>> emily: hello, this is "outnumbered," i'm emily compagno here with kayleigh mcenany and joining us today fox news contributor, lisa boothe, host of tomi lahren is fearless and fox knews contributor tomi lahren joe concha. backlash on the ruling against donald trump and his new york fraud case. the judge's unprecedented ruling will bloom to $468 million, making damages greater than the gross national product of some countries. critics note the massive sum is without a single lost dollar from a victim. tad excessive? jonathan turley thinks so, writing in laying foundation for his sweeping decision, the judge

observed this is not a mortal sin. at $355 million, one would think the judge had found trump to be the source of original sin and trump is on the same page. >> there were no victims, no defaults, no damages, no complaints, nothing. this is election interference by crazed lunatic attorney general. she is a lunatic working close we with a very bad judge. >> emily: tomi, what do you think of all that and what is going to happen with voters because of this? >> tomi: trump base will galvanize, his base gets stronger and more enthusiastic and passionate. i have long worried about independent voters, i worry some

will get fatigue of the circus and drama. as much as he wants to talk about it and has every right, the american people need to see how their lives are suffering and need someone to give solution to that. it is one thing to say we're screwed and another thing to say i'm screwed and that is what he's been saying. he has to touch on both, having to walk a fine line with that, i will also say that donald trump still out there with this campaigning and he's got more passion and thuz yachl, our current president takes a vacation every weekend, can mayorly muster strength to go to east palestine a year later. the former president went a year ago. what do voters want in november? >> emily: friday night i shared an elevator with a woman in new

york city and got a noteific protefst was coming around the corner. i said there was a -- levied against trump. she said that be a celebration. trump sources and other businesses sources say there will be chill factor on businesses headquartered here. kevin o'leary sounding the alarm. what is to celebrate about a judgement that has negative impact on the economy of the city and state? >> lisa: these people clearly hate trump more than they love america. by the time they get him, what will be left of the country? think of the damage threats of democracy people have done trying to get him? no one values an election.

there was covid with mail-in balloting, no one trusts the rule of law anymore, it doesn't exist. media debased itself lying about donald trump. people don't trust the system, they have broken it to try to get donald trump. new york will end up bankrupting itself trying to bankrupt trump. top 1% of taxpayers pay for 42% of tax receipts. they are losing millionaires. this will drive people away. who is crazy enough to do business in the state of new york and clearly governor hochul has concerns about that. she tried to dispel concerns saying this is specific to trump. people are smarter than that and it will drive billionaires and rich people away and decent americans away.

>> emily: "new york post" call it teric. it is not worth the victory. lisa says it will drive business,a way, no pun intended there are truckers for trump refusing to drive into the state. one of many truckers wrote, i believe in god and i stand with trump, trump stands for me. truckers for trump is real. he said as a commercial truck driver, i will no longer drive into this state while this is happening. the comments, thank you for being a trupatriot, we have to push back against the ones trying to destroy our country. i can't help but underline that is how everyone is perceiving this abomination of the crime that had no victim. >> joe: you brought up this could bankrupt the city.

the city has 4.3 billion budget shortfall and businesses pay high taxes, they are out of here. they are going to tennessee. they are going to florida and texas and going to not come back and you know what goes with them? tax revenue. this will bankrupt the state. you want to celebrate, you got donald trump, it is a short-term victory. this is weaponization of the justice system and could be the type of thing that destroys new york instead of saves it. >> emily: we keep saying unprecedented, walk us through how it is. >> kayleigh: yeah, leticia james and alvin bragg, do the facts match the law? as prosecutor you have

prosecutorial discretion. has a case like this been prosecuted before? make determination whether it is equitable and just. simple fraud case, our brain room looked and they found, i'm not fending example of arrest conviction for inflating value of real estate without a victim. associated press looked at 70 such cases and found penalty has been imposed dozen times. trump's case stands apart. there is not an obvious victim. civil fraud. move to alvin bragg, coming in march, the hush money case. "new york times," no friend of donald trump, "new york times" and new york state prosecutors have never before filed an

election law case, but you do with donald trump. with colorado, two such cases in history and they were confederates and that is before we get to maine. no wonder the american people look, different cases, different fact patterns, one commonality targeting one man. this is not how the justice system is supposed to work. >> emily: martha maccallum pointed out the contrast, in a civil ruling over fraud with no victims. she pointed out the o.j. simpson case, two lives were worth $30 million. east palestine, ohio, destroying a city and everything that comes with it, less than this? i think it is obvious. coming up, democratic anxiety running higher and higher over president biden's reelection bid. stay with us.

