bowl of spaghetti is not on their menu." might be one of those off-menu items for vips like the vice president. hector from florida, "why does hunter need so many advisors when his dad says he is the smartest man he knows?" the second smartest man he knows is his brother, jimmy, obviously. pete from monroe new york. "i would like to apply for the position of advisor to hunter biden. can you put in a good word for me?" no, i can't. dave from colorado, "the look on your face when ted nugent invited you to shoot some pigs was priceless." i may do it. i may send johnny instead. those poor pigs. poor johnny. johnny from virginia, "first you kill a zebra now you want to shoot a pig? come on, jessie." it's the humane thing to do. i'm watters --

>> welcome to "hannity." tonight we are broadcasting from shelby park in eagle pass, texas, at the southern border. the rio grande right behind us. in just a moment, former president donald trump will join us exclusively for the entire hour tonight. we will also check in with governor abbott. earlier today, while president trump toured the border right here in eagle pass, once the epicenter of biden's border crisis. meanwhile today, lo and behold, i'm sure it was a mere coincidence, for once jill biden decided to take a peek at the border for himself, visiting brownsville, texas, and once again, the kind of look lost, dazed and confused, mumbling, bumbling, stumbling after it is embarking from air force one. forced down the baby stares, and of course biden chose a crossing that is relatively calm, and border patrol sources telling fox news that over the last five days they had only had 46 illegal immigrants apprehended in brownsville compared to over 2,000 right here in eagle pass.

since joe biden took office, there have been more than 7 million plus immigrants have entered our country illegally. we will tell you more about the countries in a minute, and well over a million plus got-aways, close to 10 million illegal immigrants. but for three long years, if you listen to joe biden and vice president harris, alejandro mayorkas, karine jean-pierre, or anybody else in the administration, they've been saying to you the american people over and over again that the border is closed and the border is secure. you might remember. >> it sounds to most folks like a crisis. >> look, it is way down now. we have now gotten control. >> precisely that. the border is closed. >> nor could i have been clear and continued to be. which is that the border is closed. >> the united states will continue to enforce our laws and secure our border. >> the border, we are working to make the border more secure. >> we agree that the border is

secure. >> sean: starting on day one, joe biden and his administration literally, with the stroke of a pen, undid every single trump-era policy and bragged about it. the policies that actually lead the entire country to having the most secure border in our history. they used to brag about it. he is a reminder. >> we have rescinded so many trump immigration policies, it would take so much time to list them. we rescinded the remain in mexico policy we rescinded of course the public charge rule that denied certain life benefits. we have restored the deferred action from childhood arrivals program, the daca program. we have rescinded so many and restored so many that he really

dismantled. >> sean: for over three plus years, this crisis has spiraled completely out of control. as per usual, the administration now all of the sudden want to blame republicans after three plus years of saying the border is secure, the border is closed. now it's the republicans' fault. really? take a look. >> do you bear responsibility for what's happening at the border when the president himself has called a crisis? >> it certainly is a crisis, and we don't bear responsibility for a broken system. we are doing a tremendous amount within that broken system. but fundamentally, congress is the only one who can fix it. >> from the very day i got into office.

>> sean: i've done all i can do, why can't they help me? biden revoked donald trump's efforts to exclude illegal immigrants from the senses. he signed executive orders strengthening daca. he canceled the interior enforcement role. he halted construction of the border wall. he extended deportation protections for liberians. he also suspended asylum deals with guatemala, honduras, el salvador, and of course ended the remain in mexico policy, and then lead to title 42 expired. but this is supposed to be republicans' fault? the country is now waking up to what is the single greatest national security threat in our lifetime. the polls now show it is by far and away the number one issue for more americans. take a look at this video. early this week, a vigil was held for the murdered georgia student, nursing student, laken riley. allegedly killed by an illegal immigrant. in this case, from venezuela. sadly she is just one example,

