day yields are going to spike in all heck breaks loose. i hope that will not happen. >> neil: we will see, it's early on. again, the idea for a lot of companies that are doing well, you would have bernie sanders say you are doing so well, you can afford to do this, so we will watch it closely. thank you very much, gary called bomb. the dow was selling off today, we had a pretty stubborn inflation report but by and large we also had some other stubborn numbers that have people thinking maybe we got too far ahead of ourselves. we are going to explore all of this and worker demands with the home depot cofounder ken lingo. i wonder what he think's back then in those days, the '70s coming up at home depot, if he had to mandate pay for 40 hours for workers only working 32 hours, what did he think of that? he is pretty frank, some saucy language. we will talk to him tomorrow. ♪ ♪ >> jesse: hello, everybody.

i am jesse watters along with judge jeanine pirro, harold ford jr., dana perino, and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." ♪ ♪ another day of the democrats aloft there on donald trump, while joe biden gets a head start in the big 2024 rematch, hitting the campaign trail in michigan. former president trump was stuck in a florida court house trying to get the classified documents case lost or delayed. trump's defense team hammering the point, other presidents have skated by after holding onto doc's post-white house, just like the elderly man with the poor memory appeared while we wait for that to shake out, the judge and fulton county could rule at any moment on whether to disqualify fani over her crazy stupid love affair with nathan wade. he just delivered a massive blow, dismissing three of her accounts against trump in the georgia election case, which even cnn admits is pretty

embarrassing. >> i don't think this really changes the type of evidence that the d.a. is going to be able to introduce, but it does knock out some of the charges. looks, it's embarrassing for prosecutors. it is a screw up by prosecutors when you bring a charge and the judge threw that out before it even goes to trial. >> jesse: and what could be a huge win for donald trump, manhattan d.a. alvin bragg telling the new york court that he is open to delaying the stormy daniels hush money trial for 30 days, which was scheduled to begin on march 25th, citing evidence previously possessed by federal prosecutors, team trump now sifting through 100,000 new documents. the feds once looked at the evidence and declined to prosecute trump over the stormy case. judge, let's go to you first. what is this new evidence that everybody is being so attentive to now? >> jeanine: first of all, remember, we are two weeks away from the start of the manhattan trial against donald trump. two weeks before the trial, the

d.a. himself, alvin bragg, says he wants an adjournment because of discovery. now in new york the discovery laws are very clear. if the defense does not get information, normally within 15 days of arraignment, that case is dismissed, finished. in this case, there is such a massive discovery violation against former president trump, this case has to be dismissed. and not only that, alvin bragg has dirty hands. you just read it yourself where you said that the feds looked at this case. everybody knows the feds looked at this case. so as a result of that we all know the feds have records. so the feds, just this week, delivered 31,000 records yesterday, which should have been delivered within 15 days of arraignment. the next week there is another batch that is going to be delivered. and after that, there is going to be even more. now alvin bragg, the man who has pushed for discovery to move it

quickly, to make sure defendants get what they are entitled to, he subpoenaed records, too, and when he subpoenaed the records, he only got a quote in his own papers a subset of those records. he knew there were more records. he knew he didn't get everything that he asked for. he knew there was more and he didn't -- he didn't follow through. and now he wants to blame president trump? he is totally wrong in response, the u.s. attorney refused to produce more records, which redisclosed to the defendant. no, you don't disclose to the defendant, you get those records for the defendant because you are presumed as part of the government to have access to those records, as well. and now he wants to say that the u.s. attorney's production is a result of the defendant's delay? no! it is a result of your delay, alvin bragg, the fact that you have no case, you took a misdemeanor that is already pree of limitations.

you have bootstrapped a federal crime to it as though you are a federal prosecutor appeared and now you don't know the fundamentals of new york discovery. that should be dismissed immediately. i want to say one more thing. this is the same thing that is going on in florida. you got jack smith who wants to charge donald trump with obstruction. you can only be charged with obstruction if there was an underlying crime. possession of a presidential record is not a crime. it belongs to the president. the president at any time can access those records. so obstruction only applies if there is a bribe, there is no crime, this is all law failure. fani willis is a half-wit, along with her boyfriend. they don't know how to prepare a bill of particulars. i mean, this is ridiculous. >> jesse: let's get your reaction to this late-breaking alvin bragg hook up, which aims to be quite a significant hiccup, and also what you think is going to happen with fani pitts be too good to be bak with you. a strong opinion on this. i have not read -- based on what

