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world. >> welcome to "hannity". and today it was an on unmitigated disaster for fulton county d.a. fani willis. now, in case you weren't able to watch the hours hearing, what a disaster. well, we have all the highlights need to see. but first, let's set out how we got here. anthony and the special prosecutor on the trump case in georgia, nathan wade, her boyfriend. they're accused of having an improper relationship and benefiting from fulton county taxpayer dollars. now, fani willis allegedly hired her former boyfriend, wade, paid him over $650,000 in the case. and then they used the money to go on a series of luxurious vacations together cruises in the bahamas, along with trips to aruba, belize and napa valley. and that's not all. we'd like to qualifications for the job of special prosecutor in the first place.
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listen to this. in fact, according to a court filing, there is no evidence that nathan wade has ever ever handled a felony case. so how did wade end up being appointed to lead one of the most high profile cases in u.s. history? and, by the way, a rico case, which was ridiculous from the beginning to boot. >> it is an. it is a exorbitant salary on top of everything else. >> now, that is one of the big questions at the center of today's hearing. now, willis appointed wade to lead this case in november of 2021, and in a sworn statement, he previously claimed their romantic relationship began in 2022. well, a little problem. according to one of fani willis former friends and coworkers, the relationship actually started years before that. a matter of fact, one of her close friends said, or former close friends, she said later, used to be a friend and 2019. hmm. who's telling the truth either side? >> there is no doubt in your
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mind that from 2019 until 2022, ms.. willis and mr. wade were in a romantic relationship. >> what's the question? >> you have no doubt that their romantic relationship was in effect from 2019 until the last time you spoke with her? no doubt. oh, now, both wade and wallace later denied their relationship began in 2019. but if true that along with throw the entire case into question on top of a lot of other issues, because that would mean she lied to the court. now things only got worse when nathan wade took the stand. when asked if he had visited any cabins with willis, a cabin ,you know, to go on vacation. he paused for over 20 seconds before answering. watch this. >> i'm asking if you remember paying for a cabin six months ago in tennessee. no. do you remember booking a cabin? i bought lots of cabins.
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did you go to a cabin with miss willis? ever, ever, ever? >> no. you never want to cabin with this? >> no. wow and when confronted about the trip study book for the two of them, wade said, the fani willis always repaid him in cash. which isn't traceable. well, that's pretty convenient, isn't it? take a look. >> you used your business credit card for these trips, correct? i use of this credit card for everything. i guess you use it for your kids tuition. >> yes, ma'am.
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use for personal travel with this one? >> yes, ma'am. you said in the affidavit that you roughly shared travel there, correct? yes, ma'am. okay. so, roughly sharing travel, you're saying she reimbursed you? she did. and where did you deposit the money? she reimbursed you from the cash. >> she didn't. she didn't give me any checks. throughout his entire testimony, nathan wade seemed very uncomfortable. he was often seen wiping sweat off his face while questions. and fani willis took the stand after nathan wade and was pressed on these payments. here's what she had to say. >> take a look. where did that cash originally come from? if it came out of the bank. cash is fungible. okay. cash for use in my house. so for me to tell you the source of when it comes from, when you go public, when you buy something, you get $50. you throw it in there. when you. it's been my whole life. when i took out a large amount of money on my first campaign, i can't think of the cash. like to tell you, i just had cash in my house. i don't have as much today as i
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would normally have. >> now, willis faced a number of questions about, the timeline of her relationship with wade. and in one very tense exchange ,there were many of those accused him of making this incredibly sexist. >> wait until you see this. take a look. the romantic relationship ended before the indictment was returned. >> yes or no to a man? yes to a man. >> yes to you know, she's explained this man said she was fine, this entity. and then the forthcoming indictment have anything to do with that or was it just a coincidence, mister? that's the one. i had the conversation. >> i just ask you whether or not it was a which had absolutely nothing to do with this. it's interesting that we're here about this money. mr. wade is used to women. it as he told me one time. only thing a woman can do for him is make him a sandwich. >> what does that mean to a man? yes.
