>> emily: new reaction to the house's overwhelming decision to pass a potential ban on tiktok. over 170 million americans are on the popular social media platform. this new bill would force beijing-based owner to divest or face a complete ban. calls from upset users have flooded offices in recent days and president biden says he would sign the bill if it reaches his desk. its future in the senate remains unclear. this is "outnumbered," i'm emily compagno here with kayleigh mcenany and harris faulkner and joining us today, fox news contributor and president of american spirit enterprises, tammy bruce and fox news contributor and former utah congressman, jason chaffetz. the house's tiktok bill received overwhelming support from both sides of the aisle. vote 352-65.

tiktok responding, "this process was secret and the bill was jammed through for one reason, it is a ban." we are hopeful the senate will consider the facts and realize impact on the economy, 7 million small businesses and 170 million americans who use our service. jason chaffetz, you knew i was coming to you first. >> jason: i love this. >> emily: break this down. >> jason: the vote was strong and bipartisan. nobody is against technology and the product, it is good product. it is the fact china is in charge of this. in the book "blood money" they talk about chinese say this is a projan horse to manipulate what people say and how they see it. content on tiktok in united states is not available in china and pretty rich for chinese to

say this process was secret. are you kidding me? they have hearings and open process, you can see who voted for it. here is the thing, joe biden has tried to have it both ways. we will ban it on government devices. "new york times" reports they are having party for tiktok influencers. no way it passes in senate. chuck schumer will take the bullet, joe biden is more interested in his own power than national security in this country. they need those tiktok influencers to go out so joe biden can help win an election. that issic naed truth. i think it should be banned. it should be divested to another american company or another company can own it. the technology is great. >> emily: tiktok has five months to comply if it were to pass. joe biden met with influencers and it took him a year to get to east palestine.

clearly the votes is huge, that is priority. >> harris: look how long it took him to go to the border, he has yet to go where there are border crossers. oracle, walmart, and kevin o'leary, venture of kevin o'leary, know him from shark tank, they have hundreds of billions to put up to buy tiktok. it sticks around. i don't know if bite dance will divest. if they get bought out, it won't be necessary. mike gallagher, chairman of the select committee on communist china sponsored this bill and he was on last hour and said 60% threshold happened because china did get politics right and fast tracked it. it had 50-0 vote when it came out to be considered on the

floor. that is a big deal, you hardly ever see that bipartisanship on that topic. get 50 people to agree on anything, even if not in congress. they fast-tracked it and had things on their menu on their docket. that is what he told me about it. the fact china would drill down and use it against us on the platform that we're trying to clean up so people's private business doesn't end on servers in china is itch are. not to mention the fact china used the very people, 170 million americans, many under the age of 18. they used those young people to call offices, gallagher told me last hour and said kids were threatening to commit suicide and leaving messages. they didn't know what was going to happen next, over being used by tiktok. i understand what it does for business, look what it is doing

to the youth. he doesn't want to ban it. don't ban it, don't kill free speech, it just needs new ownership. >> emily: talk about the opportunity and persuasive power for the ccp, 170 million users spend an hour to hour and a half per day consuming the news from tiktok. to harris's point, many kids hysterically calling into the congressional office, they are persuaded by ads tiktok puts out. bbc put a posts about the gaza strip, "new york times" 370,000 views. when a 24-year-old u.k. influencer, news daddy, he got five million views. daddy indeed, at behest of the ccp. >> kayleigh: news daddy has quite a following. tiktok is national security

threat and has immense political power and persuasion. national security threat, part of the campaign. secret police stations, institutes, tiktok, this is national security threat. tiktok frames huge events in our country. i spoke with senator josh hawley who said one way illegal immigrants is coming across via tiktok. tiktok is part of the equation. "new york post," flashback to cover we have. world gone wild man tiktokers praise bin laden in shocking poll. barry weiss talked about tiktok and arranging the campaign against israel. tiktok is shaming minds of young children and has immense political power. "washington post" said joe biden met with universe of 67 million, combined influence of tiktokers

he met with. dnc at the time, i don't know if this is still the case, had staffer devoted to tiktok. it has a lot of power. factor one and two pulling against each other and final thing, reboot foundation survey we covered on the show. 59% of young adults rather lose voting rights than tiktok access. harris fau >> harris: they don't have that right to vote yet, they are not 18. >> tammy: we don't like media interfering with social media, we experienced that with x. this is issue about divestment. chinese communist party is invested in this, their biggest play when it comes to direct

