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ahead of us. books were going to rebuild the port together. >> the white house avows unlimited support for reconstruction efforts. maryland governor westmore on the massive work i had to get the port back in business. tensions and deepen between u.s. and israel over the war in gaza. cease-fire resolution passes united nations the u.s. refusing to veto part will speak at gop senator rick scott of florida at fresh off his visit to israel california democratic congressman wrote. plus new york judge and gag order against president trump in the stormy daniels hush money case a grid across the country in los angeles lawyers for the president son back in court are going to tax the charges against hunter are politically motivated and should be tossed apart our legal panel breaks it down and our sunday panel brand-new fox polls show just how voters feel about the economy. and how it is affecting their choice for the white house come

november. all right now on "fox news sunday." ♪. shannon: hello from foxnews in n washington. happy easter to that millions who are celebrating today we begin headlines from the early investigation what led to a massive container ship in baltimore harbor slamming into the scott key bridge early tuesday morning the death of six people but minutes before it was set to go under the bridge the ships alarms rang out the lights went out. the while stopped the writer froze. one of first places investigator's are examining on board is the electrical generators that power nearly every system. whether the fuel used to run them may have been contaminated. back in august 302 vessels from texas to singapore reported contaminated fuel some of them reporting a loss of power and movement at sea. in a moment are interviewed maryland governor west westmore

first we turn to madeleine rivera near the wreckage of the bridge. >> good morning demolition crews here are facing a dangerous and daunting task. at the moment they're focusing on the north side of the bridge behind neighbor they are cutting up pieces of metal and lifting them offsite. they went to open up a channel to allow small vessels to pass through this 24/7 operation requiring extensive engineering analysis to make sure the work is done as safely and as quickly as possible. liberal cranes have been dispatched including the chesapeake 1000 capable of lifting 1000 tons. state officials have not given an estimate as to how long it will take to clear up the de debris, recover the four remaining missing people, reopen the port and remove the ship but they understand the pressure with 8000 workers on the docks impacted millions of dollars worth of goods and capable of transiting. president biden is expected to

visit baltimore next week. shannon: madeline thank you so much for it now to our interview with the governor democratic governor wes moore. i'll come back to "fox news sunday." we know this is a trying time for you, for the people of baltimore and maryland more broadly. can you tell us anything about where we are in recovering those who are still missing and investing in what happened? the president talked about the need for emergency federal money to flow in there. do you assess eventually others may be held accountable and contribute to what would be a massive rebuild? >> yes, our prayers continue to go out to these families who are just living a nightmare right now. and her prayers going out to the first responders who have been working 24/7 to try to make sure we are giving the closure to the families that they need and they deserve it. and also making sure we can continue to open up this channel. the thing we know there's an

ongoing investigation there needs to be an ongoing investigation as to what happened. i want that investigation to be speedy and for anyone who needs to be held accountable, to be held accountable. at the same time we got to get this channel open. we've got to get commerce and flowing again we've got to rebuild the francis scott key bridge. shannon: a couple notes on the data what happened at the port ask io said it port supports more than 15000 direct jobs more than 13,039,000 indirect jobs generating about $3.3 billion in total personal income. there's a massive impact on your community there. >> it is. it's not just a massive impact on maryland. this is a massive impact on the national economy. we are talking one of the busiest ports inside the entire country. a port that handles more cars, more heavy trucks, more agriculture equipment that any other port inside this country. this is not just impacting maryland this is impacting the farmer in kentucky. it is impacting the auto dealer

in ohio. it is impacting the restaurant in louisiana and in tennessee. this is impacting the entire country. it really does become a national imperative that we can get the port of baltimore up and going again. and the support we are seeing is not because anyone is trying to do maryland a favor. the national economy relies on the port of baltimore being up and running. shannon: a two-part question getting the port open and running at least operational at some point any idea on time and for that? much more long term for getting the bridge rebuilt. >> it is. the whole operation is remarkably complex operation. this is pretty unprecedented. different than what we saw from tampa. different than what we saw from minneapolis and the bridge collapsed because in the situation we have a ship, and a vessel nearly the size of the eiffel tower that is now stuck because the key bridge which is

