should be led. to counter and defend and deter vladimir putin's kgb russia. >> neil: but again, if that message is not coming from the guy who could be the next president, does that worry you? i'm just curious, from your vantage point, does it worry you? >> it concerns me. i would love to ask him why because it does not make a whole lot of sense to me. maybe you think i'm biased. i spent many days in russia. it did not take long to remove whatever scales from my eyes about what makes vladimir putin tick. i think president trump should be held accountable for those words. >> neil: all right. dan, and moscow. that will do it for now. ♪ ♪ >> jeanine: hello, everyone.

i am judge it jeanine pirro along with jessica, dana, jesse, and greg gutfeld. it is 5:00 in new york city, and this is "the five." democrat anxiety over the 2024 election is reaching a boiling point. some top democrats fear by the end campaign might be stumbling past the point of no return. vice president kamala harris reportedly telling them that she is not worried about losing to donald trump, but rather losing to the couch, which refers to voters who might stay home on election day, and operation "dumb joke" is growing louder. a "new york times" columnist is cooking up a brand-new way into bating him to step aside. tell him he could be a hero. >> i think joe biden, as painful as this is, should find his way

to stepping down as a hero, that the party should help him. to be the thing that he said he would be, the bridge to the next generation of democrats. and in august at the convention, do what political parties have done so many times before. organize victory. >> jeanine: about the big guy shows no signs of going away, and popular radio host charlamagne tha god is adding more fuel to the fire. he's calling out joe biden special ability to be mediocre. >> of the aspiring candidate. nothing about joe biden that makes you want to listen to him. he has no main character energy at all. i don't think it's anything to do with age. i think it has everything to do with him. donald trump, three or four years younger, but he just comes up a lot more useful. he comes off like he has a lot more energy. >> jeanine: what a bunch of

historical malarkey. the group of self-proclaimed experts on the presidency just ranked joe biden as the 14th the best president in history, while giving trump last place. jesse, i want to go to you first. "no main character energy." "nothing makes you want to listen to him." "uninspiring." charlamagne tha god. if a guy like him would vote for him, what's going on here? >> jesse: i think charlemagne is wider than greg at this point. the main character energy is when the border is invaded, when vladimir putin goes into ukraine, when the life here gets more expensive. u.s. joe biden anything about this, and he's like i'm not allowed to talk to you. i will get in trouble. that is not main character energy. it is when you go to a sneaker con and people started chanting

"let's go brandon." talk to people. act like you're on top of things. joe biden is not on top of anything. maybe on top of the couch. i'm not going to make that joke. but it is clear that joe biden is the kind of guy that things happen to you. he does not make things happen. and you are going to have to convince them to not run for reelection. walk into any 80-year-old man's house and try to adjust the thermostat. try to convince your grandfather that he should drive somewhere the day before thanksgiving. go to someone's house at that age and tell them that bill russell is not as good as michael jordan. they are set in their ways. he proposed to jill five times, janine. that's about as stubborn a man as you can possibly get. you're not going to convince joe biden of anything. you might be able to trick him

into believing he is running for reelection when he is not really running, but a lot of people like this, if you are a democrat, you've only known two democrat president, really. bill clinton, barack obama. the first and second black president. those two are incredibly charismatic. joe biden cannot do that. joe biden does not understand what makes a heartbeat. he is a political relic. artifact from a bygone era, and people now realize that, and they would rather have a guy that shows a little muscle then someone who has none. >> jeanine: jessica, it seems like every week something comes out. "new york times" editorial. charlamagne tha god. jon favreau. don't vote for the guy pure young environmentalists don't want to vote for him. and i spoke to a doctor.