communication, buying up the farm land, the universities, that is all an element and this is massive play here in this country, that is why the chinese communist party has been lobbying through bite dance ceo. congress, strange obsession with one particular weird little platform on social media they designed it to be power house it is. if states have been banning it for government employees, federal government has, vote terrific, only now do we seem willing to do something about it. >> emily: digital fentanyl, trojan horse indeed, next a judge dismissed several charges against former president donald trump in a blow to fani willis's case. that is next. he thinks his flaky red patches are all people see. otezla is the #1 prescribed pill to treat plaque psoriasis. otezla can help you get clearer skin. don't use otezla if you're allergic to it. serious allergic reactions can happen.

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>> kayleigh: major blow to fani willis case against former president donald trump. a georgia judge dismissing six charges in her indictment against former president and former associates. live to jonathan with more. jonathan. >> jonathan: this ruling came down this morning, judge scott mcafee struck down six counts in d.a. fani willis election inte interference case for donald trump and five associates including rudy giuliani, smith, and mark meadows. the quash counts have to do with charges related to violation of oath of office. judge writes, these six counts contain the crime fail to show sufficient detail regarding nature of their commission. rudy giuliani lawyer issued this

statement, quashing of these six counts, three against major rudy giuliani was expected. former president trump's legal team said the judge made the correct legal decision. this ruling is separate from another high profile subject. to have d.a. disqualified because of fani willis's romantic relationship with nathan wade. one of the special prosecutors she hired to assist her with the case. a ruling on that issue is expected by end of this week. kayleigh. >> kayleigh: thank you, jonathan. emily, i was reading footnote that listed counts that are quashed for lack of specificity. how monumental is this in the case? >> emily: the error itself is

colossal and i want to send message appropriately of what a rookie mistake it is. first year in law school you learn standards of pleading and same for warrants and subpoenas, we talk about that a lot. it is fundamental and mayor rudy giuliani said it there, without it, the defendant does not know what to defend against. on pleading, your initial threshold step, district attorney failed to do so hallmarks what a rookie she is, how sloppy this has been, how utterly a sham this entire procedure has been and she's making mockery of herself and the courts. the overacts these relate to and they can still stand in the pleadings, there is different standards. she needed specificity, all you

need to do is reference them in the pleading and that is why those remain. my cousin vine, down here this is where we do it. that was her own court and quick x's and o's point, these are options, reindict the individual with more detail provided essentially like you meet the requirements or she could appeal and judge said they would let that appeal go through, he has choice of waiting until the end of the trial. remains to be seen. >> kayleigh: and jonathan turley says you could have delays, interesting decision-making for fani willis here. >> harris: tom dupree told me this is a win for donald trump and the defendants, three dropped charges were against donald trump. what is interesting about that, he's been racking up points and they may seem small, but it is eating into the narrative that the indictments will slow him down and he won't be able to

run. now they are presumptive nominees, biden and trump and that is not working out the way they thought. he does have court dates coming up and it could get bumpy for him and bumpy with biden and the border. interesting. this is victory for trump and the defendants and another kind of check in the box down the line for those defending president trump. fani willis is more drama outside the courtroom than in. >> kayleigh: the judge's decision could come up until friday of whether fani willis is disqualified and hinging on this is standard he uses appearance of conflict of interest, what a reasonable person would perceive as conflict, many reasonable people say there is conflict there or actual conflict of interest need to be proven that this relationship began prior to the case and fani willis

directly financially benefited, that is much higher bar. >> jason: i like the judge so far, having watched proceedings, it is right. emily is spot on and exactly right. i think there was political pressure to get as many indictments as possible, highest count possible. so much about timing and what this does, delays it. they can refile it, november is the deadline essentially, we will know who the president is or is not and there is political pressure to get this done as fast as possible, not administer justice. >> harris: when do we hit that, in june? >> people say election is november, it is really not, it is early voting in september, that is the election. end of september. >> kayleigh: public perception, this is middle of an election. reading associated press and

