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♪ ♪ >> hello, everyone this is "outnumbered." i am kayleigh is that it's for president biden, i am trying to get them into a debate.

>> kay and there they are an american tradition. but now since donald trump says he is eager to debate by debate died in the liberal media assembly doubting them. they said that the preoccupation

with debate in joe biden which is a new level donald trump is desperate to participate in presidential a rally and taunted president biden for not having a debate. >> 's what a surprise it gets harder and harder and you talked about this being an american tradition. so a lot of times when these things come up and of course i

lasted -- google debate and democracy. betsy rickles. >> harris: wow, even democrats today say he looks weak for how he is handling things.

that is particularly prickly for him. let me say this, neither man really put themselves in the best place to argue this. neither one of them debated going into the primary season. and then at the front of the primary season they both apparently said no. they underestimated robert f. kennedy jr. and probably should have debated him before the world realized that wow, that really mattered. so, this is a problem for both. i find it funny when donald trump does that, especially with nancy pelosi, do we remember that? the empty chair. it shows whether or not you are

part of the conversation. but if he is really serious about this he needs to get those dates on the calendar and say president biden is not showing up. saying look, i didn't debate going into primary season but this is necessary. and that is what the american people expect. and i think donald trump -- >> kayleigh: donald trump has said he would debate any time any place, but i want you to listen to what the campaign or the white house has

>> will not commit to a debate? it depends on his behavior. >> emily: to me these caveats, they show that they are afraid of something. if you are the president of the united states, and you invited to -- i don't like that word because it is the part of that fabric of democracy. we take those nice. if he is not mean to me or

tough. >> emily: right.and into the ring?

>> kennedy: looks like a coward and to his point he has the obligation to debate. voters need to have all the facts at hand and he has an obligation and he is a optical coverage here and he looks worse and worse the more the media covers for him. to harris' point, i wish we were seeing both these candidates debate in the primaries. i do think that the date makes you stronger candidate and if joe biden's, his propaganda losd

right now. they would literally be birthing kittens and newsrooms and that shows the utter hypocrisy with how they cover this president. >> one caveat is that it would be political malpractice to lead in anywhere near the

>> taxpayers and democrats are spending billions of dollars for migrants. from hotel rooms, free cell phones, debit cards, citizens and those residents who are fed up. and they want to know, what about us? we are live with more information madison?

>> that means thousands of dollars of benefits for migrants who chooses to call this place we want to show you how much these into some of our state. such as in new york, if you are my great you are guaranteed housing, hotel rooms that are $300 a night and then a number of those migrants are part of the 53 million dollar debit card pilot program. they are handed in $1,000 on a debit card each and every month.

on top of that we are talking an additional $1400. in los angeles migrants are given noncitizens so much so, that people are suing the city of chicago for the treatment of this crisis. i went to a lot of numbers and i cannot cover all the cities in this report. and my two

younger brothers were on the bus and got to new york city and this was a place with blight and crime and violence and nobody gave us anything we lived in one room, i remember waiting in the schoolyard for an they have given the illegals everything. this is a man who hated donald trump and his last time

he is going to vote for him now. this is so disheartening. we love people and we want to help people but a lot of dollars per home is present in the problem keeps going, the west coast is throwing money at populations without seeing any

suasion whatsoever and that issue in these residents and the underserved communities are getting nothing. how are people still voting for democrats who are running the states into the to be able to come here and work for yourself but your travel thousands of miles and you made it here, you are telling me people cannot work once they get here? and if they can't they deserve to.

but the handouts make immigration worse. it only makes the homeless populations explode because they do not need new houses they need the government's to get out of the way because there compounding all of these problems. >> elect racism any time they up these arguments they talk about the people of color who will bring one particular lawsuit in chicago that their state is feeling them because they are prioritizing others. >> harris: chicago is the epicenter for this. having had people on the faulkner focus who have talked about how they do not feel like they are treated like american citizens anymore.

for the first time, many of them are going to consider voting for someone other than a democrat. they are going to vote in their own interests is what i've been told. why did it take so long as my question? the answer has always been because we believe that they wanted to help us. this is the time for republicans to show up in black communities. invited or uninvited. hwe pay for these door steps by the way, but sometimes you have to go in into uncomfortable and nuanced and to reach the right person. such as when you go to church and the pastor says this is for somebody who wants to hear this.

