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chemicals sending plumes of black smoke in the air. the biden administration pointed to what they call a robust response mobileizing several federal resources and agencies in the after math of the disaster saying they'll continue to hold norfolk southern responsible insisting it is not a political stunt. >> we'll see a president that goes out there whether it's a red state, blue state, urban or rural america to hear and make sure he is a president for all. >> behind us a group of protestors have gathered not only from east palestine but around the region protesting the federal government's response and the president's visit saying more than a year later is little too late. >> dana: thanks for being there for us today and we'll updates throughout. have a great weekend. everybody. harris faulkner will take you through the next hour. >> fulton county district
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attorney fani willis will not take the stand today. day two of her misconduct hearing and we watched and were riveted yesterday by her. the state of georgia in a surprise move says it has no further questions for the d.a. about her lover, nathan wade, the special prosecutor she hired. her testimony yesterday was wild and whacky and combative. and the big question remains what will it mean for former president donald trump's election interference case in georgia? she was leading it with a team. ahead of that team nathan wade. they were romantically entangled. the word romance is gentle. that was crazy yesterday. i'm harris faulkner and you are in "the faulkner focus." defense attorneys are going hard after fani willis and nathan wade as well as ex-friends and former business partners. one testified that nathan wade and fani willis were a couple
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three years before they said they were. wade's testimony played out live on the "focus" yesterday and district attorney willis was up next. hard to tell when she was playing defense and when she was playing offense. >> i probably had some choice words about some of the things you said that were dishonest within this motion. mr. wade is a southern gentleman. i very much want to be here so i'm not a hostile witness. >> it would be an adverse witness. your interests are opposed to miss merchant's. >> her interests are contrary to democracy, your honor, don't be cute with me in here and think you won't get an answer. you have been intrusive into people's personal lives. you think i'm on trial. these people are on trial for trying to steal an election. you have lied. you lied here, i think you lied right here. no, no, no, this is the truth, judge. it is a lie.
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it is a lie. mr. wade is used to women that as he told me one time, the only thing a woman can do for him is make him a sandwich. we would have brutal arguments about the fact that i am your equal. >> harris: she called nathan wade a southern gentleman, a southern gentleman who cheated on his wife with her. it was like a reality tv show. it was definitely real. constitutional scholar's jonathan turley's take how the judge ran the show. she was allowed to go on at lengths how these people are on trial for trying to steal an election in 2020. the judge who had been doing a fine job controlling the courtroom, seemed to surrender control to fani willis as she rambled on about women dating, the value of hoarding cash, and negotiating with foreign cab drivers. in "focus" former assistant
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district attorney for cobb county, georgia, phil holloway. let's go to steve harrigan live at the courthouse in atlanta. they have just put a former governor on the stand. >> that's right. a lot of surprises so far. yesterday was a surprise that fani willis took the stand. she had been fighting a subpoena for several days. everyone expected her on the stand today. a surprise she didn't show. now another surprise, the man they want to call to the stand, the witness they had, was not in court. he had a doctor's appointment. a lot of twists and turns. yesterday some fireworks from fani willis. she came in with a combative attitude and immediately tried to take control. >> it's highly offensive when they try to implicate you slept with somebody the first day you met with them and i take exception to it. >> bill: the key issue is when was nathan wade hired? was he hired before the affair with willis began or after?