he said lots of times people are suffering from various cognitive issues. they don't know that they have those cognitive issues, so they become even more stuck in their ways. >> jessica: we are all not doctors, so definitely not diagnosing. oh, i'm sorry, greg. joe biden regularly does see a team of doctors, and i think someone would have informed him if there was something really wrong with him. there has definitely been a perceptible shift. david axelrod is part of the obama orbit, which has been very active criticizing him. charlamagne tha god was not enthusiastic about biden going back to 2020. this is consistent. but the report seems to have really struck a nerve with people. not that they necessarily are saying i am not going to go out and vote for him, but this is a problem that we cannot ignore anymore. and i listened door i read most of ezra klein's audio essay, and

i think he makes a lot of really good points, but what jon favreau has said is actually not that he thinks that joe biden is too old to do this but that you cannot ignore the veracity of these concerns here you cannot tell voters you are silly is wondering if he is too old. what happens if he doesn't? the kamala harris question, but the point he brings up that i think is so crucial is that if we "organize victory at the convention and give it to someone else, is that actually a less risky proposition in terms of winning? we have the stars. gretchen whitmer. gavin newsom who we talk about all the time from california. all very bold and exciting, doing things, the right age, et cetera. they are not proven quantity is. they have not beaten donald trump before. main character energy, yes, it is a great saying.

but "main character energy," it is being able to deliver 81 million votes in 2020 or to get this legislation passed or to oversee the most successful midterms for a party not in power in the house. that is main character energy. we want to win more than anything else. because he is the guy on the other side of it, so that's what i think people are paying attention to. >> jeanine: you know, dana, when you talk about main character energy, i don't think anyone would deny that donald trump has not, but when you talk about joe biden 2024, it's not the joe biden of 2020. we have seen a cognitive decline. it is not age. it is cognition. >> dana: a video from 2020 biden and 2024, and you watch both, okay, there is an obvious difference.

a couple of things. the report, to me, basically gave the coverage, what everyone was whispering about. that is not that you have all these people on the right wing, go there, talk about his problems, the other one that we have not mentioned, nate silver. analyst. biden needs to show he can handle easy, basic media or step aside. what happened last week? he gave the press conference. said that was not a good idea. a statement in which he previous by saying i'm not going to take questions today, but i will take them tomorrow. he did not take them the next day or on thursday. then he went to east palestine on friday. did not have a big press conference there, so the biden campaign and supporters have been whistling past the graveyard as i try to tell you he's not too old. he run circles around us. the border is closed, no problem

there. not only are they trying to convince 86% of americans, but trying to do all these other things. they made a big mistake. this morning it's reported that his team believes that the marcn address is his chance to reset the narrative, and do you think raising expectations on that prime time speech is a good idea right now? but they have already done it. >> jeanine: insane. greg, i was checking you out in the green room. i was. here's the issue. i was looking for those gold sneakers on your feet. you don't have them, do you? >> greg: not yet. they sold out. that just shows you that you can galvanize people, the more you persecute them. you know what joe reminds me of? when you're at a hotel bar with your friends, and there's a guy at the bar that kind of won't leave you alone and that is just overly friendly and has no clue

that he is annoying you, and then he follows you out. you have to kind of tell him hey, we are going to dinner. nice meeting you, whatever, but then he follows you, and you have to make a plan. let's pretend we're all going to bed, but then we will meet at the rooftop bar, and that's how you ditch him, so they have to ditch joe. it is not even that hard. he's already kind of confused. just tell him the convention is the next day. say that it is early in the morning. oh, they have a mock one. he will not know the difference. but i do not buy the concern over his health at all. the anxiety from the democrats. because it's not about him being incapacitated. it's that he's going to lose. if you remember, incapacitation did not matter when he showed up to the debate because he was

ahead. they did not care that it was really a sad sight to behold. lucky for everyone, he recovered, but no concern about the possibility that he wouldn't recover, right? they worried about it later. that, to me, is the big picture. not who is president, but who wins, because when you think about it, the joe biden we knew and tolerated is not the joe biden that runs the country. this congenial moderate back slapper turned out to be the most consequential progressive and recent history, and he denied rfk jr. secret service protection after claiming that he was close friends with the kennedy family. this is not somebody in charge. somebody else is in charge, so it's almost as if whether it's, down the kamala harris, joe, gavin, they're all irrelevant. ending into the white house first, then whoever is in

control will take care of the rest, right? if joe was up in the polls, they don't care -- they prop them up, but it's the numbers that are scaring them. not his health. they don't care about that. they care that they will be out of power. >> jeanine: should jill be concerned about his health? >> greg: she should, but i have not talked to her in days. i am an actual neurosurgeon. did you know that? >> jeanine: pro-trump truckers want to hit liberal new york right where it hurts. over is the obscene verdict. ♪ ♪ wait... where's the dish? there ain't one. you're tellin' me you can get directv — the good stuff — and you don't need a satellite dish? oh, i used to love doin' my business on those things! you're one sick pigeon.