it is time for republicans to do that. make their own way into these communities because democrats are sitting down. >> i have noticed this week a change in language from donald trump and how it talks about this. he is taking the immigration crisis and instead of using topline numbers years bringing it down to the level of the suburban mother and the senior citizens. he said that if you want to help joe biden off a cliff, that's what they said republicans would do when it comes to social security, if you want to help them off the cliff to find government benefit for illegals, then vote for joe biden. and when you move over to suburban women and says do you know why people are my side, i am the one who will keep them safe. so it is interesting to see the nominee take a huge crisis and bring it to the macro level is effective. >> a local town hall unfolded into chaos, as they demand that there may or resign. [chanting]

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>> have you seen this story? >> harris: these village members are losing it. they want the marathon, coining her the worst mirror ever.

they might not be wrong. people who live there are demanding that the mayor resign after being accused of embezzlement and retaliating against the sexual assault victim. the town hall erupted into complete chaos after the town hall doors were locked for a public meeting. she locked them out. we have a correspondent there right now. wow. >> she's accused of taking trips on the public time as you have mentioned and accused of pulling police officers off the patrol. accused of retaliating against employees who claimed sexual harassment, but the act that throat chaos came when mayor locked the public out of e village hall meeting. [chanting]

>> at that meeting, they were expected to face criticism that would veto her use of public funds. most of these people were locked out and they stood outside and protested. the village trustees supported the investigation walked out. the mayor dismissed the walkout as a stunt. >> they came here to do a political stunt which you have just seen. >> protesters are sitting on top of everything she is violating the openings meetings act. >> she is absolutely scared. >> why can't we have transparency? >> for her to lock us out is deplorable. in my 40 years of experience i have never seen anything like this in my life. >> a spokesperson for the village said access was restricted to protect our staff

due to the overwhelming threats and violence as a result of the misinformation portrayed by the media and internet bloggers who are using her as a means to generate revenue or click date. at the moment the village hall is closed off, if you want to do business you have to walk up through the front door and stand in a vestibule in a way for a security guard to let you in so you can go up to the window and do your business. >> harris: quickly affect check here, she has a couple of jobs in her annual us annually is north of $300,000 is that true? >> yes and the median income is $54,000. >> harris: wow. great reporting. charles? how did we get here? >> i was reading an article and someone said as soon as she took off she lost her mind.

there is that saying about power and how it corrupts. and she stepped in there and it's a shame for the small town in small village, the money that we are talking about that is amazing for what could be done with that. there is almost no words for something like that. >> harris: you could pay people their salaries. for what we have learned, there are people who are going without paychecks. she was not paying them. >> kayleigh: yes, she was making more than the governor. she is making this huge amount as mayor, but want want to know accountability and try to pass the referendum if she won the election she kept her salary and if she lost then whoever took over what have a reduced salary and then she mixed a probe and she was voted on unanimously. so she wants no accountability.

>> harris: kennedy, i feel like everything we are seeing this days, all of it is playing right into the hands of those people who produce reality tv. >> kennedy: it certainly isn't this is a fascinating episode, and made me miss george santos. but mission accomplished, everyone is talking about it and this is all she ever wanted. she wanted fame, she didn't want just the power but she realized that she could put her makeup artist and several others on the payroll as my assistant. she is doing exactly what she set out to do. >> harris: as charles has said, she has lost her mind. >> kayleigh: everyone who needs to hear this, illinois has amended their state law so you can call for a recall election

for any mayor. so they need to get on that and she will in due time have accountability for these allegations of fraud and all of this ridiculousness. i know you want the opposite, but i hope she does not get her show. >> she will get paid for it. >> i am saying that super mayor -- i love that. [laughter] >> harris: right? because she had to go -- coming up. americans tell fox digital they are worried about the future of the american dream you can get—- the good stuff — and you don't need a satellite dish? oh, i used to love doin' my business on those things! you're one sick pigeon. them dishes kept the rain off our beaks! we just have different priorities is all. satellite-free directv... never thought i'd see the day.