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also the finances came under a lot of scrutiny. wade said when he and willis traveled wade paid by credit card, willis returned cash to him. when it was challenged willis hit back hard. >> i don't need anything from a man. a man is not a plan. a man is a companion. and so there was tension always in our relationship, which is why i would give him his money back. i don't need anybody to foot my bills. the only man who has ever foot my bills completely is my daddy. >> the judge has said there won't be a ruling today and also cautioned there is a low bar in the case. the appearance of misconduct could be enough for disqualification. >> harris: that was an important part of all of this. setting the bar and find than out how low the bar was. we learned interesting details about fani willis. we'll get into it with my first guest. thank you very much. in "focus" now phil holloway, former assistant district
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attorney for cobb county, georgia. first of all i follow you on social media so i know some of your thoughts. but i want you to share with the audience to "the faulkner focus" what you thought about the job that judge did yesterday. >> well great to be with you, of course always. i think the judge did a good job on balance, though i do think that he sort of surrendered control to d.a. willis when she took the stand. i wish he had done a better job of reining her in and allowed defense lawyers to rein her in better. she took the stand and came in there and obviously angry. and she had a lot she wanted to vent about. the witness stand is not the right place to be venting your emotions when you are angry. to be honest with you, this is just my opinion, i thought and it still seems like she was watching the witnesses'
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testimony. you aren't supposed to do that. the defense invoked the rule of sequestration. it appeared she was mad because she saw the testimony and cross examination of nathan wade and upset her. it is evolving into an ethical dumpster fire. if they can prove satisfactorily that she and or nathan wade have made material misrepresentations to the court then she could be in very big trouble. this is potentially disbarment territory if they can make out that case. >> harris: i will get to the wads of cash that were stashed here and there and traded hands and so on and so forth. axios headline, donald trump's attorneys have multiple reasons for hope right now. some of them possible removal of d.a. fani willis, federal election trial indefinitely postponed. first trial will be the hush money case and legal experts say it is the weakest of the four.
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the u.s. supreme court will likely put him back on colorado's primary ballot. phil, your thoughts on that. >> i agree with that. and let's take it just in the context of this atlanta case in fulton county. let's just say the judge does rule to remove her. then the state will appeal that. on the other hand if the judge rules that she is not going to be removed, then the defense can appeal that probably pre-trial and so this can go to the georgia court of appeals and then the georgia supreme court and any resolution of this trial is going to be put out well beyond the election in november of this year. so this at a minimum is going to delay things. the prospect of conducting a criminal trial. let's say donald trump wins the election. what will the judge do with that then? will he try to put a sitting president on trial in fulton county, georgia? i think the odds of that are pretty slim. but in any event, this is quite
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the spectacle. we have a mess on our hands. this is not a good look for fulton county, for atlanta and quite frankly an embarrassment to the legal profession here in georgia. >> harris: i want to get to the money now. were you surprised they focused on the money? second, just the details we heard about what she was doing with wash. at one point she said cash is fungible. i thought cash was taxable. were you surprised >> the defense had to do the best they could to show she was personally enriched. that's a key part of their claim of conflict of interest. that's the kind of thing that could go towards getting her removed. they had to drill down on that. it seems to a lot of people, myself included, that the explanation being that she reimbursed nathan wade in
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untraceable cash seemed to be just a little too convenient. at the end of the day the question is going to be for the judge to decide does he believe their testimony? does he believe that cash explanation? if he does, regardless of how she came across on the stand, if the judge is satisfied that she reimbursed nathan wade in cash, then she could prevail on this issue. it is a credibility call for the judge. >> harris: we'll move on. just one last comment. i thought that there was some discrepancy between the amounts of cash and the times they were handed between -- from her to nathan wade. and that could be a problem. if you move $10,000 of anything your bank flags that. the i.r.s. wants to know what you are doing with big pockets of cash. she was careful to say it was never more than 2500. interesting if you put their testimony side-by-side with the cash. we'll move on. it is the white house versus department of justice at this
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point. and the point of contention, phil, is that special counsel robert hur's brutal biden classified documents report that labeled biden as elderly with a poor memory. the white house objects to that characterization. in an unusual move the d.o.j. wrote directly to the white house saying robert hur's report was consistent with legal requirements and department policy and not gratuitous. our legal editor said this. >> let me translate this d.o.j. letter to the white house. what they're saying to president biden is we're just as unhappy with you as you are with us. president biden has repeatedly violated d.o.j. white house norms by commenting on open and ongoing investigations and prosecutions when former president trump would say anything about d.o.j. all hell would break loose. now president biden is doing that all the time. >> harris: it's also the white house versus journalists that