three -- 4000 tons of steel is sitting on top of it. inside the water you have de debris. inside the water you have a wreckage. and you have a channel that is clogs because the ship is still sitting there. this is a remarkably complex operation. we know this will be a long road to recovery but we know we have to move with safety and we have to move with speed in order to get our commercial while going again. shannon: governor i'm glad you mention first responders. we know people around the clock since this has happened in the middle of the night have been working for they are brave souls we are indebted to them and to you and others who are working to write the situation, governor thank you. >> thank you and god bless you happy easter. shannon: youtube a rejoining a sound gop senator rick scott of florida pretender scott welcome back to "fox news sunday." >> happy easter it is a special day for christians. shannon: it absolutely is. wheat by the way have a statement from the white house on that will get to that a little bit later in the show there has been some controversy you may have heard. i want to start here with the

bridge and us talking with governor moore. there is talk some of this will have to come to a funding package and congress were you guys are fighting over a lot of things. do you see that moving? >> first off my heart goes up out to everyone who lost their life and i hope they found the bodies i feel sorry for those families is going to take a lot of work. this should be an issue we all come together and forcing the bite administration place politics i still have florida farmers from a hurricane here and a half ago not getting double relief. the federal government as a partner. they need to be a partner but we need to stop playing politics that's exactly with the buy demonstration is done. shannon: speaking of politics years fresh back from a trip to israel the bite administration has publicly and privately created distance when it comes to help fill some of the current administration there in israel the vice president days ago was asked about consequences if

israel moves into rauf up with h the planned ground invasion pretty here's what she said. >> he ruling out there be consequences from the united states? >> i am ruling out nothing. >> what he think this consequences are? how is that public talk that position going over with israeli leaders? >> it is not going over well. and met with netanyahu and the foreign defense minister they know they have to go to destroy hamas. they have to destroy hamas for the neat america support but they are going to go in to profit to get rid of hamas whether the u.s. supports them or not. i do not understand it we sell the american hostages i met with families there american hostage families with one i'd been to 2019 were over 60 jews were killed just because they are jews, kids. people are raped they are shot at point blank, they are burned

alive approach a musical festival work people killed because they were jews. there's over 40 hostages per the idf soldiers. they need american support. here's my take away. number one, they need and deserve american support. they have to go into rafah to destroy hamas to pray the need to be held accountable for to the number 3a randy's be held accountable. and then we all have to do everything we can to support them. i am going to work hard to get these hostages home. think the bite administration, the democrats need to change their tune they voting is israel aid. america did not even stand up for israel at that un resolution. this is disgusting with the buy demonstration is doing. support israel that got to kill hamas. they will never get their country back. shannon: at the same time there's numerous reports that there are billions more and weapons, bombs, fighter jets are flowing to israel from the bite

administration. is this a matter in your estimation publicly talking tough but privately the u.s. is giving ears or what they need and us despite pressure from the left. >> this is a long fight. there is going to be a time will they will need more weapons. there has been prior weapons packages that's given israel aid there's going to need to be more aid given to destroy hamas and by the way we have got to focus on destroying hamas we've got to focus on what are we doing to get these hostages out? why isn't the bite administration doing anything to hold qatar accountable for us going on over here? >> this is from richard goldberg is a former trump administration security official. he says there has long been a need for a moment of choosing where qatar has to decide they are eight u.s. ally not the modern-day swiss banker to the nazis who were going to play all sides. take from the u.s. strategic

economic benefits and then provide strategic and economic benefits to the enemies of the united states at the same time. what more do you think the said ministration should or could be doing with regards to qatar? >> the need to put everything on the table but why do we have a military base when they are hosting that leaders of hamas? they could, by themselves qatar could tell hamas you'll be leaving the country unless these hostages are released today but guess what, those hostages would be released today. qatar does not want to do that they do not want to lose their military base but i do not get it how do you have a military base in the same place where your enemy is being hosted by the government? how can we do that? that does not make any sense to me. they are holding american hostages. i was the bite administration to start talking about the fact we have american families have been held hostage and gossip by hamas

we have israeli families. whwhat is biden doing to get the out question rick stop talking about -- stop criticizing the netanyahu administration does biden went to war? has he fought in a war? no. what is his background doing this how does he know better how to go into rafah and get rid of hamas and makes you mad when you herethis stuff. shannon: i want to talk about the. using humanitarian help and to because of the troops are supposed to help set up run it but not step foot into gods of the idf apparently is going to expend that resource to create a security bubble there. there are people on both sides of the bible that are growing increasingly worried that u.s. troops are going to be endangered by the operation or be pulled into something more broadly, what is your take? >> first idf is doing everything they can to protect civilians who is not? hamas. i do not want american soldiers at risk. let's not fair to american

