88% of students still graduated. statewide proficiency scores improved slightly last year. the number of schools where no schools tested proficient went out 67 schools for math. 32 for english. >> sandra: wow, garrett tenney live in chicago. >> bill: before we go just want to -- we did this yesterday and want to do it today. coming up on the moment where we'll say whoa, that was action right there. >> sandra: that's beautiful. >> live camera big bear valley, california. with us for the last two hours we've been rocking and rolling on the stories, we check our computer to watch the live camera of shadow. >> sandra: hemmer turns his computer so i can catch a glimpse. >> bill: tomorrow might be the day. leap day. appreciate you coming here today. we'll see you later at 1:00 with john. harris takes over right now. >> harris: news at this hour.

president biden is at walter reed medical center for the physical. the visit was unannounced. the white house press secretary said last week he was due for a physical. not exactly the same thing as putting it on the schedule. just out of the blue having the marine one helicopter land on the lawn if front of all the reporters while he takes off. the white house says it will release a summary of the results of the president's medical examination later today. that information will likely be closely scrutinized. the president at 81, oldest commander-in-chief in u.s. history. americans taking part in polling across the country show a majority of voters think he is not fit to be president for another four years. those same concerns were amplified earlier this month in special counsel robert hur's report on the president's handling of classified material. that report described him as sympathetic well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory.

it sounds benign but has really done damage for him. we'll update with new information on medical results as we get them. this fox news alert. his son, hunter biden, is behind closed doors with lawmakers on capitol hill. the interview he and his attorney have tried to keep from happening. they tried everything including publicity stunts on the hill even under a threat of criminal contempt if they didn't show up. house republicans' biggest interview yet in their push to prove president and the biden brand were directly involved in when hunter's cash machine where vice president under obama at the time. here is what we know about the interview underway right now. not a lot but some detail. there is no determined length of time but we could probably expect it to last for hours to cover all the things they are

expected to cover. hunter biden is under oath. his team has asked for a transcript to be released quickly, which lawmakers agreed to. and his team made a deal with the oversight chairman, james comer, today's closed door testimony in exchange for a public one in the future. top committee members set the stage this morning. >> there is a pattern with the biden family, hunter biden goes out and tries to get business but the agreements and deals never get done until joe biden shows up either on a phone call. stopping by a lunch or dinner is when the things happen. >> at the the end of the day with every interview we have learned new information and the basis of what we learned is that the bidens didn't have a legitimate business. their business was selling access to joe biden, the brand. >> harris: fox news contributor miranda devine here is what she does not expect. >> i'm sure he will turn it into an episode of hunter goes to

washington reality show. i am not expecting much more than a really self-serving heart string tugging opening statement. i don't think he will answer any questions about the millions of dollars that he and his uncle got from china and russia and kazakhstan, romania, and ukraine. >> harris: a long list of countries. maybe we should scroll that. this isn't the first time we've seen hunter biden on the grounds of capitol hill. remember the stunty stunt? last month he crashed his own contempt of congress hearing making quite the -- he gave a news conference outside the building. legal panel standing by. fox news legal editor, fox news contributor andy mccarthy.

first to david spunt inside the building where it is all going on. >> hunter biden has been on capitol hill his third time in just a few months. really a couple of months. hunter biden rushed past cameras as he got out of his s.u.v. today to walk into this building. we know the deposition began at 10:00. it will be a very long day. not only for hunter biden and his attorneys but also lawmakers. chairman james comer plans to stay in all day. hunter biden walked past the media at a fast clip. we obtained his opening statement that he read in the room and he told the committee in part quote for more than a year your committees have hunted me and your partisan political pursuit of my dad. you have trafficked in innuendo, distortion and sensationalism. all the while ignoring the clear and convincing evidence staring you in the face. you do not have evidence to support the baseless and maga motivated conspiracies about my

father because there isn't any. house republicans want to ask hunter about his business deals to see if and how they directly relate to his dad. after all, today's impeachment inquiry is not about hunter biden but his dad, joe biden the president. >> i'm ready to try to begin to close this investigation. this has been a very difficult investigation. this administration has been very obstructive. >> hunter's team is hoping the recent arrest of alexander smirnov will help his case. the former f.b.i. informant is behind bars in los angeles this morning after a judge determined earlier this week he is a flight risk. he was charged with lying to the f.b.i. when he said both joe biden and hunter biden received $5 million each in bribes from ukrainians. republicans used it as a talking point for months. democrats say it should end the investigation. >> i think this investigation is over at this point. there is really nothing left to