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cover them. the white house accused media outlets of striking inaccuracies that misrepresent the special counsel's report on the president. the white house correspondent's association president clapped back saying no, it does not. cannot and will not serve as a repository for the government's views of what is in the news. the president and white house have been railing against the report as we know ever since it came out. just this quick point. it was supposed to be good news for the president. he didn't have charges pressed against him. we saw the truth from somebody who spent five plus hours with him. >> i'm of the camp that i don't think that the president's current mental status or how a jury might theoretically perceive him if he is a defendant in a criminal case, i don't think that should be part of the charging decision. that is a consideration for a prosecutor to make. when maybe they are considering
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a plea deal or perhaps on sentencing, perhaps an issue for competency to stand trial. nothing to do with whether or not there is a crime committed. i'm old enough to remember when clinton advisor sandy berger got prosecuted for walking out of a scif with classified material. that's exactly what joe biden did when he was a senator decades ago. this material literally got up and walked out on its own from a senate scif and wound up in his garage for god knows how long and that is a crime. it is plain and simple it is a crime, a prima facie crime and needed to have been charged. >> harris: you think there was a case to charge him and the well he is an elderly man with a poor memory was not a good enough reason not to charge him. what should happen next? >> that has nothing to do with whether or not there is probable cause to believe a crime was committed. he should have been recommended for charges. they don't indict a sitting
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president. he should be facing charges at a minimum for walking out of a senate scif because whether or not he is a sympathetic elderly man with potential dementia. if a sitting senator walked out of a scif with classified information that demands criminal charges. >> harris: we both know that likely he wouldn't remember that and could make a compelling, you know, show of all the times his memory has failed to prove that he couldn't remember that. it may be that robert hur knew what he was up against. we'll see and cover the news as it happens. phil holloway, thank you very much. biden's border crisis rages on. now immigration and customs enforcement or ice says it may have to release thousands of illegal immigrants from detention because they don't have the money to hold them. some grim new polling for the president on the border. of course you know he could use his executive pen to deal with a
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lot of this in an emergency. and it is. plus the democrat divide over israel is getting nastyer and more personal. >> there is blood on the hands from those who who -- they want to repeat october 7th again and again. that is the goal of hamas. and that is the goal of those who support hamas. >> harris: was he talking about the lone democrat to not condemn hamas's use of rape as a war weapon or the anti-israel protestors in the house this week? maybe he was talking about both. but he was angry and hurt. congresswoman kat cammack in "focus." providing for your family is a top priority. what happens between affordable healthcare. christian healthcare ministries could you save up to 40% today. as a member you can choose your provider without network restrictions.
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>> so the president hasn't articulated a position what we're actually going to. that has led to a lot of issues on capitol hill about securing ukraine funding. for the speaker our members are not wanting to fund ukraine if there is nothing on the border. >> harris: byron donalds there clearly placing blame for lack of action on border security, the crisis bad enough now that house democrats have put their own plan out. likely a non-starter in the republican-led house. it calls for more manpower at the border and in immigration courts. more pathways for legal residency and citizenship for people who came here illegally and more processing centers.
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ice may release thousands of illegal immigrants and slash holding spaces for detainees because they are out of money. $7 hundred million shortfall. a former immigration judge told lawmakers this yesterday. >> i also found that when i was an immigration judge i later tried to determine how many of the people that i had ordered removed that their removal had been done from the united states. which was something fairly easy to do under prior administrations. i could not substantiate that a single individual i had entered an order of removal against had been removed by this administration. >> it is shocking. >> harris: we'll pull away for breaking news inside that courtroom. you see fani willis's dad now has taken the stand, john floyd iii will be speaking. let's tap in here. this is the fulton county d.a. and her lover nathan wade's case in front of a judge. let's watch. >> i've tried cases all over the
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country and i've tried the longest, the first lawyer to try international criminal court. i was with the international criminal tribe yoonal in rwanda and the hague in netherlands. >> the center of gravity was washington, d.c. >> correct, i've tried cases in west virginia, virginia, maryland, florida, i mean, california. >> all of them. >> and do you -- sir, can you tell the court, do you have any children? >> i have one daughter, fani willis. >> and i want to direct your attention back to 2019, okay? back in 2019, can you tell the court did you move here to atlanta? >> i was living in johannesburg,
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south africa, and unfortunately for some reasons i could not get an extended visa. when i retired from the practice of law in 2018, i moved to south africa and i had to leave south africa and i did then come to atlanta. >> and do you, sir, remember about the time period in 2019 when you moved in with your daughter here in atlanta? >> it would have been the spring or summer of 2019. >> and after you moved here, did you get a driver's license to confirm your residency in atlanta? >> well, my driver's license for the district of columbia was going to expire on my birthday in october. and yes, i did get a license here in the state of georgia.
