♪ >> trace: finally tonight, today's throwback. [explosion] >> the naval bombardment prepares for landing. >> trace: on this day 79 years ago during world war ii the u.s. marine corps launched invasion of iwo jima a critical island tokyo. the battle cost the lives of over 6,000 u.s. service members. after the invasion the island served as emergency landing site for b 2 # bombers saving the lives of 24,000 americans. tomorrow on "special report," we hear from south carolina voters ahead of this weekend's primary. thanks for watching. i'm trace gallagher. i will see you back here on fox news at night. ♪ ♪ >> laura: good evening, everyone. i'm laura ingraham. this is the incorporation gram

angle. thank you as always for joining us. tyrants in training. that's the focus of tonight's angle. ♪ >> laura: is donald trump at risk of being america's first real political prisoner? i thought a lot about this over the weekend. now, with the unconscionable financial judgment in that new york civil fraud case, the fani willis debacle in georgia. the efforts to knock trump off state ballots and, of course, let's not forget jack smith january 6th criminal prosecution, what else are trump supporters supposed to think? now, there are various ways that despots cling to power. political opposition is eliminated through censorship of opposing views. intimidation of free thinkers through harassment. and also show trials, of course and imprisonment of the opposition. that's all part of it. and then there is always the threats to family members and financial ruin. well, donald trump is facing all

of that. now, how do we know this is all political? well, aside from new york's totally novel application of fraud statutes or fulton county purrous claims that trump is running some kind of ricco enterprise, there is this obvious point. had trump just quietly retired from politics, none of us would have heard about latisha on or about fani or jack. russia and its biden era ally china, well they are pros, aren't they, at destroying dissent before it gets too powerful. they are brutally vicious and efficient. china subject gates and tortures uyghur muslims. russia crushes the pro-freedom protesters, imprisons navalny and then announces his sudden death. now anyone who challenges the ruling authority now knows the same fate can happen to them. by the same token, loyalists who prove themselves, you know, to be, you know, real followers of the movement, they get special privileges and accolades. and that's exactly what the

leaders of the get trump crew are hoping. >> watching this, you could see, you know, fani willis was standing on business with a witness. also saw today with the clinic in black woman hood. >> is he a fraudulent businessman and eventually those house of cards found down. tish james was really smart. >> there were many winners today when the court of appeals opinion was issued. special prosecutor jack mitt and his brilliant legal team. >> laura: communist dictators now we know what we're getting, right? we are getting tyranny. dissent is not tolerated, period. , all supposedly to protect the tranquility and security of the mother land, bull. in north korea, russia, china, the rule of law is perverted and it's weaponized against inconvenient forces. everyone knows the game. security forces, government lawyers, judges, they are not independent. they are all political hatchet men for the communist party.

and since 2015, when trump announced his run for the presidency, official forces in washington have been unleashed on him from the deep state to the russia hoax, to the low life d.a. in manhattan. >> they call him pro-putin as they scramble to put him in jail, bankrupt him, and even come after his family. and, by the way, they brag about it. >> i look forward to going into the of office of attorney generl every day suing him, defending your rights, and then going home. >> we will rise up together and we will resist this president! then ultimately we will bring him down! [chanting hey hey, ho ho, donald trump has got to go." >> laura: friday she bragged about getting her political scalp claiming it was going to help the little guy. >> today, the court, once again, ruled in our favor and in favor of every hard-working american

who plays by the rules. donald trump and the other defendants were ordered to pay $463.9 million. >> laura: this is not what america is supposed to be. this is soviet style political persecution. trump's original appeal came from his message that the american system run by and for the globalists had become rigged against our middle class. that's why he got so much publicity. that's why people flock to him in 2015 and 2016. he focused on our trade policy. sending millions of jobs overseas. we engaged in too many endless, pointless costly wars. we had an out-of-control, unaccountable permanent bureaucracy and, of course, millions of illegals were crossing the border. and america hating radicals taking over the schools. of course on all of that he was right. but, in their quest to not merely drive him from politics, but to destroy him personally,

