and so i just wanted to see more so i talked to friends of big bird valley board and we raised funds and we managed to get somebody to design and put up the camera system and it turned out beautifully. >> gillian: it did. jackie has quite an eye for real estate. look at that view. that's a million dollar view right there. >> bill: thank you so much for sharing this with so many people and to our viewers friends of big bear valley.org is the website to watch it all day long and we shall. sandy, thanks. we'll wait until pip watch is over, okay? thank you. have a wonderful day. sweet lady. cool project. nice to have you here. great line on the real estate. >> gillian: once in a while i throw one out there. it was so beautiful. >> bill: it sure was and we'll see when they come. here is harris on "the faulkner focus." >> harris: we're getting closer.

fox news alert. right now two very different presidents going to two very different border towns. the presidential election is exactly 250 days away from now. and the illegal entries at the border and dangers that come with that are now voters' top issues. i'm harris faulkner and you are in "the faulkner focus." just a few minutes ago, president biden boarded air force one, that's marine one there but he boarded air force one on his way to brownsville, texas. former president donald trump will depart today as well for eagle pass, texas. let me tell you how different these places are right now. in the past five days, more than 2,000 illegals were picked up by u.s. border patrol as they broke our laws to enter america. eagle pass, they have two checkpoints, no one is using them apparently. they are going around as they have. this area remains a hot spot we have watched for over a year.

biden's destination, well, it's a bit of a mystery. he should have gone last may when the lines were like this, remember that? this was the epicenter. this is brownsville from may of 2023. it was a problem. that town is very tiny. compared to, i don't know, the rest of the state of texas. they were taking it then. but biden was not exactly focused on his own border disaster at that time, you know, politics. again, in a mysterious make-good moment he will go to brownsville today that has just 46 illegals who crossed the border in the past five days. in february on this last day of the month cbp data says brownsville is the 29th busiest border station. where it's really bad is in san

diego, you know the cartels hit spots that they know oh, we have to catch up with our resources and agents. one headline calls out the contrast. biden's border trip is missing one key thing, migrants. well, you know i call them illegal immigrants. crossing where joe's photo op will take place is piles of trash and bored guards with nothing to do. that's the daily mail.com. national border patrol council president said it this way. >> this was the epicenter of all of the ill -- main portion of the illegal immigration for the last two years. ever since these containers were put up the razor wire was put up we have had next to no crossing in this area. it has allowed us to deploy our resource eaves to more important areas to go after the gotaways. that's how important walls are. that's how they work. >> harris: exactly. walls and wires that the biden

administration has fought tooth and nail. the white house with this ahead of president biden's brownsville arrival. >> not politics for the president. brownsville, the mayor of brownsville is republican so he will hear from people who are directly affected by this day in and day out. so again, not about politics. this is about coming together in a bipartisan way to try to deal with an issue that majority of americans care about and that's a broken immigration system that has been broken for decades and dealing with the border challenges. >> harris: but the worst under this current president in the united states history. art dell -- griff, i look at some of these numbers. he really didn't go to the place

that is still very hot right now. what are people locally saying about that? >> that's right, harris, on monday there were 0 illegal crossings here in the brownsville area and the locals here are very aware the president is coming to one of the least busiest sectors in the country with all traffic moving to arizona and california. you played that sound bite of karine jean-pierre talking about it not being about politics. we understand that the president will come here and blame republicans for not passing that senate border bill. let me show you, though, fox exclusively capturing this morning a few hours ago a crossing of more than 100 migrants. look at this video. these migrants being processed right in that camp monument area where it was ground 0 as brandon judd was saying and where among them venezuelan migrants. now the president will be accompanied by dhs secretary mayorkas who visited this area last year and also get a

briefing from front line border officials like the chief of the border patrol. let me show you about why it is about politics. that is this gallup poll. we're seeing immigration, harris, surging to the top of voters' concerns. you can see right there 28% americans consider it as the number one issue facing the country. it was only 20% a month ago. now when the president gets here, he will get the briefing from those that know this problem and this crisis best. nobody better than the chief of the border patrol to inform him. we talked to him yesterday. here is what he says they need to fix it. listen. >> so we need action to fix that broken and unfunded immigration system to allow for people that want to come into this country and make this country their home. we also have to have consequences for those who ignore our rules and our laws. >> let's remind our viewers we can look back to may of 2023,

nine months ago as title 42 was ending. fox cameras were in the sky with drone shots and on the ground showing the waves of hundreds of migrants coming across. that's slowed largely in part because there is that razor wire and deterrence that the state of texas has put right along this area to stop it. the group we just showed you at the top of the hit used bolt cutters to cut through the wire to get to that area and finally i will leave you with this. just getting the latest numbers across the entire southwest border, more than 6500 total crossings, the majority of those happening out in arizona and california, where bill melugin and i have been covering it. that is the hot spot now. unclear why the president didn't go there. not sure whether or not the president will meet any of the migrants we showed you that crossed this morning. remember in his first and only visit last january he did not meet with any migrants. >> harris: he went to el paso.