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now, what we have shown you so far, it's only the tip of the iceberg. today's bombshell hearing. let's take a look at some of the other highlights. >> i probably had some choice words about some of the things that you see that we'll be honest with in this notion. so i don't know that it would be compensated. as you know, mr. wade is a southern gentleman. he not so much. but if you're going to be here so i'm not a hostile witness very much want to be not so much that you're hostile as wants to be an adverse witness. your interests are opposed to mr. merchant's interests in terms of particular contributions. contrary democracy or not. tomorrow. he tells me how much it is and . i give him the money back. i don't. just like you're asking me about the money, robin. i don't do my friends like that. so if you tell me it's a g, you won't get $1,000. i think we need to define why choose that you're done, which are pretty expensive. think about him. he likes wine. i don't really like wine, to be honest with you. i like gradients.
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that was the most expensive thing that i think that we did while we were there. so they would pair they would pair a champagne chocolate and campaign chocolate and caviar. it was a three and it was like three different things. sweden, russia, someplace else. i'll that up. so let's be clear, because you lied in this doesn't tell you which one you lied. >> and why do you think you got it right here? well no, no, no, no. this is the truth, judge, and it is a lie. they lie. i don't need anybody to put bills. the only man who's ever put my bills completely is my daddy. >> things got so out of control that at one point the judge actually warned willis what? the judge in this case, the way i thought was very patient over her conduct on the stand. >> watch for yourself. 2020. did mr. wade ever you at a place that you had never been to? my in 14, 20, 21 before? i knew a phone call was going to be made and i was going to have to abandon my home as a
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result thereof. he never visited live that came to our has seen cell phones. you qualify that because of your home in south fulton. that's where i lived in 20 2020. did he ever visit you at a place that you resided? okay. i don't understand. once again, in 23, i live in town hall. oh. that's the only place i live in central fulton. that's before i had to abandon my home and my home and so forth. and i never. he never came. okay, so if you don't go someplace, you came live there, because that's what that's caution. that's going to be my first time. i have to caution that we have to listen to the questions as asked. and if this happens again and again, i'm going have no choice but to take your testimony. >> wow. even the media mob, they were forced to admit that today was a complete disaster for and her case against donald trump. >> take a look. don't let the legally is fool you. >> this is epic. this is monumental.
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if things are going in the direction we think fani willis to the court, it's game over for her. she will be disqualified. >> it's a mess for the office to be clear. regardless of what the legality is. >> it is a mess for the office and something they're going to have to deal with. they have put in front of a jury that is seeing all this playing out. >> it might be appropriate for me as well as to consider removing herself from this case now and turning the reins over to a senior official, the in the district attorney's office, and let him or her handle it, because this is getting ugly and it's getting messy. and my guess is it's not going to get better. >> now, we kind of saved the best part for last. this is fani willis as a candidate talking about this very issue and fulton county, georgia, residents deserves a day that won't be hooking up with their employees. take a look. >> because you're sitting with someone today that actually to make a difference because they deserve a day that won't
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have sex with his employees, because they deserve a day that won't put money in their own pocket. >> i certainly will not be choosing people today that work under me. let me just say that. >> now, earlier tonight, former president trump, he did weigh in on the drama from today, telling fox news that fani willis, while quote, badly tainted, is tainted and her case against him is a scam. here with reaction tonight, fox news contributor jonathan turley. i don't really know where to begin, jonathan, except to say that that judge was extraordinarily patient. i thought i found her to be defiant, combative, frankly, that that quote that she made as a candidate that, you know, people want a deal that's not to have, you know, and spend money, etc.. i'm like, wow. isn't that what this is evolved into? >> yeah, i actually thought the judge did a great job until
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the very end. i thought that he did lose control of his courtroom to willis, that she was able to go on and on. i on these tangents and i think most judges would have shut her down much sooner. he was very deferential and civil. and i think that's his style. he's a very good judge. but the end i was surprised how much she was allowed to go off on these tangents. >> but what was really damaging here is the fact that both of these attorneys now stand credibly accused of filing false information with courts. that's what they're prosecuting. defendants in this case for and in the case of mr.. when they went through the interrogatories that he answered in the divorce case. >> most of us view those answers now as demonstrably false. >> so the question is, if she didn't have this personal relationship with wade, would she really be keeping around
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under this cloud? most mostly prosecutors would say, look, you need to step aside. >> but she's not in. >> both of them are now putting their own interests ahead of the case and ahead of their office. and that only compounds the ethical in the case. yeah, well, she i mean, the accusation is so severe. i don't see any other choice but that she would have to be removed from the case. and considering that we now know he did not have the best qualifications since he never tried a felony case jonathan. and this is one of the biggest cases ever for the state of georgia and for the country. to me, if if they want to pursue something, they've got to go back in court. never mind the fact that i always thought rico statute that they used was ridiculous. >> what's your take? >> well, i've never been a fan of this case. and i think the rico theory is overextended. they had to really stretch it to the breaking point to try
