, accused him of making this incredibly sexist comment. wait until you see this. take a look. >> the romantic relationship ended before the indictment was returned, yes or no? >> to a man, yes. >> to a man, yes. to you, no? >> she's explained this. she's explained this. >> and did the forthcoming indictment have anything to do with that, or was it just a coincidence? >> mr., let's go on and have a conversation. >> i just asked you whether or not it was a coincidence. >> had absolutely nothing to do with this. it's interesting that we're here about this money. mr. wade is used to women that, as he told me one time, only thing a woman can do for him is make him a sandwich. >> what does that mean to a man, yes. now, what we have shown you so

far is only the tip of the iceberg from today's bombshell hearing. let's take a look at some of the other highlights. watch. >> i probably had choice words about some of the things you said that were dishonest within this motion so i don't know if it was conversation. as you know mr. wade is a southern gentleman, me not so much. i very much want to be here so i'm not a hostile witness. >> not so much you're hostile ms. willis your interests are opposed. >> merchant's interests are contrary to democracy your honor not mine. he tells me how much it is and i give him the money back. just like you're asking me the money, i don't do my friends leak that. so if you the he will me it's a g then you're going to get a thousand dollars. i think we did two different wine tours that you do, which are pretty expensive. i think i bought him -- he likes wine, i don't really like wine to be honest with you, i like gray goose. that was the most expensive

thing we did while we were there so they with pair, they would pair champagne, chocolate and -- champagne, chocolate and caviar, its was like three different things, sweden russia, i'll make that up. butt let's be clear, you lied, let me see i think you lied right here. >> your honor. >> no this is the truth judge. >> it is a lie. >> i don't need anybody to foot my bills. the only man who's ever foot my bills completely is my daddy. >> things got so out of control that at one point the judge actually warned well i, judge in this case by the way i thought was very patient, over her conduct on the stand. watch for yourself. >> 2020, did mr. wade ever visit you at a place that you resided. >> he has never been to my home in south fulton. 2020 was before i knew that a phone call was going to be made and i was going to have to abandon my home. as a result thereof, he never

visited, lived at, came to or has seen south fulton. >> you qualified that with your home in south fulton. >> that's where i lived in 2020. >> in 2020 did he ever visit you at a place that you resided. >> okay. i don't understand. in 2020 i lived in south fulton. that's the only place i lived in south fulton that's before i had to abandon my judge home and at my home in south fulton, miss -- he never came there, okay? so if you don't come from a place you can't live there. >> i'm going to have to caution you, that's going to be my first time i have to caution you, you have to listen to the questions as asked, and if this happens again and again, i'm going to have no choice but to strike your testimony. >> even the media mob were forced to admit today was a complete disaster against willis and her case against donald trump. take a look. >> don't let the legalese fool you this is epic, this is monumental if things are going in the direction we think, fani

willis lied to the court, it's game over for her. she will be disqualified. >> it's a mess for the office to be clear. regardless of what the legality is it is a mess for the office and something they're going to have to deal withen put in front of a jury seeing all this play out. >> it might be appropriate for ms. willis to consider removing herself from this case now and turning the reins over to a senior on official in the district attorney's office and let him or her handle it because this is getting ugly it's getting messy and my guess is it's not going to get better. >> now we kind of saved the best part for last. this is fani willis as a candidate talking about this very issue, and how fulton county georgia residents deserves a da that won't be hooking up with their ployes a. take a look. >> because you're sitting with someone today that actually wants to make a difference. because they deserve a da that won't have sex with his

employees. because they deserve a da that won't put money in their own pocket. >> i certainly will not be choosing to date that work under me, let me just say that. >> now, earlier tonight, former president trump, he did weigh in on the drama from today telling fox news that fani willis while, quote, badly tainted, is badly tainted and her case against him is a scam. here with reaction tonight fox news contributor jonathan turley. i don't really know where to begin jonathan except to say that that judge was extraordinarily patient, i thought. i found her to be defiant, combative. frankly, that quote that she made as a candidate that, you know, people want a da that's not going to have sex, you know, and spend money, et cetera, i'm like, wow. isn't that what this evolved into? >> yeah, i actually thought the judge did a great job until the very end.