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>> your witness. >> if we could take a look at something marked as state's exhibit. >> my eyes are very bad and one of the reasons i retired. so i need a magnifying glass. thank you. yes, i see what is issued on 9/28, 2019. >> before we get there, do you recognize this? >> my driver's license. >> is it a fair and accurate copy of your physical driver's license? >> absolutely. >> the state would render that into evidence. >> it's submitted. state exhibit 2 submitted for the record. >> for the record the state will
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supplement with a redacted copy of the license. the current copy is not redacted with address and things of that nature. >> do we need to mark it differently? >> i will mark it as 2a. >> you talked about when your drivers license was issued and when was it here your georgia driver's license issued? >> it was on 9/28/2019. >> september 28, 2019. now, when you moved into district attorney willis's home, who lived there? >> well, my daughter lived there, i lived there, and from time to time our grandchildren -- my grandchildren would come. >> okay. and did your grandchildren. were they at school coming and going? >> exactly. i think they were in school in various jurisdictions. >> and during the time.
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how long did you live at or miss willis at her home in fulton county? >> she was forced to move after she was elected. i don't know if you want me to go through the whole thing but if your honor will indulge me. she was sworn in on january 1st of 2021, and on or about the three of february, probably 5:30 a.m. in the morning, there were people outside her house cursing and yelling and calling her the b word and n word and just -- it was bizarre, okay? >> objection? >> i would -- [inaudible]
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>> he is saying he was personally present to hear these things? >> yes. >> overruled. >> and fortunately the neighbors called the police and disbanded, you know, disbanded the group and, you know, just -- it was just -- i hadn't seen anything exactly like it before. >> and after that happened, can you tell the court did miss willis have to move from her home? >> yes, she was forced to leave. >> can you tell the court after she was forced to leave, shortly after she was sworn in, did you remain at her home in fulton county? >> yes, i stayed there really until 2022, i guess. >> and from what you described, did you fear for her safety? >> absolutely. i mean, not only did i do that,
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i mean, the south fulton police brought somebody, a man with a dog. there had been so many death threats and they said they would blow up the house and kill her and kill me and kill my grandchildren. on and on and on, it became -- i was concerned for her safety. >> and after those concerns came to your attention and after what you heard and saw that day, you remained at the house? >> yes. >> can you tell the court with what you just described why did you remain living at the district attorney's home in fulton county? >> i believe it's relevant based on a lot of the questions asked yesterday of ms. willis about the security threat and the fact that it was implied the threats were not necessarily real in the
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sense that mr. floyd remained in the home. many questions about the fact that he remained and her children could still come and go to the house is relatively based on the testimony elicited yesterday. >> the south fulton police put a car in front of the house permanently. police car. that was thing one. thing two they brought a person with a dog sometimes more than once a day, twice a day and they would circle the house to look for bombs. i knew that that was a house that my daughter had worked for. it was a brand-new house, she was the only one who had lived there. four bedroom brand-new house and i wanted to -- somebody needed to protect the house and i stayed there to take care of the house, to take care of the yard and to take care of that also
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somebody sprayed again the b word and n word on the house and i don't think my daughter even knew that. i cleaned it off and called the police and the south fulton police. i'm sure they have the records of all the things that happened and all the neighbors, i notified all the neighbors to look out and watch out. it was so crazy. it was just so crazy. we would have people show up in a parked car. there was a guy parked for probably eight hours in front of the house. and we would call the police and, yeah. >> now at the time that you lived there with miss willis and i guess even when you remained, so during the time period of 2019 to the end of 2020, are you aware if miss willis was dating someone? >> yes, she did. she had a boyfriend when i first
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got there. >> and did you meet her boyfriend? >> often. >> do you know him by a specific nickname? >> deuce. >> can you tell the court while you were living there, how often would you see him? >> sometimes every day, sometimes every other day. he was a disc jockey or something and he had all this paraphernalia i would have to move out. it was a thing with the things that played music and so forth. >> now, when you moved in in 2019 and throughout the years and year 2020, 2021, had you ever met someone named nathan wade? >> i did not meet nathan wade