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to ensnare donald trump. the attorneys that pled guilty earlier. notably did not plead guilty to the racketeering theory. they pled guilty to rather insular relatively minor crimes that avoided jail time and allowed them to keep their bar licenses. >> so they not be as good a set of witnesses for willis as she thinks. and sean, at the end of the day, it's that the court is going to dismiss this case. the question is really not just whether the court will disqualify one or both, but what is weighed and will this still doing in this case? >> they are clearly hurting their case. >> so this isn't really their case at all. right. i mean, this is supposedly the case of fulton county, and yet they seem to be holding it hostage to their own personal drama, which is playing out in this courtroom. >> but let me gently maybe disagree with you. if they are tainted and they're
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the ones that put this case together and he didn't have the qualifications he'd never tried a felony case before, jonathan. and she's benefiting financially with these lavish vacations that taking. how do you possibly stay with charges like this, knowing that the people involved in this were benefiting financially and that this was not motivated by their own personal gain? >> that to me impacts the entire case. she is the fulton county d.a. the buck should stop with her and she is beyond tainted here. i think it's a lot worse. i'm using kind language in my view, but i don't know how this case stand. >> i'm really having a hard time following you here. >> well, you know, look, i am not a fan of. this case never have been. but i'm telling you that if you look at these types of issues have been handled in the past, they have tended not to dispense with the entire
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case. >> they have tended to remove prosecutors. and i think the odds still favor that here. but they could end up delaying this case if both of them are disqualified fine. it's this is putting the judge in a very tough position as to how he's going to proceed. but what i saw today on that stand was embarrassing. i mean, both of these attorneys adopted bizarre semantic approaches, the two things that were clear. you know, she said, well, yeah, i gave him a job, but i don't view him as an employee under ethics rules, i view them as an agent. >> and then she said, yeah, i probably did get $100 or more from him, but he probably gave me an equal or greater amount. those are the types of finessed interpretations would never accept as prosecutors. keep in mind that prosecuting trump over what the meaning of the word find is, they're saying that when he said you can find 11,000
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votes, he was saying create them or invent them. and trump is saying, i was just telling them to do a statewide recount because that's all the votes i need to revert to change the outright. >> so in prosecuting him, have very little room in term in terms of interpretation. but when it came their own defenses, they were as creative as a hollywood producer. >> yeah, well, and by the way there's a lot of context, if you listen to that entire conversation or read the entire transcript of that call. donald trump's case was, i won by hundreds of thousands. i didn't win by just the 11,000 plus that would have put him over the top in georgia. he was saying, there's votes here. there's votes here. this is what you missed here and there. he did he believe it? i think he'd pass a lie detector test. that's my my, my belief. well, jonathan turley. yeah, but i also i direct your attention to how he how
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wade explained his answers on those interrogatories. the questions asked him if he had a relationship going 2022 at any point of his marriage or a separate and he just said, oh, i answered that and just assumed it only meant my and the lawyer was dumbfounded and said, i just read you the question. so that's the level of denial we saw today. >> unbelievable. all right, jonathan turley, thank you tonight. we appreciate it. here now with more reaction. we have fox news legal analyst ,gregg jarrett, harvard law professor alan dershowitz, as well as greg. we'll start you tonight on a couple of things here. okay. number one, uncle mollified overpaid lead attorney who is in a relationship with the d.a. that's leading this case, benefiting financially from the money that she is approving for payment for this guy. why would that not result not only removal, but if they want to pursue down the road, that would take a new prosecutor, a case, a new
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venue, etc.? well, and i think fresh eyes would say this isn't a racketeering in case dismissed. you know, fani willis sean proved that lawyers make hideous witnesses. >> i mean, her lover, wade's testimony was such a stooges train wreck that, willis sprinted to the witness stand to try to fix it. >> and then she down in this tantrum of belligerent rants. it was sort of an eerie impression of cruella de vil. she even screeched at the judge who banged gavel and had to call a recess. grudgingly willis and wade both admitted their affair, but then they claim ridiculously it didn't start until after he was hired, not before. listen to me. either way, it does not matter. the affair itself is a severe conflict of interest, an obvious impropriety, a violation egregiously of the canons of ethics that merits
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disqualification. and if the judge decides that the entire prosecution has been tainted, and i think it has, he can either dismiss the charges or more likely ship off to another office. and if that happens, new prosecutor will surely take a look at this and say this is legally unsound, this is not racketeering. it would need to be, in my view, professor, a new venue again, unqualified, overpaid lead attorney, paying being paid an exorbitant amount money. the d.a. benefiting from that money, a lavish. i believe that this case now needs to be dropped and i'll take it a step further. what happens to all the people that made plea deals? a lot of people make plea deals, not they're guilty, but because it takes the possibility of jail off the table and removes that pressure.