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a vocal critic of president biden's foreign policy as it wages war against hamas and member of the so-called squad. she made news when she told supporters in michigan, not to support the president in the presidential primary. we feel negligented and unseen by the government. if you want us to be louder, come vote uncommit said >> >> there are no major challengers to t. biden easily won the primary in south carolina earlier this month and tomorrow heads to california to raise money for his reelection bid. axios says there is a chance to overcome or neutralize concern about the president's age and democrats admit age will be an

issue after that. >> president biden will have to go out and litigate this election. his age will be an issue. he will be able to run on the domestic accomplishments he has had and economy getting better everyday. >> whether or not the american people will stand with the economic forecast is yet to be seen, unemployment is low, 3.7%, but inflation still out there and families are feeling that. >> kayleigh: no doubt. thank you. tomi, it strikes me that those around biden seem to know there is a problem, john fabro, an obama aide, he was out speculating if the party would be better. and discussion of his age

circulating. i bring that up because this is curious to me, politico playbook, everyone seems to be worried except the biden campaign. nearly any recommendation to change course is met with a pat on the head and thanks for the advice, kiddo. they have been doubted over and over again. that assessment is not shared across the broader democratic coalition. what is in the water? >> obviously, a lot of ego goes along with president joe biden and has been for quite sometime, not just special to joe. older people don't want to be told they cannot do the job anymore. you have to put the united states first. as far as people saying we have concerns about age, they have always been concerned, they were

concerned in 2020. now they do not have cover, what do they do? they are dropping bread crumbs, i don't think anybody, i am not convinced joe biden will be the nominee. they have to breadcrumb is per their actual plan and i don't think anybody believes that joe biden will be able to hold on if the forces that be tell him it is time to go. it is time to go. >> kayleigh: and pop culture forces, charlamagne the god had this to say about the president, he is not impressed. he should be the brains of the operation behind the scenes. he has no main character energy, none. i don't think it has to do with age, everything to do with him. donald trump is four years, three years younger than president biden, comes off a lot

more useful with a lot more energy. i say this about them, donald trump seems more sincere about his lies than joe biden does about his truth. >> kayleigh: pretty brutal, lisa. >> lisa: how could anybody be enthusiastic about joe biden when he can barely string messages together. joe biden won michigan by 154,000 in 2020 and michigan has the largest arab pop lagsz population. that matters in the state of michigan and she opposes him not over the age issue, but the issue with israel. this opposition from the arab

population, muslim population in the united states could sway elections. kayleigh, you have worked on campaigns, i have, campaigns are won on the margins and it will matter in michigan. >> kayleigh: if it becomes a progressive mutiny and it could. i want to juxtapose these two together. talk of kamala harris, trying to revolutionize who she is. i am interested in reinvention. alexei navalny dies and she speaks before joe biden speaks and this cnn piece that is out and no doubt planted by her team. inside kamala harris' quiet effort to breakthrough biden bu bubble, conversations with harris have been a surprising and welcome change after months

of feeling slofed off by the biden campaign. she met with six governors last week, this is reinvented kamala harris. >> joe: a re, re, re, re, re-invented kamala harris, 9.0 as far as the version, iphone 15 of politicians. you can't put toothpaste back in the tube. joe biden is too far long and kamala harris is not ready to take on the presidency right now. she has a record to run on, the guilty thingul caed the border. when she speaks there is an authenticity problem like with hillary clinton and mitt romney. they can plant stories, people have made up their mind about

her already and they do not like the prospect that she is the next president of the united states. >> kayleigh: you went where i hoped you would go. she has to shore up her image, if he falters, she is standing in the wings, and he continues to have moments like this. watch joe biden. >> president biden: the idea we'll walk away from ukraine, the idea we'll let nato split is totally against the interest of the united states of america and against our word we have given all the way back to eisenhower. about time we make sure congress come home and pass the legislation funding and nato. >> kayleigh: he meant to say nato, this is why kamala harris is at munich and meeting with king ubdullah.

>> emily: his word rings hollow considering we abandoned our -- in afghanistan. i want to make two points, though, about the democrats and republicans. number one is that to the democrats, it is about strategy and you mention former obama speech writer and he was quoting and said challenge we don't know, is it riskier to have someone less known come and take biden's place? contrast that, the largest percentage of people who voted for trump, they reported they voted for trump because he fights for people like me. there is commitment that trump supporters have to him and for democrats it is all about chess on a chess board as they play with people's lives.