soldiers we have asked we have a letter to the white house tell us what your plan is to make sure americans men and women are not put at risk for it we watch what happened with afghanistan with the withdrawal we lost 13 servicemen and women for this administration does not need to have a plan for anything because it doesn't we have not heard with their plan is to do this. but i know that leadership in israel and the idf is doing everything it can to protect civilians and who is not is hamas. swiss et cetera scott thank you for sharing your insights were just getting back from that trip we appreciate your time. >> thank you happy easter. joining us now california democratic congressman ro khanna. welcome back to "fox news sunday." >> thank you, happy easter to everyone. >> thank you very much. let sort of polling on foreign policy where we are having the discussion about israel among other things. brenda pull out this week chosen people asked about foreign policy to give an 11-point edge

to president trump over president biden. specifically we asked about israel and hamas a few weeks ago there w is a 65% disapproval rating for president biden. what do you make of that? americans do not think he is managing this well. >> people realize there is a crisis. they see images of people dying and they want the war to end. they went israel to be secure they also want palestinian lives livestock to be lost. once the work comes to an end under the president's leadership his numbers will improve purchase like as numbers bounce back on the economy and the bloomberg poll he has closed the gap a lot of the swing states. shannon: will talk about the economy and a second but i want to talk about that un security council resolution this week. we did not act to veto it or stop at that did not go over well with a lot of folks here's former secretary of state mike pompeo and how that is playing worldwide. >> not only will hamas be happy with the abstention the iranian terrorists will be happy. the folks who underwrote and

train the people who committed the barbarity's of october 7, the russians will be happy the chinese communist party will be happy a over friends around the world will see the analyte walked away from its friends in his time of struggle. shannon: is that a message we want to be sending? next i respectfully disagree his secretary pompeo. fourteen countries in the world and the security council that have been calling for a cease-fire and the immediate release of all hostages we have been the only country in the past i was vetoing it was hurting our ability to build the multilateral coalitions we need to stand up to putin to stand up to sheeting being because we were isolating ourselves from alleys we need. it is a philosophical difference but pompeo believes american gay and go it alone president biden believes in building alliances to stand up to putin and xi jinping. >> my understanding on the latest resolution it was calling for immediate cease-fire but not conditioned on getting the hostages out immediately. i know this or ongoing conversations with think they are continuing in cairo over the

next few days too. you mention the economy got pulling on that as well. new data showing the people are asked are you better off financially than you were four years ago a majority, 52% say they are worse off 26% say about the same only one in five think they are better off now than they were under president trump. that includes 86% of independents who report they think the economy is negative. you need them to win in the fall. >> look, this country went through covid. i think that had a huge huge impact. we're still recovering from it. the question is what is a choice? here's a present biden wants to be created 15 million new jobs he wants to bring back manufacturing party was to raise wages for folks at. what's the lower the cost of prescription drugs. president trump had four years what he do? corporate tax cuts many people benefited from it in silicon valley, in my district. the question is where his economic vision of this country should go? i believe investing in the working class there is no doubt people are hurting because were

still recovering from covid but president biden has a better economic vision. shannon: why do the polls have the opposite question are quite remarkable give the edge of over president trump they are doing better under him and prefer him to handle things like the economy and inflation. >> i think of many people think four years ago was prior to covid and covid hurt folks. we had a huge increase in unemployment. we had a lot of supply chains get interrupted. president biden has stared us out of that low points he hasn't done it by investing in infrastructure fate by creating 50 million new jobs. lowering prescription drug costs. building infrastructure the point though is elections are about the future. what is president trump's economic agenda? as i understand its massive tax cuts for the very wealthy. present biden's economic agenda is a race for the working class i think people will think president biden's policies will be better. shannon: we have the optics in new york to events a huge

