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>> everything started shaking, rumbling. >> it felt like the pavement was giving way under me and i didn't know what to think or what to do. neil: so many shock waves, so little time. we're not just talking the ones still rattling the east coast after that 4.8-magnitude earthquake, fears of scarier jolts in the middle east as iran promises counterattacks on israel for taking out a top iranian commander in syria earlier this week. the very same week president biden and israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu had that very frank, some would say in your face, phone call. the president make it clear are, either israel change the way it is waging this war or the u.s. might change the way it helps fund it. already signs this hour that benjamin netanyahu is opening up more safe passages for gaza aid, but could it prove too little, too late? we're going to hear from communications advisor john kirby, house armed services committee rank aing member adam smith, or senate foreign relations committee, well, chris

coons. remember him in and former israeli ambassador to the u.s., michael orrin. a lot of shaking, so let's get going. mug. ♪ ♪ neil: welcome, everybody, i'm neil cavuto. very happy to have you with. we don't know when and we really don't know where. i'm not talking about the latest aftershock activity on what could be coming here, but more some shocking developments halfway around the world maybe by iran over there. the latest from lucas tomlinson at the white house. lucas. >> reporter: good morning, neil. that's right, israeli and american forces in the middle east are on heightened alert today after iran vowed revenge for that israeli airstrike that killed numerous commanders in iran's quds force responsible for all international operations outside of iran. now, this comes after that phone call between president biden and israeli prime minister benjamin if net an a ya hue -- netanyahu. president biden wants a ceasefire immediately.

of the president spoke to reporters yesterday on his way to baltimore. >> reporter: did you threaten to stop military aid to israel? >> i asked him to do what they're doing. knox. [inaudible conversations] >> reporter: [inaudible] are you abandoning israel? >> [inaudible] >> reporter: white house spokesman john kirby was on your show late this week, neil, and explained the president's thinking. >> the president made it very clear to prime minister netanyahu that there's going to need to be some changes. too many civilian welcome backs have been killed. and if we don't see those changes, well, we're going to have to make some changes and decisions of our own. >> reporter: on monday night an israeli drone strike killed seven aid workers e including an american which sparked international outrage. israel investigated the strike in four days and released its

findings. it fired two senior officers and disciplined three others. the report took full responsibility saying it was a, quote, grave mistake stemming from a serious failure due to a mission identification, errors in discussion making and an attack contrary with standard operating procedures. now, the house, the republican-controlled house is planning to hold a vote to condemn pridingen for calling -- president biden for calling for that immediate ceasefire without calling for the release of hostage first. neil: so, lucas, maybe you can help clarify that position. maybe it's deliberately vague. if more average civilians were culled or, worse yet, aid workers were killed, are all bets off in terms of our aid a package or continuing support for israel? >> reporter: well, senator coons for the first time, neil, democrat, of course, from delaware said that he would like to see aid conditioned to israel not just about the killing of civilians, but if israeli forces launch this operation in rafah

which appears to be a red e line both for the white house and many democrats in congress. so that's where things go there. in terms of this alert worldwide, it is notable, neil, or just to go back to that for a second, that this was the a serious threat that it's being reported, people are wondering why isn't the state department putting out more of a worldwide threat or at least a threat alert for u.s. embassies and american citizens in the middle east. neil: that is a very good point. lucas, thank you very much. lucas tomlinson. with us now, adam smith, the house armed services committee ranking member. congressman, you might have if heard part of our discussion there, but i did talk to senator crest coons yesterday on this issue -- chris coons yesterday on this issue of whether support for israel is waning particularly among the democratic leaders. i want you to respond to this. this was chris coons yesterday. >> look, i would not abandon israel. i would not abandon the defense of israel against their. enemies in the region.

particularly in the face of an imminent strike by iran against israel -- neil: no, with all respect, sir, that's not what i ask. if they go into rafah and do this, would you say, all right, that's a game-changer? we told you not to do it and you did. >> i would be willing to put conditions on the delivery of military munitions for that ongoing campaign. i would not sever ties between the united states and israel. i wouldn't abandon israel, but i would begin to condition the munitions that we provide for an ongoing campaign in rafah. neil: congressman, let me ask you about that. do you share that view, that a if israel doesn't sort of dial things back, everything's on the table including aid? >> well, i don't share the view that we're going to cut israel off. you get into the issue of putting conditions on the military support, that gets really complicated. i think all of that misses the central point here.