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we don't know the number, the gotaways number is something you can't calculate, look at eight million coming into the country ille illegally since joe biden took office, more than the total population of 38 states. god forbid if there is a terror attack and they came through the u.s.-southern border, that is impeachable and removable offense for this president and administration. we hope it doesn't happen, remember before 9/11, if we had connected the dots and saw these people were coming in taking flight lessons. the dots are in bill melugin's report and the media doesn't give a damn. >> emily: tip of the sphere is fentanyl. we have reports from bill melugin in one smuggler's vehicle, 720,000 fentanyl pills

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in here, it's a lot. the president is not supposed to have this much power. the constitution granted limited authority. i hope we go back to a government where the president has less power and go back to time where the people hold the power and not the people in charge. we the people. >> kayleigh: i saw this disconnects, we had scholars from right and left and i was there in 2016 and 2015 and it was different from the feeling you got on the ground. talk reality and bring in gallup, joe concha. during president biden's third full year in office, january 2023 to january 19th, 38% of americans approved, only jimmy carter fared worse.

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>> emily: democrats seem desperate to make up lost ground with black voters. recent gallup poll finds the lead shrunk 20% over past three years. vice president kamala harris came up with one idea. >> what we have done to pardon tens of thousands of people for simple marijuana possession under federal law. frankly nobody should have to go to jail for smoking weed, right? these are things we have done that i think resonate with young people, with black voters, young black men. and there is more to do. >> emily: if that coming from the vice president did not sound insulting, new york congressman jamal bowman has a plan of his own, hip-hop power and justice

task force to the rescue. according to bowman, it is time for hip-hop to have a greater impact on policy. >> this is about addressing injustice in our society. it is time to organize formally and bring into the halls of congress the power and the transformative nature of hip-hop culture. make sure the hip-hop community has a seat at the table to work on federal policy. >> emily: i have no words, i know you do. >> lisa: it does matter when you see celebrity endorse people, whatever genre it is. it matters. you saw taylor swift got 35,000 people to register to vote, there is power in that.

donald trump said to black people what the hell do you have to lose? mpel found out a lot under joe biden. i hope donald trump can convince voters to turn to them, "u.s.a. today" poll had him souring on joe biden but not convinced, he needs to give them a reason to vote for him. >> emily: it is true and unrelated having celebrities and voices are surrogates, sure, what i find insulting is being shoved in a box and told this music must have effect on historic lows of black and hispanic voters and length this administration goes to curry them by ways that are deeply offensive. >> offensive and if we're looking to hip-hop music to be the remedy, not sure that is

place to start modern day hip hop. part of what jamal bowman was talking about was inequity from healthcare. i do listen to hip hop. the lyrics, i would say by large talk a lot about drugs and violence and sexualizing women, not sure that is place to go for inspiration. nice thought, maybe clean it up when it comes to lyrics or go back to more wholesome times. >> emily: if you want more voters to vote for you, change your policy, nothing to do with your message. if you want people to benefit from healthcare, change the policy and everything you are doing and then more voters will vote for you. don't assume black men will vote for you because you will stop prosecuting for marijuana

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his new line of $400 signature sneakers over the weekend, and they sold out almost immediately. here is what he had to say. >> you are all sneaker heads, you are sneaker heads, right? does everybody in the room consider themselves a sneaker head? i think so. they love it and they love what we have done. that's the real deal. that's the real deal. >> i love them, they are dope. >> very smart. the website says it's not political, nothing to do with a political campaign. that being said, what a contrast, trump is out there being creative and nimble, and biden is in the lawn chair, what a contrast. >> he could have some orthopedic sneakers any day now, but nobody prdzs like donald trump does. there is nobody who can move merch like donald trump. i've never seen joe biden

merchandise, nikki haley has tried and failed. >> you see joe biden dark biden, yeah, whatever it is, and does not sell, it's lame. right? i think these are cool, i like the american flag, i feel they might be a little hard to walk in but i don't know if you walk in these kinds of shoes, they are probably more just to have as like a keepsake thing. although 399 is kind of pricey. >> i love they look back to the future, the high top pumps. >> another 1980s reference, good job. i didn't know there was a sneaker-con, all i know is trump went into philadelphia and got cheers, it's a blue blue blue blue city. >> you know i love everything with gold. thanks to everyone, you are gold to us. don't forget to dvr when you can't watch and here is "america reports". >> he was targeted. when letitia james and alvin