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first responder shot and killed while responding to a domestic abuse call in the minneapolis suburb the suspect is reportedly dead after negotiations with a swat team on the scene for this is a new hour of "fox news live" i have ar arthel neville, hi er. super hello edwin thank you for joining us i'm eric shawn for their shock, sadness and on the search for answers in burnsville, minnesota right now waiting for more details what led up to this deadly shooting. as you can see law enforcement agencies honoring the fallen officers and the medic with a procession that ended about an hour ago. leading the bodies from the hospital to the medical examiner's office. condolence messages also pouring in for the victims and their families. this triple shooting another reminder of the dangers that our first responders face every day. madison is live on this right now very quick to state

m negotiations with the suspect lasted for about four hours until the suspect later died. we do know there were seven children inside of the home during all of this. obviously a very terrifying situation for the deadly shooting happened in the suburb 15 miles southeast of minneapolis what one neighbor calls a wonderful neighborhood full of family and friends. that same neighbor cities woken up by gun shots from 5:30 a.m. in the morning. >> after the loud bangs in conjunction with the loud bangs we heard a lot of rapidfire. a lot of gunshots could not even say how many it is really scary. i mean having that happen that close to where you sleep at night is terrible. my kids are actually not at home this weekend, thank god progress according to officials this all stemmed from a call for a family

in danger but fox affiliate in minneapolis said there was an extremely heavy police presence outside of the scene this morning. the streets were lined with swat vehicles, as police cars, firefighters and ambulances according to the associated press. we noticed one of the armored vehicles windshield had a bullet holes in it. minnesota governor is calling the incident horrific and it says we must never take for granted the bravery and sacrifices our police officers and first reminders make every day my heart is with their families today and the entire state of minnesota stands with burnsville. we are hearing from others like senator amy klobuchar, the minneapolis police department and other leaders in law enforcement around the country sharing their condolences over this deadly shooting. we are still waiting to get confirmation how to get -- what happened to the other people inside the home a hoping to lean that and a lot more details are

judged by the bullet holes in the vehicle there may have been a fierce firefight with the suspect will get details and bring them to the audience as soon as we can. >> right now we are going to bring nypd inspector paula morrow fox news contributor. paul, this is so sad here we have listening to madison's report here you've got police and swat negotiated for four hours but seven children involved. rapid gunfire heard an armored vehicle pierced with a gunshot. what can you piece together so far? and also where it might police be in their investigation at this point? >> wando things we should mention i heard ted williams mentioned earlier in the show it's entirely accurate as domestic calls are one of the calls the police really dread. they're very highly charged you do not know what you're walking into.

they're a little counterintuitive every cop has a story of going into break up a husband and wife dispute, the husband's about to be arrested than the wife starts yelling don't arrest my husband and she's the one that jumps on your back. they are very highly charged a very unpredictable. this sounds like a situation where the two officers responding and the emt were likely walking up to the house when the fatal shots occurred i only surmise that because if there is a five hour negotiation with the responding esu team the swat team they would not have taken that long of the victims were inside the location. again it is just speculation but one of the things we know is we have to hold too much speculation very often the initial reports are erroneous of. i suspect he fired on them while they were unawares and walking up to the location. they might not have known the suspect they might not have known what prior calls had occurred there. and of course you have a five-hour standoff which is not

uncommon because you take all the time you need that's an axiom of hostage negotiation unless it looks like something imminent is going to occur. >> as you pointed out there so many questions unanswered but to your point about how dangerous domestic dispute calls are for police and first responders i heard ted williams say that as well. we have found out through madison's latest reporting at this .7 children were possibly incited at home. just the unknowns police and first responders are dealing with when they do answer these calls. what does that tell you in terms of the number of people who could potentially have been inside of the place? oafter not hearing about a wife or significant other at sounds like he was there just with them but you never know it could be a

custody battle sort of the situation. obviously the fact there were all these kids in the house. by the time the swat teams arrives they're going to the resident's name, the situation how many kids might be in that they will have done a lot of backgrounding. whether they told him or not they'll know they were children in the mix and they have to proceed on that basis. that is his leverage you do not want any more injuries. he has already revealed a full willingness to shoot and that is the continuum in these things at one end of them you have devolved a situation where police leadership gathered and you know what happened there. on the other hand you have a situation you possibly can await the suspect out so he doesn't do something precipitous. you remove them without further loss of life there is no one-size-fits-all approach. you have to go on intuition, experience, good hostage