the central point here is we want israel to change the way they are conducting this war. now, israel has had a very aggressive aapproach from october 7th forward, and it's understandable why they reacted that way with. it is not working to their advantage, and it is causing a devastating i humanitarian crisis in gaza right now. so our position is they need to change that. and i think the president's call for a ceasefire is a call for a temporary ceasefire mainly focused around that humanitarian concern. humanitarian aid's not getting in, aid a workers are vulnerable and as a consequence pulling back as we've seen most drastically in the world central kitchen strike. in order to get i humanitarian assistance in, you need that brief ceasefire and a change in policy. look, from the very start the israel was, like, we're going in. and they cite all kinds of examples of different wars against different groups where many civilians were killed. and i understand that argument.

but given what israel's trying to accomplish in gaza, that approach is not the right approach. and that's what president biden is communicating to israel right now. neil: but didn't he go further than that, congress congressman? there does seem to be a trend among some of your party colleagues -- i mentioned chris coons, but i could also mention senator tim kaine who says our current position toward israel is just not working. bernie sanders, a long critic e of9 the way benjamin netanyahu is conducting this the war, chuck assume or or saying an election should be held now, an unprecedented move for a u.s. senator recommend repping such for a sovereign nation -- recommending such for a sovereign nation. does me of that trouble you or the fact that hamas celebrates in this apparently in your face phone call that the president had with benjamin netanyahu? >> what really troubles me is that hamas is not being held accountable in this discussion.

and there's a wide range of opinions here. and, yeah, i don't want to link myself to other people's opinions. i want to say sort of where i'm coming from. i don't agree with not one more penny. israel faces profound threats from hezbollah, iran and others. if with we don't help them, their ability to deter those threats and stop the war from spreading will be significantly hindered. but as i said, israel's approach to the war right now in terms of the humanitarian crisis just isn't working. it's not working for them, and it's not working to get to a more peaceful resolution long term. but the other part of it is leaving hamas completely out of this conversation as the u.n. did, that doesn't help the cause of peace either. ma ma a -- hamas doesn't feel any pressure right now. the u.n. hasn't been able to bring themselves to condemn hamas not just for the october 7th attack, but for the way hamas is conducting this war; hiding behind --

neil: but, you know, hamas is winning this pr war to your point, sir, and hamas is the one that celebrated this phone call, and hamas is the one seeing, look, we've got the u.s. potentially turning on netanyahu. perception is everything in the world, as you know, and i read a lot of the foreign press. just this morning even in the financial times today talking about the administration taking an unprecedented move to step back from israel. are we stepping back, dialing back israel? if. >> we have not. and we are not. i mean, look, there's two separate things. let me agree with you on one point. i think as democrats or anybody talks about thissing you know, the u.n. globally to completely leave hamas out of the conversation is a major mistake. because what incentive does hamas have? lost in all of this the fact that israel, with the u.s. support and pressure, has put offers on the table for a ceasefire. repeateddedly over the course of the last, gosh, six weeks now. and hamas has turned down those

the offers for a ceasefire. so to not put pressure on hamas is to make it harder to get an end to this war. so i agree -- neil: but we haven't done that. we're not doing that. we're doing just the opposite. hamas delegation is heading to cairo right now on these ceasefire if talks. now, obviously the president, to his credit, is trying to urge the leaders of egypt and qatar to do their part in trying to influence hamas to do something, but hamas seems to be holding all the cards, and they started this whole thing. >> you know, i agree. we need to put more pressure on them. but the part that you have to -- neil: but again we're not, right? if we're not. and your point is taken -- >> i heard you. neil: we're not doing it. >> i heard you. i heard you and i agree with you with. but there's another part to in that we also need to get to, and that is the way israel is conducting the war in gaza the way from the very start -- i mean, remember, there were too many israeli officials from the very start saying, you know, no food, no water, no fuel, no medical supply froms. and they took a very extreme