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>> would you agree with that characterization? i certainly would. and the people who pleaded guilty will probably seek to undo their pleas unless they're satisfied with the result. for me, the the issue is perjury. there is a plausible case, not an ironclad case, a plausible case that the two of them both committed perjury. >> he seems to have committed perjury, if not in the courtroom, in answering interrogatories where he swore under oath, essentially, that he did not have sex between the time he was married and the date signed, that admitting, however, that he did have sex when he thought the marriage was broken down. that's one thing. the thing is, this is a she said said a confrontation. we have a witness who. seems completely plausible. who said that? she admitted that she had a relationship with him during the period of time when she
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denied doing it. >> one witness against two witnesses. but remember, she testified under oath. hey, what you need for proof is one witness. the testimony. there was one witness, her friend, who testified that there was during the period of time that they denied it. so i think there's a plausible case for perjury here, but i think there's an open and shut case for disqualification based on the appearance of impropriety. look, when you admit that you paid all these trips on your credit cards, then the burden of proof shifts the other side to demonstrate that there was payback in cash. and the fact that there are no records and the payments all have records, but the repayments have no records. gives rise to a plausible interpretation that that's not true that there was financial benefit that accrued to the district attorney. therefore there's more than enough for the judge to say at least an appearance of impropriety. total disqualification of the office. start from scratch.
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put the case in a different district. let's see if an independent prosecutor thinks there's enough here for a rico prosecution. do you believe that will happen? exit question for both of your professional. >> let you go first. i'm not even a professor. okay. do you, greg, do you believe that will happen? >> yeah, i. i think it's 5050. that he'll ship it off to a different district attorney's office. maybe he should refer it to the state attorney for a complete new review. and again, as i said before, i'm fairly confident that any rational prosecutor who's independent objective, fair and neutral will look at this case and say, where in the world is there credible evidence that supports a racketeering charge?
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>> and i think they would conclude there is no evidence here. >> all right, professor, real quick, will that happen? what you said is a case? yes, because there is a case already in the district columbia, which covers the same issue. so there is no need for there to be a state case this. so it should be dismissed. all right, professor, thank. great. thank you. coming up, trump, team trump reacts to fani willis that disastrous day in court as we continue our coverage. >> a lot of other news straight ahead. stay with us. fox nation brings you to the border with two new exclusive specials exposing the crisis. i've never seen this bad. yesterday, there were more than 10,000 migrant encounters. not a single person crosses without paying somebody. 24/7 border crisis streaming. now. and this issue will destroy new york city without out of room. literally. why can't you stop it? jury traffic streaming now to a
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to say during one of her many outbursts today. >> if you're confused, you think i'm on trial. these people are on for trying to steal an election in 2020. i'm not on trial. no matter. >> how hard you try to put me on trial. now, trump called out willis following her testimony in an interview with fox news digital. the former president said, quote, the case will have to be dropped. whole thing was a scam to get money from the boyfriend. meanwhile donald trump was in new york city today where a judge denied his request to dismiss at what eight-year-old charges brought against him by album brag over all things stormy daniels. stormy stormy yet again. now that criminal trial is scheduled to begin on march 25th, but trump has vowed this will not stop him from hitting the campaign trail. president is awaiting more news out of new york tomorrow, where a very, very well of a judge that is not exactly trump's fan is going to, we know, rule against him in every
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way imaginable. in that civil fraud case. here now with more legal spokeswoman for the former president, eleanor harvey's with us. >> eleanor, i've said this from beginning. >> there's not a single there's not a chance, frankly, in . i see that donald trump is going to get any fair trial in new york. now they're going to start a trial about stormy daniels. we were talking about stormy daniels in 2016. that is eight years ago. and they're just they're only now in an election year. oh, they found it a convenient time after the previous d.a. passed on any charges. let's bring it up in an election year by the guy that allowed no bail for five guys on tape. illegal immigrants beating the hell out of two new york city cops. they got to go to the sanctuary state of california after they walked out of prison. no, no. bell gave the world the double finger and headed out to the west coast. wow.