they've damaged every institution that used to have prestige and respect. now, new york had the crown as the financial capital of the world. today what entrepreneur would take the risk in new york now? you get sideways with latisha or someone like her, and you could lose everything for no wrongdoing by the way. jonathan turley put it well saying the impact on new york business is likely to be dire. new york is already viewed as a hostile business environment with the top end of its tax base literally heading south as taxes and crime rises. this draconian award is only going to deepen concerns over the arbitrary application of the law. now, governor hochul, she knows this is going to backfire. but, of course, that's the price she's willing to pay. her political machine has told her to destroy trump, and she's going along with the plan. >> i think that this is really an extraordinarily unusual circumstance that the law abiding and rule-following new

yorkers who are business people have nothing to worry about because they're very different than donald trump and his behavior. >> laura: wait, wait, wait. trump literally defrauded no one. and, look, since covid, many wealthy new yorkers they have left, right? left new york, taken their business with them. this is just another reason for all of them to bolt, and they will. now, governor hochul has proven that if you offend try to ruin you. >> laura: it's not just the corruption in the court system, the fbi, the c.i. a, the doj, the fec, the corporate press, even the military, all these institutions are supposed to exist for all of our benefits. regardless of politics. politics should never come into play. but, about half of the voting public now believes that those institutions, for the most part, are just tools of the dnc. you don't play ball or you are a

disrupter think, you know, elon musk or trump, and they will eventually make you pay big time. now, let's be clear. trump got 47 million votes in the last election. and those people contribute trillions every year to our g.d.p. so are they all russian sympathizers. are they all potential directionists. mega maga monster class? of course not. these are decent patriots who simply want the government to work for the american people. there are none so blind than those who refuse to see. and in their rabid zeal to stop trump, the establishment has not only sacrificed their reputation but the credibility of key american institution. at this point, every country in the world understands that the fbi and the cia are nothing more than branches of biden's re-election campaign. that's a terrible message to send to the world. by laying waste to their own institutions the establishment is setting itself up for a major loss. even if they finish off trump

legally, politically, financially, they are going to be shocked to discover that for many, many years to come, their position will be significantly weaker because some voters and some leaders in other foreign countries will know beyond any doubt that u.s. institutions have been weaponized for short-term political gain. so people like biden, blinken they can huff and puff about putin. to the rest of the world they will look like hypocrites to do whatever it takes to destroy their own political opponents. look, if they have their way, trump would rot in jail for the rest of his life. we all know that so when biden talks about democracy or freedom or following the constitution. that is just empty rhetoric. no more meaningful than the phrases we hear from dictators all over the world. we can only hope that the voters correct this situation and give us a government that truly respects the will of the people; otherwise, this notion that america stands for freedom and liberty will become harder and

harder to take seriously. and that's the angle. joining us wisenberg, former deputy independent counsel and fox news contributor. sol, fani willis spoke at a church over the weekend and said the scripture people keep sending me is no weapon formed against you shall prosper but just because they don't prosper it doesn't mean they won't form. even if you feel like everything you're doing in your life is the right thing. so, fan fani is the victim it looks like here sol wisenberg. >> this is very serious. >> this is the second time she has made extra judicial statements that are likely to affect the outcome of the case. it's totally unethical. it's a valid ground, i think, to have her taken off the case and to have the case dismissed now. much worse thing she did was several weeks ago when she appeared at the oldest african-american church in atlanta and said that her --

that the defense attorneys opposing her were racist. that is unquestionably unethical. it's tainting a jury pool that overwhelmingly elected her. and why aren't more people talking about this? why aren't -- i'm only aware of one person in the mainstream media has commented upon this and condemned it. so, it's very disturbing. >> laura: sol, on this new york letitia james case and the judge arthur engoron judgment, i mean, it took my breath away when i first saw it on friday. this is an effort to drive him not only out of new york but out of business. and that message to other entrepreneurs or business people in new york is? >> don't screw with the uniparty. and it's not just political candidates. they are the most in danger. any really truly radically conservative candidate is in great danger by this kind of