their reporting on this this morning. she is using rico statute and the case use statute associated with mobsters to accuse former president and others to keep him in power. associated press. >> tammy: this is the point, this has been their campaign. what they thought would happen, this would crush trump psychologically, crush supporters and be over, this was narrative and saw the opposite happening, like throwing the kitchen sink and noodles on the fridge and everything would have to go thinking that is all it would take. that would give them time needed and it becomes about credibility, her credibility about her behavior, what she campaigned on, being legitimate person who wouldn't have affairs with people in her office and this is what you do. you find out you threw it in the sink and didn't know what you were doing, it means american

people feel more confident in president trump at this point. >> emily: i asked june because i wonder if you have to get it in before conventions start? if it looks like that narrative is not sticking, they can't make them younger. what will they do? will they vote for somebody else? >> tammy: switch them at that point. >> kayleigh: we're watching and friday is coming quick, we'll cover breaking news on the fani willis case. coming up, democrats appear to be seething after robert hur's testimony and revelation is brutal for president biden. >> you exonerated him. >> i did not exonerate him, that word does not appear in the report. schedule with safelite,eld? and we'll come to you to fix it. >> tech vo: this customer was enjoying her morning walk. we texted her when we were on our way. she could track us and see exactly when we'd arrive. >> woman: i have a few more minutes. let's go! >> tech vo: we came to her with service that fit her schedule. >> woman: you must be pascal.

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>> harris: biden administration is trying to turn the page after

testimony from robert hur. there were realtime tweets. case closed. but not so fast. hur revealed how the president's ghost writer attempted to destroy evidence following his appointment. >> what did that ghost writer do with information joe biden shared with him on his laptop, what did he do after you were named special counsel? >> chairman, if you are referring to audio recordings that were created of the conversation. >> exactly what i'm referring to. >> he slid, if i remember correctly, he slid those files into his recycle bin on his computer. >> tried to destroy the evidence, didn't he? >> correct. >> harris: white house claims no case against president biden robert hur explicitly told democrats, his report did not exonerate them. >> this independent and lengthy

investigation resulted in exoneration of joe biden. >> i need to go back and take note of word you used, exoneration, that is not part of my task. >> i will continue with my questions. i know that the term -- >> whether evidence existed such that likely outcome. >> you exonerated him. >> i did not exonerate him. >> mr. hur, my time. thank you. >> harris: your favorite part, he would not give up. >> jason: i love this, textbook case, should be in every political science case there is. should have highlighted first sentence of hur report and call it a day. no, they tried to get him to say exonerated. ended bad day for joe biden because they said this. chairman jim jordan did a great job talking about the 8 million joe got as advance and last

thought, it is sad day because where, who are we going to prosecute for mishandling information? it can be republicans, i've seen this so many times in congress. you mishandled classified documents and matt gaetz pointed out, ghost writer tried to destroy information. no charges. >> harris: that was asked, why were there no repercussions? >> eight million reasons why. the $8 million book, it kills me we're paying these people's salaries and they sit there and use a word like exoneration and claim they are here for a hearing to learn more and dig deeper into what robert hur has to say and yet all they do is get themselves on the record and for the record, exoneration is a legal term used to discharge a charge.

it vacates something. it has nothing to do with that report whatsoever, there is interesting op-ed by john foxx that said whether than focusing on why they didn't exonerate him, why didn't they indict him? the memory law could have been leveraged more. >> harris: president biden did the same thing democrats did yesterday. he could have gone with top line, he will not be taken to court over this. he did not, he was up in his feelings about how they think i'm old and i'm a well meaning old man with a bad memory, they couldn't go with first line of the document, robert hur report, a win for them. all they had to do was read that and go on. >> emily: politico had that argument, democrats had a choice to be defensive on biden's age as biden was in the press

conference or try to litigate difference in trump and biden case and they went with the latter. probably more effective. i would say to the john yu point, someone who did what was suggested congressmanacly armstrong, he laid out how facts matched the law. you have to possess information that affects national security and you have to willfully retain it. did he possess it? and went down the line at penn biden center, yes, in his garage? yes, main floor office, correct. finally willfully retain it and shared it and audio recording of him sharing information with the ghosts writer. this was not prosecuted because doj standard didn't think they could get a conviction.