and the pathetic part is the federal government doesn't even -- take a look at your screen -- doesn't even keep track of all the crimes that are committed by illegal immigrants. why don't they keep track of that? anyway, we'll keep scrolling that. joining us for the hour is former president donald trump. thank you for being with us. the day you came down the escalator, this was a big issue. you were attacked right out of the box. that day, when you came down that escalator, on this issue. >> i was hearing about it from a lot of people, and it was one of the primary reasons in 2016 that iran, and iran on the border and other things, but iran on the border largely, and we fixed the problem, and in 2020 wasn't even a subject. i go out and say i want to talk about the border, they would say, you fixed the border, nobody cares about the border anymore. now it's happened is we've had millions more votes in the first time. we have a situation where this

border makes 2016 look like baby stuff. it's probably the worst border -- not probably, it is the worst border ever in the history of the world. there's never been a border where 15, 16, maybe 18 million people have already crossed, and i think nobody has any idea what the number is. they got-aways, i don't know what the got-aways are. we had millions and millions of people, and they come from jails and prisons, mental institutions, and a step above that, the insane asylums. it's hard to believe. i do have terrorists coming. i've noticed, as somebody watches your show a lot, i think you do a fantastic job, but you say 100% certain. i hate to hear it. that we are going have a big attack at some point. they are 100% certain. >> sean: i pray that i'm wrong. >> you are probably right. it's a very sad thing. but i've heard you say it a few times, and i said, i'm not going to dispute it. hope you are wrong, but there is certainly a good chance. they are coming from numbers in countries we wouldn't believe.

28,000 from china, all fighting age. you don't see women and you don't see men much older than that. it's from 18-25, 26 years old. there's something going on and they are coming from yemen that we are bombing, coming from the congo, from prisons in the congo. the only good thing is it makes our prisoners look like very nice people, i will tell you, because these are rough people coming in. when you see them from venezuela fighting, having fistfights, we never saw that. you see cops -- a lot of bad things happen to cops, but you never saw people standing in the middle of the street with a fist fight. if that happened in their country, they would kill them within seconds. they wouldn't allow it. they wouldn't stand for it. so it's a very terrible thing. our country is being poisoned. we are really being poisoned. it is hard to believe -- as a business guy, you want to understand the other side. what does the other side think he neck even if you disagree. i don't know what they're thinking, because who could want this? who could want millions of people from lots of bad places pouring into our country?

we have not seen -- this is just the beginning. we are just starting to see, i can't make it. i call it biden migrant crime, but it's too long, and everybody will know it's because of biden. we've never had anything like this. we haven't and flow of people at numbers that are unbelievable. you go back to new york and you see hundreds and thousands of people, and you can see the mayor is trying. he wants to do a job, but it's impossible. >> sean: they made new york city a sanctuary city. i want to go back to what you referred to, what i have been saying. because i pointed out, we'll put it up on the screen, the numbers of people coming from iran, the number one state sponsor of terror, their satellite, syria. you have the home of the muslim brotherhood, egypt. thousands coming from egypt that we know of, thousands coming from afghanistan. now al qaeda has training camps up again. over ten, 12, 14,000 from russia, and i read recently over

37,000 recently from china. why would they make that long journey to our southern border? my fear is that we have in this country, because these illegals are not vetted, i fear that terror cells have set up in this country that will plot, plan, scheme the next 9/11 or worse. i pray to god, as i said, that i'm wrong. i don't think i'm wrong, mr. president. >> sean: as of today, 29,000 young men, for the most part, in our country for the last 3-4 months. there is something going on. there is something going on. hopefully we don't have that problem with china. i always had a good relationship with china until the covid came in. that was a step too far. we took in hundreds of billions of dollars from china. no president took in $0.10, not $0.10. and we still got along with them. but when you look at this, and when you look at other countries, we have a lot coming in from iran, a lot coming in