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until 2023 about a year ago when a reporter interviewed me. that was the first time i met him. >> you said it was in 2023. >> right. 2023. >> and i know you said you hadn't met him until 2023, but when you were living at ms. willis's house in fulton county did you ever meet mr. wade in 2019? >> absolutely not. >> 2020? >> absolutely not. >> ever seen him at her house in 2021? >> never. >> the first time that you met mr. wade was in 2023? >> lets me say something. mr. wade said he remembers seeing me -- i do remember some -- i remember a fraternity and there is this thing that goes on between fraternities, mr. wade
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is a member of alpha file -- alpha phi alpha. i know there was bantier between me and a couple of guys. he said he remembers me. i don't remember him. >> prior to that experience that you are talking about as well as i guess your official meeting in 2023 had you ever even heard his name? >> no, never. >> i don't think i have any further questions. >> miss merchant? >> thank you. how are you? >> fine. >> good, thank you. a couple questions. on monday we heard you were in california. do you have a place in california? >> people always ask me about where do i live. i guess i live right here sitting in the seat right now but yes, the answer is i have a
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place in los angeles. >> you do. all right. do you share time split time between los angeles and georgia? >> actually i'm working on a documentary film and supposed to be being filmed not for this trial but filmed right now. it was planned. we stopped it because they asked me to come here. i'm working on a documentary and i will be in california until i finish the documentary if we don't have another actors' and writers' strike. >> do you own property in california? >> no, i live with a friend of mine. >> okay. and when did you first move to -- let me qualify with the dates. did you spend any time in 2019 in california? >> no. and the reason i didn't is that when i first came here, the answer is no, i did not. what happened was covid. once covid hit, that i mean i
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was just paralyzed. i couldn't go anyplace, i couldn't do anything. i'm a theater buff. i used to go to the theater at least once a week but when covid hit, i just couldn't. i couldn't go to the dentist, which i need to do or i just -- it was just things so i was just stuck. i was stuck there. >> i believe covid hit in 2020. in 2019 did you spend any time in california? >> before covid was even here in the united states. remember, i lived in south africa and traveled the world. i knew covid was coming before. i knew covid was around before. they may have announced it in 20, but, in fact, i knew about it and i knew what was happening in 19. >> so let's walk through 2019 then. you said you moved here in september. >> i didn't say that.
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i moved here probably prior to september. in september is when i got the driver's license. i probably moved in the springtime. >> i'm sorry, you said spring-summer. that's when you moved here. up until summer-summer of 2019, where did you live? >> i lived in johannesburg -- well, i lived in washington, d.c. 2018. i had planned to retire for the rest of my life in south africa. i had worked for nelson mandela and the free mandela and someone i had gone to law school, he had located there after mandela was freed from prison and became president. i was going to live there the rest of my life. unfortunately because of political reasons i could not stay in south africa and i was forced in a sense to come back to the united states. >> so let's focus in on the period from -- let's start with
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october of 2019. we'll call that the relevant period. october 2019 until the end of 2019, were you in georgia every single day of that year? >> absolutely. >> now let's move to 2020. every single day before i move on, every single day in 2019 you slept at your daughter's house, correct? >> that's correct. >> let's start in 2020. the entire year did you travel anywhere? >> no. >> you didn't travel at all that year. >> no. i didn't go to the movies, which upset me also. >> that entire year 2020 you remained here in georgia. >> right. >> in 2021 did you do any traveling? >> no. >> so when did you move back -- when did you start this documentary film in los angeles? >> what i had been doing to occupy my time was i was writing my own memoir. as i went into my family
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background i discovered something and that's what got me to working on the documentary. i want you to understand what was going on in my life. i pitched my -- i have a movie script called bad blood. i have a movie script i'm trying to sell. so i tried to sell that. i just happened to mention something that happened during the civil rights movement, it's called the snick five, the legendary peter fits simmons was interested and so with him and smith we're now doing the documentary. >> i don't want to interrupt you. when i was asking is when you moved to los angeles. not what you moved there for. >> you keep saying moved. i haven't moved to los angeles. i spent more time in california in oakland if you really want to be.