i thought that he did lose control of his courtroom to willis. that she was able to go on and on on these tangents and i think most judges would have shut her down sooner. i think he was detrimental and civil which is how he is as a judge but in the end i was surprised how much she was allowed to go off on these tangents but what was really damaging here is the fact that both of these attorneys now stand credibly accused of filing false information with courts. that's what they're prosecuting defendants in this case for. and in the case of mr. wade, when they went through the interrogatories that he answered in the divorce case, most of us view those answers now as demonstrably false. so the question is, if she didn't have this personal relationship with wade, would she really be keeping him around under this cloud? most lead prosecutors would say

look, you need to step aside. but she's not. and both of them are now putting their own interests ahead of the case and ahead of their office. and that only compounds the ethical concerns in the case. >> yeah. well, i mean, the accusation is so severe, i don't see any other choice but that she would have to be removed from the case and considering that we now know he did not have the best qualifications, he never tried a felony case jonathan and this is one of the biggest cases ever for the state of georgia and for the country. to me, if they want to pursue something, they've got to go back in court, never mind the fact that i always thought the rico statute they used was ridiculous. what's your take? >> well, i've never been a fan of this case, and i think the rico theory is overextended. they had to really stretch it to the breaking point to try to

insnare donald trump. the attorneys that pled guilty earlier notably did not plead delete to the racketeering, they pled guilty to relatively minor crimes that avoided jail time and allowed them to keep their bar licenses. so they may not be as good a witness -- set of witnesses for willis as she thinks. sean, at the end of the day, it's unlikely that the court is going to dismiss this case. the question is really not just whether the court will disqualify one or both, but what is wade and willis still doing in this case? they are clearly hurting their case. so this isn't really their case at all, right? i mean, this is supposedly the case of fulton county. and yet they seem to be holding it hostage to their own personal drama, which is playing out in this courtroom. >> let me disagree with you. if they are tainted and they are the ones that put this case

together and he didn't have the qualifications he never tried a felony case before, jonathan, and she's benning financially with these lavish vacations that they're taking, how do you possibly stay with charges like this knowing that the people involved until this were benning financially and that this was not motivated by their own personal gain? that to me impacts the entire case. she is the fulton county da. the buck should stop with her. and she is beyond tainted here. i think it's a lot worse. i'm using kind language, in my view. but i don't know how this case can stand. i'm really having a hard time following you here. >> well, you know, look, i am not a fan of this case, never have been, but i'm telling you that if you look at how these types of issues have been handled in the past, they have tended not to dispense with the

entire case. they have tended to remove prosecutors, and i think the odds still favor that here. but they could end up delaying this case if both of them are disqualified. this is putting the judge in a very tough position, as to how he's going to proceed. but what i saw today on that stand was embarrassing. i mean, both of these attorneys adopted bizarre semantic approaches to things that were clear. you know, she said, well, yeah, i gave him a job but i don't view him as an employee under ethics rules i view him as an agent. then she said yeah i probably did get a hundred dollars or more from him but he probably gave me an equal or greater amount. those are the types of finessed interpretations they would never accept as prosecutors. keep in mind, they're prosecuting trump over what the meaning of the word "find" is. they're saying when he said you can find 11,000 votes he was

saying create them or invent them and trump was saying i was just telling them to do a state-wide recount because that's all the votes i need to change the outcome. >> right. >> so in prosecuting him they have very little room in terms of interpretation, but when it ca imto their own defenses, they were as creative as a hollywood producer. >> yeah. well, and by the way, there was a lot of context. if you listen to that entire conversation or read the entire transcript of that call, donald trump's case was, i won by hundreds of thousands. i didn't win by just the 11,000-plus that would have put him over the top in georgia. he was saying there's votes here, there's votes here, this is what you missed here and there. did he believe it? i think he would pass a lie detector test. that's my belief. jonathan turley. oh, go ahead. >> and also, i direct your attention to how he -- how wade explained his answers in his

interrogatories. the questions asked him if he had a sexual relationship going into 2022 at any point of his marriage or separation, and he just said, oh i answered that and just assumed it only meant my marriage and the lawyer was dumfounded and said i just read you the question. so that's the level of denial we saw today. >> judge jeanine: unbelievable. all right jonathan turley thank you tonight. we appreciate it. here now with more reaction we have fox news legal analyst gregg jarrett harvard law professor allen dershowitz with us. we start with you, number one unqualified overpaid lead attorney who is in a relationship with the da that's leading this case benning financially from the money that she is approving for payment for this guy. why would that not result until not only removal but, if they want to pursue charges down the road, that would take a new prosecutor, a you new case, a new venue, et cetera.