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♪ ♪ >> these repulsive abuses of power are not just an attack on me. really they are an attack on you. no one is going back to new york city. a lot of businesses. it is a sham case. no complaints, no nothing. there was nothing. >> dana: sounding the alarm to other businesses after a judge delivered what could be a whopping $355 million penalty and banning trump from running any business in new york for the next three years. experts like kevin o'leary warned that his punishment would cause an exodus to other states. >> what does this say to everybody that wants to do work in new york, wants to risk capital? it's a huge mistake, and the

stretch arbitrarily deciding that this is the right amount. i don't understand that. it is an atrocity, and embarrassment, but an assault on real estate. >> dana: assuring business owners that they have nothing to worry about, as long as your last name is not trump. >> law-abiding, rule following new yorkers have nothing to worry about because they are very different than donald trump and his behavior. >> dana: a group of trump supporting truckers might be hitting new yorkers right where it hurts and be refusing to drive deliveries, and that would of course drive up prices and more chaos that we don't necessarily need. kevin o'leary calls it "an atrocity." what do you call it? >> greg: if you cannot identify the victim, the crime was reverse engineered. if a crime is organic, the victim will begin the process, but the process was, find me the

man, and then we will find the crime. $335 million is a bit excessive for the amount owed to the banks is none. in the end, they agreed to the loans. if he probably wanted another, i'm sure he's going to get it because he pays his lungs back. so if there is no victim, it was reverse engineered. as long as you are politically in-line and you don't upset us, you won't have a problem. i'm beginning to learn this is happening in a lot of places. i was on the wrong side on surveillance. and then there is livelihood. with surveillance, they said there's nothing to worry about if you're not doing anything wrong, so you won't mind if we spy. until they spied on americans. then it was freedom of speech. you have nothing to worry about. i just hate speech. that disinformation, misinformation, stuff they did

not like. now your ability to make a living. you don't have to worry. unless you are not a democrat, and you call out all the mistakes that democrats may, and you are a threat to our power, that's different. the messages we are going to leave you alone, but only if you do what we say. i'm serious. i'm thinking okay, i am not a democrat. i constantly rail on their policies. i am on a show that gets a lot of reach. how soon before they come after us? it's not that hard to find a judge to arbitrarily decide you broke the law and then give the judgment like days before the show trial starts. they can do it to anybody. except you, jessica. >> jessica: i will bail you all out. i just want you to know you guys are all going to be fine. >> dana: there was a judge but no jury. if the judge was just going to do this anyway, why did they

make president trump come up to sit in a courtroom for days to basically get what was going to happen anyway? >> jeanine: you're right. it was just a question of how much the damages would be, except there are no damages, because they paid every loan on time. they paid some of them in advance. they never breached a covenant. and extra collateral to a lot of the assets, so that they were considered top-tier platinum borrowers who would get money today. and when kathy hochul comes out and says don't worry, she should have said don't worry, if you are not trump, he'll be okay. the amazing part of this, i just want to be a lawyer for a second. the consumer fraud statute is upon which they base this case, but in order for there to be fraud, there has to be misrepresentation, but there has

to be detrimental reliance, but in addition to the representation made by the trump organization, they had a legal disclaimer saying don't even look at our numbers. do your own analysis, real estate evaluation. bring in your accounts, real estate advisors, and even if the was a bad representation by trump, it has to be to their detriment. who lost? no one. what new york is saying now is not only are we not going to keep you safe from the super gangs, ms-13 and whatever else they are called, two blocks away, which is why i will not even walk outside anymore. what they are saying, with amazon and aoc, we do not want business in new york. $1.5 million tax break. and aoc went ballistic. billions of dollars in wages, 25,000 jobs, and $12.1 billion