from places that we are fighting right now. you don't have to have bombs. we had no war, other than i defeated isis. we knocked out isis, we took out the leading terrorists in the world, both of them. took them out, gone. >> sean: baghdadi, sola money >> the worst in the world. and you look at it and you look at what's going on with our country, i'll tell you, you come to texas, this is now a war zone. and they view it as a war zone. mexico is doing nothing to help us. they are letting the caravans, unimpeded. they come in by the thousands. you have caravans with 25,000 people in them just walking into our country. so something has to be done. the problem you have is arizona, a very liberal governor that a lot of people say shouldn't be the governor. and in california, newson is doing a terrible job. i mean, other than talking about how wonderful it is, that's

about it. you have an outflow of people, as you know better than anybody. i saw your show with him. i said, this guy is talking about california. millions of people are coming in to california. >> sean: free health care. >> free health care, free education, for everything. >> you go to jail, they let you out, they don't turn you over to i.c.e. >> but our veterans get nothing. and our people have been there for a long time and deserve something, citizens, they get nothing. but they get free health care. if you come illegally into our country, you get things. and this is why they are coming. the incentive is so great. >> sean: are top geopolitical flow, i would argue, is china. russia is not far behind, iran is not far behind. your friend, little rocket man, you got to keep an eye on him. but chinese nationals have been buying up thousands and thousands of acres of farmland, ranchland, and land near military installations. you know president xi. if you called him and said, "i know somebody, sean hannity would like to buy farmland and

ranchland in china," do you think he would allow me? >> i don't think so. they don't allow that. they are very possessive of their country, very possessive of staying sharp and bright, and, frankly, coming to this country and buying a lot. you can take it a step further. the united states -- i'm not trying to equate japan with china, but it is all outside and coming in. japan is buying u.s. steel. u.s. steel used to be the greatest company in the world. it was a long time ago. but i don't like that. i don't like seeing that. part of the reason is because other countries in particular, china, they dumped steel into the united states. i had that problem taken care of because i put tariffs and save the steel industry. but now they letting it go. if you want to build an army tank and you are fighting china, you have to get it from china? i think it is a very dangerous position. i don't think our country -- overall, i don't

think our country has ever been in a dangerous position like it is right now. when you look at what's happened, with all of the stuff we are talking about tonight, the total incompetence, and it began to a large extent with the election. but it began with afghanistan. when we showed that weakness and that stupidity, taking the military out first, leaving $85 billion worth of equipment behind, 13 soldiers killed, nobody ever talks about the 38 that were obliterated. they lot their arms and their legs, just obliterated. and we left a lot of americans behind. you used to cover that, actually. you used to count on how many days. i think he stopped doing it, it is so long now. but it's horrible. there's americans over there, i guess you could call them hostages, in a sense. >> sean: trapped behind enemy lines still. >> it's a horrible thing that happen. and you have iran getting close to building or having a nuclear weapon, possibly 35 -- >> sean: i'm not a fan of the u.n., but they said they think they might have weapons grade

material to build weapons. >> it would have never happened. iran was broke. i didn't let china -- i told dina, you're not going to buy or do business with me. if you buy, no business in the united states. until that in many, many countries. nobody bought oil from iran. it's all about the oil. nobody bought oil from iran. and they were broke. they were acknowledged to be broke. they had no money for hamas, for hezbollah. now they have $231 billion. $231 billion that they made over the last three years. >> sean: and joe is helping make them rich again. the $10 billion that he allowed from iraq. >> they laugh at him. they think he's the worst. he's the worst president in the history of our country. jimmy carter is a very happy man now because his presidency is brilliant by comparison to joe biden. brilliant. >> sean: let me ask you this. speaking of your friend, joe, it would have been nice if he came

to sit with us. i'm not sure if he's capable of having a discussion like this. i tend to doubt it. i cover that fairly extensively. he shows up today. he didn't really show up at one of the hot spots of the border. i played that tape -- everybody has children, and they're all going to get in trouble. i don't care about what they did so much, that is a lie to you, they get in a whole lot of trouble. and they have been lying to the american people for three years. i played that montage. the board is secure, the border is closed, the border is secure, the border is closed. no, it wasn't. our eyes are not lying to us. we have been showing this video of these migrant caravans for three years, and now all of the sudden they changed the narratives. this is republicans' fault? your reaction? >> it is all this information. russia, russia, russia. everything they do. and i guess you have to say they are masters at it. the border is great, the border