>> well,en and i think fresh eyes would say, this isn't a racketeering case, dismissed. you know, fanny well whiches, sean, proved that lawyers make hideous witnesses. her lover nathan wade's testimony was such a stooges train wreck that willis sprinted to the witness stand to try to fix it and then she melted down in this tantrum of belligerent rants. it was sort of an erie impression of carell a deville. she even screeched at the judge who banged his gavel and had to call a recess. grudgingly willis and wade both admitted their sexual affair but then they claimed ridiculously it didn't start until after he was hired not before. listen to me, eat either way it does not matter. the affair itself is a severe conflict of interest, an obvious impropriety an egregious of the

canons of ethics that merits disqualification. and if the judge decides that the entire prosecution has been tainted, and i think it has, he can either dismiss the charges or, more likely, ship it off to another office. and if that happens, new prosecutors will surely take a look at this and say, this is legally unsound. this is not racketeering. >> it would need to be in my view, professor, a new venue. again unqualified, overpaid, lead attorney paying -- being paid an exorbitant amount of money. the da benning from that money, a lavish vacations. i believe that this case now needs to be dropped and i'll take it a step further. what happens to all the people that made plea deals. a lot of people make plea deals not because they're guilty but because it takes the possibility of jill off the table and removes that pressure. would you agree he with that

characterization? >> i certainly would and the people who pleaded guilty will probably seek to undo their pleas unless they are satisfied with the result. to me the issue is perjury. there is a plausible case not an iron clad case a plausible case take the two of them both committed perjury. he seems clearly to have committed perjury if not in the courtroom, in answering his interrogatories where he swore under oath essentially that he did not have sex between the time he was married and the date he signed that admitting however that he did have sex when he thought the marriage was broken down. that's one thing. the second thing is, this is a she said, they said confrontation. we have a witness who seems completely plausible who said that she admitted that she had a relationship with him during the period of time when she denied doing it. one witness against two witnesses. but, remember, she testified

under oath, hey, all you need for proof is one witness's testimony. there was one witness, her friend, who testified that there was sex during the period of time that they denied it. so i think there's a plausible case for perjury here but i think there's an open and shut case for disqualification based on the appearance of impropriety. look, when you admit that you paid for all these trips on your credit cards, then the burden of proof shifts to the other side to demonstrate that there was pay back in cash. and the fact that there are no records, and the payments all have records, but the repayments have no records gives rise to a plausible interpretation that that's not true. that there was financial benefit that accrued to the district attorney. therefore, there's more than enough for the judge to say, at least an appearance of impropriety, total disqualification of the office, start from scratch, put the case in a different district, let's

see if an independent prosecutor thinks there's enough here for a rico prosecution. >> do you believe that will happen? exit question for both of you. professor we'll let you go first. >> i'm not hearing. >> professor, okay, do you believer -- greg do you believe that he will happen? >> yeah. i think it's 50/50 that he'll ship it off to a different district attorney's office. maybe he should refer it to the state attorney general for a complete new review and again, as i said before, i'm fairly confident that any rationale prosecutor who's independent, objective, fair and neutral, will look at this case and say, where in the world is there credible evidence that supports a racketeering charge. and i think they would conclude

there is no evidence here. >> all right, professor real quick will that happen what you said. >> there is a case -- yes, because there is a case already in the district of columbia which covers these same issues. there is no need for there to be a state case on this so it should be dismissed. >> all right professor thank you, greg thank you. coming up team trump reacts to fani willis, the disastrous day in court as we continue our coverage, a lot of other news state ahead. stay with us. ♪ have you ever thought of getting a walk-in tub for you or someone you love?

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♪ >> sean: despite fani willis being on the stand she still found a way to point the finger to donald trump, dog bites bee stings feeling sad blame trump here's what she had to said

during one of her many outbursts today. >> you're confused you think i'm on trial these people are on trial for trial to steal an election in 2020. i'm not on trial no matter how hard you tried to put me in trial. >> sean: trump called out willis following her testimony in an interview with fox news digital the former president said quote, the case will have to be dropped, the whole thing was a scam was to get money for the boyfriend. meanwhile donald trump was in new york city today where a judge denied his request to dismiss what, 8-year-old charges brought against him from alvin bragg over all things stormy daniels, stormy, stormy, stormy yet again. that criminal trial is scheduled to begin march 25th but trump has vowed this will not stop him from hitting the campaign trail. president trump is awaiting more news out of new york tomorrow where a very, very, well, a judge that is not exactly trump's fan is going to we know rule against him in every way imaginable in that civil fraud