in benefits that would have been to new york businesses and to new yorkers. letitia james is out of control. she is unethical. she is an app. you do not pick a person and say i will find a crime. i don't like you. we've got all this crime going on. and they go after donald trump. shame on her and all of them. >> dana: i do think the business community is looking at it. she says it's no big deal, but kevin o'leary says it is an atrocity. >> jessica: plays out in the appeals court, and the state will have to prove exactly who was the victim and all of this, and i assume they thought of this and have a good answer for that. but basically everyone who is defending donald trump in this from kevin o'leary to some folks here, saying it is okay to falsify your business records, to issue false financial

statements, to commit conspiracy for insurance fraud. when he goes out there -- >> jeanine: where's the fraud? >> jessica: he says you cannot have three sets of books. books for the bankers, then you have your irs books. and then you have a set of books with the real numbers, i guess. >> jeanine: three sets of books. where do you get that from? where do you get that from? >> jessica: that is part of what -- had said that -- oh, because he's a lunatic, it means -- >> jeanine: based on emotion. >> jessica: i think emotion is hot at the table, and it is not emanating from me. since donald trump ran the first time, he has been making this argument, if they can do it to me, they can do it to you. the average person is not inflating their wealth by that

much, they are not sexually assaulting women, storing classified documents. they are not fermenting and insurrection , >> jesse: let's focus on this case. >> jessica: you know what? let's do that. really? so emotional. >> greg: focused on one topic, and yes, it does matter. >> jessica: falsifying your business records, do you do t that? >> greg: let's say your contract is up, and your company says we want to renew your contract, and they don't give you a bump in the race, that's the beginning. you come back, i'm going to ask for the freaking moon, which i always do. i know i'm not going to get it, but at the end of the day, they are going to see everything. i can say i want $100 million over the next six months. they will laugh, but that does not mean i broke the law. that's what you put down in a

negotiation. it's all transparent. there is no fraud here, which is why that other stuff -- >> jessica: no, it's not. i started with that -- >> dana: i've got to get jesse in. let's give you the final word. >> jesse: you, with respect, no nothing about real estate. real estate development. or the irs. or getting loans from banks to develop skylines in new york city. donald trump did more for new york city than 1,000 letitia james ofs have done. she has gone after now the nra, the nypd, and she has done nothing on street crime, nothing on a real white-collar, and then if you just try to defend yourself, working in a bodega or on the subway, he goes after you. that's why 160 businesses have left new york. that's why they have left.

this is an unsafe climate. if you have a certain political opinion. that's why companies don't do business in russia, pakistan, because it's corrupt. if you are on the other side of the political people, they will target your business. i like the fact that you said you are not supposed to mess with your books or you are supposed to tell the truth to -- because that is not what the biden family business has done. we are just saying we want fair treatment. you are looking at a mountain of evidence where the guy does not even have a business card. there is diamonds missing. tax fraud. sitting down with russian billionaires, leading them off the sand. donald trump, you can see what he does. no one is complaining about this. the bidens are ripping people off, then -- >> jessica: can we talk about the fbi informant that was --

they just came out with it. >> jesse: the guy that blew the whistle on them. how come they don't -- >> jessica: i would argue -- >> jesse: how come they did not arrest the fbi informant with the russian collusion? we are just going to just arrest fbi informants? >> dana: and we are also going to t's. the crazy scam story involving -- guys -- 50,000 bucks in a shoe box. "new york times" financial columnist who totally fell for it. we will be right back. ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ >> jessica: "new york times" finance columnist is going viral after rating and incredibly

detailed article on how she became the victim of an elaborate scam. "the day i put $50,000 in a shoe box and handed it to a stranger. reporting fraudulent activity on her account, connected her to an investigator then to a fake undercover cia agent, able to convince her to hand $50,000 in a shoe box who pulled up her who home in a white suv. she is explaining herself this morning. greg: anywhere where your radar went off? this does not feel right? >> the whole time, but the tiny chance that what they were saying was actually true was terrifying enough that i was willing to cooperate. >> they make it sound like you are under surveillance, being watched, your computer has been hacked. they really make it seem like you have nowhere to turn.