is closed, and they will say it a thousand different times, and some people are going to believe it. i think that is probably the hardest thing they've got to do, because they have destroyed this border and they are in the process of destroying our country. we are allowing people in our country that we shouldn't have. we are allowing an extraordinary extraordinarily tough group of people into our country. we have prisons and jails and mental institutions being emptied out, not just in south south america, that all over the world, you can check yr prison population throughout the world, and it is all coming into our country. how can that be good? and how can it be good politically? >> sean: joe biden is here today. i want to get your reaction to that. we just saw the other tape. the other tape showed there are so many of trump policies that we reversed. i can't even list them, it is so long. i gave a short list. what is your reaction? why do you think he is here today?

i don't think it's an accident. he had bragged about reversing the policies that you put in place. what is your reaction? >> well, i know what you see her, because he found it we were coming. you and i made this agreement to weeks ago. >> sean: a month and a half ago. >> that's interesting. but we made it a while ago, and the word got out, and a couple of weeks ago it started getting out, and they found out for sure, you put up a nice little picture in the bottom corner of your television set, and all of a sudden they announced they are coming. but they went to the wrong area. they went to an area where the governor and myself have done a good job on, and essentially it's nobody coming through. so you are not seeing it. this area is tough. >> if you would not give november, the election is on november 5th, about 249 days, if i'm right, and how do you reverse this? nearly 10 million unvented illegal immigrants. we don't know where they are. many are given court dates 7-8

years down the road. dan ever showing up for those court dates. you have talked about deportation. how do we identify them, identify where they are, find them and deport them? is that your promise to the american people? >> you have no choice because this is not sustainable. the cities are going bad. every state is really a border state. the governor has done really a great job, governor abbott. >> sean: ted cruz wanted to be here but chuck schumer kept him back in d.c. >> for a good reason, right? we have to deport a lot of people and we have to start medially. people don't know, dwight eisenhower, a pretty tough president, i never thought of him as that, but ten years ago you start reading and he was a big deporter. he would deport tremendous numbers of people, and they would bring them just to the other side of the board and they'd come back. you bring them again, they come back. then they brought them

2,000 miles back, and they didn't come back. we have no choice. the way you do it as your local police. we have the greatest police. they don't get the respect they have to get. they are treated so badly, they do something in the end up losing their pension. even if it's a good thing. if they stop crime nowadays, they lose their pension, their family, their house, and we are going to give immunity to police and let the police do the job they have to do. i think it is very important. they understand these migrants are. they know them by their first name and last name. they know where they come from. they know everything about them. it's going to be the local police that are going to turn them over and we have to move them back to the country. >> sean: when the fbi was the world's premier law enforcement agency -- and i believe we will achieve that again, hopefully -- you had some of the top fbi officials. they have said what we are witnessing is an invasion of military age men. you asked the question, try to understand people that think differently than you. for the life of me, i can't come

up with any rationale or reason for this. >> so, there's two things you think of. number one, they maybe want the votes. i think they look at these people registered to vote. >> sean: i'll give you citizenship, remember me at the polls. >> i'm doing very well with hispanic. but the fact is you have two things. either they are stupid, or they hate our country. because it can only basically be one of those two things. other than the voting element, which, i don't know. i'm not so sure they believe that so much. i think it is down the road, and although they are trying to register people right now as we speak, we -- >> sean: in new york city, for example, local elections. we've got to take a break. we are just getting started. we are at the board in eagle pass, and we are glad you are with us. we continue. more with former president donald trump. he will be with us for the hour. shelby park in eagle pass, texas. thank you for being with us. ♪ ♪