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what a what a great state that is. yeah. yeah. it's really unbelievable, sean. you know, i wouldn't believe it if i wasn't the one sitting in these trials myself. i'll be honest with you. where they're trying to put civil attorneys in jail for objecting to evidence. this is the state of new york. this is where we are. and watching trial today, watching what was happening at that hearing. they're all the same. i have to be honest with you. i've seen it time and time again now. i've had the pleasure of working for the president for for the past few years. and i can you this is all corrupt. it is all absolutely election interference. there is no way, as you point out, that the stormy case would come about in the middle of an election, in the middle against the leading candidate. and you know who that was brought from. michael cohen, real reliable source we have there. so the desperation is real. the trump derangement syndrome is real, and it is pathetic and obvious. and now we're seeing money laundering and money funneling coming through. you can't make it up. >> they're going to the biden administration. they're taking visits to the
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white house. they're coordinating with other days and aigs. do not get twisted. he has done absolutely nothing wrong. but in the great state of york ,don't worry, they'll bring and put their nose in a private company and try and disgorge you for doing what? having a statement of financial that was under valued. but a judge will say, oh, maryland was worth $18 million. they definitely overvalued their statements of financial condition. well, yes, you're using ridiculous numbers like that. it is. it's crazy. it's like the january six committee. >> they have a predetermined outcome. the maximum penalty is is going to be given to donald trump maybe as early as tomorrow, from what i understand. okay. so judge engoron is going to say, okay, mar-a-lago this evaluation case, he's still sticking to his valuation of 18 million from mar-a-lago that that is far worse of a valuation than anything they're accusing donald trump of, number one. number two, they're going to cancel the whole
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trump family, put a conservatorship in place. he won't have control of his properties. cancel the whole family, the whole organization. what? fulfill a campaign promise from a pretty ambitious attorney general in that state? that seems to be what the reality is. on top of going back eight years now for stormy daniels. wow. all in an election year. >> how convenient. it's 100% what it is. and i got to tell you what i saw today was a lot like miss james in new york. it's a similar fact pattern. it's the similar arrogance that you're seeing come out of it, because they know they have these judges in their pockets and they have soros backing or whoever it is that reed hoffman's of the democratic party backing this. this is not what the courts are supposed to be used for, sean. and it's disgusting. it's disgrace. all i really want to say to any of the judges that are out there listening that anything left in terms of looking at the cases, looking at facts, looking at law, make our profession proud. >> because what seeing is,
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is complete politicization of our legal. it's not right. it's an election year. it's election interference. you shouldn't be tying up a candidate. and now we got stormy daniels. i mean, who her lawyer to jail ,michael cohen, just perjured himself, admitted to it on the stand. how much lower can we go read pomeranz is book if you have any questions about it. it's ridiculous. it's ridiculous. and it has to stop. >> sean honestly, the only way we're going to stop ridiculous and have to stop that. i don't think the president can get a fair hearing in. new york i don't i certainly don't believe, i think up 5% of the vote in d.c. i don't think he can get a fair trial there. all he certainly was never going to get one out of fulton county, georgia, maybe florida. he has a fair shot. but that case never have happened, especially in light of what we learn from the robert report about joe biden and his classified documents scandal, especially what we know about hillary clinton, no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute. wow. if that's not a deal justice system, i don't know what is. we'll give you the final.