pursue. >> this is behind closed doors today. we expect a transcript to come out in a few months. i asked chairman comer if he left if he still wants to do any sort of public hearing that hunter biden offered to do. comer said it would be possible just a couple months ago but wanted to have this closed door hearing first. he didn't answer and walked away. >> harris: i don't know that there would be much appetite for that for lawmakers anyway. they've already said they want to do something public. isn't he shooting a documentary or something? >> apparently there is a documentary going on. >> harris: they were following him the day of the stunty stunt. always excellent reporting. the "new york post" editorial board says the biden family defenders are shameless and desperate arguing the facts are established in the public record. legal panel now in "focus", fox news legal editor and former counselor to attorney general bill barr on set with me today.

we welcome andy mccarthy fox news contributor and former assistant u.s. attorney. andy, i will start with you. there is so much that we probably won't get. you heard miranda devine talking about that today. how valuable is this interview? >> much more valuable than one of these public hearings because the witness really is not going to be in control of what he can answer. in these proceedings behind closed doors, unlike the public hearings, it is not like these crazy five-minute rounds where if the witness even tries to answer the question the member of congress reclaims his time and doesn't let him talk. in these proceedings, you actually have one-hour rounds of questions and any kind of financial investigation is built on documents. so what they are going to do is show him documents and walk him through them and make him explain them. he won't be able to say whatever he wants to say. i think he actually is the gift

that keeps on giving for these guys because he apparently said in his opening statement today that the one incontestable fact he never involved his father in his business. i assume they will read for him the whatsapp message that he famously sent in 2017 where he extorted his chinese business partner by saying i'm sitting here with my father and we basically want to know why you guys haven't come through yet. they had three or four different things like that. probably more than that to throw at him and are you sure your father wasn't involved in this, right? so you could have some fun with him, i think. >> harris: only it seems like fun for attorneys. you guys enjoy that sort of thing. the rest of america are watching the tax dollars burn away on the fact our national security could be at stake here if any of those business dealings yielded with the long list of foreign governments and ones we aren't so friendly with if they wanted

to put pressure on this president for anything they were anticipating getting in return for doing business. so what if he develops his dad's poor memory for the day? what could really go down in there where hunter biden doesn't say anything? >> he can invoke the fifth amendment. you can't be forced to incriminate yourself but it is a high-stakes legally for him. it is a crime to lie to congress and if he were to lie and d.o.j. would be in a position of deciding whether to prosecute their boss's son. a position doj never wants to be in. high stakes for him because of the other cases that are ongoing with the gun possession case, the tax case. if he says something here that could impact those cases. politically, of course, with respect to his father. he says something that is problematic for what his dad has said that can impact the 2024

election. hunter biden is walking a tight rope here. >> harris: i wasn't just being flippant. you can say i don't remember. we saw that in another case yesterday. over and over and over. so the two paramours, one outside his marriage heading up the election interference case against donald trump in georgia, the special prosecutor nathan wade's former business partner and divorce attorney was on the stand again yesterday. and he couldn't claim that he had privileged client/attorney waiving of anything they would want to ask him. he had to answer questions so they thought. round two on questions between willis and wade. his first testimony was filled with assertions of attorney/client privilege. the presiding judge mcphee said bradley could not make that claim. back on the stand he was and the

timelines and details got muddy. >> i see the message there but i don't recall. i do see that message. i do not recall. >> you don't recall testing this. >> i don't recall any specific dates. i do not recall how it came up. i can't recall what the conversation was. i don't recall that. at this time i don't recall -- i don't recall. >> harris: as i was watching the this yesterday i wondered how many of his clients were calling up and saying we can't recall whether or not we want to hire you. he has to remember stuff in cases. >> anyone watching that yesterday was thinking what is going on with this guy? my favorite part of the exchanges was when they asked him do you normally lie to your friends and he said i don't know. did you lie to the attorney? i don't know. you don't know if you regularly lie to your friends? that's a problem. not only as a lawyer, but a

friend. >> harris: sometimes people don't have any of them that aren't on facebook. those aren't friends, those are likes. andy mccarthy, what was the part that -- it gets a little confusing because the prosecution is actually his defense, nathan wade. a bunch of his co-workers are trying to keep him and fani willis on the trump case. what did you see was most important for trump's attorney and for the woman who is representing one of the co-defendants? >> well, their performance on the atlanta -- fulton county prosecutor's side is so appalling and the way they presented themselves and their testimony in this proceeding. what i've always maintained, harris, the problem with the fulton county case is the fulton county case, not just the prosecutors. it is a terrible case.