activity. all you need is a by i can't say result oriented judge and a d.a. who actually runs on indicting you. but, really, anybody is at risk, any business that runs afoul of the progressive orthodoxy, it can be on any of the hot button social issues. so i think it's going to have a real effect. it should be very embarrassing to the state of new york and, again, i can't emphasize it enough. she ran on a platform of getting trump and then oversaw the case. totally improper in my view. >> laura: all right. former prosecutor andrew weissman, along with other far left prosecutors, are out circling the wagons for judge engoron. watch. >> this is really a decision that will cause a lot of pain, not just because of the number but because of the way in which the company is restricted going forward. so, a very, very severe

decision. >> laura: sol, they want trump to not be able to move freely, even in his own companies. they have a minder in his company, barred him from having anything to do with it for three years. his sons are obviously severely restricted as well. i have never in my life witnessed anything like this when there is actually no victim and when the banks, as a good friend of mine mentioned to me over the weekend, did their own due diligence on these loans. >> there's no loss. the judge crows about that in the opinion. he says really you don't need it under this statute. and what he is doing is he is disgorging ill gotten gains by trump, allegedly ill gotten gains. but if there is no financial loss by anybody, if people like deutsch bank testified we wanted to do business with him, we did our own due diligence, how can

there be improper gain to be disgorged. and as for mr. wiseman, he is an expert on prosecutorial overreach. as you nosy, it's almost unheard of. you really have to be pathetic to have a judge mention your brady violation in an opinion. and that is what happened with him several years ago when he was the prosecutor. >> laura: sol, yeah, any chance we get to bring that up is a good night for me. sol, thanks so much. all right, we are just days away from trump taking on haley on her home turf. >> the latest on the state of the race is next. plus, a behind the scenes look at our trump town hall in greenville, south carolina tomorrow night. so you don't want to miss it. stay there. ♪

>> laura: just days away from the south carolina primary where nikki haley is down 31 points in her home state. according to the rcp average. but haley thinks the nomination is hers to lose. >> i'm not stopping. i'm not going anywhere. we're going to do this for the long hall and we're going to finish it. >> does that mean you will not support him if he is the republican nominee. >> that means i'm going to run and i'm going to win. y'all can talk about support later. right now you can ask him if is he going to support me when i'm

the nominee. >> laura: joining me now victor davis hanson senior fellow hoover institution and ben domenech fox news contributor; victor, i know politicians always do this until the last minute when they do drop out. this is kind of what happened to jeb bush in florida all those years ago in 2016, so, is she essentially, what, working for biden at this point? that's what the conspiracy theorists think. >> yeah, she is getting close to that point. there is a lot of strategies. george bush, you remember, 180 kept at it. even though he didn't have a chance to win. and maybe reagan in 76 -- he lost the first seven. but he was polling ahead in all of the subsequent primaries and he won his home state by 65 points. so i don't see any of those scenarios for her. i guess maybe she thinks donald trump might have legal problems and be inert and then she would

step in and the only other alternative she is going to go the full liz cheney, laura and just become a never trumper. i don't know what the full strategy. she is hurting her chances for 2028. >> laura: ben, she obviously has an enormous amount of money that the plutocrats have poured into her covers. but, if she's to have a political future at all, i mean, i said this after iowa. if she wants to have a political future, drop out after iowa. she obviously didn't and keeps it going. keeps it going. at this point, what is the point? other than to help biden? >> well, i'm going to disagree slightly and it's always a bad idea to disagree with victor davis hanson. but, i will disagree slightly only in the sense that i don't think she has any shot in 2028. so i don't think this is actually going to hurt her chances to stick around because they were so low anyway. look, nikki haley represents the past. she is a call back to before

time long ago, you know, really in a way i think that, you know, what she represents is sort of the last ditch act of the republican party that wants to be more corporatist, less populist and less in touch with its own voters. and i think that's unfortunately the person that you ended up with as the last fallback in case of donald trump having the kind of legal problems that you referenced. it's something though that i think is increasingly unlikely. that's why you see the desperation of the joe biden white house. because they thought they had all these outs. they thought they had all these opportunities to undo donald trump's success this year through legal means and, yet, what we see after the any willis situation and everything you said in your opening monologue, those chances are going away very rapidly. american people are seeing through them which means you are going to have to beat donald trump on your own terms, something that looks