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>> yeah, it's 100% right. don't forget we went after hillary clinton for something that we know is true. and the russia hoax. and we got fined $1,000,000 and sanctioned and the case got thrown out without ever even meeting the judge. i never met the judge one time, never spoke to him never walked into court. that is the state of our country right now. everybody we need to wake up and step up. that's the truth. and don't worry, the compliant media that lied about the russia hoax for three long years and never made a correction, no apologies, they peddle conspiracy theories, no consequences, nobody seems to care. sad times. elena haba. thank you. when we come back, wow, we're about to learn even more about joe biden's disastrous special counsel report. we'll check in with former speaker of the house newt gingrich. and i'll tell you why. team biden should be terrified tonight. straight ahead, a must in your medicine cabinet call coming on zach yams, the number
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anytime, anywhere. fox news radio owned sirius xm america is listening now. fallout continues for joe biden after the doj's report on his mishandling of classified documents. and now fox news digital. they are reporting that special counsel her will, in fact, testify in front of the house judiciary committee. that is next month. now, jim jordan is also demanding that joe biden's ghostwriter turn over any recordings, transcripts, other materials from his time working the president. her's report found that biden shared classified information with the ghostwriter on multiple occasions and suggested that the author deleted recordings after special counsel investigation began. by the way, since the report came out the media mob, they can't even cover for biden anymore. and the administration is angry. so their hack spokesperson for the white house counsel's office and some guy named
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ian sent a letter to the white house correspondents association, frustrated that the coverage of the doj report and outlined how news outlets could better cover the story. in other words, he basically didn't like the media and he's telling them how to properly regurgitate all the white house's liberal talking points ,just like they did for three years when they lied about russia and trump and collusion. that never happened. it was the reaction former speaker of the house fox news contributor newt gingrich is with us now. the night the report came out, you remember that joe had that hastily convened news conference. and in that news conference, he was outraged. she was angry. how the hell dare he. and he was talking about the fact that he mentioned in the report that he didn't remember his son beau's death, the data that death within years. well, now we find out and i'm certain that this was a leak from the white house. i'd bet everything i had on that.
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in fact, joe biden himself is, the one that brought it up, not robert, her. what's worse, the fact that he didn't remember or the fact that he didn't remember, that he was the one that brought it up. well, i think there was a fairly direct answer that serves the interests of the american people. forget republicans and democrats forget the congress, and that is to release the transcript, take out anything, involves a genuine secret and release everything. if it's true that in fact did not ask the question of biden's son and that biden himself it up. then what does it tell you? that part of deliberate defense at a white house press conference is to lie to the american people or as possible once again he just forgot he didn't remember who did
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what? i think that's a very serious issue. and as you know, i think that's way beyond politics. i think if it's true that we have a commander in chief who is literally incompetent, who couldn't government. and i think the issue for the attorney general is pretty straightforward. >> i mean, merrick garland, the other side. is it true that they cannot prosecute joe biden because he is too old and he has has too weak a memory and he would be too sympathetic, in which case, i think they have to look at the 25th amendment, because how can you tell the world we have a president who is so incompetent and has such deep problems cognitively that he could never get through a trial and a jury would always be sympathetic because they would think that he couldn't possibly have done anything because he's not capable of it now. i think biden is at that image. but if he is enraged, then the alternative is that he is available to be tried. they can't have it both ways.
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and i think that's what her really set up as the choice. and i think her testimony to the congress will almost certainly be devastating. just because it will reemphasize that this was a professional, methodical, serious effort. so the opposite of what we've been watching will fani willis in atlanta and her reached a conclusion that is pretty devastating about the capacity of the president on stage to actually do his job. >> well, i agree with you, i agree with josh hawley. it's either you're going to indict him because. they did say he did this willfully, or you invoke the 25th amendment. that would be up to merrick garland. now, if you look at her report ,it talks about this ghostwriter deleting the audio from his computer once the investigation was announced . law enforcement apparently ultimately recovered those audio files. i think the american people ought to be able to hear those. but do you what what should we do with the ghostwriter
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that deleted the audio recordings once the investigation was announced? it sounds like he knew that that could potentially be evidence. well, look, the standard for all this was set by hillary clinton, who had staff take a hammer and physically destroy the hard drive, who herself apparently deleted 32 or 33,000 emails. i mean, she is sort of a model for simply destroying the evidence. and as you know, they refused to prosecute her even though she clearly was guilty of very significant violations of law of dealing with those kind of documents. >> so now you have the same thing happening. one of the challenges in our current totally one sided legal system is that if you're a democrat, you can assume that, in fact the justice department, the fbi will protect
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you forever. you do everything it can to avoid hurting you. and if you're a republican, you can assume that they will do just exactly the opposite. you are a terrible mom for america, for the rule of law and for the constitution. it's certainly not equal application of our laws or equal justice under the law. that is exactly what we've been discussing a dual justice system. this is what the judiciary committee is investigating the weaponization of the doj and how it spent politicized. i think there's a lot to come here. so far, it seems to be helping trump, not hurting him. we'll find out in time. mr. speaker, thank you for being with us. when we come back, have brand new poll numbers tonight showing donald trump surging now in key swing states. we'll check in with kellyanne conway and tomi lahren, and they will explain why voters are turning to trump next. straight ahead. >> why do 96% of bull
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and together we can keep the legacies of our fallen alive. >> >> all right. >> new fox news poll show donald trump ahead of joe biden, two very important key swing states in north carolina. trump is leading biden by five points with a 50% margin of support while he holds a two point lead over the president in the swing state of michigan, which biden won in the 2020 election. now, this all as senator joe manchin continues to hint pretty strongly now at a possible party run for president, claiming or suggesting that he would consider a mitt romney or bob portman as potential running mates. here with reaction on fox news contributor kellyanne conway and, of course, the host of tomi lahren is fearless. there's no such thing as a fearful tomi lahren. tomi lahren is with us. kellyanne, let me start with you tonight and start with this idea of.