negotiation which is an art and it sounds like and none of the children here were injured. we will have to see if there's anyone else in the house and whether he killed himself or if there is a shot fired. the fact he was still shooting at the swat team shows you it was not in t entire placid negotiation. the event you do talk about the art that is involved with negotiating within these cases just points out it's not like you could use drones or robots because again it requires rationality and reasoning. as just a sad situation here in the saturday afternoon. paul thank you very much for your expertise. thank you so much. >> thank you arthel. steve artman will police are searching for whoever killed two people their bodies found in a storm room at the university of colorado in colorado springs. it set to reopen for students and faculty are still shaken. worried about their safety and

what exactly happened in the storm. christina coleman has the very latest they are not saying if of the victims or students. >> that is right police are not saying much publicly about this case right now. as far as we still know that killer is on the loose. so far police have not announced any arrests colorado springs police tell me they're working around the clock on this case. they say officers found two people dead with at least one gunshot wound each around 6:00 a.m. on a storm room on campus after responding to reports of shots fired. there is a campuswide lockdown friday for about 90 minutes after the two victims were found dead. the double homicide shocked the community. >> a million text texan calls tm my friends and parents and then jump them just like i don't know what's happening i look at my window there's a ton of police cars all over the place. >> colorado springs police and the policeand believe this is ad incident they do not believe

there is an ongoing threat to the community. however some people are still on edge because an arrest is not been announced in this case yet. police are not saying much publicly about the details of their investigation right now they have not released details on a possible motive for the shooting a suspect description or the identities of the two victims. quickly recognize many members of our community are eager for immediate information. however it is our duty to provide the victims of families with support. we will share the details of what we have learned with them before we release them to the public records will have to be careful about what we share so that we can protect both the investigation and the subsequent prosecution. >> local authorities and school officials have made clear is that they are coming together to mourn the loss of the two people and heal from this violent incident. >> we are the mountain lion family. we are strong.

now is the time to lean on one another. to reach out to one another, to grieve and to borrow strength from each other. >> university officials also say a healing walk will take place on campus tomorrow afternoon to help the community cope with this tragedy. >> that it is christina thank you. arthel: eric and kristine that we are now in the final days of campaigning i had of the republican primary in south carolina foreign policy is a tough focus in the state which has a strong military presence from basis to the military college the citadel. trump holds a steady lead though it is haley's home state she is pressing him over his comments on an nato which are not sitting well with some military families. right now voters preparing to question haley in the town hall next hour here on fox news moderated by john roberts.

alexandria hoff his life in columbia, south carolina with the very latest. >> arthel the latest monmouth university pulpits former governor haley 26 percentage points behind former president donald trump. last night in michigan the dominating gop contender, spoke very little of south carolina and haley by name focusing a bulk of her remarks and ongoing legal battles including the three355 million-dollar judgment against him in a civil fraud trial. >> the case is a complete and total sham. it is a sham case. there were no victims, no default, no damages, no complaints, no nothing, there was no nothing. >> trump did say last night combating legal weaponization will be his top priority in the white house, haley feels there are more pressing issues for voters. she is crisscrossing her home state this week with the goal of at least coming out as competitive in saturday's open primary. in recent days haley has hit

trump on foreign policy calling him out for stating russia should quote do whatever they want to nato members who do not spend enough on defense. >> why is trump siding with putin? it is a problem. i'm bet for everybody in south carolina for military families what are you doing to encourage war? putin feels very emboldened when you say something like that. and our allies feel very weak and when you say something like that. trump owes us an answer. >> south carolina senator recent trump advocate tim scott offered a rebuttal today on "fox news sunday." >> here's what i can say about donald trump and foreign policy that any question the resources necessary to protect this world according to the nato alliance those resources what's up under donald trump because of his language. >> former president is set to arrive here in the state on tuesday. >> alright aall right alexandrif