fundraiser for president obama and clinton. a lot of star-studded folks at radio city music hall raise more than $26 million is what campaigns have to do these days. across town at pr president trus at the wake for about nypd soldier someone who is not a fan of president trump bill kristol tweeted about unfortunate day for the democrats. fancy fundraiser in the midst of chaotic left wing street protests. looks like limousine liberalism plus the breakdown of law and order for trumpets has the wake of a slain nypd police officer in long island. david axelrod a longtime strategist and democratic official says not wrong. he agrees the optics and that were tough. you think president biden should have made time for both events? >> my heart goes out to the slain police officer family and his sacrifice for the community and the country. i do not want to in any way diminish that. president biden's event with president clinton and president

obama was about unifying the democratic party showing this democratic party is going to be energized and inspired and is going to be prepared to win 2024. of course the president should convey his condolences to that family. i am sure he will. >> congressman very quickly to forgo the house will be back soon the speaker is under threat to vacate the chair. would you join other democrats in saving him? or allowed to fall apart? >> i would consider it under two positions but one to get the eight into ukraine so we stand up to putin and to let sit $600 million to rebuild the bridge in baltimore part i read somewhere is going to take three years or four years china would do it in three months. let's get the steel let's get the permitting, let's get the fighting a show american can still do things big things when there is a crisis but let's have a timeline of six months to do it. speaker johnson does ukraine funding in the bridge and i'm open to it. shannon: as suspect of the democrats may join at congress

and th thank you for your time s good to see it. >> thank you. thank you. >> coming at major legal cases with direct impact on campaign 2024 involving far president trump and hunter biden. our legal panel joins us to talk about who had the comfort we can court and what comes next. rotein with 30 grams of protein! those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks. -ugh. -here, i'll take that. woo hoo! ensure max protein, 30 grams protein, 1 gram sugar, 25 vitamins and minerals. and a new fiber blend with a prebiotic. (♪)

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congress for his father the present beat before an impeachment inquiry. eight lucas appeared. >> happy easter. former president donald trump are preparing for's upcoming legal battles. >> i don't how you can have a trial in the middle of an election. again this is a biden. >> former president faces a number of court dates before election day. on april 15 the stormy daniels hush money trail begins. the judge has issued a gag order to restrict trump from making any statements about the former adult film star or anyone else involved with the case. special counsel jack smith classified documents trial faces a delay. the supreme court is also expected to make a decision in the coming weeks on whether or not trumps immunity claim is

valid. last week tru trumps lawyers ard fulton county d.a. danny will seems to dismiss her election interference case against a former president per. >> nothing alleged factually against president trump that is not political speech. he is not being prosecuted for lying face being prosecuted for lying to the government. >> in l.a. lawyers for hunter biden urge a federal judge last week to dismiss the nine tax charges against him. the judge's decision is expected by april 17. the case could go to trial in june. house oversight committee chairman james comer invited president biden to testify in the upcoming impeachment inquiry. white house spokesman left off the invitation. what's okay lucas of tomlinson alive at the white house thank you. time for our legal panel george washington university law professor fox news contributor jonathan turley but former principal deputy assistant attorney general tom dupree always good to see both of you. thanks for coming in. let's start with this invitation

from house oversight share james comer to the president invite you to participate in a public hearing in which you will be afforded the opportunity to explain under oath your involvement with the sources of income and means. the odds are present ever shows up to this invitation? >> zero. i do not go too far out on a limb to answer this if there is no way president biden is ever going to come and testify publicly on these issues. there is historic precedent, presence have come and testify before commerce i do not think this president will do this i certainly do not think this president will do this at this point in time. the present is what do they do next question request the next move are there more witnesses they can call? guess is they will also send a criminal justice department which i will also protect predictmerrick garland will pute back burner and never get to pick what you don't think they'll be action on that? >> to the point of why that the impeachment inquiry is winding down, what is happening there.

said this in a posting to x. coburn is 20 plus witnesses have testified potus did nothing wrong. they note hundreds of thousands of pages of records he has received have refuted his false allegations. this is a sad stunt at the end of a debt impeachment. call it a day, pal. >> i thought was quite shocking to see the level of taunting of the house. this was important things congress and the president could be involved in. an impeachment incorporate when i testified in the biden impeachment hearing i noted they might be tripping some wires here. this is what cap the nixon white house in trouble as the white house counsel and other offices got involved in the narrative. there is serious questions here but they are 10 questions presented per he does not appear to answer them. the president stands contradicted he clearly lied when he said he had no knowledge of his son's business dealings but is also clearly aware of influence peddling scheme and