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because peter is basically san francisco based. we're working on the documentary. >> okay. >> i was in los angeles because i was going to the pan african film festival and that's why we were there and the way hollywood works is when you make connections in film festivals are the place to try to sell ideas and meet people and organize things. >> you still own property in washington, d.c., correct? >> no, i don't. >> you don't own property at 1467 roxanne yeah road north weise. i used to live there. >> you owned that property when you moved here in 2019? >> yes. >> and you owned it in 2020, correct? >> well, now you talk about very complicated issue. i left the property. there was a dispute between me. i got a reverse mortgage company and there was a dispute between
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me and there and i just -- i walked away from it. >> you walked away from it with almost $3 hundred thousand? >> what's the relevance of that. >> where he lived and registered to vote. >> what does the money he got relevant? >> the only proof i have he owned that address. i can move on though. when did you sell that property? >> i didn't. the reverse mortgage company took it. >> okay. so in 2019, when you got your driver's license here, the next day you registered to vote, correct? >> i think it may have been the same day. maybe the next day, i don't remember. >> you didn't own property in georgia that day? >> i was living with my daughter. >> you said that you met mr. wade -- you remember you met in 2023, right? that was the first time? >> correct.
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>> you said something about with mr. isikoff or did he tell you? >> i was being interviewed by mr. isikoff and he walked in and i met him that was the first time. he walked into the office and -- >> where were you being interviewed? >> at the district attorney's office. >> mr. wade walked into that interview? >> yes. >> so miss willis had not told you about mr. wade prior to that? >> absolutely not. >> she didn't tell you anything about their relationship before you met him that day. >> no. >> but mr. wade remembers meeting you in 2020? >> he said that at my daughter's swearing in. i do remember that we were having bantier about fraternities. other than that. >> at your daughter's swearing in. >> right. >> that's all i have. just one moment.
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>> good morning, sir. >> how are you, counsel >> i'm fine. i will try to ask you some specific questions if we could. >> i will give specific answers if i can. >> perfect. the driver's license at dress, i won't publish state's exhibit 2, but is the address on that driver's license the home that you are referring to as your daughter's in south fulton? >> absolutely. >> it was unclear to me, maybe no one else it's unclear to me. when did you stop living at what i would call your daughter's home in south fulton? >> things got so bad and threats got so many, even against me, that the house became is
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basically uninhabitable. i got tired of sleeping in one room one day. i would say december of 2022, something like that. >> december of 2022. >> right. that's about right, yeah. >> you had indicated -- i didn't hear it -- when was your daughter, ms. willis, when was she sworn in as district attorney? >> january 1, 2021. >> did you indicate that there was an incident -- i know you've described it. was that incident on february 3, 2021? >> that's my best recollection. >> my question is after february 3rd of 2021, how much longer did miss willis stay at the house before she moved somewhere else? >> very short period of time. and i cannot be precise, but i would bet all the money i ever
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made it wasn't more than a month and a half, if that long. >> the best of your recollection, the end of february, beginning of march give or take of 2021 when miss willis would have moved to a different location. >> exactly. >> did miss willis return to the house, the house you were in, at any point in time that you can remember? >> from time to time she and her security might show up for her to pick something up or take something or something. but she always would come with her security. >> my question was poorly worded. did she come back permanently to her house? >> absolutely not. absolutely not. >> as far as you are aware, once ms. willis left the house, her house, the south fulton house in either late february or march of 2021, the best of your recollection she has not returned to that home to live. >> no. it became uninhabitable.