increasingly unlikely for joe biden to be able to do. >> laura: i want to get back to the destruction of these time honored institutions in a moment that the democrats are willing to just sacrifice in their mania about trump. but, the plush everywhere of the "new york times" over the weekend said that biden is an historically unpopular incumbent and the oldest man to ever hold this office. we reported on both of those realities extensively and the white house has been extremely upset about it. victor, the word came out over the weekend that the white house is furious that the press is finally picking up on the fact that biden is deteriorating and has been for quite some time before our eyes. they are mad about it. >> yeah. i think it just feeds into this scenario that you have a cognitively challenged president and unprecedented fashion. he is unpopular, every one of his issues is unpopular. they are headed for defeat, they think, not anybody else, they

think and so then that puts the onus on fani willis, alvin bragg, jack smith, e. jean carroll. you name it. alvin bragg. and what they're trying to do is to achieve something that they either can't do at the ballot box or they have no popularity. they have no agenda. and so -- and i think nikki haley doesn't understand that she is getting to a situation by this sharp upping the criticism of trump, people view her as on that side, laura, on the lawfare side of a system that is doing everything it can to destroy donald trump. because they have no other option because they are not on the right side of history on the issues. and, as i said earlier and everybody agrees that he is inert. and the question isn't whether he will make it the next four years. the real question is is he going to make it in the next nine

months? >> laura: victor and ben, thank you. great see it both of you. let's go live to greenville, south carolina where the team is still working hard behind the scenes to get everything set up for tomorrow's hour-long town hall with former president trump. i will be there in a few hours. see it for myself. but joining me now is fox news contributor raymond arroyo. all right, ray. you get to see it before i do. how is it looking out there? >> laura, it's incredible. i mean, it's really like a prize fight ring behind me. i'm going to be in your corner. i will be your cut man. it's going to be incredible. hundreds of people will be standing and sitting behind us tomorrow. this is, of course, the scene. for tomorrow night's trump town hall. ingraham, trump, together for the hour. laura, in a little bit i'm going to be joined by a group of undecided voters. i have been talking to them all afternoon. the things they have told me, it's curious what the big issues are this year for them. what is holding back their vote. and we're going to share all of that before the show is over.

>> laura: do we have any chop ski or anything we are going to hand out or like regular candy? >> raymond: i will bring some mardi gras food. i will see what's in my bag. do some at the end. >> laura: all right. raymond. i will see you later in the show with our undecided voter panel. next, the real reason that europe needs us to pay for nato. tulsi gabbard is here to respond, next. ♪

>> so damaging when trump said he would choose putin and encourage putin to invade nato allies. >> why is donald trump so elm am in moored of putin? part of it he is a wannabe dictator. he even said the other day let's, basically, get out of nato and encourage putin to do what he wants.

>> he said if an ally did not pay their dues, he would encourage russia to quote do whatever the hell they want. >> laura: reality check, europe has been free riding on the american taxpayer and the american military. for now close to, what, 8 decades and even though all combined still has the g.d.p. pretty much matching ours, it is incapable of defending itself. the "new york times" is even reporting that the munich security conference scuttlebutt that the most striking thing in the conversations about russia was a widespread acknowledgment that europe's military modernization plans first announced nearly two decades ago were moving far too slowly to match the threat that russia now poses. joining me now tulsi gabbard, former hawaii congresswoman fox news contributor, tulsi, donald trump said you have to pay your own way. that your obligation, 2.5% of your g.d.p., to your military, most nations still haven't

gotten up to that level. but trump's the pro-putin sympathizer just for saying that? >> yeah, laura. you have seen this tactic before when the biden administration and hillary clinton and all these warmongers start fear-mongering. it's because they are trying to distract the american people away from what is actually happening. and when you look at what trump is doing, is he talking about very real issues that the american people care about. he is talking about how our open borders, biden's open borders are destroying our country. is he talking about the rising inflation. is he talking about rampant crime in our streets. and now, with nato, he is forcing the american people and nato members to be confronted with some very serious and important questions. for us, what is the role of nato? does our membership serve nato in national security interest. if it does, then how much are we, the american people, willing to put on the line in our taxpayer dollars and in american