was the focus of it. but the democrats have done successfully is create this false narrative he has to receive money directly for this to be corruption or bribery. federal courts have rejected that they have said repeatedly money going to family members is corruption, it can be crimes like bribery. but are they going to answer these questions? no he'd rather drink molten lead and answer any one of these questions. should he? of course he should he stands contradicted the public has a right to know. >> all of us his attorneys would tell not to answer any of us questions and probably grab that. meanwhile his son is facing tax and gun charges he's got a lot on his legal plate as well. his team was in los angeles arguing he is now being persecuted because of political aims. los angeles times reported it this way biden's legal team contended intense political pressure from republican lawmakers and former president trump had improperly influence the case.

lead to the collapse of a plea deal for biden to prompted prosecutors to up the ante and secure it far more serious indictments in both delaware and los angeles. hunter's team said they are the victims of politics with the foe d.o.j. pickwick this is a ridiculous argument th there's o way under this federal judge is going to throw out tax charges against hunter biden. behind-the-scenes hunter biden was getting favored treatment not the reverse. i don't think there's any way this judge abides hunter biden's arguments. i think it is likely the judge is going to allow this case to proceed. he is going to move quickly in scheandscheduling a trial date y expect we will see hunter biden stand at trial in california on the text charges this summer. shannon: he could be facing those into trials of this summer at the same time we are doing conventions and campaigning at all that stuff. before that we get to the hush money case in new york for former president trump. there is a gag order now. this is what the judge set apart

the ap reporting from his order given the eve of trial is upon us it is without question the eminence he of the risk of harm is paramount to the judge wrote a four page decision with the prosecution's request what they deemed narrowly tailored gag order. jonathan is it narrow? will it survive? >> it's not i've been a critic of gag orders for decades for they do run a foul of free speech. this is like nothing we have ever seen before by these prosecutors and judges the prosecutors waited to bring these cases to shortly before the election for the judges are now pushing to have these trials right up to even through the election. and then you impose a gag order. it creates a perversity it because you have people like michael cohen who's going on the news every night attacking tr trump, arguing against his election. trump cannot under this gag order criticize michael cohen or stormy daniels. he cannot talk about the lead prosecutor from case to case

involving trump for this election is going to turn in a significant part on the weaponization on the legal system. trump is winning on that narrative. they do seep little influence in these cases. they are effectively gagging presidential candidate on one of the ch chief issues in the presidential election. i think there is a major constitutional problems with this. >> is similar to the argument we are down in georgia this week his attorney was arguing that what he was saying about the election and allegations of fraud was all political speech those indictments should never have been brought. at this political speech argument going to work? >> i think the political speech argument is going to have a lot of force. president trump undeniably as a first member right to speak about issues particular issues concerning a presidential election for his leading candidate. he is a constitutional right to defend himself. i agree with professor turley it is a very fine line for judge to walk to try to fashion a gag order that passes constitutional

scrutiny. because you have to get the former president the right to exercise his constitutional right too. at the same time it is not what witnesses being threatened. he disavowed his family being threatened but my guess he will probably draft in order that prevents those sorts of comments but it's got to leave the present to exercise his first memo speech rights. >> scotus would look harshly at this orders is currently written. you are in for a penny or pound you want to try a leading presidential candidate right for the presidential election? you have to have some recognition there is a political speech element here which is paramount i don't think the judge recognized that in this order. shannon: gentlemen we always enjoy picking your brains free thank you so much for letting us do that today. see you both. cap next brandon fox polls are out showing which presidential candidate the voters trust more to handle the major issues now facing america. our sunday panel in-house joins us after the break.

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attended easter service with queen kamil at st. george's chapel at windsor castle. the king has been public about his ongoing battle with cancer. his daughter not princess kate is also battling cancer staying home with the prince william and their children this easter weekend. it is time for sunday group host of fox news and media buzz howard kurtz the hilton national particle reporter julia manchester. deputy secretary of state former hilary clinton senior advisor philippe raines. and fox news contributor marc thiessen. which like to pronounce your name for us. >> philippe rain is. shannon: it's depew if you know my people say deputy, depree whatever park and going to call from now on. >> saas we are calling you. >> i've been called worse a. [laughter] even on the show at. [laughter] we are glad you're here but let's art this of got pregnant pulling out this week.