thank you very much. eric: what would think nikki hahaley's neck said a republican primary in her home state in which she was a popular government would be easy pickings for women but as you work for president trump remains far ahead in the polls shall be laying out the rationale for candidacy less than an hour from now right fox news as we told you in the town hall hosted by john roberts. what can we expect? was indicated psalms fox news contributor both to join us now. welcome, david let me start with you. what does it governor haley need to accomplish in the town hall that we are going to see in about 45 minutes? >> republican primary bears are clear they want border security and they want economic security. nikki haley has to present ideas to them that say yes those ideas are better than the ones we know it donald trump pursued during his presidency and he continues to talk about which he has done

anin a number of town halls here on fox over this campaign cycle. now she is getting again her turn here on fox to make her case not only to south carolina voters but to voters in michigan and moving on to super tuesday states. support list, went to think she's got more traction until now? or three think we have seen is the polling which favors nikki haley in a direct match up with joe biden does not show up in terms of voters actually coming out to vote. she has a huge problem the huge problem is that she's actually going to become the candidate she needs or problems a fall in line behind her and so far they are overwhelmingly favorable toward donald trump. so she has a great tough path forward. and even in her hometown her home state she does not have the endorsements that you would expect from a local candidate. and in fact something like 75%

of the voters in south carolina have said they don't care she is from south carolina. they arthere still that of overd trump. she is pitching to independents and moderate democrats and frankly that's great i think she has standing with that group but it does not mean republicans are going to vote for her. >> why do you think she has not racked up the string of endorsements of republicans and people who have supported her in the past? what's my view is donald trump in this campaign is way more organized than he ever was before certainly versus 2016 and verses 2020. as we go into super tuesday for example he is 80 endorsements of local politicians in the states that are going to be voting on super tuesday that is amazing to me he really has got a ground organization in place he is making the personal phone calls he is very good at that. nikki haley is not as good at

that she has not reached out to people she used to work with we hear this from all kinds of people in the political apparatus. she has not kept up her relationships in south carolina and it shows up and who is coming out to support her. eric: certainly shoot onto the world stage being denied nations ambassador leaving south carolina. david, there's something else unique. a democrats can actually vote in the republican primary. they are not allowed to vote in the democratic primary if they do. liz just mentioned independent voters the former president trump has been making a lot about that. how you think that will impact? do you think democrats will be kicking off as republicans to vote for nikki haley? >> know we saw the same dynamics in new hampshire. what was supposed to beat nikki haley strongest states she still lost by double digits. she made it right now pull better than donald trump against job item but unless you get the nomination it doesn't matter.

fun two let's also keep in mind when it comes down to whether the election is the republican nominee, donald trump, or the democratic nominee joe biden nikki haley supporters and of vast numbers will ultimately vote for donald trump. this election comes onto the six or seven states where independent persuadable voters go that is who's going to decide this election. i will leave with one last thing you look at michigan just this week you have seen survey results of folks who voted for donald trump in 2016 then voted for joe biden 2020. now they say they're back to voting for donald trump in 2024. that's the direction of the trump campaign needs going into november f progress let's finish up at that point why do you think there's a change in michigan and do you expect to see it elsewhere? [laughter] i don't know if you saw the item

today joe biden is thinking about softening his ev mandates. this is a very big deal in michigan. anyone who pays any attention to what goes on the eb market knows the mandates and the rules that by the administration put in place is going to be a catastrophe for the auto industry. uaw won a round in recent negotiations. but a chinese company, be white the calmest document setting up shop in mexico at which would mean chinese imports of ev could swamp our country. this is something i would say what, people in michigan are paying close attention too. eric: the eb the electric vehicles for some disappointed we will see. just under 45 minutes, 42 minutes we are waiting and counting. good to see you both assuming for the town hall with john roberts sitting doubt the former governor. liz and david will be joining us again after the town hall for their analysis that is at

6:00 p.m. eastern fox reporter jon scott and of course you remr both the public and candidates are appearing on fox news for town halls. in about 45 minutes ms. haley will be here as we have said and the next tuesday night 7:00 p.m. eastern former president trump, his town hall with laura ingraham she will be the moderator. if i we have to check those out by the way the border crisis has new yorkers angry at the way the city has a prioritize of migrants of a residence the mayor is upset too he is joining a chor course of democrats criticizing the administration and washington former acting homeland security secretary chad wolf joins us next. complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. yay - woo hoo! ensure, with 27 vitamins and minerals, nutrients for immune health. and ensure complete with 30 grams of protein. (♪) why would i use kayak to compare hundreds of travel sites at once?