and rico is about the most complex criminal statute that prosecutors have to deal with. i did a lot of rico cases in new york more years ago. the thought -- it has always seemed apparent that they've screwed up the way they charged this indictment because they don't have a conspiracy crime that they can charge. these 19 people that have never done anything together except get indicted and tried to do a rico. it is impossible to think of these guys doing a rico case confidently. >> harris: i've heard you say before 19 co-defendants. you try to catch them whether or not they would have been working together had any connection. the only people working people that had connection romantically outside the office, again we don't know, are the lead prosecutor and the d.a. it's pretty unbelievable. andy and carrie, thank you for starting off the hour.

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>> harris: former president donald trump picked up another primary win last night in michigan. he beat the only remaining republican candidate to challenge him at this point,

nikki haley, by a lot. you see that on the screen. on the democratic side biden also secured a victory. but his biggest challenger had a very good showing. look at that number on the right, 13.3. who does that represent? well, they are voters who are part of a movement to vote uncommitted in protest of biden's failures, in particular the failure to call for a cease-fire in the israel/hamas war. that effort got more than 100,000 votes. multiple headlines stressing the concerns over this for president biden and the democratic party. supporters of the uncommitted campaign speaking out. >> send a message to joe biden the thaw palestinian life is valuable and we demand a permanent cease-fire. this is a warning sign. >> this is just the beginning. this is a victory of american democracy tonight.

this is a victory. 174 days from now we'll be at the democratic national convention growing this anti-war movement. >> harris: grady trimble is in dear born, michigan. >> here in the city of dearborn more than 50% of democratic primary voters selected uncommitted on their ballots yesterday. there were a lot of protest votes in the two big college towns in michigan, east lansing and ann arbor. those 100,000 uncommitted votes, or more than 100,000 taking away as much as 13% of the total from president joe biden. many of those people who voted uncommitted are upset with president biden's stance on israel's war in gaza. the biden campaign is trying to do outreach to win back the arab american community who helped him win the state by more than 150,000 votes in the 2020 presidential election.

these results last night show so far the outreach hasn't been enough. by some estimates there are 200,000 muslim voters in michigan and could help determine the outcome in this critical swing state. talking to democratic voters in particular about this issue and you can tell by listening to them that this party is divided. >> right now i will not vote for him, no. >> i was extremely excited that this was a chance to bring down biden. >> ultimately do you think they are helping former president trump? >> i think they are helping him in this situation, yeah. >> i don't know what they are hoping to accomplish with this. >> as we look ahead to super tuesday, there are similar campaigns in some of those states encouraging democrats to make these protest votes if it's possible in those respective primaries. harris. >> harris: thank you very much. power panel. guy benson, richard fowler are fox news contributors.

what is gained by doing this, richard? why handle it this way? and how do you think the white house is reading it? >> thanks for having me. there are a couple of things happening here. if you talk to one of the leaders of the uncommitted movement. they are trying to move the president's foreign policy to israel. based on what we heard the president say a couple of days ago having ice cream with seth meyers they seem to have a little effect. the president sent his c.i.a. director to paris to help negotiate a cease-fire. the president is moving on this idea may maybe we can create some sort of peace agreement in this israel and gaza stand-off. that's exactly what these voters want. it is important for the audience to know these are not voters going to go vote for trump in november election. what they are trying to do is change the footing of biden's foreign policy. >> harris: you might want to tell the governor of michigan

about that because that's exactly opposite of what she said. she said that a vote uncommitted is a vote for donald trump. guy benson, okay, i'm being told that jamie raskin congressman is talking right now. let's watch. this is live. >> from joe biden so what we saw, i when think, was a rather embarrassing spectacle. the republicans continue to be labor completely trivial points. they seem to be obsessively focused on speakerphones and use of speakerphone. i did not know that was the devil's technology. apparently it is. i believe, based on this first hour, that this whole thing really has been a tremendous waste of our legislative time and the people's resources. but i would love to have each of my colleagues come up and share their sense of what they witnessed. ranking member of the oversight