there weren't as many people for him to meet. they had cleaned up the streets. made it look like it was all brand-new and shiny. it wasn't shocking that he didn't talk to many people or any at all. griff jenkins. great reporting as always. in "focus" new the border patrol president. your boss said biden got suckered into the border battle he can't win. it highlights the current administration's failures. your reaction. >> that's 100% right. that's what it comes down to. look, president trump is going to the border because he wants to go down there. that's what it is. president biden is going down because he has to. for the last three years he has been saying the border is secure, there is no issues. obviously everyone in america knows that is a completely and from day one of this administration, the border has been in chaos, just on his rhetoric. then he got rid of policies and made it worse. and right now he is going down

pretty much the hail mary to save the rest of the campaign because he wants to get reelected. if he really wanted to see where the areas were he would come to arizona and california. tucson sector is averaging 1500 people a day. >> harris: the clock is going backwards on arizona. it was mostly fentanyl for a long time. you and i talked about that because the big epicenter then was brownsville. and then part of the rio grande sector at eagle pass. they are moving farther west. quickly, what does the cartel know that we don't? they are focused on san diego and arizona. >> the cartel is a very complex situation. they know what they are doing and have scouts everywhere and unlimited budget. constantly watching the patterns of where agents are working and not working. if you look at areas having the groups cross, a lot of it is

almost three hours from a processing center. so they realize that agents have to drive to that area and leaves other gaps open. the gotaways, you still see fentanyl and carpet shoes in arizona in certain areas. those are the remote areas where the drug cartels are still crossing into the united states. it is so easy to come across, ask for asylum and get released but areas using carpet shoes where the drugs are coming in. >> harris: tell us what that is? >> carpet shoes. a piece of carpet they tie around their shoe and walk on the desert and that way don't leave footprints and nobody can come back and say a time frame how long they came through here. those are the tactics that these individuals use to further get into the country and not get detected. no one knows how many gotaways have already come into the united states. >> harris: exactly. a lot of them i know from living

down not far from nogales. they hang their tennis shoes, the gangs coming through to let people know this is our territory now. that's inside the united states. art, thank you very much. we'll bring you all of the movements at the border as they play out throughout this hour. former secretary of state mike pompeo will join me coming up. plus hunter biden finally sat down for his long-awaited testimony if front of lawmakers yesterday in the gop impeachment inquiry into his dad, the president. >> i think we had a good deposition today. we got the contradictory statements from hunter biden to all the witnesses and evidence we've gathered. we'll continue the impeachment inquiry. >> harris: house republicans are ready for hunter biden to testify publicly. the deal they made to get that behind the closed door interview.

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>> harris: a live look now. defense secretary lloyd austin is testifying before the house armed services committee on that secret hospitalization, the time when he vanished off the scope as our secretary of defense and at least for three days the white house didn't know where he was, either. he didn't check in. he would have found out is battling prostate cancer. we hope he is okay. today he is before that committee, though, taking questions on what should have happened and what will happen in the future and what things are changing, that sort of thing so this doesn't happen again.

he has apologized saying he should have taken different steps. i can say this, the president should have been talking to him on a daily basis and should have known that he was missing in action, if you will, off the secretary of defense staff. we have so much going on around the world. why aren't they talking daily? this is happening when it makes news in a point we'll bring it to you. right now he is going back and forth and has apologized and taken responsibility. >> we were able to confirm a lot of the wrongdoing through hunter biden's testimony. >> there were lots of things said today that evidence we've already got and witnesses we've already talked to contradict what hunter biden said. joe biden was not just involved, he was a participant in these activities. >> the next phase now is to bring hunter in for a public hearing and hear from the other

biden associates. >> harris: house republicans planning the next steps as you just heard from the chairman of oversight in their impeachment inquiry into hunter biden's father, president biden. this all fits together. they say they want to tie it together. yesterday his son, hunter, gave a seven-hour closed door interview with those lawmakers in oversight and he was under oath. he claimed he did not involve his dad in his business dealings despite what seems like a lot of evidence that he did. a lot. here is hunter biden's take on yesterday's marathon session. >> hunter, how did it go? how did it go? >> harris: oh, he said great. oversight chair committee -- overstat committee chairman james comer said testimony in public is next. now hunter biden's attorneys don't want that.