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it just -- you know, i mean -- i would have to walk around that house looking out of every window. i made a habit of having to walk around the whole house. i got lights so that if somebody would come at night in the back so that those kinds of were reflecting lights. i had those put up. >> all i was interested in is whether she had ever returned. >> the answer is no. >> when miss willis, when your daughter left the home, time period end of february, beginning of march give or take 2021, do you know where she moved to? >> no. and i didn't want to know. i intentionally did not want to know. i was not -- if somebody stuck a gun to my head and i could tell them i wasn't going to tell them anyway but i didn't want to
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know. >> if you didn't want to know you never visited her at the place she moved to? >> i never did. never did. >> okay. do you know how long she stayed at the first place that she went to after she left her house before she moved to a second place? >> what i know and this is hearsay, counsel, is that my daughter had to move something like four times. >> do you know -- >> i don't know any place. i was taken one time for a christmas day. i've only seen my daughter -- this is very hard for me to say -- but during the period my daughter left, i have only seen my daughter 13 times because i can't -- we've never seen each other more than maybe three hours because of, you know, the nightmare threats against her and me. >> i understand that and from the perspective of being a father myself i understand what that means.
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i will move away from that. i was trying to get an idea date-wise. let me try to get one more date. in 2023 when you were being interviewed by one of the gentlemen that wrote the book at the d.a.'s office and mr. wade came in, can you give us other than 2023, what the date would be? >> i'm sorry, i can't. >> spring, summer, any idea? >> i would guess spring or summer but i can't -- i'm sorry. >> you've already indicated to your recollection that was the first time you have met mr. wade. >> absolutely. >> not arguing with you about that. i want to go to miss willis's boyfriend that you referenced. you met miss willis's boyfriend when you came here in 2019. >> correct. >> and you met him on one occasion, several occasions? >> no, i saw him often. >> there was no secret that she
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was dating this man. >> not from me. >> not from me. >> again, he was a disc jockey of some kind. i think he had a government job during the day, i don't know what it was. but apparently he would do weddings and so forth and so on. he was a disc jockey and played music and all his stuff was always in the way and i had to push it aside. >> in your daughter didn't keep him from you, correct? >> no. we lived -- my daughter and i lived in the same house. he came and went, you know. >> right. now, when did you learn that your daughter had a romantic personal relationship with mr. wade? >> about seven weeks ago when -- as a matter of fact, i just found out when other folks found
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out. >> your daughter, as i understand it, never told you one time in the year of 2022 that she was dating mr. wade, correct? >> that's correct. >> and until recently, you didn't know from anyone, including your daughter, that she dated mr. wade, correct? >> that's correct. >> that is whatever the relationship is between father and daughter, she kept that a secret from you, correct? >> correct. that's all i need to know. >> mr. stockton? >> good morning. when your daughter moved or left the house that she owned, did she say anything to you about having a large savings of cash?
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>> oh no, no. see, maybe -- excuse me, your honor, i'm not trying to be racist. it's a black thing. i was trained and most black folks, they hide cash or they keep cash and i was -- no, i trained you always keep some cash because i've been places and just because of the color of my skin, for example, i took a fellowship at harvard when my daughter was just -- if i might, when she was just, you know, maybe three years old and i remember going to a restaurant in cambridge, massachusetts and i had an american express credit card and maybe a visa or whatever, and i had a lot of what they call travelers checks. i don't know if they still have
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those. travelers checks. and there was a sign said use a credit card, for whatever reason the man would not take my american express credit card. so i pulled out my visa card and he wouldn't take my visa card. then i pulled out my travelers checks and he said we don't take checks. these were travelers checks, money. i had a $ten bill. i won't forget this as long as i live. and he said the bill for my wife at the time fani's mother was $9.95. i had a $ten bill. i always remember that. but even before that i've always kept cash. you know. i've told my daughter you keep six months worth of cash always. for example. i had three saves in my house. i put some of my client's stuff there, too. things i didn't want other lawyers to be -- you are always in a firm and i knew that there
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was special conditions so some of my clients' things i would bring home and put them in the safe. i have always kept saves and as a matter of fact i gave my daughter her first cash box and told her always keep some cash. >> is that a yes? >> yeah. >> absolutely. >> that's all i've got, judge. >> mr. durham. >> no questions. >> mr. mcdougal. >> no questions. >> mr. rice. >> no questions. >> mr. gillen. >> it's still morning. good morning, sir. >> good morning. how are you? >> just fine. just a few questions following up. when you were talking about when you learned about mr. wade and your daughter, correct, now, did your daughter tell you in around october of 2022 that she had