committee. >> thank you so much ranking member raskin. i think the ranking member stated it completely. what we just witnessed over the last hour was, i think, a deep sea fishing expedition because the republican case has completely fallen apart over the last several weeks. after it has been exposed that the critical -- one of their most key pieces of information was based on a source that was in communication with russian intelligence. they are trying to scramble to find anything to substantiate their fairytale is what we should call this. i when think more disturbingly what we're seeing is just a complete and inappropriate expedition into the president's son and for matters and subjects that are completely unrelated to an impeachment investigation. and i think it is extremely disturbing to see the lack of

professionalism and the lack of grounding and abuse of public resources and abuse of public power in order to pursue something that truly -- whose points at this juncture is very unclear. >> mr. swalwell? >> thank you. they've got nothing. that's what we just witnessed for the last hour. one of their witnesses has been indicted for working with russian intelligence. >> harris: we'll pull away from there. this is the oversight committee. democrats are in the minority on this committee. you saw the top dem jamie raskin and then alexandria ocasio-cortez is the next member. she is the vice if you will. guy benson, you heard all of the talk there about a waste of time to talk to hunter biden. yet we had attorneys on earlier, including andy mccarthy and another one who said there are a lot of receipts that go along with this testimony.

>> obviously. these are house democrats who lie constantly about all of the investigations into joe biden. hunter biden could have walked into that hearing today and confessed to murder and what we just heard would have been unchanged. they would have said nothing to see here. republicans have nothing. this has been their story every step of the way. the only way they can get to that conclusion is by ignoring all of the evidence that we've seen publicly now for the better part of several years. there are receipts, tony bobulinski, who worked closely with the bidens, including hunter biden, he has provided some of those receipts to this committee and his testimony. i haven't seen any of his credibility impeached or any of his allegations disproven. there are bank records, meeting records, admissions that joe biden was brought into meetings on speakerphone. what a stupid point by jamie raskin. they take us for idiots. maybe knee are accurate when they think about their own base

and their gullability but i wish we could have cameras in there. when republicans come out and give their summary of what they've seen so far it will sound very different. >> harris: it is interesting. it's not over yet. the interview is still ongoing and this big group of democrats have just walked out to go to the microphones. richard, is this a flex to the president? i'm being serious. you know, it is presidential season. is this a flex to let him know that we got your back, we're in there and have to go back now? what is really going on here? wouldn't you want to listen to the facts you know you will have to refute with your own questions? >> i think they will go back in and ask their questions. the problem when you have these sort of closed-door hearings where the american people don't get to see the evidence for themselves is the problem with that. where i agree with guy nobody is saying that hunter biden is a boy scout. we can say the opposite.

he is not. the problem for republicans. they haven't made a clear enough connection that can stand the disinfection of a courtroom to connect hunter biden's misdealings to his father and there lies the problem. if they could there would have been impeachment proceedings already. >> harris: that's where the banking records come in. the two attorneys i had on earlier this hour talking about this and other cases were saying that, you know, that's why potentially it could take a long time. the paper trail is something that really is how you tie things together. it always is. follow the money. that's such an old and used line but it is so true. a couple of things. one, he is under oath today, hunter biden. republicans are in the room still asking questions. democrats made whatever decision to come out and leave that room and richard, they will go back in and ask their questions. they really want a public spectacle anyway and it's part of the deal. we'll see something that will go

to hunter biden's documentary as well just like that stunt he pulled last month. we'll follow it. i appreciate you being with me on breaking news. good to see you. dueling visits at the southern border will be happening tomorrow. president biden and former president donald trump will be in the state of texas along the border. where they are going matters. so we'll get into that. high stakes as the border crisis, owned by biden, is now topping voters' concerns. and that is not just at the border. major democrat-led cities are at a breaking point. the crisis also bringing horrific crimes into our country. >> this is the perfect tragic storm of a failed immigration system. dangerous sanctuary cities policies and environment where d.a.s won't enforce the law. law enforcement doesn't feel like it can do its job. >> harris: recent days several illegal immigrants charged with