>> jessica: it is a totally insane story. if you do have that many red flags going off, how do you carry through with this to that level? >> jeanine: i am not going to criticize her, okay, so a lot of people get scammed. i see it every day, and the amazing thing is i do something like 34% more young people get scammed than older people. young people fall for this. she is a financial advice columnist, but that does not mean she cannot take in the fear of all of these things that they are saying may not be happening. first of all, it is an amazon employee who calls. why would they? then they hook you up to -- what do they have to do with the ftc? then they connect you to the cia. that is where i dropped out.

the cia is an international organization. they can care less about amazon. but they told her she's got nine cards signed to her along with 22 bank accots, and now she's worried. the saying, they said don't tell your husband. don't tell a lawyer. that's when you've got to say to yourself i should be able to talk to someone about this. they say that the con artist have her under surveillance. they were the con artist. she takes $50,000 out, so this was not a split-second thing. she goes to the bank, takes $50,000 out, gives it to these people from the government. i don't know anyone who shows up in a white mercedes. the shoe box to me, they are just joking about her. i understand the panic and the fear. i really do. but i'm really wondering about all of this, and for me, i was told that the bank was calling

me -- i would say no, i have to call the bank back. then they answer the phone as the bank. if you want to know what it is, email me, and i will let you know. >> dana: i think this sounds like a very elaborate scam that somebody made up, and i don't know who made it up. maybe the scammers, but i don't think this passes the smell test. we have been emailing each other. what in the world is going on? regardless, she has no street smarts. you have to have some sort of instincts. this is an educated woman who rents financial columns, puts this out there. i don't know what's going on, but i do know scams are a huge problem. so trust your gut. if something sounds weird, it probably is. then hang up and call somebody that you trust. call the judge. that's who i call. judge, does this sound crazy?

>> jessica: can people call you for advice on things like this? >> jesse: my friends would never fall for anything like this. these media people who fall for all these hoaxes, jessica, she's saying i am well educated. that's exactly why the cia loves to feed hoaxes to "the new york times" because they just run with the stuff. oh, really? trump is in bed with the russians? i've got to write this down. would never rest of the fbi informant. that would be against the law. are you kidding me, jessica? well educated, rational journalist have fallen for every single one, while the rest of the country is like are you kidding me? he went out for a subway sandwich at 1:00 in the morning?

>> jessica: you are telling me i am not getting that, and that's disappointing. you were an editor for about 15 years. where is there any editors -- >> greg: the red flags for me are not in the story she tells. it's in the piece. there is a lot of holes in this story. why would a bank hand over 50 grand? that's got to be explained. where was the documentation for the stuff? her editors would have been smart to offer backup in this period may be a picture the check. you know, it felt, also, literary. like the crisp halloween night air, leaves swirling about. her little boy getting dressed for halloween. it's on halloween. there were more red flags then a chinese parade appeared what's more likely? a sophisticated group of

scammers focus all their time and effort on a mark who is also a finance advice columnist, the least likely person you would focus on, even though you went through her instagram account. or is it a financial advice columnist who decided to write about a sophisticated group of scammers? and i don't know why she would do it. there are reasons to fake stuff. you don't pay taxes on stolen money. you elicit sympathy. a lot of people with mental illness will do that. it might cover up a questionable debt. we are either -- this is proof that we have played down the gullibility of so-called experts in the media, or playing down the dishonesty of so-called experts in the media. you may have to worry more about journalists them online scanners.

i think the writer is in a terrible spot. she should never be allowed to write another financial advice fees. i really don't know which one is which. but i always go for the obvious, and the obvious tells me there is more to this story that we are going to hear about. >> jeanine: yeah. plus $50,000. i thought the same thing. covering up something. what's going on? >> jesse: she came up with that number, that sounds good. why wouldn't you ask for $200,000? and the cia gets a call? >> jeanine: how much money does she need to survive for thing here? 50? i think it is troubling. >> jessica: coming up, charles barkley dunking on san francisco. ♪ ♪