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"hannity." we are broadcasting live from shelby park in eagle pass. there in the state of texas, the free state of texas. still with us for an exclusive interview is former president donald j. trump. we talked a lot about the border, the number one issue. let me move on to some other issues. probably more than anybody else, i have picked up that joe biden -- this is before the 2020 election -- is weak and frail and a cognitive mess, and i would say in the last three plus years he has deteriorated greatly. i want to play a montage of the president. take a look. >> i guess i should clear my mind here a little bit and not say what i'm really thinking. there is some movement. there's been a response from the, uh -- there's been a response from the opposition.

but, um -- yes, i'm sorry, ha hamas. >> i think, as you know, and initially the of mexico, sisi, did not want to open up the gate. >> when i push those programs, i said i'm going to be president of everybody. where you live in a red state or a green state. >> sean: red state, green state, and president el-sisi of mexico. that was egypt last time i checked. mr. president, what is your reaction to that? 86% of the american people believe he is too old to take on what is the hardest job of the world. >> well, i hate to hear when they use the word old, because i don't believe he is old. i know people that are 87, 88, people that are in their 90s. bernie marcus, as an example. he's 95. there are people that are just as sharp -- it seems to me, just as sharp as they are everywhere.

there is something -- i guess wrong. i feel i'm at a conflict when you asked me that question, because we are opponents and, i don't know, it's a tough question to answer. it is easy, the answer, but i don't like doing it. he's got some difficulty. but it's not the age. i know a lot of people that are much older than him that i 100% sharp. i think most people agree with that. >> sean: i don't believe he'd be capable of sitting down to do an interview like this. i debated gavin newsom. the problem is the guy you're bragging about could not have this exchange. >> he couldn't do this interview. he couldn't do an interview where you ask even if you questions. i said this morning, i say it loud and clear, he should take a cognitive test. but they say that is unconstitutional for whatever reason, that it's unconstitutional. but i took two of them, and ia's both of them. i'm very proud to say. meaning i got it all right. and then ronny jackson did one. they are not that easy.

they show you the first ones, they are pretty easy. you get into the middle category, then very few people could answer those end questions. they are very tough. >> sean: i've seen the test. >> but i think it's important there be some form -- we have this man negotiating nuclear weapons with putin and with president xi, and he has no idea what's going on, and he can't find his way off a platform when he speaking. five stairs, he ends up walking into a wall. whenever imitate him, they say trump had a hard time getting off a platform. every once in a while i will do things out of sarcasm because i love sarcasm. politically it never works, because they always turn it around on you. but i'll tell you what, it is not an age thing. but something is going on. we can't take a chance. this is the most dangerous time in history of the world. we have an incompetent president. i used to treat him -- you know that, i called you and i said you should take it easy on him. >> sean: this is a true story. you thought i was being too hard on him and making too light of

it. >> when i got indicted, because nobody thought that was going to happen, including the fake news on the left. they said he'll never be indicted. like january 6th, right up until the end, "you can't indict him on that." i made the beautiful speech that was actually a very nice speech. i said wonderful things on then-twitter, now truth, because it's better than anything, in my opinion. but everybody has to go on truth. >> sean: you might make $4 billion? >> i own something that became very valuable. it's become sort of the voice of america, the real voice of america. it is what i use exclusively and it's doing great. but when you take a look at all the things going on in this world now, we need a man who is super competent, a man that can do it. he doesn't have a clue. when they indicted me, i said now i can go after him, because this is what he did. and he indicted me four times. you could take the worst criminals in the world, they haven't been indicted four times, and i got indicted over

nonsense, pure nonsense. the radical left said there's no way he's going to be -- like, the thing in manhattan. why didn't they do it years ago? they should have done this years ago. now we are right in the middle of an election. i don't even think, if you look at the rules and regulations, they don't even have the right to be doing it now. but they did it to interview with the election. and now i can say it, joe biden's nose incompetent president we've ever had and the worst president we've ever had. he is a true threat to democracy, because he has weaponize the fbi and the doj to go get his political opponents, and many other people, christians, he is really after the catholics. i don't know what's going on with the catholics but for some reason there is something happening with the catholics. i don't know how they can possibly vote for a democrat or for him, but he has weaponize government at a level nobody's ever seen before outside of a third world country. >> sean: you actually said something to me before we came