head-to-head match up if you had to vote today president trump has a five five-point lead over president biden. it is early does that hold? what is going to tighten obviously every election tightetitanswhen it comes to el. you've got joe biden is the most unpopular president and the history of presidential polling going all the way back to harry truman. he has just overtaken the man was a previous record holder was donald trump of was opponent in this race. you've got two candidates a lot of americans do not want to vote for but when that happens anybody could win. shannon: president obama put them down those as a concerned a huge fundraiser letting his star power to president biden this week. the "new york times" quoting an aide said mr. obama has always, that's a quote but always been worried about it by not lost the eight ad and he is prepared to seek it out alongside his former vice president in election they could come down to slim margins and handful of states. how worried are democrats?

>> we wish there was a bigger margin per this is tight as a tick as mark said this is going to get even tighter. president obama is probably no different than the rest of us we wish the election were tomorrow we wish we would win we could all have a sigh of relief. but it is hard to say. there are two people in the world and understand what it is like to run for reelection as democrats. bill clinton and barack obama. they are resources they happen to also be friends of these men they've known each other for decades. i think they have insights that can be shared and hopefully for the better. i think joe biden wants them. shannon: there is worry on the gop site is a ticket as well put ap reporting six months before the first or late votes are cast in the general election between trump and abide in trump's or publican party has literal general election infrastructure to speak of. the disparity with the biting campaign is stark. >> is stark and it comes at a time when you have the biting campaign fund raising and having these really incredible

fundraising numbers, to be honest where in campaigning, going to swing states where as s donald trump has essentially been stuck at the courthouse for the most part. that works in a republican primary and did work in the republican primary that galvanized a lot of his support even though he was still the front runner. but i am curious to see how this plays in a general election. i do not know with a lot of independent swing voters are looking at this and wanting to hear about trumps legal issues. they want to hear about the kitchen table issues for the economy, the situation of the southern border, crime it. if trump is able to do both deal with his legal issues and campaign maybe that's a different story. ththere's red flags on both sids and this is a red flag. shannon: let's talk about the economy. how weak, you are an expert in how people message use optics and all the signs out there, xes says this is biden and the democrats of mostly ditch the word like they have stopped using it.

you saw the poll earlier better off than you were five years only one in five said that they were, four years ago. to independence to your .86% of independents rate economic conditions in negatively. will there be more of a messaging change question or. >> there better be because it did not work very well as a slogan. if you look at people's anxiety echoed through a bunch of statistics and say the economy is doing pretty well, low unemployment but people feel anxious. one of the reasons is housing cost of sword, mortgage rates are up they can't afford to buy a home. they are feeling very troubled about the future. also it is great barack obama and bill clinton help biden raised $25 million that's a lot of money they made a huge blender because it not provide any sound for tv. there is no sound. shannon: i would have loved more than that for you have two minutes to hear from obama election from clinton. they do it at the white house.

secondly huge economic advantage financial advantage i should say for the president. i am reminded 2016 hilary clinton outspent donald trump by 10 -- one and he still want it's about the message and everybody knows these two candidates by don't think there's many mines left to be changed. shannon: here is a question our public look at this week the third party spoiler is a difference for them because we did polling that included rfk junior, cornell west he picked his vp this week. kennedy did. and that polling trump is still up by five points for a political asked the question people agree rfk junior as a spell that they do not agree on whose campaign candidacy is winning. >> is an excuse the democrats are using their only going to lose because of the third-party candidate involved with the reason joe biden is losing, the reason why we held an election today donald trump would be elected president. if you understand it's one statistic. over joe biden's presidency americans about from the highest

levels of personal savings to the highest levels of personal debt ever recorded in american history. joe biden became president at $1.7 trillion in personal savings. they have the highest level of personal crab. write a card that has gone over $1 trillion for the first time that gone from having their bank account flush and maxing out the credit cards and buy the interest rates are so high they cannot get behind -- they cannot pay off their credit cards they are paying 30% interest on these things. this is white the economy is and why that rate the economy so poorly as they're stuck in the snap to correct something tells me philippe is going to have something to say about that. during the commercial and after this break because coming up next to a brand-new caravan of thousands of migrants is reportedly at make its way through the mexico heading to el paso's brenda polling shows growing trouble for the president on that issue. immigration and border security. ♪ with schwab investing themes™, it's easy to invest in ideas you believe in. spot a trend in electric vehicles?