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>> we have the best economy in the world and we need to make it better. >> harris: the comparison is always the rest of the world. that was president biden bragging about the state of this economy. but despite what he says, americans are not buying it because they do not feel it. parents and grandparents spoke with fox news digital saying they are not optimistic about the future of the american dr dream. >> it is dying. it is unavailable. people have given up hope it entirely but a lot of people are doubtful. >> we can't afford the american dream, it's not something our kids can afford. >> it is too expensive. our grandkids cannot afford homes or do the things they both like to do. >> it is dead. it is hard to change where you are at in life these days. it is possible but extremely

difficult. >> we have lost our way, it is impossible for the younger generation to afford housing. it's so many things like iraq, and wages have remained stagnant. >> we are a class system at this point to where you start is where you end up. >> the american dream is compared to when rocky is on the road and he is beaten up on the rope. but he does get up and fights back so i'm hoping that's the case. >> there is opportunity in america, and i am a proud business owner building my dream. >> it is alive and well but you need to work for. >> putting their time and do their dirty work and that grind. and make your way out. >> harris: most people believe that most people not from that gathering of voices but the thing that stuck out to most it's like we are like a caste system, which means you do not rise. >> kennedy: the american

history is written by people who came to this country with nothing and charles is a incredible example of that. he shared the story of his mom and his brothers living in one room. and he is the richest man i know. [laughter] [laughter] >> kennedy: para sony people like that and we have to listen to them. what it took and what their struggle was and what they had to sacrifice it is still possible with the government and everything from housing to education to interest rates, but it is possible and achievable. >> harris: vote and your own interest, do not just do what people want them to do -- if you want things to change that to make change. >> kennedy: the comment that said it is still here but it's a lot harder than it was, that is how i feel. it is never dead, but under this

administration and these policies and regulations just choke those entrepreneurial dreams, and the inflation and money -- everything, it is so hard to succeed in this moment and improve anything. if you are not in the real estate industry or own a home or have a degree, there are so many things. i feel it every day and i know millions of others do, and it is not getting any easier. vote in your best interest and do not vote outside of your own interest. >> harris: we used to be a society where if you bought a home you brought one home. and you hope to give it to somebody in your legacy. maybe if you want a vacation home you go repair and then give the primary home to your kids. legacy of matter more than anything? >> charles: legacy is important.

but it's from people who did not have to work 25 years to get her down payment from the house. the moment that you have to work really, really hard, the younger generation does know that they are entrepreneurial but their time horizon -- you can't get a gold watch on the first day of work. they wanted, but it frustrates me, because we should make it easier for them. the other thing, president biden bragging about how great our economy is, my question is why do you want to change it? if capitalism is so great why do you want to change her? you see what is happening in europe, they cannot lift themselves up because they become giant borderless countries with magnificent welfare programs and you can get six week vacations but there is a traitor for that. name a great invention that has come up of europe. nothing all the magnificent innovation comes out of this country that changes the lives

of the people around the world positively. that's what people want to live here, president biden wants to change that. >> kayleigh: millennials had a hard run out of college. but gen z, being a young person in this economy, the median price of a home is $412,000, and then you try to get a mortgage and that interest rate is 7%. you cannot own the home in this country. >> charles: and then the grandparents might've paid 15%, but it is tough but do not grab up. i ma not happen overnight, but we need to control our own destiny as a society. >> harris: everybody gone? this is the one thing we all share. dreaming. okay, charles payne let's keep talking. he has a special edition of his making money show on april 24th

called unbreakable investor. charles, make me unbreakable. >> charles: it is going to be so amazing. wait until you see it. i did a own marsh to -- i am going to up things this time. and i'm a upbeat positive pe person. and what we are looking at over the next ten to 100 years is something we wanted in the 1800s. we grew from the upstart to the greatest country in the world. but during the time we had four great depressions and a civil war, certain things are going to happen in this country that will be painful but also opportunistic. and people are going to love this. >> harris: "unbreakable" investor, it is on wednesday april 24th. do not miss it. you can attend by going to eventbrite.com and search for charles payne.