there is nothing left to ask, answer, say or do. the political charade should come to an end, end quote. democrats with exactly what one would expect. >> this whole thing really has been a tremendous waste of our legislative time and the people's resources. that first hour of when this much-anticipated testimony was the nail in the coffin to what is a complete bogus and sham impeachment inquiry. they have got nothing. >> what we just witnessed over the last hour was i think a deep sea fishing expedition. >> harris: and he biggs of the great state of arizona member of the oversight committees. you were inside the room as we say in that hearing yesterday. first of all, a couple of just highlights that stood out to you. >> well, you know, we aren't supposed to get into specific. two general highlights.

first of all, you can't use one's addiction as a sword and a shield, right? you can't ignore it and give us great answers when you think it benefits you and use it as shield when you don't want to tell us what goes on. the second thing is, you can't -- it is bizarre how you can say well that didn't happen but if it did happen i never told my dad about my business or anything like that. some of these things were so absolutely contradictory they were almost within the same breath where this happened but then it didn't happen. so i think when the transcript comes out it will read well for him. they did a great job prepping for a read but the reality is -- when you get down to it and start parsing the words you start realizing yeah, yeah, that's very interesting. >> harris: these are words that were reported along with what you said that he blamed his drug

addiction and then he would say i made that up. is that an excuse? if your drug addiction is what it is and make stuff up, is that a defense? >> it is not really a defense and incredible because things that he said he made up actually we have other witnesses that said x, y and z happened and he is in there like i made that up, or i was stoned, or whatever he may have said to that deal. we have other witnesses that corroborate the truthfulness of it. >> harris: depending where he said those things they made up if any of them were under oath we call it lying under oath. we will have to say where he said things he made up. we're all over our top story today. president biden and former president trump will both be at the southern border a few hours from now and those dueling trips are emphasizing the importance of the biden border crisis for

the president. everybody else knows, including the former president trump. for biden's purposes, the world is suddenly at least politically on fire. there are big differences in the places where they are going that we've been pointing out this hour. in the last five days the eagle pass station, where one of two that they have there, where former president trump will be as seen more than 2,000 illegal immigrants come across. contrast that to brownsville station where biden will visit, just 46 encounters during those same five days. senator josh hawley on the show yesterday. >> what it says biden doesn't care. contempt for the american people. for joe biden to stand in a parking lot three years after he opened the border saying any policies is working it is the middle finger to middle america and time he was held accountable for it. >> harris: your reaction. >> like kamala harris having a margarita in el paso saying she went to the border.

that's where joe biden is. the difference here, too, is donald trump, president trump wants to be at the border. he wants to get there and i'll tell you what, i was just down at the border last sunday and monday again in arizona and right now that's the focal point, harris, you know that because of where you live down in arizona. it is the focal point and donald trump gets it and joe biden is oblivious to it. this is a photo op for him to try to say i care, please reelect me. that's what this is about. >> harris: i wonder if anybody will point out part of the reason brownsville and other areas of texas are doing better because that state has put up huge containers and razor wire and they'll do that wherever it is needed. i'm wondering will arizona ever get to that point? we'll watch for that. a quick yes or no and we have to go. >> not under governor hobbs, not

going to happen. >> harris: illegal immigrant crisis again center stage and i mean the voters have made this so not just the disaster that biden's policies have created but the voters now are saying it is their number one concern. it is national security rolled in with crime on the streets of america. the 2024 campaign has this as a central issue. horrific crimes committed by illegals are drawing attention to sanctuary city policies now. former secretary of state mike pompeo next. (sigh) (snoring) if you struggle with cpap... you should check out inspire. honey?