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[cheering] shannon: and migrant caravan 2000 strong living north through mexico to the u.s. southern border reportedly on its way to el paso, texas we are back now with the panel. how late, he took the optics and messaging this is not another headache the white house once a gaelic. >> you are not dealing with it well this is been a disaster for three years or the biden menstruation. they thought there was a leak. taking taking executive actionsn specified executive action gives the porous border. he never followed up or i do not and has got the power of the presidency even if it got tied up in the courts a good show he's doing something. something a challenger cannot do. it's just a republican issue or conservative issue many big city mayors, new york, chicago also worried about this.

i think it is probably the biggest single vulnerability of his age the president faces. shannon: i get a sense from the white house they build executive action from the president would take pressure off congress in some way. i think they want to hold it back so they can get a deal there. i do not know any of us think that deals going to happen. a little bit more polling i notw what philippe wants to talk about this. who would do a better job at immigration or polling this week? i've got to tell you f for years when the bits of the presidential election biden had an eight-point advantage. it's out 18-point advantage for trump. >> it is a reflection on the incumbent whatever name was in office now would be the one being criticized because there are three things on immigration. one it is horrible, it's broken it's untenable. i'm not going to pretend otherwise democrats should not pretend otherwise and i don't think the white house and the president does. ttwo there's plenty of blame to go around but threet this is been going on for 25 years in terms of 12 years of republicans, 12 years for. >> hold on hold on hold on.

[laughter] i am outnumbered. [laughter] shannon: at the different show. >> it was not fixed the day donald trump took office it wasn't did not break on the date joe biden did. third is worm going to get partisan you can really jump on me. >> i am ready for. >> what party decided only in feandfederate not even two monto to vote down the most comprehensive immigration reform in years? that would put more people on the border put more law enforcement, no more agents more the republican house said no. today they won as a political cudgel for example the numbers you're seeing. shannon: they have objections to the substance of the bill. practice called compromise. >> the law would have given the president the authority to close the border. shannon: he has that authority now but he does have a truck versus a why the president has unlimited authority to keep at

any entity wants to keep out. joe biden has the same laws on the books at donald trump. and barack obama had when barack obama was the deported in chief who said all that legal immigrants home and the left was angry but he broke on the record for border encounters every single year for three years running. this is a biden problem. and i will tell you philippe but i do not understand maybe you can explain to me is you guys know, you know personally you're with hilary clinton in 2016 that donald trump are of the issue of illegal immigration to the white house in 2016. why with the democrats having seen that happen and take back the white house turned around and unleash the worst border crisis in american history? and think that's not going to help donald trump reit win the presidency? listen to what you just said there is no reason why they would do that unless they are not of sound mind and body. which shows you. question at the nail on the h head. [laughter] >> the problem you cannot just snap your fingers and fix this. you do need added authorities. >> i want to make sure it's been

bubbling out there at the last 48 hours for the white house is recognizing today the president's transgender day of visibility. happens every march the 31st it falls on easter this year the proclamation was issued on good friday a lot people upset about that and suiting caitlyn jenner puts us on xm discussed her joe biden has declared the most holy of holy days a self-proclaimed devout catholic, as transgender day of visibility dealing thing you should be declaring on this day is he is risen. now we have a statement out this morning from the white house on easter the president saying joel and i send our warmest wishes to christians around the world celebrate easter sunday, easter reminds us of the power of hope and the promise of christ's resurrection it goes on from there. this is got a lot of attention. >> 's got a lot of attention we've talked about this before the timing of this, with the spelling on easter obviously very religious holiday, definitely gives religious conservatives definitely some material to work with going after the president on this.

but at the same time you are saying the president walked this very fine line of wanting to obviously acknowledge easter. but at the same 10 there's a lot of partake people particularly on the left whose feel strongly about recognizing the transgender community, transgender day of visibility. if we were not to recognize this, that could lead to backlash. >> the fact president biden is a catholic church going man the idea of desecrate is a trump campaign is charging he has no control of it. it's always been march 31 could they have skipped the proclamation? probably but to some extent a lot of the coverages leaving out the fact. >> twitter feed this morning nothing about easter but on transgender day of visibility the biden/harris administration are six or an acreage and contribution of transgender americans. abide is a catholic president parties also the president who just sent his vice president to the beat verse vice president in history to visit an abortion clinic with democrat position used to be abortion should be safe, legal, rare as a necessary