lives. and how much are these nato members willing to put on the line in their money and the lives of their citizens? we cannot allow ourselves, the united states of america, and the american people to continue to be in this position where these nato members expect us to put up our money. they expect us to put up the lives of my brothers and sisters in uniform to protect them when they are not even willing to do that for themselves. >> laura: i want to remind everyone what donald trump said about nato which caused such a huge controversy back in 2017. they never forgot. this watch. >> nato members must finally contribute their fair share and meet their financial obligations. 23 of the 28 member nations are still not paying what they should be paying. this is not fair to the people and taxpayers of the united states. over the last eight years, the united states spent more on

defense than all other nato countries combined. >> laura: he uttered that which you are never supposed to utter that everyone is supposed to pay their fair share. now, there has been some improvement, tulsi on this but clearly europe still, even the "new york times" had to concede and quoting those officials in munich, that they are still not anywhere near where they have to be if they think lithuania, astonia, latvia and ukraine are going to be invaded by vladimir putin tomorrow. >> that's right. you know, it's interesting that biden and hillary clinton and these warmongers don't want this conversation to happen and they don't want can this very simple question to be asked is why does it take donald trump to try to pressure these countries into paying the bare minimum to maintain their membership in nato? if they were really that concerned about russia invading their countries and the safety,

security, and well-being of their citizens, don't you think they would be lining up and making these investments in their own security, putting themselves on the line to defend themselves? this is a harsh reality that we need to be confronted with here in our own country and these nato members need to be confronted with as well. >> laura: what do you think the reaction would be, tulsi, if biden and kamala harris and blinken they went around the college campuses and they basically made the pitch for the u.s. to go to war for these, you know, former eastern european countries? and, i mean, do they think that was -- do they think that's going to work politically for them that there is a groundswell of a desire for us to go really all in? >> and this is -- this is really the sad and sickening truth is that people like blinken and hillary clinton and others who are so willing to go and wage these wars in other countries,

they are willing to sacrifice other people's lives, evan to ukraine a few times. i went there actually during my rnr -- during my deployment to iraq in 2005. i made some great friends there in ukraine, who are terrified now that their husbands are going to be forcibly drafted to go and fight in this war. they're angered that the united states has stood in the way of attempts to bring about a peaceful resolution to this war. and, once again, who is behind this? and who is profiting from it? ukrainian lives are being sacrificed almost 500,000 and you have these people who are fueling the military industrial complex saying no. keep fights this war. because they are not willing to put themselves or their children on the line. >> laura: tulsi, great to see you, as always. thank you. all right. as texas locks down its border, chinese nationals are bum rushing california's. a disturbing new report from the ground is next. stay there. ♪

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♪ >> laura: four men are accused of robbing and strangling a 49-year-old man over the weekend in chicago. new reporting suggests they may be here illegally. joining us now with all the

details is correspondent dan springer. what can you tell us? >> yeah, laura. this happened saturday afternoon. by all accounts a violent crime on a chicago transit authority train in downtown chicago at the time. police say a 49-year-old man was beaten, choked and robbed while riding that train. there was a quick response and police arrested four suspects within 45 minutes they range in age from 18 to 22. all are facing serious felony charges of robbery and aggravated battery, strangle. they all gave the 300 block of south plymouth court as their address. and we know that there is a large city run migrant shelter in what was a long-standing private club in that block. it opened last maid 700 migrants and could go up to 1200. chicago police would only say that, quote: our office cannot confirm an individual's legal status or exact address of residence. since august of 2022, chicago has received over 35,000 migrants bused or flown up from

the southern border. 13,000 of them have been moved to shelters and it's costing the city a fortune. the governor and the cook county board president have just asked the state legislature for another $250 million to deal with the crisis. the city has already spent nearly double that already. there is growing tension in the city over what to do and how much this should cost. the four men accused of this crime are currently being held and are expected to be in court tomorrow. laura? >> laura: dan, thank you. now to ha couple ba, california where illegals are pouring in from around the globe. fox news national correspondent who has been all over, this bill melugin, has all the details. bill? >> bill: laura, good evening to you. over my shoulder you can see a camp full of illegal immigrants from all around the world including china and the middle east as this area, about an hour east of san diego is a new cartel smuggling hot spot. take a look at this video we shot earlier this afternoon in jacumba.