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>> he is going now the hail mary to save the rest of the campaign. >> harris: bill melugin is in eagle pass, texas where president donald trump is set to touchdown. bill. >> good morning to you. former president trump will be here in shelby park this afternoon. this is the high profile area where texas came in, kicked out the federal government, locked it down and there have been very few illegal crossings in this area. eagle pass still getting crossings in the big picture. look at the difference between where trump and biden are going.

eagle pass here getting hundreds per day, brownsville getting a handful per day. in the last five days there have been more than 2,000 illegal crossings here in eagle pass. you look at brownsville just 46. look at monday. 563 here in eagle pass. 0 in brownsville. we'll show you some of the activity in eagle pass looks like. look at the images. a group of unaccompanied children were apprehended by border patrol in eagle pass yesterday. part of a group of 60 illegal immigrants that crossed. little kids were ages 5-11 from honduras and guatemala. notes with addresses in new york and texas where they are trying to go. they will be handed over to hhs. the biden administration will resettle them in the united states. as you look at the video of former president trump expected to be out here in eagle pass this afternoon, you can expect him to really hammer president biden on his mass catch and release policy. you can expect him to highlight some of the recent high profile arrests of illegal immigrants

involving violent crimes against americans all over the country. we caught up with the border patrol union president brandon judd a short time ago and told us that the biden administration and the white house didn't even invite the union or reach out to the union before their trip to brownsville today. take a listen. >> president biden going to brownsville did the border patrol union ever get any outreach or invitation from the white house about that visit? >> not at all. i didn't expect it. he won't listen to voices of reason. he won't listen to people that will tell him what he actually needs to secure the border. the programs, the operations, the policies. he doesn't want to hear that. if he would have invited me that's exact will i what i would have said. >> border patrol union taking a shot at president attention. attention president biden. keep your name out of our mouth today. they expect him to bring up the union's support of the failed senate bipartisan border deal.

back to you. >> harris: they know the truth about him. he is willing to spread lies about border agents. part of the union's whipping migrants as they come across the border. they know the truth and they know he wasn't honest or his administration as well was not honest about that. bill, thank you very much. i want to get now to mike pompeo former secretary of state and fox news contributor. it is so good to have you in "focus" today. first of all, what are we up against in terms of international dangers with an open border and do you think biden can hit that? >> harris, you nailed it when you described president biden as the one that lit this on fire. huge domestic implications. we see it in big cities across the america and border but deep national security implications as well. this is fixable. i'm sure president biden will play the victim today. we no he the policies that can stop this. think about this risk. not only is there fentanyl coming across the border killing

and poisoning thousands of our kids. we have had thousands of chinese nationals crossing in the last few months when we had fewer than several hundred for the entire last year of the trump administration. these folks are not coming here for good. they are coming with the knowledge of the chinese communist party, perhaps some of them at the direction of the chinese communist party. whether it's the cartels moving drugs and people and the marv yeah attaching -- chinese mafia attaching themselves to the cartels. someone on the terror watch list will be harm in the united states accelerates as president biden refuses to do the baseline task of protecting american sovereignty. >> harris: we have talked before about what happens to the vetting process when there is an onslaught of humanity on the border going all over place even with checkpoints in place they're doing everything else. the vetting process to find those people on the terror list gets harder and harder and harder. it is hard to find criminals apparently.

critics are going after president biden for ignoring the murder of that georgia college nursing student by an illegal immigrant. he is the suspect, jose ibarra, venezuelan national believed to have entered the united states illegally in 2022 accused of killing laken riley last week. blunt force trauma so extreme it disfigured her skill. biden didn't mention her once when he talked about crime yesterday. >> president biden: our plan is working. we have much more here to do. my administration will choose progress over politics and communities across the country are safer as a result of that, policy. >> harris: let's see if that's even possibly true. it is working, he says? ibarra is one of four illegal immigrants charged in recent violent crimes. two of them arrested for alleged sex crimes. one suspect accused of killing a

2-year-old little boy in maryland. and texas senator ted cruz said this. >> it's a pattern we're seeing across the country. violent horrific crimes committed by illegal aliens that joe biden released. when you release violent criminals into our community, americans are going to be killed and joe biden and every democrat in congress bear responsibility for these deaths and these horrific assaults on children. >> harris: secretary pompeo. your thoughts on it. >> first of all, our prayer is out to the family of this lovely young woman murdered by this illegal alien. directly as a result of president biden's failed policies. when i heard his remarks it is absurd and indecent and i think it raises the blood pressure of every american who hears that. he has made a decision to allow these folks in. senator cruz had it right. we'll see this time and time