you just shared, judge, if indeed the u.s. attorney's office had introduced documents, i don't know what the rules are in terms of how can you go forward in another jurisdiction unless you fully disclose to everybody, the defendant and the court. i don't know those facts. we will have to wait and see. i think president trump is also in court today in florida before judge cannon's court. his team is urging that the case be dismissed there. i read some of that. i read some of their arguments, mr. trump's arguments there. i wasn't persuaded by his arguments in this instance. i was more persuaded by what the judges said, i don't have any reason to believe the judge is mischaracterizing this. judge cannon will tread very carefully down in florida because the 11th circuit has already o overturned two of her rulings. based on what i saw from fox news earlier, she had some very tough questions for mr. trump's lawyers.

i have said from the outset, president trump is presumed innocent. it is on the government to find and show that he committed some crime. and he should be afforded, as he is, every due process and write to the constitution allows, which is that his lawyers are certainly making their case in florida. how the judge is characterized what is happening in the manhattan visa office in this case is certainly something that will be explored and studied over the next several hours. >> jesse: quite the legal roller coaster, greg gutfeld. >> greg: i'm afraid the judge and harold have taken all of my points. [laughter] so instead can we pull up -- you know, this is another amazing sketch of donald trump. he reminds me of ron ely when he played doc savage. very masculine. i want someone to look at me the way the sketch artist looks at

donald trump. everywhere i go. this brings up an interesting point. you know how president supposedly age faster? for trump, it is his critics. look at robert de niro, right? and look at bragg. he has now like five braggs, like one bragg eight another bragg. bigger and bigger like one of those russian nesting dolls. i think the court cases are having the opposite effect on trump. they hoped it would handicap him and to some extent it did by narrowing the amount of time spent on doing other things. turns out that trump, with less time on his hands, is a better trump in general. it's not just him. i think these cases have also deepened and galvanized support. people see how the democrats have galvanized law there to subvert an election by destroyie candidate so it is creating a new persona for trump, the defiant victim, who through his persecution represents everyone else who isn't a member of the approved elites and their pet causes. so you look at what is being

done to trump and you wonder to yourself, hm, could they do that to me? you are right, they will do it to you, they did it to a lot of the jan sixers, while putting them on a public trial. it can happen to you, jesse. >> jesse: is there anything you like is able to sketch artist? >> dana: please come i will take the sketch artist, as well, that would be great. i am not a lawyer. everybody knows that. what the biden campaign wants or the democrats want, bragg wants, all of these prosecutors want, is for president trump, one, they want a conviction, but as the judge pointed out, that is unlikely to happen. what it has done for the democratic campaign people as they have put 20-pound weights on donald trump's ankles and said, go around the new york city marathon, and see how you do. today, in court, in florida, while biden and harris are out in the swing states giving away

federal taxpayer money as campaign favors. and still trump is in the lead, and why is that? because biden's policies are his biggest vulnerabilities. where they are in the swing states, the economy is doing worse there than other places, inflation today didn't go down. president trump has to take his opportunities to campaign on the weekends and he is doing those because he has the stamina, energy, power, passion, desire to win, and while trump -- i haven't seen the week ahead schedule but as we have seen over the past few years come he goes to the beach for the weekend. i am not against that. if i was president, i wouldn't be doing that. >> jesse: they are just telling me judge cannon down in florida has denied the trump motion to toss the case because of the bagness of the statute, but she is not -- she is not granting the motion under the presidential records act, that still -- >> jeanine: that is still

open? >> jesse: open. >> greg: you know you just said, jesse? >> jesse: what? [laughter] >> harold: i know what you said purely want me to say it? >> jesse: try, harold, give it a shot. >> harold: they challenged and should he should not be charged on because of the ambiguity of the wall. what she said is the law is not ambiguous and i'm not going to toss it. >> greg: that's what she said. [laughter] >> jeanine: but she said i'm holding on the presidential records aspect that i just talked about and i will give you my decision later. >> jesse: thank you for that, judge. not harold. up next, the violent gangs are wreaking in haiti. could be coming to america, and joe biden isn't stopping them. ♪ ♪ businesses go further with 5g solutions. that's why they choose t-mobile for business. pga of america and t-mobile are partnering on 5g-powered analytics to help improve player performance.