evil. now this is a catholic president whose administration celebrates abortion. it's in the context of these anti-christian policies of why people are so angry. >> it's hard to see how selling bibles a celebrate christian values. it is not joe biden i'm taking a shot at. shannon: panel that's a good place to leave it. [laughter] up next, best-selling novels head to the big screen. a movie years in the making that happen to parallel the very current debate over unused idf embryos. karen kingsbury joins us next. i brought in ensure max protein with 30 grams of protein! those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks. -ugh. -here, i'll take that. woo hoo! ensure max protein, 30 grams protein, 1 gram sugar, 25 vitamins and minerals. and a new fiber blend with a prebiotic. (♪) i'm jonathan lawson, here to tell you about life insurance through the colonial penn program. if you're age 50 to 85 and looking to buy life insurance on a fixed budget,

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♪ shannon: karen kingsbury e is one of the most successful story materials in the cunninger more than 25 million copies of her books are in print including multiple number one new york times' bestsellers. she decided years ago to pour her life savings into pollution a film that hit theaters tuesday and now happens to feel more timely and complex than ever. the debate over unused ivf. by owes. the adaptation of her book, someone like you, has a broader message of hope. it's this weak's sunday special. this topic of a couple that has used ivf to help them get pregnant, they have their daughter can. i won't give away too much, but the mother is sick, her body cannot take another pregnancy, but they don't want to destroy

the embryos they have left k and that is in the middle of a nationwide if not worldwide conversation right now, and you tackle that topic. >> yeah. you know, it's something i've never seen in movies or books before. i was actually at a speaking event, and i ran into a woman with three kids who were triplets, and she said, yeah, my little babies were all adopted from embryos, they were e embryos, and i had no idea that was a thing and that there's more than half a million embryos in deep preservation, on ice, awaiting adoption today. so that kind of was the beginning of this idea that, you know, science has raised questions that only god can answer. and it began this story in my heart that became a love story that was irresistible, still one of my favorite stories i've ever told. shannon: you've sold millions and millions of books, your fans are around a dent. i've met many of them -- ardent. they love you and they feel your heart as you pour into these stories, and that's led you to this place where you decided to take control of your story because your stories have been

made into tv shows, they've been made into movie, they've been very successful, but this time your family decided you would self-fund, you would take control of this movie. it's one of the ways we see people getting very creative, going around the traditional hollywood studio system. why'd you do it and how much of a risk does it feel like? >> financially it was an entire risk. of it was a total risk and our financial planner said, you're crazy, like, get an investor. try to get a studio. but there was this issue of control where i wanted to tell the story i wanted to tell it. [background sounds] >> london? >> seven ising ripples through all of time. >> i wanted to cast it and find the location. and and the only way you can do that is if you pay for it. so we really weren't -- no studio wanted to support it anyway, they just were like, oh, we'd have to take a risk on romance, but once we made the decision, we were all in. and i truly feel like it was the greatest answer to prayer that god brought with us the most

talented crew and cast that we could possibly possibly have. we filmed it in nashville so, you know, it's just like a -- it's truly a miracle. shannon: and there are really difficult conversations and family dynamics, things that all of us can relate to in one way or another. >> you know, i still have questions about all of it, right? >> why don't you can ask me? if. ♪ >> maybe later. >> all right. i'm going to hold you to it. >> okay. shannon: what kind of conversations do you hope the movie will spark? what do you hope to accomplish with it? >> i think i can sum it up with hope. easter sunday is a day of hope, and this movie will bring that hope into the next week and the weeks and weeks that follow. i hope for months it'll stay in theaters, and i a really believe seeing a love story like someone like you on the big screen is going to be an experience for people which is what we used to get in theaters. when they come out even though

something might be divided in their family, they might be ready to make that phone call, write the letter or let it go and realize, hey, you know, if you could maybe turn your eyes upward, you're going to be okay. shannon: yeah. well, hope is something we all need in abundant supply. the movie's out tuesday. karen, thank you so much for joining us today. good to have you. >> thank you, shannon. shannon: and thank all of you for joining us on this easter sunday. for those who celebrate, a blessed day to you. we'll see you back here next "fox news sunday." ♪ muck ♪ ♪ ♪