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gone on a caribbean cruise with mr. wade to the bahamas. ? >> the answer is i knew my daughter had gone but i did not know who she went with or what the circumstances were. i knew she had gone out of town but i didn't know with whom. >> and did she tell you in november of 2022 that she had gone to aruba and stayed at a resort there in aruba for three days with mr. wade? did she tell you that? >> the answer was again i knew she went out of town. i didn't know where she went. she told me she was going out of town and out of the country and she would be gone. other than that, that was all. >> okay. did she tell you in march of 2023 that she was going to belize for several days with mr. wade? >> same answer. i knew she would tell me she was going out of town and she may or
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may not have told me where she was going but she would be gone for a couple of days. >> in 2023 you were in many days you would be out in california, correct? >> some days i would be in california, correct. >> did she tell you in may of 2023 that she was traveling to napa valley with mr. wade so maybe you could see each other when she visited california with mr. wade? >> this answer is no. >> is first time you ever met mr. wade or learned about mr. wade to your recollection was in 2023. >> that's correct. >> that's all i have. your honor, thank you. >> m a couple of quick question. good morning, sir. i know i can't see you. >> i can't see you, either. see if we can change the screens
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to show the attorney. >> i'm an a phone so it is difficult. can you turn your screen on, though? >> i'm trying to. does that work? >> just hold one more moment. proceed. >> sir, you seem to know about the issue of cash in this transaction, said it was a black thing. how did you know that the cash would be an issue in this testimony? >> i was asked for it and i was prepped by the lawyers and they asked me about it. what else?
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>> and did you speak with mr. wade about your testimony? >> no. >> did you speak with your daughter about your testimony? >> she may have been present when the lawyers were. i really don't remember. >> if mr. wade and your daughter were dating you wouldn't have known that until your daughter told you. >> maybe i'm not understanding your question, counsel. so maybe you want to restate. what is it that you are asking me? >> if it wasn't clear i can reask the question and rephrase it. if mr. wade and your daughter were dating, you wouldn't have known that unless your daughter told you. >> i did not know that they were dating. and when you were talking about the cash, i didn't know -- i don't know what you are asking me. what i told my child from the time she was a child is always have some money. always have some money.
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if you go on a date so people don't try to stick you and you want to leave whoever. always keep some cash, okay? >> mr. floyd, you answered the question that the attorneys prepped you for that. that's all i wanted to know. that's it, your honor. >> no question. >> mr. floyd. if it wasn't common for your daughter to confide in her about her romantic life at all. >> no. and i haven't confided in her about mine when i had one, okay? >> and you wouldn't have known about her boyfriend -- >> object. >> i think that might have been a still off mute. let's keep going. >> you wouldn't have known about her boyfriend the disc jockey had you not been living with her, is that correct?
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>> that's correct. >> overruled. >> nothing further. >> did he answer the question? >> he said that's correct. >> by a show of hands any redirect on those points only. >> when were you prepped by the lawyers, when this prep session was? >> i just got off the plane on tuesday night. i think i was probably drooling at the mouth i was so tired. i got in wednesday -- it must have been wednesday. >> and did you talk about any of the testimony from yesterday or watch any news reports or anything like that? >> absolutely. you can't turn the tv the first thing. i listen to conservative radio a lot. last night all they talked about this case for five hours. >> were you aware of the testimony your daughter gave yesterday was. >> unless you don't have the radio on or the television on and unless you don't read the
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ajc or any other, "new york times" or whatever which i do every day, of course. >> so is it fair to say nobody instructed you you were under the rule of sequestration. >> or under subpoena, either. >> thank you. >> anything else? seeing and hearing none, thank you, mr. floyd. >> thank you very much, your honor. a pleasure to appear in front of you. >> thank you. miss cross, was the state planning to call additional witnesses? >> not at this time, your honor. we are trying to accommodate if there is last-minute schedule this afternoon. >> okay. even if mr. bradley testifies to some extent, it is still the potential the state has no further witnesses >> i anticipate one more will be available this afternoon but that would be it. >> there are potentially more state's witnesses, all right
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