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♪ ♪ >> greg: joe biden sitting by as bloody ha chaos in haiti leas to florida. ron desantis deploying 250 soldiers to protect the sunshine state from fleeing. seize control and topple the government after taking up arms against its prime minister. they are being led by a brutal warlord known as "barbecue," a former police officer got the nickname from his penchant to burn his opponents to death and if this does not sound like afghanistan 2.0, americans are trapped within the gang-ranch nation and the state department does not have a plan to get them out. florida senator rick scott lays the blame squarely on joe biden's doorstep. >> this is the unrest that has been caused by a biden

administration that does not know what it is doing. they create a magnet for illegal immigration, and they forced the american people to pay for all of this unrest for humanitarian crisis, mass border crossings. just chaos. is not good for the people of haiti. is not good for americans. >> greg: now, harold, we are faced with actual explosive chaos while we are already overwhelmed by this daily illegal migrant wave. what do we do? if you were president right now -- and i'm not saying you aren't -- [laughter] what would you do? >> harold: well, i would probably do two or three things. one comment i think the president is doing one of them. they have identified guantanamo bay is a place where they can process what they expect and anticipate to be a groundswell of a large number of people coming from haiti trying to avoid -- trying to flee from this. jericho, i think it is important to note that our asylum process is designed to address issues like this.

one of the reasons i'm a big proponent of reforming the asylum process is it seems like today anyone can show up at our southern border and say things are really bad at home, let me come in, and we don't really have a way to gauge or measure or determine the severity of how bad things are. this is bad. barbecue and his team are doing the things they are saying they are doing, there president of the country can't get back into get his belongings to leave the country because the gang activity, something serious going on there. now just one moment on senator scott. i don't know, there is a lot to blame president biden for and hit his administration for in terms of inaction around the border, and i have been want to do it. i don't know how haiti has been wrecked with chaos and disarray and violence, regrettably, we talked a little bit about in the green room before coming in just how it's amazing the length of time that haiti has gone through the kind of disarray that it has. so i don't know where he was coming from. i get the criticism about our

border policy, but we've got to deal with this and i think their idea, greg, to perhaps take these people, take these migrants to guantanamo and process them there is a smart thing because i'm like governor desantis, how do you put withstand that pressure on your border if you don't have a large scale plan to address it? >> greg: i'm disappointed because conan o'brien and all of those other celebrity's will be haiti was great and even went to a five star hotel prove it. harold makes a good point, dana, which i'm surprised. he talked about the asylum process. and this goes back to what -- the asylum process has been so abused that it is now essentially -- >> dana: it's meaningless. >> greg: yeah. >> dana: when you say, harold, you don't know what biden could have done -- >> harold: about haiti. >> dana: i'm going to tell you. so 18 months ago is when the elected leader was murdered. and then they put the new guy in. and that guy never actually was

elected. he was never accepted. the police wouldn't respond to him. then the gangs, there were rival gangs, and that all of those gangs banded together. so now they are just one big large gang under barbecue. and the leader of the country left vehicle in the meantime, this is what the biden administration -- they are like, hm, french, macron will you help? can canada, will you help? the canyon said we will give it a shot and fly halfway around the world, 90 miles off the coast of america to try to solve this. you can't send our soldiers they are. the bangladesh he said maybe help. and t the biden administration meantime is looking, for 18 months, and to me, i think this is an emergency that desantis is on top of because he has to be but the biden administration has a border czar. where is she? i thought she was a foreign

policy expert. i don't know where all of this could have possibly gone wrong. and desperate people will leave, and believe me, these people are desperate and if they were to get to the southern border they would not walk across with a neck pillow and a louis vuitton suitcase. they have nothing eat. it is a terrible situation. i know the biden administration has a lot of stuff on their plate all around the world but now all of a sudden you say immediately we are going to get the americans out -- it has been going on for months. americans should have been gotten out before then. then. >> greg: dana makes a great contrast, judge. we spent the last i don't know how long watching people gingerly walk up to the border with their suitcases and their fresh clothes. they do not look like they are seeking asylum. now you have the real thing. and it makes the point even clearer. >> jeanine: and makes it very clear. just to add to what dana was saying, joe biden decides he is going to throw money at it and give $150 million to haiti.