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>> harris: illegal immigration is working against our nation's vital interests. what's the vital interest? our ability to live free and secure as american citizens. we are now learning that just four months ago the man accused of killing georgia nursing student laken riley had a run-in with georgia police for allege i hadedly shoplifting with his brother and picked up on a child endangerment charge in new york city. but they let him go before customs enforcement could get their hands on him. court documents say he disfigured laken riley's skull and dragged her body in an

effort to hide his grisly crime. emotions running high in athens, georgia, as the mayor held a news conference. >> many of the elements -- >> liar. >> liar. >> liar. >> you are a lie area. >> we're here to listen. there will be time for questions. >> you are guilty and have blood on your hands for this murder, sir. >> no policies have been adopted by the mayor that created sanctuary city in athens. >> harris: you don't want to answer to any of that with anything? the mayor could have said my heart hurts, too. i can't imagine it doesn't. wow. alexandria hoff. more from washington now. >> these cases are adding up leading to heartache in cities and counties across the country. it is leading to a lot of confusion as well. you look at outside of new orleans, a 19-year-old in honduras arrested for raping a

14-year-old girl at knife point. police say he entered the country illegally. last thursday in virginia venezuelan man illegally present in the u.s. charged for the sexual assault of a minor. the guy from louisiana, talking about from virginia. that girl was also 14. the 32-year-old. he had been detained, then released by customs and border patrol in el paso last year. shocking. the case of 25-year-old, a 25-year-old illegal immigrant from el salvador charged this week for involvement in the crossfire shooting death of a 2-year-old in maryland. ice spokesperson told fox five that repeated efforts to have him removed from the u.s. were ignored by the mayor -- in maryland, a county in maryland. he was arrested for theft multiple times. originally ordered to be removed from the country in 2022 after those arrests. the montgomery county detention center released him from prison. just this week he killed this

2-year-old little boy or was involved in the death. why was he out? montgomery county maryland has sanctuary status and immigration laws can't be enforced. >> harris: senator josh hawley, republican of missouri. great to have you today. i want to start with a really basic question. i'm wondering how we heal the hearts of people who are hurting today like the parents of laken riley. we can't offer them complete closure. do we straight up deport these people or running them on taxpayer dollars through our legal system until innocent until proven guilty? >> we have to prosecute these people. they need to be brought to justice. they can be deported after that. justice needs to be done. some of these people ought to face the death penalty. you do what this guy did to laken riley is a death penalty

case. you kill a toddler is a death penalty class. to help families have the president apologize to them that his policies have resulted in the death of these good americans. this is on him. these are his policies. he needs to go meet with them and apologize directly. >> harris: it took him a year to east palestine, ohio where they had the explosion of the train. i don't think we can wait a year. last quick thought and we'll move on. >> absolutely. he needs to go and apologize now and these people need to be brought to justice now and the border needs to be closed right now. the president can do it and he is the one who opened it. >> harris: we have oppositional looks at what works and what doesn't. president joe biden and former president trump are both going to the border tomorrow. dueling visits in texas spotlighting an issue that could

become critical in november. it already is as we know, senator, in the primaries, for both parties. >> absolutely. >> harris: customs and border protection sources said nearly 5,000 illegals were apprehended along the southern border from california through texas in a single day on monday. the eagle pass station and the del rio sector where trump is hunted, and brownsville texas reported 511 apprehensions on monday. brownsville station in the rio grande valley sector where president biden will be only 12 were reported. texas's lieutenant governor is going after biden's location. >> he doesn't care. this is all about the politics of the future. they want millions to come here and become citizens and voters so they can control the country. they don't care. it is obvious they don't care who dies to meet those goals. >> harris: trump goes to a hot

spot, former epicenter. biden goes to a cleaned up parking lot. i don't know what that will look like. >> what it says is biden doesn't care. this is total contempt for the american people, harris. in my state where people are dying from the drugs that are being brought across the southern border, fentanyl leading cause of death in mis missouri. for joe biden to go stand in a parking lot three years after he opened the border and say look, it is working, my policies are working. this is an outrage. it is the middle finger to middle america and it is time he was held accountable for it. >> harris: what should he do right now? there was first talk about executive orders before the state of the union and then yesterday we were learning through published reports that maybe he wouldn't do any of that. >> what he ought to do is reinstate the remain in mexico program. ought to reinstate the safe third agreements with central american countries and say the border is closed.