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eric: some new yorkers say they feel abandoned, fed up with the way the city is handling the migrant crisis. they say that migrants are benefiting from billions of dollars of their hard earned tax macy b cotton live in harlem with a resistance to the migrants there. excite eric right out neighbors and community members are meeting at this harlem church behind me too let new york city mayor eric adams know they want a say in the future of this a luxury vacant apartment building. things are getting pretty heated we just watch the mayor's security detail throw someone out of the meeting a contentious

argument is still going on at this time. this is a second meeting about this and less than a week. during the first one these neighbors made it pretty clear to mr. adams they do not want this building to become a migrant shelter. listen to this. >> what does this say? harlem homes for harlem residents asylum secrets are not harlem residents they are not citizens. that rant came after community members spotted in these bunkbeds outside the property. neighbors tell us the building was initially marketed for at luxury condos nearly a decade ago. but development for market rate condos installed event to the project from moving forward and leaving the building and definitely empty according to the city's department of social services. mayor eric adams showed up to a community meeting earlier this week heard from frustrated residents and then he said the city would reverse course. >> i told the team what's going

on here you are not moving folks into a brand-new building. not when you have a long terms in a community that's not going to happen. migrants and asylum-seekers more. >> that is where the video ends. we do not know what else mayor adams had to say. i came to the progress social service to the plan for that bacon they can building our dett to transitional housing for long to new york city families with children expensing homelessness. i can tell you the neighbors here tell me they are not satisfied with that plan either they want this building to become affordable housing for veterans, senior citizens and even young professionals were a lot more to watch out here. eric: really comment every time they open up a shelter area for migrants the local community, residents are against it will continue as long as they are contending to get to new york city. to be cotton in harlem, thank you.

arthel: eric and cbs and migranmigrantsoverwhelm what yon harlem and new york city and general and other cities across the country some of them and border funding is at a standstill in congress it is not just republicans who are concerned. pew research poll shows 73% of democrats think the federal government has done a bad job handling the border. former acting homeland security secretary janet wolf adjoins me now. so chad, co cooley president bin is in battle by the border crisis is that why former president trump is telling house republicans not to pass an immigration bill so trump can campaign on the border crisis? even if mr. trump can do a better job, can this crisis awaits 11 months for a fix? >> i don't think that is why the senate negotiated bill failed. the bill failed it was bad policy it would make the crisis worse and not better.

we got to remember and support for viewers to remember this not a resource problem or a money problem on the southern border of the moment. the department of homeland security has a very large budget the issue is with the policy and as long as you continue to process hundreds of thousands and millions of migrants over the border and into american communities like new york city and others you are going to continue to have this issue for this is why the administration continues to ask for more and more amount you need to stop doing that and change their policies to prevent the onslaught of individuals coming into these communities to begin with. >> isn't that what this a policy of the senate bill by all accounts is one of the most conservative and effective bills that have been passed through the senate in modern times that could really address the problems including what you are speaking of right now? so what is the holdup and why is the hold up really? >> i would disagree. the bill i believe you're

referring to is not conservative. it would not make the needed changes it would not close any of the loopholes as you dug down into that bill operationally it was not feasible it would make issues worse. if the biden administration wants to stop the crisis once the stem the flow they have all of the authorities that they need to do it. they are not utilizing a dozen or more authorities they could take tomorrow along the border to stem the flow went to a date much more effective than a senate bill or house bill could deliver to them. they refused to use it i cannot understand why. next congress is on a two week break should speaker johnson called the house back early and force a vote that is already passed? or write new legislation with new compromise we can keep talking that you and i but they keep going back and forth as a

political football and hot potato if you will but nothing is getting done. that is why americans, democrats, independents, republicans see what is happening in washington. not just in the administer congress as prop problematic. >> is important to member the house of representatives passed the bill over seven half months ago the senate and senator schumer have refused to bring that up and negotiate from that. we talk about congress hasn't done enough at least the house has passed a bill. the senate has not today too. that senate has passed no bill to date. the last bill had bipartisan opposition. currently republicans but democrats pickets chad, excuse me. we keep reporting on it uni people like you are an expert we talk about these bills it your eyes just glaze over because we don't know what we are talking about the end of the day all