who is he giving it to? barbecue? i mean, there is no government. it is just gangs there. >> harold: what should he -- i still don't understand -- >> jeanine: let me just finish. greg, you talked about haiti is great, haiti is wonderful, when somebody made a comment that it wasn't such a great place. well, if it is so wonderful and so great, that's not fair, either. because for years no one has built up haiti. for years no one has said, look, these people are in a mess. we've got to help them out. bodies are now decomposing. prisons are open. now they are going to come to the united states, and they do have an asylum claim, harold. my concern is the prisoners, they get out of jail, and ron desantis now is in the same position as greg abbott. he is going to try to stop them, and then biden is going to try to stop ron desantis, and the amazing thing is that, you know, my understanding, dana, is the state department doesn't have a plan to evacuate americans. just like afghanistan. they don't even know how many

americans are they are. >> dana: could be thousands. >> harold: but 18 months ago when this problem was happening, why didn't the americans who what where they are leave? >> greg: what were they doing there? >> harold: that's even bigger question. i still haven't heard what president biden should have done. >> greg: in invest a ton of money there. >> jeanine: $4.4 billion in aid and hillary clinton oversaw it as secretary of state and now haiti is a failed state. where did $4.4 billion go? >> harold: they missed it. you all gave money, president bush. >> greg: i didn't give anybody a dime. >> dana: guess what, you did. >> greg: i stand corrected, jesse. are you going to get barbecue on your show? [laughter] >> jesse: yes. >> greg: there you go. >> jesse: the assassination was very suspicious. there were multiple dea informants and fbi informants

indicted for being a part of the assassination plot. they pinned it on the wife. maybe she did, maybe she didn't. i don't know. but it looks sketchy and then so you have a failed state, the guys out of the country, they are going to have to come in with all of this cash and there is going to be some really rough guys that are going to have to go in there and hand cash out and just calm things out, pay off the gangs, and that eventually you are going to have a free and fair election, which no one is going to believe, so we are going to have to prop up some guy that is probably going to take some orders from the united states, but it never needed to get this bad. the worst possible scenario is this summer you see rafts and haitian vessels pour into florida come up pour into texas, alabama, and joe biden, you kno, haitians are the one group of people he doesn't want coming here. remember a couple of years ago they were amassing under the bridge -- he doesn't want them. he does not want them.

>> jeanine: 12,000 under the del rio bridge. >> greg: maybe we can get a comedic actor in haiti to become president. >> dana: the other thing, i'll just say, when the marines were sent to liberia off the coast, and there weren't that many of them, sent out the coast of iberia, charles taylor said, sorry, i'm out of here, and he left. that is one thing they have done, they could even do now. >> greg: let's move on, shall we? enough out of you. coming up, kamala sharing her deep thoughts again. watch this. >> who is your favorite king you have met? [laughter] >> you are all kings. [laughter] >> greg: aww, the vp revealing what she does all day. ♪ ♪

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that is joe biden's reelection bid. charlamagne tha god giving his brutal assessment of how things are going for joe when it comes to the black vote of. >> when you look at joe biden's approval ratings come he is getting [bleep] kicked everywhere. in order to really get that campaign on the right track, they have to start looking at the totality of what's happening with that campaign and how different groups of people feel about him. >> jeanine: and kamala harris is making the rounds in an effort to shore up support for the ticket, but try not to laugh as she struggles to explain what she does every day. >> how do you spend your time? what you do? >> in terms of the work, i tell you, i have, by now, count it, i've met over 150 world leaders. i have been a part of pushing forward an agenda that is about what we need to do around gun violence and safety. a lot of my work has been to get more money into community banks, to extend access to capital for

small businesses. >> jeanine: okay. you know, trump supporters, jesse come among black voters is up 500% in four years. do you think charlamagne tha god is onto something? >> jesse: he is. i don't know if you read axios the other day, dana, they really laid it out very crisply, judge. there was a great allegiance black americans to the democrat party but it was based on the civil rights movement. they have grown up in the shadow of the civil rights movement, it is fresh in their mind, they identify black america with the struggle for civil rights. and as generations past five, the young black americans are saying, what have you done for me lately? why are we keeping voting for democrat politicians when things aren't getting better? when they keep talking a lot about the past but we want to talk about the future. now kamala harris, can you imagine a reporter asking dick cheney, what do you do all day? they only asked kamala what do you do all day because she is

always justifying her existence. and she has counted the world leaders she has met, judge? that is what children do. 150 world leaders. like, no one cares the number. what have you actually accomplished? she couldn't name it. >> jeanine: you know, the truth is that kamala harris has today visited an abortion center. how do you think that plays to americans, dana? >> dana: not exactly sure. i would imagine that this was given some consideration, careful consideration at the white house, because she has been designated the person on the democratic side that is going to lead the charge to fight back against republicans this election cycle on the issue of abortion. and she can spend her time doing whatever she wants. i was floored when i read the headline today that said "kamala harris will make history today by visiting an abortion clinic."