remarkable images showing a huge long line of migrants scaling a massive, steep, rocky mountain in an effort to get into jacumba here. they climbed over the mexican side and walked down this mountain, incredibly dangerous. eventually all of them made it down to the bottom. i talked to some of them. they came in from all over the place. take a listen. >> where are you guys from. >> colombia. >> column yanchts where are you from. >> colombia. >> i'm from brazil. >> brazil. >> kazakhstan. >> kazakhstan. where are you guys from. >> kazakhstan. >> kazakhstan? >> yeah, yeah. >> kazakhstan where are you from. >> brazil. >> in the meantime over the weekend fox news cameras witnessed hundreds of chinese nationals crossing illegally into this san diego sector including jacumba the numbers of chinese are exploding and this is not normal. and just to put it in perspective for you, take a look at this graphic cbp sources telling fox news in the last four and a half months since october 1st, there have been more than 20,000 chinese nationals encountered at our

southern border. that is up more than 4,000 percent over all of fiscal year 2021. 450 migrants encountered. laura, the politics of the california border obviously very different than texas. out here, there's no razor wish. there's no shipping containers. there is no state troopers. there is no national guard. california is a sanctuary state. and they are not trying to stop any of this. send it back to you. untrump face tomorrow in our town hall to win their votes. stay there. when barbara switched to turbotax...

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>> the problem is, this is someone we're talking about could win the republican nomination. and he is going to be in court march and april, may and june. he, by his own words, said he is

going to be spending more time in court than he is on the campaign trail. that's a problem. republicans will not win it donald trump is the nominee. >> laura: now, she is trailing in the polls by double digits, but did yesterday's fox town hall with nikki haley move the needle ahead of saturday's primary. what do voters need to hear from her or from trump to make their decision. we decided to ask them. raymond is back and he is joined in greenville, south carolina by a panel of undecided voters, jason, tracy, eric, dakota and matt. all right, ray, it's grade great to see the panel there what is everybody saying? >> raymond: well, i asked everybody, laura before we started what was the number one issue as they go to the polls and what was it? immigration. the border and immigration. why? jason, you are a pastor why are you concerned about this issue. >> just the drugs and fentanyl. i have been to way too many

funerals of people overdosed on fentanyl and resources being used to house migrants could be used to help the homeless here. >> raymond: tracy, you, also, very concerned about the border and what to do about the 10 million people who have come into the country under biden. >> that's what i'm worried about, the logistics of finding these people and sending them back home. now, nikki haley said everify is what she would use. and that's great. but, criminals aren't looking for jobs. everify won't effect them. i would like to know how we can get them before they commit a crime. >> raymond: dakota is a student here in south carolina. you're concerned about the border, why? you would be think students wouldn't be considered about this. >> i'm honestly really concerned because at school i studied criminology and my friends are talking about it all the time the fentanyl epidemic coming from the border and how it's ravaging even our campus. >> raymond: matt, your big concern? >> well, the wall has not been completed. we have got to get that done.

i have never met an american open the door and let someone come in their house if you don't know who is on the front doorstep. >> raymond: very impassioned about tellerrier. >> human trafficking for me. the part of that destroying our america as far as the thought of children being molested just sickens me. lamed. >> raymond: yeah, me too. laura, i know you have a question for the panel. >> laura: i would like to know what everyone thinks about the additional request for $60 billion more for ukraine, trump tried to get 5 billion for a wall and that was summarily rejected during his time in office. put us up to 160 billion for ukraine and they are now, obviously, at a stalemate there. >> raymond: yeah. okay. who supports more funding for ukraine? oh.i got one in the back. why? >> i'm all about defending ukraine from russia but i would at least like to know where the money is going to. there has not to be some sense of accountability and we continue to send so much money