again. if these policies aren't fixed and we don't listen to these great men and women working along our border, the border patrol agents and the folks down there doing this hard work. if we don't give them the power and capacity to do the most fundamental blocking and tackling to protect america we'll see this time and time again. for the president to tell us his policies are working it just annoys so many of us because we know that america deserves and can do better. >> harris: the facts don't support what he is saying. you said it before. you said the key policy is that catch and release. we don't know who has been caught and who is released. the white house, though, this is really mind-boggling. three asking the sanctuary cities -- we'll scroll them -- to play ball with immigration and customs enforcement, ice. as the fury over these crimes is now hitting a new height. quote, when a local jurisdiction has information about an individual who can pose a threat to public safety, we want them to share that information with

ice. i remember a time not too long ago when the left wanted to abolish ice. >> harris, not only wanted to abolish ice, a longstanding leftist policy to ignore these threats. when they caught somebody who was here illegally they refused to work with ice. they will still ignore this basic function. not only do we have an illegal alien but we have an illegal alien who has been convicted of committing a crime. these sanctuary cities are throwing gas on the fire and we'll have more of our young people killed through crimes like we saw in athens, georgia and through the drugs that are moving along our country as well. we have to fix this. it is central to american national security to get this right. >> harris: i don't know where you are sitting and if you could see the monitor the scroll will still be scrolling while we go to commercial. secretary pompeo, thank you. >> i can see it. >> harris: another blue state

has taken donald trump off the primary ballot on the very same day the u.s. supreme court justices agreed to hear president trump's immunity case. why even a loss could be a win for the former president. the white house says president biden is fit for duty. no cognitive test needed at that physical yesterday. maybe that would have eased voters' worries, maybe not. it is in the polling that they're worried about it. power panel next. ♪ there's nothing better than a subway series footlong. except when you add an all new footlong sidekick. like the philly with a new $2 footlong churro. sometimes the sidekick is the main event. you would say that. every epic footlong deserves the perfect sidekick.

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>> harris: illinois is the latest democrat-led state to remove former president donald trump off the primary ballot. illinois joins maine and colorado. a judge cited the 14th amendment insurrection cause relying on colorado's supreme court's decision as precedent because they did it there. florida senator marco rubio says the targeting of a former president is simply over the count. >> i have lost count that

involve china bankrupt demand to make time up in court four multiple federal indictments and state prosecutors getting in the mix. it's we've seen them unleash lawyers and prosecutors and so forth designed to achieve one thing, prevent donald trump from being on the ballot. even having a chance to get elected. that is unprecedented in american history. >> harris: it sounds like election interference. let's go to shannon bream, chief legal correspondent and "fox news sunday" host. >> that illinois loss for president trump was the tough part of his day. the supreme court will take up his case on the immunity issue. it's all about the timing. in many respects even if he loses the immunity case at the supreme court president trump has scored a win for his calendar pushing back the timeline for the trial that special counsel jack smith hoped to start march 4th. justices will hear arguments on the immunity question in late april decision by the end of

june. even if the high court's ruling goes against the trump's legal team only then will all that activity paused by the trial court restart. federal criminal trials can have months of discovery and motions. it is possible the january 6th case against president trump doesn't start until late summer or early fall maybe inching closer to the november election. in april the justices will hear the case of a january 6th defendant who argues the justice department improperly charged him with obstruction of an official proceeding. that charge if it sounds familiar jack smith brought it against president trump. it is possible that the justices rule in favor of that january 6th defendant, that part of smith's case against trump could be tossed. let's not forget, days ahead of super tuesday we're awaiting a decision from the supreme court whether colorado rightly kicked president trump off the state's

primary ballot finding he had taken part in an insurrection and the 14th amendment allows him to be removed. colorado and maine have trump on tuesday's ballots. if they are counted depends on the decision from the high court. now in the wake of illinois making same move. >> harris: can you imagine how angry and distrusting voters will be if their votes aren't counted after the fact? that is some unbelievable stuff. always great to have you. come back soon. thank you. >> thanks, harris. >> the president doesn't need a cognitive test. that is not my assessment. that's the assessment of the president's doctor. the president who is also the commander-in-chief passes a cognitive test every day. it is a very rigorous job. the president has been able to do this job every day for the past three year. he is also leading a historic presidency also important to note in everything we've been