and it's not that people who are visiting the clinics are bad people. i am not at all saying that. why go and make history to do that? why not talk about -- maybe visit a foster care family that is bringing in children who need care. the foster care system is so critical to our country and gets very little attention, especially public attention. it needs a lot more of it and a lot more support. so i just thought that was something today that i wouldn't necessarily have done. it's interesting, too, greg mentioned it yesterday, the issue of men and women separating on many issues, and it's not -- this is, i actually think this is across all races. i don't necessarily think it is just either in the black community or white community, i think it is across the board. and black communities, harold can correct me if i'm wrong, but for a long time, the culture of life is strong they are. i wouldn't have gone to the abortion clinic, for sure.

>> jeanine: first on that one. all right, charlamagne tha god is now being called an maga messenger. in a negative way. isn't he just reading the room? >> harold: i think he has every right to say what he wants to say. he certainly has an enormous microphone now. and he has given his thoughts as he should. i would say a couple of things. just to put things in context for one moment. i have been critical of the biden campaign, trying to be constructively critical if you're giving him advice on how you should go about thinking -- how you campaign all voters, particularly black and hispanic voters, which is the same way you campaign with everybody else. we want good schools, we want safe neighborhoods, we want our country to be safe, we want prices to go down. if you have a message around that, you are going to resonate i think with all voters, particularly black and brown voters, black and hispanic voters. two, some context come in 2022 we thought republicans would really rack up a lot of big victories, democrats actually drew their advantage in the senate by a vote and in the house. because ken buck is leaving the

house at the end of the month, the colorado republican congressmen, the republicans only had a 3-seat majority. it will be a 2-seat majority because santos, the scene has gone to tom suozzi. you look at '23, democrats reelected beshear in kentucky, kept the majority in the state senate in virginia in one met the statehouse in virginia. ohio decided to protect women's right to an abortion and made it a constitutional protection in the state. so democrats have something to fall back on. i do think it is somewhat unfortunate that we are going to have another campaign around abortion, and it is going to be -- it is going to be messy. it is going to be divisive. but it's going to come down to the border and abortion, and i thing the thing that could tip it, if the economy does not get better for everyday americans, and the numbers seem to be trending in the right direction but in everyday americans do not feel more economically secure, it will probably be something in favor of president trump. >> jeanine: all right, greg, i save this one for you. kamala harris is in charge of a

round table talking about marijuana reform, which i think is kind of ironic given the fact that she has put over 1500 people in jail for marijuana possession, and then when asked about it, she laughed. do you think she is going to make a lot of friends here? >> greg: i have no idea. i have to agree with harold. abortion is -- it's divisive, literally. and it is messy, literally. so it will always remain that way for a lot of people. i think when you look at kamala and charlamagne or leonard michael v -- is his name? that's his name. >> jesse: his name is leonard? >> greg: that's why he changed it. two sides of the same story, right? this is a party about abortion and it is a party for women and men of every color are seeing how they are being abandoned by being branded as the lowest on the totem pole of

identity. this is what happens with identity politics. you create a hierarchy, right come of identities, and one gets stacked on the other and all of this energy is placed on pigment and not people and that is a hell of an opportunity cost because as the dei programs blossom, nothing is being done about prices, crime, illegal immigration. however, you are seeing a lot of conflict between groups of people because that is what dei does. it even has conflict within dei. i think the problem with the dems is that it attracts -- it now attracts a person who attaches herself to every current because, as long as it is politically correct, and their compassion, so-called compassion, gives them the excuse to be toxic to everyone else, especially other women they don't share their views with. whether it is riley gaines or ashli babbitt, both different types of victims, that liberals

don't care about. i think a man at a certain point are like, we can only not a long for so long. yeah, we get it, that's good, but then it's like, we will see our way out. if you got charlemagne off to the side and said what is really bothering you, what is this party? what is this party? abortion, abortion, identity, identity, identity, why aren't we talking about jobs? why aren't we talking about prices, real prices? why aren't we talking about immigration? why is it always about my skin color? >> jesse: thank you for standing up for men, greg. >> greg: this is my new crusade. i will stand up for you, too, jesse. [laughter] >> dana: men and boys. >> greg: yes. >> jeanine: coming up, "the five" will not only be on four days a week. a socialist bernie sanders gets his way. ah! ♪ ♪ type 2 diabetes? discover the ozempic® tri-zone.