people say we see that migrants surging in your i don't care who is a problem it is let's fix it. if you could give me 28 seconds if you could, how vulnerable are we to a foreign attack on our soil because of the porous border? >> we are very vulnerable you have to look at the numbers. you have to look at the known suspected terrorists that have been apprehended along that border there's a lot of there's a lot of chinese nationals coming across the border. at the end of the day with the americans went to fix this they have authority they can reimplement they could use authority there's a whole host of authorities they could use to solve this crisis they refused to use it. said they are looking for congress to solve the issue for them. they do not need that they have the authority they need to use it. they could bring this crisis to an end. arthel: and if you think if they do this whatever authority you are saying the president has executive or what have you you think congress would rubberstamp

it or sit by and complaint look what they did it's wrong and continue to question her. >> congress does not need to rubberstamp it. the administration doesn't have to go to congress for any of the authority they h need. >> i understand my question is you know how it goes administration makes a decision executive order or otherwise and in the opposition the opposers start opponents they just start yelling and screaming it is wrong, it is wrong. you see it my points. you are intelligent, you know what has happened on that we can keep talking about it that's the point people are exhausted of the talk and they talk back and they just want to get it taken care of it. but we are out of time i've run over so i have to go. thank you for your time today and hope we get this solved. we'll be right back after this a break, thank you. ♪ things are getting clearer...♪

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>> let's make russia's state-sponsored terrorism under u.s. law but let's make them pay a price for killing trent to allow the navalny family to go to u.s. court and sue putin's russia for killing of their loved one. state-sponsored terrorism designation is a game changer. it would allow more sanctions. it would open up the american courtroom. >> senator lindsey graham after opposition leader president biden also weighing in single putin is responsible but meanwhile and a call between a president biden and ukrainian president zelenskyy mr. biden said he is emphasizing the need for congress to approve more military aid in their fight against a putin's army let's go to lucas tomlinson now he is live in rehoboth beach, delaware with the very latest. >> arthel this comes as ukraine's suffered its worst

defeat on the battlefield in months as it was forced to retreat from a city in eastern ukraine that was once home to 30,000 people here is senator michael bennet earlier on "fox news sunday." >> they have just had their loss to first defeat the ukrainians since last may partly as a result of the fact they are outgunned at 10 -- one by the russians we can help solve that problem for them and we should. president biden blamed congress for not passing the foreign aid bill which comes after ukraine's counteroffensive failed. >> the idea that now they are running out of ammunition we walk away? i find that absurd i find that unethical. so i am going to fight to get them the ammunition they meet in the capacity they need. >> at that munich security

conference this weekend republican senator jd vance says american defense industry cannot keep up with the demand. >> can we send the level of the weaponry we sent for the last 18 months for the next 18 months? we simply cannot matter how many checks the u.s. congress writes rateswe are limited there. >> u.s. defense spending under biden is a near record low as a percentage of gdp the economy moving to another war in the modern day war off the coast of yemen u.s. central command said american forces destroyed an underwater drone for the first time since launching airstrikes into yemen early last month and despite nearly daily bombardment from u.s. forces into yemen over the past month i run back houthis rebels continue targeting commercial shipping in the red sea many critics say it's time for the u.s. military to turn up the volume. >> lucas tomlinson thank you lucas. >> highly offensive when they try to implicate you slept with some of the person you met with

them. it's contradictory it is contrary to democracy your honor. so let's be clear you have lied i'm going to tel tie which whenu lighted right here i think you light right here. no, no, no this is the truth the judge. it is a lie. it is a life or you think i am on trial these people are on trial for trying to steal an election in 2020. i am not on trout the matter how hard you try to put me on tropic scum heated testimony from fulton county d.a. fani willis that was thursday's evidentiary hearing on the misconduct allegations against her. willis relationship with the married prosecutor she put on the states election by meddling case against former president trump. it could potentially end up getting her disqualified from that case. she and that prosecutor, nathan wade deny any wrongdoing they call the allegations political what is going to happen? james freedman assistant editor of the wall street journal fox news contributor joins us now.