on the air today, because the left tries to say he's going to be seeking revenge and using the justice department. i have talked at length about, if you want to talk about the weaponization of justice, it's happening now in this country. >> that's a real threat. >> sean: that is a real threat. you gave a very interesting answer about the issue, that he would seek revenge. do you recall what you just said to me? >> i tell people this, my revenge is going to be success. we are going to make this country so successful, we are going to do it rapidly, bring energy way down, bring inflation way down, get prices down. you look at the cost of food, the cost of rent, the cost of some of these things, it is just -- he really disables our country. >> sean: you said, i would never do to them what they've done to me. i will let you pick it up. >> i will be tough and i will be fair, and i will be seeking to make america great again. you know, it's an expression that we came up with. probably the greatest in the

history of this country, maybe in the history of the world. maga, make america great again. when i see him, we will stop maga. i said, does he have any idea what it means? make america great again. he wants to stop maga. i want to make america great again. our country is in big trouble right now. we are looking at walls and fences. for me, they knew they were going to be invited in. lots of things weren't going to be happening. they are inviting millions of people into our country, and the saddest part is a lot of the people that are being invited in, you don't want in your country. they are very dangerous people. >> sean: let me ask you this, you put out on truth a statement when the alabama court came back with the issue of in vitro fertilization, ivf. >> i did. >> sean: i would argue that, 2022, a lot of people thought overturning roe v. wade would end up being a good thing. we know what the democrats are going to do. they are going to demagogue republicans like they always do. racist, sexist, misogynist,

homophobic, all that stuff. democracy in peril, they hate donald trump, january 6th, but then the issue of abortion. i think it played a very big part. they demagogued that issue in 2022, in the midterm. i think it hurt republicans. you took a strong stand on ivf. where are you on that, and what is your message to other candidates, and where are you on abortion? >> i saw the ivf and a judge in alabama made a very harsh decision. it was very, very tough. i came out immediately and i said we want to help women. this is fertilization, having a hard time having a baby, to put it very simply. and they are helped by clinics and others. all of a sudden it was stopped in alabama and i put out a very strong statement that we are totally in favor of it. i got a call from a very wonderful young senator in alabama, and she said friends of mine were coming up and almost attacking her. they were so upset about it. and i said, what is the issue? explain, what is it exactly?

and we talked about the ivf. and i said, we want that. we want people to help. we are on the side of women. same on the abortion issue. the abortion issue, now, i am for the exceptions like ronald reagan was for the exceptions. very correct, the life of the mother. i think it is an important thing, the exceptions. i also think they are the radicals, because they will kill the baby in eight months, nine months, under roe v. wade. they had the right to kill the baby after birth. i mean, literally, after birth in some cases. >> sean: that was the governor of virginia at the time. i was talking to your friend, gavin newsom. i asked him four times in a row. i said, are there any limitations at all? he would not answer. a lot of democrats said that no government officials should ever get between a doctor and her patient. okay, that means no exceptions? dobbs said 15 weeks.

that is just about a little over the first trimester. >> more and more i'm hearing about 15 weeks, and i haven't decided yet. also, we got it back to the states where it belongs. by the way, a lot of states are taking very strong stances. a lot of states are taking very strong stances. you look at kansas, ohio, and it is going to be the law within the state. they have gone much different than a lot of people thought. but everybody on both sides said it has to be in the states. we did a very good thing, a very big important thing. it probably hurt the republicans because a lot of republic didn't know how to talk about it. but now it's in the states. a lot of states are taking a vote of their citizens, and votes are coming out both ways, but largely they are coming in with a certain number of weeks, and the number 15 is mentioned. i haven't agreed to end a number. i'm going to see. we want to take an issue that is very polarizing and get it