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♪ ♪ >> harold: imagine working just four days a week. the senator bernie sanders is serious about this idea. so serious he is pushing a bill that would reduce the standard work week from 40 to 32 hours, but you would still get the same pay, even if you over talk someone peak of the senator getting feisty with our very own hillary bond when she pressed him on it in the senate hallways. watch this this. >> we work the longest hours of any people in the industrial world. time for a short work week. >> ask a question about that pivoting like democrats want businesses to be taxed more -- lower prices, and now we are paying people not to work. >> what i would like -- >> how are businesses going t to -- >> harold: dana, you seem like you might have coached, she was so good there. >> dana: she is so common he

was yelling at her like get off my lawn, hillary. funny, you are talking about a 40 hour workweek, you are a democratic member of congress, what is the last time washington worked 40 hours in washington? >> harold: what do you think about the proposal? >> dana: here is the thing. i think the reality is i think this is going to happen. maybe not in the next ten years -- maybe within ten years, but for some people, it is a reality already and it is happening for them and they are figuring out a way to do it. i also think that having a good job that you love with people that you like working with such a benefit, so good for your mental health, it's great for your socialization, it's great for the economy, it's great for you to be able to provide for your family, and to put savings away so you can have money for a rainy day or save up for your retirement and not think that the government is going to do this for you. now remember own hillary clinton said it is going to be so great when we have obamacare because then you can learn to play the flute and write poetry? that doesn't help the economy.

we need people to be able to work. i wonder if he thinks of all of these people coming across to america because they want economic advancement, do you think they only want to work 32 hours? better hope not. >> harold: exclamation point, what are your thoughts here? >> greg: first of all, dana, not everyone gets to do the job they love. my knee injury event in my career at chippendale's so here i am at "the five." this proposal never goes away. i think it will be hard on people like jesse, switching to a four-day workweek because then they will have to work two extra days. but i go by what i see. technology has allowed you to compress work, but also expand and camouflage tedium. so you get all the work done in a fraction of the time and spend the rest of the day on social media texting, or rereading emails you sent that you are really proud of. >> dana: [laughs] i do that. [laughter] >> greg: who doesn't do that? >> dana: i nailed that. >> greg: i wonder what they're thinking. purely in your face! >> harold: judge, what do you

think about this? >> jeanine: you know, i don't have a lot of thoughts on this. 70% of americans are living paycheck to paycheck. that scary. any read things like france does it, nor way does it, denmark works these lesser hours, and they say there is an increase in productivity. i worry about the businesses. i don't know what the businesses are going to do. you know, if you want to reduce your stress level, but the phone down and go for a walk in the woods like jesse does every morning. or, you know, learn to breathe. i never learned to breathe. >> dana: same. >> jeanine: it gives me anxiety. i breathed income i get anxious. okay, that's it, i'm done. >> harold: defending yourself you're? >> jesse: i'm so glad you came to me, harold. and get it together i interviewed an anti-work activist and her proposed policy is this. two months paid off. that is not including vacations and holidays. holidays you don't even have to ascribe to the religion. i can take kwanzaa.

greg can take rosh hashanah even if he is not jewish. also, if you have a baby come on maternity leave is a year and paternity is a year. this is what she wants but she didn't think about how that would result in probably the economy of spain. no offense to spain. we love you. but we don't want to be spain. >> harold: today marks two years since the deadly attack in ukraine that took the lives of two of our fox news colleagues and changed benjamin hall's life forever. he joins us next.