that affects a jury, talking about public figures public as trump and biden and talk about a jury adequate in place like d.c., one guy you might be able to get a conviction, with a d biden his name, one you might not, jury should not be a deciding factor when you talk about public people like biden and trump. >> harris: kind of went off the rails, couldn't make sense of if. congressman jamie raskin went on a bizarre rant against trump supporters. colleagues have switched over from being impeachment investigators to being amateur memory specialists giving us drive-by diagnosis of the president of the united states whose soaring analysis with most

skilled nijja hecklers on full display at state of the union address last week for whole country to remember. do we remember fascismism and nazism and communism and totalitarianism? have we forgotten sacrifice of our parents and grandparents and prior generations? we play pin the tail on the donkey in this wild goose chase -- >> harris: i lost my memory what he was talking about while in the room there. >> tammy: there is panic, right? after the state of the union, he's back, biden is back, fiery and feisty. new poll, lowest approval rating ever, 37.4. no bump, a decline. this is the issue, yes, we've seen this before. this is the other issue with the hur report, it has been released. one thing to have the hearing and conversation, biden denies

he has major forgetful moment and there is transcript where he does, including not forgetful moment, remembering what his corvette sounds like and making car sounds in the midst of this interview. zroom, vroom. did you find nude pictures, strange conversations and that is what the american people can see and hearing about and seeing his behavior and it is not working for him. >> harris: we'll move on. what about the puberty blockers for children, are they bad? england banned them citing not enough evidence of safety, why are they giving them to children in the united states? we'll get into it. hello, ghostbusters. it's doug... ...of doug and limu. we help people customize and save hundreds on car insurance with liberty mutual. anyway, we got a bit of a situation here.

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>> kayleigh: england national health service will no longer prescribe puberty blockers to children. the u.k. review of puberty blockers cited lack of evidence regarding long-term effect on kids. dhs website reads puberty blockers are not available to children and young children for children or gender dysphoria, there is not enough evidence for clinical and safety effectiveness. in united states, coleshg warned of puberty blockers during her heartbreaking testimony last year. >> i came out as transgender in a letter on the kitchen table. my family wanted outside help from medical professionals. it was a mistake. set our family down deceit and

coercion. gender especiallyist i was taken to see told my parents i needed puberty blocking drugs right away. they asked my parents a simple question, would you rather have a dead daughter or living transgender son. i wasn't suicidal. i was a happy child who struggled because she was different. however, at 16, after surgery, i did become suicidal. i'm doing better now, my parents almost got the dead daughter promised by doctors. i did not need to be lied to. i needed compassion, needed to be loved and needed to be in therapy to help me work through issues, not transform into a boy thinking it would solve all my problems. >> kayleigh: it feels like a

grand experiment on children in the united states when some of our respected allies in western europe realize there is not evidence to support that grand experiment. >> tammy: multiple countries in europe. england has clinics and followed these people, it was not forbidden to ask if this was the right thing. we see puberty blockers affect bone density. when you stop a natural process in a child, there will be repercussions and this is fascinating. if you are an adult, adult dynamic, if you want what you want to do, that is your business. this is children and to note and i think this is europe's inclination, children say this is how they feel. even a psychologist quotes, a woman who councils youth, her

specialty, says there are other factors including social media, certain influencers convincing young people to go through this process and become free. the nature of perhaps in part the pandemic, dynamic of empathizing with minority that might be abuse or not treated well. these things as adults we have obligation to reverse this and take seriously for adults. this is a good step for england and we have to do what they are in the process of doing. >> kayleigh: it begins to feel like the united states is not following science, instead pushing the woke, when you consider this 2022 planned parenthood video. they do not give puberty blockers at planned parenthood, unless 16 and above, but will put this out. >> some people decide on gender

identity, it is real and you should decide what changes you want to make to your body. >> kayleigh: they get taxpayer dollars. jason. >> jason: any young person who is struggling and struggling through this, i applaud what england is doing. they are following the science and the science is not there. to do to children not of age yet is so bad. i applaud chloe, that testimony is compelling. if you listen end to end, your heart goes out to this person and i hope that continues. i like what england is doing and should do it in the united states. >> kayleigh: sweden, finland, nor way, a doctor said we call gnrh is chemical castration and

can affect mental health, it is important patient and patient families are informed. >> harris: what we know about management, it is a prostate cancer drug. they can use it for other drugs, not tested on children or for this use. how it works and initially approved one drug in 1989 to treat prostate cancer cuts off hormones such as prostate cancer. the drugs were never intended to be used this way, dr. marc siegel says it can cause brittle bones and will last rest of your life and won't treat hurt people feel, they want to belong and be loved. as children, they deserve our love. they do. and our support. torturing their body is not how to get it done, they keep the parents out, make that clear.