so jim, mr. willis received kudos and criticism for testimony on the sand it was pretty compelling do you think she helped or hurt her case? >> it was compelling i think a lot of people in the media talked about it was a fiery and forceful. it was not persuasive. she still has a big problem. the defendant who filed the effort to get the case dismissed against him because of this relationship was the person who brought this to the attention of the public she then avoided talking about it for weeks then said it's actually not a conflict. what he is saying is he's not getting a fair trial because she has an interest in this case the seemingly unqualified attorney she hired from outside her office to prosecute the case who has been paid at least six hundred $50000 by fulton county

after the filing. eric: that is wade. >> this is basically saying she has an interest in the outcome here and the fireworks this week did not change the problem for her. you have the testimony of her former friend and colleague sang yes they did have a relationship before he was hired to do this case but she claims no they did not have a relationship. you still have a question of whether she has an interest here. a lot of money going to the friend has taken her on trips and also this question of why was he hired? if you go outside of the office you would think you are getting an expert he seems to have very little if any experience of prosecuting this type of racketeering case. eric: that is one of the criticisms of mr. wade we just saw beginning his testimony there.

the huge rico case like this. she says and they both claim first so he was hired in november of 2021. they did not start until at least 11 months later in october of 202022 in ap april 23. and then the relationship basically ended in june of 2023. they would say there is no conflict of interest but as you just said others say just the appearance of impropriety could potentially be enough to cause her problems. do you concur with that? >> it is a conflict of interest. the question is how has it been manager probably also this time? you cannot have a lot of confidence about that given that she did not disclose it finally only in response to this affiant afiling for mr. roman's attorne. again there's also the question of why was he hired? and even if the relation has

ended now, obviously the former colleague had testified those two pictured there were not honest in saying when the relationship began. by the way we should point out she has also been disqualified by another judge from trying one of the other defendants because of another conflict of interest she hosted a fundraiser for the political opponent of one of the people she was attempting to prosecute. don't know how a judge could say this is not a problem. i think her role in this case probably ended this week. eric: ewart sense then do you think she will be disqualified and then what happens to the case? the case against a former president turks works i don't w you can't disqualify her based on what has been reported the testimony it was the facts of hr

relationship with the special counsel for the prosecutor she hired. if she is disqualified most likely hit her whole office is disqualified then it's a question of which public official in georgia might take up the case. think it probably dies at that point. and i am not sure it shouldn't. this whole case the problematic first amendment issues if you get into the substance of what she is trying to do and it really essentially prosecuting political speech. eric: others would say no he tried to steal an election that is the accusation. that is for another time let's see what happens with this first decision from the judge at. [laughter] james freedman of the wall street journal, jim thank you. >> thanks eric. arthel: think of the prime suspect in a high-profile case of eight missing british toddler is set to stand trial this week on unrelated charges but could it reveal key details about

madeline's disappearance? we will have that up next too. ♪ ♪ ♪

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if you recall that madeline was last seen in 2007 she when she went missing while she and her family were on vacation in portugal. stephanie bennett live in london with whether or not we will learn more about madeleine's fates, high stephanie progress hi it was christian bruckner's first public appearance in court since he was is named as a priy suspect in the missing madeleine mccann case he mentioned that four years ago. as you mentioned this weeks trial is unrelated to her disappearance the 47 real german first went to trial on friday at the state court in northern germany to face three counts of rape and two of sexual abuse for the allegations date back to between 2,002,017 in portugal were at the time he was living and working odd jobs the chargers are for five separate offenses including the rape of a woman in her 70s at her home the sexual abuse of a girl aged at least 14 the 2004 rape at knife point in her home of a young irish woman. an act he is accused of recording a video as well as a

couple other alleged sexual abuse acts on children. tparadethe trial was ultimately postponed by a week to rule by the judge should be removed over tweets in which she allegedly called for the killing of a former brazilian president in 2019 citing her work as a child psychologist as a potential source of bias in the case. >> keep the chamber it will now decide in the fences motion as to whether or not the judges should be dismissed due to concerns about bias and will then announce his decision at the next hearing. and then we will see what happens next. it is possible a substitute late judge may then be deployed. however they are already substitute lay judges who are involved in these proceedings. >> 's previous criminal history contains a slew of convictions including petty crime and also theft he is currently also jailed right now serving a seven year sentence for raping a 72-year-old american tourist and 2005 if he is found guilty could be facing anywhere between five and 15 years in prison.

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