but when is another country going to pay their way. >> raymond: go ahead, tracy. >> i would like to see us squeeze russia financially so they are not able to continue the war more than just throwing money at zelenskyy and not knowing where it's going. >> the accountability. where's the money going. who is getting it? are they, you know, ukraine just lost a city. and they said they had no weapon. where is the money for that? >> raymond: i know some of you were also very concerned about inflation and what's doing. that was kind of the second tier issue. why is that so important? how are you feeling it in this community, eric? >> going to the grocery store. you can't even buy a hamburger to make hamburger helper nowadays it's so expensive. for the average family they can't afford. what are they going to do? they can't afford it. >> raymond: other issue you heard haley raise a little bit of it. she has made the age of donald trump and joe biden central to her campaign. does donald trump's age concern

y'all? >> no. >> not me. >> i would say in general we should try to go more towards younger people running for office. >> raymond: um-huh. okay. laura, you had another question? >> laura: well, i think the bottom line is what do you think our role should be in the world when we're $37 trillion in debt and we can't defend our own border? i mean, people are being called pro-putin sympathizers if they don't think we're spreading ourselves too thin. do you think the pro-putin sympathizer line by haley and others, is that fair or accurate given what so many voters and, obviously, trump believes here? >> raymond: go ahead, jason. i see you nodded. >> yeah. no. like i said, we are spending way too much money. no american veteran should be homeless. >> i agree with that. >> in this country. >> raymond: matt, you wanted to add something? >> i would agree with whether a he said.

it's not that we are not are sty putin. we want to know where the money is going. why won't other countries who want to win this war why haven't they paid their fair share. >> raymond: they have tried to pitch this though if you don't support sending more money to zelenskyy and ukraine you are a putin sympathizer? >> how about becoming energy independent and squeezing russia out of all of the oil he is selling to europe and china and whatnot and then he won't be able to fund a war. >> raymond: dakota, do you have any concern about. this yes, i definitely think energy independence is important. we built two big docks in germany to make them energy independent and now under the biden administration is he cut it down. >> keystone pipeline. >> raymond: and what do you make of nikki haley's contention there that donald trump is going to spend the rest of the campaign in a trial, in a courthouse? does that concern you? >> you have to look at just the

charges in general and you can actually see you have to look at the charges in general and see how bogus they are. >> i do think they are focused. it might be concerning. >> so far, all of these cases have helped trump in the polls. >> doesn't seem to be hurting him. >> go ahead, you wanted to add something. >> dakota, the issue of gun control they like to call gun safety, it is something the left thinks will really get suburban women out there, and other young people that they are concerned about that. do you think that will be an effective push for the democrats? >> i do. i think the democrats are going to play their games like they usually do, but at the end of the day, this is a constitutional issue. can the constitution, it plainly states what we have, the second amendment, the right to bear arms. i think we need to not be

looking at taking that away. that is going to be very important. all my members -- i know that my members in the college republican -- >> you voted for trump last time, but not this time. >> i would say i'm not. i wouldn't classify it as that. what i want to hear about donald trump -- for quite some time, we have heard the vendetta. i want to hear his plan to move the country forward. let's put the past behind and move the country forward. let's not worry about who we have to pay back. let's worry about how we can move this country forward. >> laura, i will let you close this out with the panel. >> what do you need to hear from former president from tomorrow to make your decision on whom you are going to vote for? >> for me, how he's going to win back. we have lost two national elections back-to-back. it's time to win. he said it's about the winning. >> what you want to hear from him? >> i would like for him to stop calling people names, and he's gotten really great policies.

let's hear about the policies and move on. >> i want to see how he's going to bring inflation down. the work i do is affected, because i can't feed as many people as i normally would. >> we are out of time. laura, see you tomorrow. we will bring the panel back to let you know how things shook out, their reaction to donald trump in the big town hall. >> can't wait, raymond. that's it for us tonight. tune in tomorrow, and if you have questions you want me to task donald trump, you can tweet me or x me, whatever we are calling it now, and i will consider asking those. we will be in greenville, south carolina. very excited. this is going to be foreign policy, domestic policy, legal policy, weaponization of government, the border, all the issues we care about. jesse is next. >> jesse: welcome to "jesse watters primetime." tonight -- >> he wants to be