case. here now with more legal spokeswoman for the former president alina habba is with us. alina, i've said this from the beginning. there's not a single -- there's not a chance frankly in hell that i see that donald trump's going to get any fair trial in new york. now they're going to start a trial about stormy daniels. we were talking about stormy daniels in 2016. that is eight years ago. and they're just, they're only now in an election year, oh, they found it a convenient time after the previous da passed on any charges, let's bring it up in an election year for a guy take allowed no bail for five guys on tape illegal immigrants beating the hell on two new york city cops they got to go tow in the sanctuary state of california after they walked out of prison, no bail, gave the world the double figure and headed out to the west coast.

wow what a great state that is. >> yeah, yeah, it's really unbelievable sean. i wouldn't believe it if i wasn't the one sitting in these trials myself, i'll be honest with you where they're trying to put several attorneys in jail for objecting to evidence. this is the state of new york, this is where we are and watching this trial today, watching what was happening at that hearing, they're all the same. i have to be honest with you i've seen it time and time again now i've had the pleasure of working for the president for the past few years and i can tell you, this is all corrupt. it is all absolutely election interference. there is no way, as you point out that the stormy case would come about now in the middle of an election, in the middle against the leading candidate and you know who that was bought from michael cohen real reliable source we have there. so the desperation is real, the trump derangement syndrome is real and it is pathetic and obvious and now we're seeing money laundering and money funneling coming through. you can't milwaukee it up, going to the biden administration, taking visits to the white

house, coordinating with other das and ags, do not get it twisted he has done absolutely nothing wrong but in the great state of new york don't worry they'll put their nose in a private company and try and disgorge you for doing what having a financial statement of condition take was under valued but a judge will say mar-a-lago's worth $18 million they definitely overvalued their statements of financial conditions. yeah if you're using ridiculous numbers like that sean. it is crazy. >> sean: it's like the january 6th committee they have a predetermined outcome. the maximum penalty is going to be given to donald trump maybe as early as tomorrow from what i understand. >> yeah. >> sean: so the judge is going to say, okay, mar-a-lago, this is a valuation case, he's still sticking to his valuation of 18 million for mar-a-lago. that is far worse of a valuation than anything they're accusing donald trump of. number two they're going to

cancel the whole trump family put a conservativeship in place he won't have control of his properties cancel the whole family. what to fulfill a campaign promise from an ambitious attorney general in that state that seems to be what the reality is on top of going back eight years now for stormy daniels. wow, all in an election year. how convenient. >> it's a hundred percent what it is. i have to tell you what i saw today was a lot like ms. james in new york, a similar fact pattern, similar arrogance that you're seeing come out of it because they know they have these judges if their pockets and soros backing, whoever it is, reid hoffmans of the democratic party backing this. this is not what the courts are supposed to be used for sean and it's disgusting, it's disgraceful. i really want to say to any of the judges that are out there listening that have anything left in terms of looking at the cases, looking at facts, looking at law, make our profession proud. because what i'm saying is complete politicization of our

legal system. it is he not right. it's an election year, election interference now we have stormy daniels, her lawyer went to jail michael cohen perjured himself admitted on the stand. how much lower can we go read pomerantz book if you have any questions about it. it's ridiculous and it has to top sean. actually the only way we stop it is in 2024. i believe that. >> sean: i don't believe the president can get a fair hearing in new york. i think he got five percent of the vote in dc i don't think he can get a fair trial there at allment certainly was never going to get one out of fulton county georgia. maybe florida he'd have a fair shot but that case should have never happened especially in light of what we learned from the robert hur report and joe biden and his classified documents and his scandal, and what we know about hillary clinton, no reasonably prosecutor would prosecute. if that's not a dual justice system i don't know what it is. >> yeah, yeah, hundred percent

right. don't forget we went after hillary clinton for something we know is true and the russia hoax and got find a million dollars and sanctioned and thrown out without me ever meeting the judge. i never met the judge one time, never spoke to him never walked into court. that is the state of our country right now everybody. we need to wake up and step up. that's the truth. >> sean: and don't worry, the compliant media that lied about the russia hoax for three long years, never made a correction, no apologies, they peddle conspiracy theories no consequences no one seems to care. sad times. alina habba thank you. when we come back we're about to learn even more about joe biden's disastrous special council report. we'll check in with former speaker of the house newt gingrich and tell you why team biden should be terrified tonight. straight ahead. ♪ 202 pounds on golo. so when i first started golo, i was expecting to lose around 40 pounds and then i just kept losing weight, and moving and moving and moving in a better direction.