settled and solved so everybody can be happy. but i will say this, you look at the democratic view, let's say the democrats' view, that was a very radical view, because they are willing to kill a baby in the seventh, eighth, ninth month. you can look at pulling all you want, when you get after a certain number of months, especially when you get into six, seven, eight, nine, and after birth, everybody doesn't want that to happen. almost everybody. >> sean: first the baby is born, and then we'll take care of it, make it comfortable, then the doctor and the mother will decide. got to take a break. when they come back, texas governor greg abbott will join us. as you continue here in beautiful texas. shelby park, eagle pass, texas. thank you for being with us. ♪ ♪

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law enforcement officers to arrest people for crossing the border illegally. seems basic, right? apparently not. we continue now with former president donald trump and the governor of the great state of texas, texas governor abbott. governor, good to see you. >> welcome to texas. >> sean: i'm an honorary texan. rick perry did give me the actual documentation. i'm looking at all of this, and i will show more of this on tomorrow's program. you are going to take a walk and talk with us, both of you. it shouldn't be that a governor has to enforce federal law, which is what we are doing. we've got containers, razor wire, all these things, and because you are doing your job, they keep taking you to court on top of everything else. they've made your job protecting the people in your state that much harder. what is your reaction to that? >> first of all, it is true insanity. but also it didn't happen four years ago.

just four years ago under president trump we had the lowest illegal immigration in 45 years. we put in place policies that prohibited that illegal immigration. and then joe biden comes in and eliminates all of those policies, and now we have record-breaking numbers of people coming across the border. moments ago president trump said he thinks the border now is the most dangerous in the world. someone agrees with him, who typically doesn't, the united nations. the united nations declared the border between the united states and mexico under joe biden as the deadliest border crossing in the entire world. because of that, because of joe biden, he's abandoned his responsibility. texas has had to step up. one thing i did, because we are dealing with an invasion, because of the danger that americans are in, because we are losing american lives every week because of joe biden's open border policies -- >> sean: human trafficking,

sex trafficking, opioids. >> right here. that's why i had to declare officially in the constitution and invasion. after that invasion, the texas national guard, doing a tremendous job, the men and women of the national guard, they erected razor wire, border barriers, across -- with the cameras are showing right now is a place where they would be 3,000, 4,000, 5,000 people crossing a day. we stopped it. >> sean: they are now going to california and arizona. i'm sure they are very grateful. >> gavin newsom is upset. there is a saying that my fellow texans will like and no, and the cartels dealing with texas now and knowing they cannot get to texas and having to go to california. they have learned what texans had said from day one. that is, don't mess with texas. >> sean: it really is. i have asked you about the border. i have a couple of issues i want to get to. i think a very important decision by the supreme court,

and that is they took on the issue of presidential immunity. i thought that was critical. then you see what's happening to your friend down in georgia, fani willis. all of this, i would say the left and the weaponization or lawfare of our justice system -- in my view, and i think the governor would agree with me, they are trying to drown you in legal troubles. what is your response to that? are they going to start a trial the leak of the republican national convention? is that their plan? >> they are not allowed to under the doj rules, and they shouldn't have brought any of the stuff. it's all nonsense, you know that. it's all nonsense. it's been a joke. every democrat said they'll never do anything, and they did. they weaponized it and they came after you for january 6th. stuff nobody thought was even possible to be brought up, and they've it. it has reverted to their hazard. you take a look, my poll numbers

are higher -- i have the highest poll numbers ever had. because of people understand it. >> sean: beating him by a significant margin. >> the people understand it. i was very honored with the supreme court. this isn't about me, it's about the presidency. they have to do the immunity thing because, if you don't, a president will not be able to be a president. if you going to make a big decision as president and you're afraid that as soon as you get out will be indicted by the opposition party, by the democrats, by the radical left lunatics who will indict you and try to put you in prison because you are trying to do something good for the country, even if it is severe, it might be a great thing for the country. they have to have presidential immunity. if you don't have immunity for a president -- and i'm not talking about only me -- if you don't have immunity for a president, you will not be able to function properly. you will not be able to do the right thing for the country. >> sean: and they have the other case, and now three states have tried to kick you off the