able to do and get done over the past three years. >> harris: she literally said the president passes a cognitive test every day and we literally have a litany of examples where perhaps that's simply not true. we certainly know he is not being tested every day. i don't know what she was talking about. the white house defended, as you saw, president biden and his cognitive ability after his physician deemed him quote fit for duty. but his physical that he got yesterday that was unannounced but he went to walter reed medical center yesterday for the physical exam might not ease voters' worries of his age. his actions have only fueled the flames. >> president biden: for muslim athletes for -- and jones --

pass that. -- putin's -- yeah. >> harris: kevin mccarthy with this. >> the problem is, he is the leader of the free world. you can't sit back and say it's just upsetting. i have personally been in situations where i walked out not telling the press what has transpired but was deeply upset as an american of what i saw just transpire just hoping that he doesn't have any interaction with another world leader with the interaction i just had with him. >> harris: our panel. doug collins, and david car lucci democratic former new york senator. doug, come to you first for your timeline thoughts. >> you can have a million doctors stand up and say whatever they want to say. the problem is perception is reality to most people. they see the problems.

they can say his speech impediment is the problem. it is no, sir slurring or missing of words but doesn't seem to know where he is at times. gets lost on stage. he passes the test every day. how about sitting him down with a reporter from anywhere that would ask real questions instead of going to late night tv. they can't do it. i think that's the bigger issue here. it's not what anybody would say. the fact you look at it and see what's happening and as kevin mccarthy just stated this is the leader of the free world. someone they are looking at in other countries making fun of him. >> harris: all right. just sit by david. i want to get your reaction to this. dr. marc siegel in "focus" yesterday with me as the president was getting that examination. we were waiting for the results. here is the doctor. >> what i'm concerned about and what the american public is concerned about is what are they going to say about his neurological exam? to a lot of neural gists i

talked to it could come from a neurological problem. i will looking for the white house physician to say what is the mri of the brain show. is there a cognitive or memory test as you say in i expect him not to say that. i think he should. i think there is a lot of risk factors here and we've seen a lot of lapses going on that would want us to see an mri of the brain. >> harris: david. >> dr. siegel said this cognitive test is getting blown way out of proportion. it won't tell us one way or the other. the only way to do that is to show your work. don't talk about it, don't make suggestions. >> harris: that's not what whoa the doctor said. he said he needs an mri. >> the doctors that the 20 physicians or so this team for the six-page report out and said there is no need for further testing. the cognitive exam, even dr. ronnie jackson, president trump's doctor, said that he

wouldn't have done the cognitive test. that anybody in that position wouldn't do it. it is not the proper guidelines. because of president trump's persistence that he do it he said he would. that's a quote from dr. ronnie jackson, the doctor of president trump, former president. so i think that's what we're doing. we're pointing at something and saying look, do this. jump that high. he does the cognitive test and i don't think it solves anything. >> harris: what david is saying the president would have to put some pressure on the doctor to look at me. just like the rest of us go to the doctor when something is wrong. the big question then is when is he going to admit he sees it? >> i have think that's the issue. someone who had parents who actually go through it and you deal with this. my mother in particular who i still miss every day. we went through this issue with her and we had to -- i had to help her tell the doctor. this was things going on that we were seeing. it has to come from the family and this is not just on joe biden. it is around the staff around him. i have a point to make here and

that is if he is capable to do the job every day and cognitively ready then he should stand and face the indictment calls instead of passing on the documents, instead of saying he wouldn't be a sound witness because he couldn't remember anything. it's either he can't remember stuff and has problems with memory or sound to do it. you can't have it both ways. >> harris: tomorrow closing arguments in the fulton county district attorney willis and wade's misconduct case. by misconduct might have been lying on the stand about when those two became romantically entwined. we're getting closer to finding out the fate of the paramours, he was married remember at the time. a judge will decide whether they will be dismissed from former president donald trump's election interference case in georgia. doug. >> the bad day started off week and got worse for the d.a.'s office.

not a good two weeks for that office. the judge is in the a tough position. the issue is more the -- did she lie on the stand? >> every legal expert is saying whether democrat, republican they don't think she will be disqualified. they don't think there was enough burden of proof to show she financially gained to put this forward to the president. we have to remember four people in trump's team have already pleaded guilty to these charges and it is a big problem for the president. this saga, daytime soap opera with fani willis say trump did anything different. >> harris: if they lied under oath and in charge of the investigation into a former president that is ground for disqualification. we'll cover it and see what happens. "outnumbered" after the break.

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