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♪ ♪ >> dana: welcome back. today marks two years since the attack in ukraine that devastated the fox news media family. a vehicle carrying three journalists was struck in ukraine by russian fire. along with fox news photographer pierre zakrzewski was killed. we also lost producer sasha kuvshynova. she was just 24 years old. pierre and sasha's heroism and hard work will never be forgotten, and fox news correspondent benjamin hall, he was the sole survivor in the attack and suffered severe injuries, which he has overcome. and he has overcome so much physically and has found strength and courage in his journey, and he joins us now. it is wonderful to see you --

and looking so well. >> benjamin: nice to see you guys. >> dana: up on a day like this, what does an anniversary bring up for you? >> benjamin: i think there are two parts to it. one hand, it's about my own journey. how i have recovered. how far i have come here but i feel immensely grateful for that. many soldiers who were injured like i have been injured called them your "alive day," you look forward and get a second chance at life, don't waste that opportunity. on the other hand, have to remember pierre and sasha. my injuries can heal, i can walk, i am fine, but that is an injury that can't heal so i think today is about remembering them and their families and the work they have done and giving the day to them rather than to me. >> dana: take it or on the table for any sorts of questions peered >> greg: i talked to joey jones a lot about this and when he talks about what happened, it always amazes me, the resiliency of the human body and the human mind. how did you feel about how you responded to it? were you surprised that you could handle it? >> benjamin: yeah, you know, i

have covered a lot of conflicts and i have seen a lot of people injured the way i have been injured and i always ask myself, how would it be if i was there? would i cope with it? and to be honest, and very proud of the way i did cope with it. i knew what was needed. i knew i had to get home to my family. if you have one goal in mind and you trust the people around you, you can get through it. i honestly think that strength is inside everyone. you might not believe it but when your back is to the wall, when you have nowhere to go, you will find that extra strength, and i found that numerous times when i didn't think i could keep going. i told myself i had extra strength. i told myself i could get through pain, and you can. you can. it inside you. people have to remember that. >> dana: judge? >> jeanine: what about your faith? is your faith in god, is it something that you call upon as a part of your life now? >> benjamin: it's really interesting because when i was lying on the side of the road in my leg was gone, my foot, and i was badly injured, i went to two places. i thought of my family and my children. the other was to god. i am a catholic but i don't go to church that often. nevertheless, that's where i

went. when everything else is taken away from you, i said a prayer. and so, that stays close to me. i still feel very spiritual. though i have not gone to church as often as i said, but i certainly feel a connection now that i didn't before. >> harold: i thought one of the most incredible parts of your story when you came two years ago, the vision of your kids and how at that very moment how that made you react. and two, you wanted to be away from them during part of the recovery because you didn't want them bogged down by this pure hotel just a little bit of that again, i am still amazed, remarkable to hear you share thf the story peered >> benjamin: the second bomb had landed and injuries on my face, shrapnel in the eye at the throat and my skull. i saw my daughter. i blacked out. she came to me and i saw her she said, daddy, get out of the car coming up to get out of the car and that was the second before the third bomb hit the car itself. she has been incredibly important throughout all it, all of my daughters have. they continue to motivate me

today. >> dana: your paperback is now out. it's an amazing book. jesse has a book -- >> jesse: i suggest everybody get saved. not my book, get it together. >> greg: that is so hard for him. >> benjamin: there is space for two books on the shelf. >> jesse: if you say so. >> jeanine: you give so many other people strength when they say, why am i worried? god bless you for what you've done for us peered >> benjamin: whether it is losing limbs or having a very difficult day at work or with your family, you think about and find a way through. >> dana: will be right back. ya know, if you were cashbacking you could earn on everything with just one card. chase freedom unlimited. so, if you're off the racking... ...or crab cracking, you're cashbacking. cashback on flapjacks, baby backs, or tacos at the taco shack. nah, i'm working on my six pack. switch to a king suite- or book a silent retreat. silent retreat? hold up - yeeerp? i can't talk right now, i'm at a silent retreat.

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>> dana: it's time for "one more thing." oh, i'm not sure. oh not in charge. >> greg: i will take it from here, children. this is embarrassing. [laughter] >> greg: this is a popular show and nobody takes it zeroously.

>> judge jeanine: this? >> greg: tonight 10:00 p.m., kat timpf, tyrus. this is going to be a great one. >> jesse: tonight "jesse watters primetime" the aaron rodgers v.p. threat has people going bonkers. it uninto "jesse watters primetime" 8:00 eastern. >> greg: is he on? >> jesse: he is on after barbecue. >> dana: get it together comes out on tuesday. >> judge jeanine: don't forget that nothing but better than a sweet treat after dip beer. oneally should have made it to the oscars. delivering amazing performance eating her food to get ice cream afterwards. watch this. >> dana: my sister angie. she had that years ago. >> judge jeanine: going to toss? >> bret: dana is always in charge, jesse. never forget that good evening. i'm bret baier