ballot. colorado, maine, and illinois as of last night. i would like to talk to you both about a fundamental issue. you have two-thirds of the american people now living paycheck to paycheck. many of them have to put the bare necessities on their credit cards where they are cashing in their pensions earlier with a big penalty. the issue of the economy is foremost in people's minds. it has been since 1991 that the american people are spending, as a percentage of their income, the most money that they have ever spent. people are suffering. how do you get the economy back on track, and how fast can you do it? >> the governor is going to help, because there's nobody better at this. it is called energy. we are going to -- i use this expression how everyone else is using it, so i hate to use it, but drill, baby, drill. we are going to bring energy so low and everything's going to follow, because that's what happened. he screwed up the energy. now he's going back to some of the things i did, and he is

letting energy that developed a little bit, but it is too late. because what they've done, if you look at the cost of food, it is four times higher than it should be. so we are going to drill and create a tremendous amount of energy. you look at the new england states, they are paying so much, it's incredible that they can vote for a democrat. but we are going to bring energy way down. everything else is going to follow. we look at prices way down. i made a pledge to new hampshire and to some of the new england states who are so bad, so high, but i will cut your energy bill in half, at least within the first year. >> sean: maybe you could pay down some of the $34 trillion in debt that's been accumulated. >> sean, just three years ago your energy independent and we are soon going to be energy dominant. we have more liquid gold -- he has most of it. we have more look at gold under our feet than any other nation in the world. saudi arabia, russia, anybody. we are going to be using it. right now we get a lot of our oil from venezuela. we don't take it from where we should be taking it. so we are going to be drilling,

creating more energy, and that will bring every thing down. >> sean: i know you've given a little bit of a short-list of people you might be thinking about for vice president. his governor abbott on that list? i know i'm not on the list. >> i told sean before, i've heard that more and more from friends of mine. after this show i think i'm going to hear it a lot more, too. he's a spectacular man. i was honored when i got his endorsement seven months ago, eight months ago. i likewise endorsed -- we didn't have a deal. it wasn't like you endorsed me, i endorse you. i just felt good about it, and he came out and said "i'd like to endorse you. you did a good job." i felt the same way about him. and he's done a great job. certainly he would be somebody that i would very much consider. >> sean: so he's on the list. anyone else we haven't heard? >> it's very funny, i was talking about tim scott. >> sean: you guys negotiated. [laughs] >> tim, for himself, he was fine. he did okay. he was okay as a candidate. but he didn't want to talk about

himself. he's a very good man. for me, he's unbelievable. he's a surrogate. he goes on these shows and he is ripping it would be anybody apart. i called him and i said, you are much better for me then you are for yourself. so he sent a very good job. we have a lot of great people in this party. he's done a terrific job. >> sean: now you know you're on the short-list, governor. great to see you. appreciate your time. it's important what you're doing down here, thank you for your hard work. it is sad to watch that you have to do the job that joe biden and the federal government are not doing, and how they fight you every step of the way. this has been your top issue. the fact that biden showed up today is a national joke. only for a photo op, let's be honest. that's all this was. >> that's all it is. >> we appreciate it. when we come back, we will wrap things up. more "hannity" after this break. we are in shelby park in eagle pass in the free state of texas.

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♪ ♪ >> sean: as we continue tonight, before we go, a quick programming note. that is, on tomorrow night's program at 9:00 p.m. eastern, please set your dvr. we will air my exclusive border tour with both president trump and governor greg abbott. you won't want to miss this. will air that in its entirety tomorrow night. unfortunately that's all the time we have left this evening. please set your dvr so you never miss an episode of "hannity." meantime, let not your heart be troubled. greg is next and we will see you back here tomorrow. ♪ ♪ [cheers and applause]