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♪ >> sean: now fallout continues for joe biden after the doj's damning report on his mishandling of classified documents and now fox news digital are reporting that special counsel hur will in fact testify in front of the house judiciary committee next month. jim jordan is also demanding that joe biden's ghost writer turn over any interview recordings, transcripts, other materials from his time working with the president. hur's report found biden shared classified information with the ghost writer on multiple locations and suggested that the author deleted recordings after the special counsel investigation began. by the way since the report came out, the media mob can't even cover for biden anymore and the administration is angry so their hack spokesperson for the white house council's office, some guy

named ian sams, sent a letter to the white house correspondents association frustrated that the coverage of the doj report and outline how news outlets could better cover the story. in other words, he basically didn't like the media and is telling them how to properly regurgitate all the white house's liberal talking points like they did for three years when they lied about russia and trump and collusion that never happenedment here with reaction, former speaker of the house fox news contributor newt gingrich is with us. now the night the report came out, you remember that joe had that hastily convened news conference and in that he was outraged and angry, how the hell dare he and he was talking about the fact that he mentioned in the report he didn't remember his son beau's death, the date of that death within years. now we find out, and i'm certain that this was leaked from the white house, i would bet everything i had on it, that, in fact, joe biden himself is the one that brought it up, nobody

robert hur. what's worse, the fact that he didn't remember or the fact that he didn't remember that he was the one that brought it up? >> i think there's a fairly direct answer that serves the interests of the american people. forget republicans and democrats. forget the congress. and that is to release the transcript. take out anything that involves a genuine secret and release everything else. if it's true that, in fact, hur did not ask the question about biden's son and that biden himself brought it up then what does it tell you that part of biden's deliberate defense at a white house press conference is to lie to the american people or it's possible once again he just forgot, he didn't remember who did what. i think it's a very serious

issue as you know, i think it's way beyond politics. i think if it's true, that we have a commander in chief who is literally incompetent, who couldn't go -- and i think the issue for the attorney general is pretty straightforward. merrick garland has to decide, is it true that they cannot from joe biden because he is too old and he has too weak a memory and he will be too sympathetic, in which case i think they have to look at the 25th amendment because how can you tell the world wove a president who is so incompetent and has such deep problems cognitively, that he could never get through a trial and a judge would always be sympathetic because they would think that he couldn't possibly have done anything deliberately because he's not capable of it. i think biden is enraged at that image but if he is enraged then the alternative is he's available to be tried. they can't have it both ways and i think that's what hur really

set up as the choice and i think hur's testimony to the congress will almost certainly be devastating just because it will reemphasize that this was a professional, methodical, serious effort, sort of the opposite of what we've been watching with fani willis in atlanta, and that hur reached the conclusion that is pretty defies stating about the capacity of the president of the united states to actually do his job. >> sean: well i agree with you, agree with josh hawley. it's either okay you're going to indict him because he said he did this willfully or you invoke the 25th amendment that would be up to merrick garland. if you look at hur's report the ghost writer athleting the audio files, they have since recovered those audio files i think the american people ought to be able to hear those but what should we do with the ghost writer that

deleted the audio recordings once the investigation was announced. it sounds like he knew that that potentially could be evidence. >> look, the standard for all this was set by hillary clinton who had staff take a hammer a physically destroy the hard drive, who herself apparently deleted 32 or 33 thousand e-mails. i mean, she is sort of the model for simply destroying the evidence. and, as you know, they refused to prosecute her even though she was clearly guilty of violations of law of those significant documents. now you have the same thing happening frpgs one of the challenges in our current totally one-sided legal system is that if you're a democrat, you can assume that, in fact, the justice department, the fbi, will protect you, favor you, do

everything it can to avoid hurting you, and if you're a republican you can assume though will do exactly the op it. a terrible moment for america, for the rule of law and for the constitution. >> sean: it's certainly not equal complication of our laws or equal justice under the law. that is exactly what we've been discussing a jewel justice system. this is what the judiciary exitee has been investigating, the weaponization of the doj and how it's been politicized. i think there's a lot to come here. so far it seems to be helping trump, not hurting him. we'll find out in time. mr. speaker, thank you for being with us >> when we come back we have brand new poll numbers tonight showing donald trump surging now in key swing states. we'll check in with kellyanne conway and tomi lahren and they'll explain why people are turning to trump. next straight ahead.