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you know, a no parties label, manchin and portman or manchin and mitt romney. what's your reaction? how big an impact would that have potentially on this election or on joe rodon? >> i think a joe manchin slash mitt romney or someone else as his running mate ticket takes more votes away from joe biden. and what's remarkable about those polls, sean, in both michigan and north carolina, when it's a two-person race, trump beating biden when it's a five person race, when you add in rfk jr of cornel west, jill stein, these third party candidates who are already on the ballot. then you see joe biden slipping even more in north carolina. trump goes from plus five to plus nine. so all of these attempts right now are helping biden bleed out. the other that's remarkable about these polls, it i don't think a no labels ticket would affect at all in michigan in the fox news poll. joe biden is at 68% among black voters. he won 93% of them in 2020. he is losing 25 points his own
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margin. also, trump is beating him. their states among voters under 45 and political independents to that, biden and biden won in 2020. look, i have this to say about no labels here. united states senator, you're labeled if your two united states senators on the ticket, you're labeled twice. you have a 22% approval rating for the united states senate. basically. and i like joe manchin is a nice guy seen around washington. he's good leader. he voted for the inflation reduction act. he voted against amy coney barrett. there's not a lot of they won't be able to have a lot of operative. one more thing a no labels typically joe manchin on it would still get beaten in his home state of west virginia by donald trump. you know, tommy, if these polls are accurate, let's say donald trump gets half of demographics that are traditionally democrat that kellyanne mentioned. it would be a blowout at that point for donald trump. and you see him bleeding support among key factions
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of the democratic party base. how real do you think this is or at the last moment, will these demographics come back in the numbers they had in 20 20? well, i don't want to be debbie downer. i want to be optimistic. but every time we think going to be this red wave and races that we should win, even this week with the george santos seat. and then a special election in pennsylvania republicans should be able to win these things. unfortunately, republicans are not winning these things that are very winnable. >> we're also we're looking at these polls were also assuming that joe biden is going to be the nominee. and i've been saying it for over a year now. i don't think joe is going to be the nominee. so republicans and donald trump have to prepare themselves for that. i also looking at these polls, it's nice to see donald trump ahead in some of these important states. but we also have to remember that joe biden at this point is essentially vegetable. his policies are horrible. his cognitive state is and it's on display and in donald trump is only leading
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that small percentage. donald trump should be crushing him by much higher margins. considering the physical and mental state of joe biden in this country. so i don't want to be a debbie downer. i don't want to be negative. but republicans, you have a few months to figure this out. you got to win elections and you've got to win electioneering. early voting mail in. voter registration. those things are going to be important. it's not enough to have a better candidate anymore. you got to have a good strategy, a democrats have mastered it. we better get in the game or we are going to lose and they'll demagogue abortion. >> and in the of district three in new york, tom suozzi was actually that, oh, democrats want to secure a border. we know that's a lie. kellyanne but i think tom is right on early voting, voting by mail. legal yes, ballot harvesting in swing states against better get their act together because they are way behind again. and i killed them on tuesday.
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there's no question the rnc has to your vote. >> i know president trump endorsed and i think it's incredibly important. and the state parties need to invest in the non parts of politics, sean. and that means not just ads, not just can it make sure people know you're taking a chance. grandpa can get of the bathroom, let alone the house on election day. i want his vote in october. let's go get it right. all right. thank you both. kellyanne, appreciate it. and tomi lahren, thank you. more "hannity" coming up straight ahead. been there, done that, messed around. i'm having fun. don't put me down. i'll never let you with allegra, allergies won't hold me back. allegra starts working two times faster than claritin . and unlike zyrtec, it won't make me drowsy. nothing beats allegro. it's the fastest non-drowsy 24 hour allergy relief cough.
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