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♪ ♪ >> jesse: san francisco has spent millions on goofy ad campaigns, trying to convince people that their state is not on the decline. charles barkley just completely dumped on the notion that san francisco is going clean, and it only took four words. >> being around a bunch of homeless crooks in san fr san francisco. >> oh, no. we love san francisco. >> no, we don't. you can't even walk around. yeah, with a bulletproof vest. >> jesse: they are pretending they love it. why is it like you can't say that? why? whose feelings are you hurting?

are you worried that the homeless are watching the telecast? but because we'd talked about this in the beginning, i got duped, and i got duped by prison reform. all about, in a way, i fell for backward science, all these repeat offenders coming from the prison system, therefore it's the prison system calling this one in fact if they commit crimes in prison, so that allowed this whole thing to come out on the guys that the prison was somehow worse than if we just let crooks out. >> jesse: charles barkley, we love him, dana. >> dana: he has no talking points. it's impossible for him to be a talking point guy. he tells it like it is. there were some big players they were trying to get to go to san francisco, and those guys were like no thanks. i will take less money because their families don't want to live there. they don't want to make their families live there.

and you expect that the very least a clean city. good schools. and instead what they get is that goes to drug addicts, illegal immigrants, and homeless. >> jessica: i love him. i enjoyed all of all-star weekend. and his commentary. i would say what's so great about charles barkley, you know it's not rehearsed. you know it's genuine. you know it is heartfelt. he goes out, every once in a while, gets involved in politics. it is just who he is. and i think that's how normal people talk. they don't want to have to walk over poop all the time. >> jeanine: i think someone like charles barkley, not only does he tell it straight, but believe someone like charles barkley because he goes all over the country. he is been going all over the country for all the games that he does. he was in philly, san francisco,

indianapolis. he is seen at all. and he is a professional athlete. so you know it -- >> jesse: i love when professional athletes have political opinions. >> jeanine: he knows the streets. it's going to be a nightmare next year if you hold the all-star game in san francisco. they are going to wear their $300,000 watches, and someone is going to have it. they will probably clean up the state like they did for china or part of it. this is because of no bail. it was a democrat instituted an agenda, and the nation is paying for it. that's all i have to say, jessica. >> jesse: yeah, jessica. and must be hard to do your job. [laughs] a team ahead, a car wash turns the tables on a rude customer. i br♪ ♪ -ugh. -here, i'll take that. woo hoo! ensure max protein,

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laugh, spraying the driver with her power hose. how stupid is this driver? she threw a cup of lemonade at someone who has a spray washer. >> jesse: they were armed. i am a big believer in using water as a weapon. i always thought for the homeless situation, why don't you just get hoses and spray them? sprint says or a cup of water, just to whet them. don't blow them off the streets like they used to do. just make them a little damp. >> greg: don't you want to know the backstory? why did she throw the cup of lemonade? >> jeanine: she had to know that the girl was standing there with the power hose. she deserved that. the hole inside of her car was wet. >> greg: you know, jessica, i don't have a question. i've run out of steam. >> jessica: i was thinking about how much fun it used to be

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hey. you seein' this? wait... where's the dish? there ain't one. you're tellin' me you can get directv — the good stuff — and you don't need a satellite dish? oh, i used to love doin' my business on those things!

you're one sick pigeon. them dishes kept the rain off our beaks! we just have different priorities is all. satellite-free directv... never thought i'd see the day. well, our lifespans are quite short... stream directv without a satellite dish. i'm going to do this thing with my neck, just for a bit. >> judge jeanine: time now for"" greg? >> greg: charlie hurt, kat timpf and jimmy failla. tonight at 10:00 p.m. that's it. >> jesse: johnny went skiing and asked people about presidents on presidents' day. here's the clip.

>> who was the president in the 1980s? >> franklin piers? >> ron? >> swanson. >> jesse: president swanson one of the greatest. >> dana: in that list of popular presidents. latest perino on politics podcast taped today with noah roth. good one, fun one, quick one. check it out. >> judge jeanine: teddy doing a sprite dance. those of you wondering this is me in the office sipping dr. pepper going on air. that's not me. what are you oi-why are they telling me -- this is purr us. have a great night. sorry about that, jessica. okay. bye. >> trace: good evening and welcome to los angeles. i'm trace gallagher in for bret baier. president biden is facin