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♪ >> sean: all right, new fox news poll showed donald trump ahead of joe biden, two very important key swing states, in north carolina, trump is leading biden by 5 points with a 50% margin of support while he holds a two-point lead over the president in the swing state of michigan which biden won in the 2020 election. now this all as senator joe manchin continues to hint pretty strongly now as a possible third party run for president claiming or suggesting that he would consider mitt romney or bob portman as potential running mates. here with reaction fox news contributor kellyanne conway and of course the host of tomi lahren is fearless no such thing as a fearful tomi lahren, tomi lahren is with us. let's start with the idea a no

parties label manchin and portman or manchin and mitt romney. what's your reaction how big of an impact would that have potentially on this election. >> run joe run. i think a joe manchin/mitt romney or somebody else running meat ticket takes more votes away from joe biden. what's remarkable about the polls sean in both michigan and north carolina, when it's a two-person race trump is beading biden. when it's a 5-perp race when you add in rfk jr., cornell west, joel stein the third party candidates already on the ballot then you see joe biden slipping even more. in north carolina trump goes from plus five to plus nine. so all of these outside attempts, right now, are helping biden bleed out. the other thing that's remarkable about these polls that i don't think a no labels ticket would affect at all. in michigan in the fox news poll joe biden is at 68% among black voters. he won 93% of them in 2020. he is losing by 25 points, his

own margin. also trump is beating him in those states among voters under 45 and political independents two groups that biden won in 2020. look, i have this to say about no labels. if you're a united states senator, you're labeled. if you're two united states senators on the i believe the you're labeled twice. you have a 22% approval rating from the senate basically. i like joe manchin nice guy seen him around washington, he voted for the inflation reduction act, voted against amy coney barrett. i'll predict one more thing a no labels ticket with joe manchin on it would still get beaten in his home state of west virginia by donald trump. >> sean: tomi if these polls are accurate or let's say donald trump gets half of the demographics that are traditionally democrat that kellyanne mentioned it would be a blowout at that point for donald trump and you see him bleeding support among key factions of the democratic party

base. how real do you think this is? or at the last moment will these demographics come back and numbers help had in 2020? >> well, i don't want to be a debby downer, i want to be optimus particular but every time we think there's going to be this red wave and races that we should win, even this week with the george santos seat and special election in pennsylvania, republicans should be able to win these things, unfortunately republicans are not winning these things that are very winnable. we're also looking at these polls, we're also assuming that joe biden is going to be the nominee. sean i've been saying it for over a year now, i don't think joe's going to be the nominee. so republicans and donald trump have to prepare themselves for that. i also, looking at these polls, it's nice to see donald trump ahead in some of these important states but we also have to remember that joe biden at this point is essentially a vegetable his policies are horrible his cognitive state is horrible and on display and donald trump is only leading by that small

percentage? donald trump should be crushing him by much higher margins considering the physical and mental state of joe biden and this country. so i don't want to be a debby downer, i don't want to be negative but republicans, you have a few months to figure this out, you've got to win elections and you have to win election earring, early voting, mail-in voting, voter registration those things are going to be important, not enough just to have a better conditioned a date anymore you have to have a good strategy. the democrats have mastered it we better get in the game or we are going to lose. >> sean: and they'll demagogue abortion and the case of district three in new york, tom suozzi was actually claiming democrats want a secure border. we know that's a lie. kellyanne, but i think tomi's right, on early voting, voting by mail. >> yes. >> sean: legal ballot, ballot hg in swing states. republicans better get their act together because they are way behind again and that killed them on tuesday.

>> there's no question the rnc has to your vote. i know president trump endorsed and i think it's incredibly important. and the state parties need to invest in the non-sex parts of politics, john. and that means not just ads, not just can engage and make sure people know you're taking a chance. grandpa can get out of the bathroom, let alone the house on election day. i want his vote in october. let's go get it right. all right. thank you both. kellyanne, appreciate it. and tomi lahren, thank you. more "hannity" coming up straight ahead. realtor.com, aerial view maps show you precise wildfire flood and noise ratings on every home listing. don't all have to do that. not really. trust the number one a real estate professionals trust. download the realtor.com app today at quince, leaving inexpensive, expensive things they know. >> it sounds like a parent whose beaches flipped the way luxuriously like washable

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