many states in this country, even in 99new jersey, you can'to in with your child. i have a 17 year old child, she is able to tell us things and i don't either, her being a minor does not matter. come on, emily, you are an attorney, as parents we have to protect our kids from what is going in and to their bodies. >> kayleigh: there were congre congressional people who voiced concern. result of the study 240 of the pair tis pants were minors. fda says best way to provide safe and effective treatment is clinical research. you see why a lot of people are worried. >> emily: gavin newsom just signed law establishing california as sanctuary state

for this. a mom moved from texas finally, we can be safe. what about the kids? we heard millions of kids cut school and called congress threatening suicide because they were going to take tiktok away and we're supposed to trust them to change their gender. get out of here. gavin newsom is going to try to run for president, think how politicians are capitulated to this minority that is out to lunch. england bravo, america, you have a long way to go. >> kayleigh: leave behind the woke and follow the science. be sure to tune into "america reports" after "outnumbered," today chloe cole will be on in the 2:00 p.m. hour, don't miss it. more "outnumbered" next.

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>> the judge quashes key charges against the former president. jonathan turley here on both of those items. house votes to ban tiktok. will it happen?

why is donald trump now against a ban? liberal television hosts mock the fact virginia primary voters care about illegal immigration. what does governor youngkin think about that? britain bans transgender treatment for adolescents, dr. marc siegel and here with chloe cole. join sandra and he at the top of the hour. >> harris: this is out, report that claims jill biden's top aide has been a me too nightmare. he still considered untouchable, according to "new york post." anthony burnall has sexually harassed people for years. first lady considers him her work husband and kept him safe over the years. unknown sources told post this,

i have heard him say inappropriate things about people's sexuality. it was a lot of inappropriate remarks. one summed it up this way, classic me too. burnall is denying the claims and chief of staff dismissed without an investigation, calling them unfounded attacks. a former official calls it alarming and a quote from him, it is widely known anthony's behavior is unacceptable and to have a senior staff dismiss it like that tells everyone in the building that behavior is okay and won't be looked into. if you can have the white house chief of staff come to your side, that shows your influence. where are we on this? i would say everybody in the constellation of his bad behavior has a lot. >> you are right, thanks to me,

too, a lot of laws have been passed. it lowers the standard of -- people can be into the white house and refer to someone else as their work husband. i hate that phrase. he is a pit bull, that is a bulldog that makes it okay? this is biden's white house. just keep that in mind as we keep exploring this. >> harris: from this sense, whether a victim of his, sexual harassment or worse, victim of toxic work environment. that is everybody. >> tammy: if i can add, especially for the accused, sometimes accusations aren't true, you have unnamed sources. he should be calling for an investigation to clear his name and yet there is silence. the accused deserve an

investigation so this doesn't linger. that is only way to handle this. >> harris: my big question, why does jill biden have that much power? remember what the president told staffers. if you disrespect others, he will fire you on the spot, watch. >> i'm not joking when i say this, if you ever working with me and i hear you treat another colleague with disrespect, talk down to someone, i promise you, i will fire you on the spot. no if, ands or buts. >> harris: so he didn't mean it? >> jason: evidently not, he works for joe biden and joe biden is running that white house, are you kidding me? >> he works for jill biden. >> jason: the accused person, not the president. he used to be chief of staff. but if you have one person saying there is a problem, you have to do an investigation for

chief of staff of the white house, that is their primary job, you have to do an investigation and for them to say it is unfounded and we'll not look at it, come on. >> harris: i was making fun of what you were saying, maybe they all work for dr. jill biden. >> kayleigh: that was my takeaway, a dozen former staffers. this line stood out, burnall is regarded as rivalling due to access to first lady and ability to intimate he is speaking for the biden family. when i was in the white house, i don't recall a single person from the first lady's office on president trump's west wing. it is curious to me and hypocrisy of it all, they talk a big game about integrity, decency and kindness, when you work for the bidens, you experience none of that.

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