you want to apply for asylum status, fine but you have to wait in mexico or another country. we won't do cached and release and turn around anybody trying to cross the border between ports of entry. turn them around and send them right back. >> harris: that would probably take some sort of military presence. i don't know we have enough people to turn. have you seen some of the caravans? >> yeah, it's outrageous. >> harris: i don't know we can turn everybody around without that kind of help. >> our border is the most important national security threat we face. not ukraine, not something overseas, our border. joe biden ought to commit the resources to close the border. he opened it, he can close it and he owes it to the american people to do it right now. >> harris: that might just really hurt him in the polling but it would be great for america because right now we're hurting. senator hawley, thank you very much for your time. we're waiting for president biden to depart walter reed

medical center. what we started at the top of the hour. he made a previously unannounced trip to the medical center today for a physical and we are expecting a report from the white house with some of the results of that examination if they are available. at least some more detail and there will be big questions about how he is doing, his fitness. voters are very concerned about these issues, as you might imagine. dr. marc siegel is joining me now. stay close.

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>> harris: breaking news. we're watching a couple of things on the left side of your screen, of course, there is that hunter biden situation going on that off the record but under oath meeting that he is having with the oversight committee. you see on the right side of your screen it was earlier when he arrived. they are inside the capitol now and we've already seen democrats come out and give what they called -- they is not worth anything. you hope they would get his questions ready. the republican lawmakers have bank receipts in that committee. there are going to be some fact

gothering missions. they are tying it to the president of the united states impeachment inquiry. we'll be watching all of this as it happens. now this is also happening. and we have a shot of walter reed. the back door of walter reed. that was the president leaving earlier to go for an unannounced previous visit to walter reed medical center for a physical. his press secretary mentioned last week he was due for one. but the helicopter just showed up. press on the the lawn, and he took off and said i'm going to get a physical. that's all he said. we're waiting for the results of that. walter reed medical center in bethesda, maryland. the back door and the gentleman off to the right center is part of the secret service. as soon as the president exits we'll show you that. i asked, you know, what do they do in a presidential physical? cognitive. we already know the press secretary he wouldn't be doing

that. dr. mark seeing -- what are they looking for? >> this is a recent tradition over the last few administrations because there is a long history in america of ob files indicating the president's health going back to george washington. we oftentimes don't know how healthy the president is. in the last few administrations we have had the yearly physical. president biden had it a year ago in february. you know, there was a very extensive report that came with it but it was a significant for what it left out as what it included. a physical itself to answer your question they do vital signs and blood pressure and a full body exam and neurological exam. he has an irregular heart rate

and ekg. cardiac echo. the heart rate normal with the irregular heartbeat. he is on blood thiners and report something to try to reassure us. what i'm concerned about and what the american public is concerned about is what are they going to say about his neurological exam? he has got that stiffened gait that you talk about before. they've been writing that off to orthopedic problems. to a lot of neurologists it is a shuffling gait that looks like it could come from some kind of neurological problem. i will be looking for the white house physician to say what is the mri of the brain show? is there a cognitive or memory test? i expect him not to say that. i think he should. there is a lot of risk factors here and we've seen a lot of lapses going on that would want us to see an mri of the brain.

>> harris: the reason i bring him up. we see him fall and struggle weekly and daily but don't see every move he makes. we don't see him inside the white house. what i have noticed is that can be a pre-cursor for falling. when you get into your 80s and 90s. my grandmother passed and never broken her hip but they took special care to make sure she wasn't in falling positions. i don't see that with the president of the united states. when he is at a lectern struggling and you can see him shuffling somebody hand that man a chair. just put a chair up there. where are his cohorts, somebody needs to be near him. that's why i often bring that up. you are tying it to something different that may also be prevalent in him and we don't know. >> by the way, your point is

extremely important. as usual. if i just stick to the idea of that shuffling gait a lot of people in his position would be at least using a cane. if he falls on his head in blood thiners it is a big problem. i agree that's an issue, too. they explained away his gait last year as orthopedic. but they never said what they are doing to keep him from falling. you are right they're not doing it. they had him walk into the belly of air force one as opposed to going up the front and down the back but still not sufficient. >> harris: i'm talking on relatively flat surfaces like platforms where he struggles. the sandbag incident where he tripped. i will let you go. we'll watch the outside. >> one more thing. >> harris: i have to let you go. bring you back. "outnumbered" after the break.

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