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>> congress mike waltz and spokeswoman for the israel prime minister will be here to break it down and a briefing is coming up after a series of p poll's is showing president biden's underwater will you whie the verrazzano bridge is closed during the race. they are pushing back saying

that there 26.2-mile run will bring in hundreds of millions of dollars for new york's economy each year. the amount of increase revenue that the mta enjoys should be considered in any negotiation. however, they have yet to provide data on their claim of revenue loss. race officials estimate that the marathon generates $427 million for this city, just in 2019. it kennedy you triathletes, this marathon has been going over the bridge since 1996, whether they need all this money? maybe it's because of the illegal immigrants and everything else here. >> kennedy: they are trying to milk the club, and it is wrong

because they have $46 million in people who do not pay for subways and buses in this country or tolls on bridges. they just crackdown on 1% of that, that would make up for it. people already pay money to enter the race. anyone who has money knows that it changes their lives, but they also raise thousands of thousands of dollars for charities. on top of flying here and staying here and bringing their friends and family, this is a nonstarter. they have already offered to give the mta $20,000. so they are not trying to walk away scot-free these are bad negotiations. >> the governor announced historical records after the marathon and those people get paid but it doesn't factor in? >> no it doesn't affect the

red, $690 million -- and 46 million and dodging that money -- you should focus on crime and the simply by the way in enforcing those tolls on there you go. >> harris: this also encourages other races like avon for breast cancer. a few years ago when my art passed away we ran, it was 39.3i walked the second one but. it raced so much money for charities. if this is a slippery slope a whole lot of people are going to suffer. >> charles: is a despicable shakedown. how they did the logic getting

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seeing it, a total solar eclipse, will be amazing. if you want to see it, where will it happen? it will enter the united states somewhere around eagle pass, texas, on the southern border there, and sort of follow a curve up north and heading east across the u.s. until it will go right over niagara falls for instance an exit somewhere around maine. it will take a bout an hour in total. if you are underneath it where it is a total eclipse you love 3-4 minutes of that total eclipse time. it will be extraordinary and millions of people are expected to travel to the path of totality. that could create some traffic congestion, listen here. >> the event is going to be an exercise in congestion management. that is just to be expected. i want the traveling public to be aware of that. they will need to exercise patience and diligence, safety precautions.

>> now nasa will be doing the scientific stuff, it always does during these eclipses, they will be putting up 3wb57 jets for research purposes, those are so cool because they can fly 57,00r than a commercial aircraft flies obviously, they are launching three rockets before, during, and after as they continue to find out what sort of effects this can have that connect practical purposes for us here on earth, listen here to the deputy administrator. >> things are happening with their corona we don't fully understand and the eclipse gives us a unique opportunity to collect data that may give insights into the future of our star. >> extensive coverage throughout the day monday on fox news channel. i will be anchoring part of that coverage from indianapolis motor speedway with around 80,000 of my closest friends. kaylee? >> thank you very much, jon

jonathan. among the millions of travelers will be emily compagno you are and it copes aficionado? >> yes, partly but i just love them. i am a space and the sky geek. this is me with my family in argentina in 2019 when we went to see the total solar eclipse i have to share in 1996 we went to hawaii too, that moment of totality i burst into tears. it is incredible, it's overwhelming, and it is indescribable to see it and to be amongst all of the others who are loving it too is exciting so we will be there and with my fiance this weekend i'm excite. >> you have to wear classic apparently? >> and we have some for the couch that we will watch you watching that. kennedy and i were reminiscing because we are so young but our member the last total solar eclipse. it was 1979, it was a big deal we were writing about it in school do you remember? >> i remember very well i

remember my dad screaming at the sky. [laughter] it terrified me. >> if you are in the path of totality, experience a. don't worry about photographing it come get the glasses but feel the air temperature dropping, listen. >> i have a bet with my granddaughter saying i can do it without the glasses. >> don't try that. only and totality you can. the waxing and waning you can't. >> i will wear the glasses all day so i don't even know what's going on. speak out dell might catch our life special coverage of the ec, thank you all for joining us, dvr the show now, "america reports." >> are you staying here? >> we have an arrest happening right now. this is ice removal officers removing one of the migrants waters. >> no coordination with federal agents are allowed by law. >> in many cases you a