position towards this. and we also need as the major support of israel and the world to say you need to change that. you cannot have a policy that completely ignores humanitarian the assistance in israel. now, they've changed that. they began to try to move, but they have not moved quickly enough, they have not allowed enough humanitarian assistance in. and clearly, within gaza they have not offered protection to the humanitarian workers who are trying to keep the civilian population alive. and president biden wouldn't be doing his job if he wasn't trying to get israel to change that. and i agree with you, hamas has been left out of this way too much. but you can't ignore the neat need for israel to change -- the need for israel to change the way they're conducting this war. neil: what was clearly the game-changer, congressmanman, this past week were those world central kitchen workers, seven of them or, getting killed. i do not mean to sound call how

or indifferent to any of that -- callous, but this happens in wartime. it's not right, it's not fair, it just is. but if that is the litmus test by which we might hold future aid to israel, isn't that very risky? >> well, look, i disagree with your pressments i disagree with somehow everything changed with world central kitchen. there was the concern and president biden was putting pressure, his over the top comment if came weeks ago. look, there has been concern about the way israel's been conducting this war from the if very start. and, yes, there's an enormous amount of pressure involved. you're absolutely right, in a war like this, these things are going to happen. but i can also tell you that there are the very specific things that israel could do differently that would make it less likely that this would happen and allows them to still conduct their military operations. their closing of so many corridors to allow humanitarian assistance in, their blocking assistance. i was at the rafah crossing on the egypt side about two,

three -- a month ago i guess it was now, and they routinely block aid from getting in for no clear apparent reason. they have of a policy and that's what happened in this case, you know, if you try to protect these aid a trucks as they go through, israel will not allow any armed guards to protect those trucks. if they see someone armed, they consider them a legitimate target. which means most of these aid trucks that are going in are being looted before they can get across the border. so these are policies that israel can change, still conducting the war, understanding the risks that cu you clearly laid out. so there are things israel can do different to say this isn't just war. i don't agree with that -- neil: all right. well, you can understand their reticence and the israelis' concern about a people who work like they're genuine aid workers and those who might not -- >> [inaudible] having this approach too. neil: well said, sir. i enjoyed having you on.

thank you very much. in the meantime, other developments in this country like the aftershock of those aftershocks and how people are preparing for the next shake-up. 40 plus million americans affected, but look at the bright side, all those aftershocks should be over with by the time of the eclipses which is close, which is monday, which is a big deal. after this. >> it felt like the pavement was giving way under me, and i didn't know what to think or what to do. it lasted like a good 20 seconds. it was very scary. if mbers, we get points toward mylowe's money for the things we want. oh, we want this. the all new mylowe's rewars loyalty program is her. download the app to joi, earn and save toda. maria and julio thought their life would never slow down. then one day, it finally did. you were made to find inner peace. we were made to track flight prices to paradise.

neil: all right, the aftershocks continuing even as recently as this morning in the tristate area, particularly new jersey. that seemed on the epicenter for a lot of this activity after that 4.8 historic magnitude earthquake in new jersey. obviously, it registered throughout the area. but the fact of the matter is more to come, and we're told it could last a couple of days. of rick reichmuth on all of that at the fox weather center. what are re-- we looking at?

rick: it's going to go with on for a while. they shouldn't be as strong. yesterday afternoon we had that aftershock that was a 4.0. so, certainly, a lot stronger than the other aftershocks have been like 2, 2.2. the original quake though at a 4.8 magnitude across areas of west jersey, about 45 miles just to the west of manhattan. and since then, there have been 26 aftershocks in total. all of them clusteredded around this exact same area which is what you expect to see. it's been 139 years since new york city or the greater new york city area has had anything like this, and new jersey -- this is, like, the strongest in about 240 years. so this is certainly a big event. people think, hey, why is this happening here? are there any fault lines? there actually are some fault lines in new jersey. the main one happening right along that fault line. it looks like although they're harder to detect across much of the eastern seaboard than on the western seaboard, at least exactly where those fault lines

are and to attribute any earthquake to a specific fault line. by the way, there are five fault lines that cut across manhattan as well. so these things can happen. when they do happen on the east coast, they're felt for a much larger area. this is an example of one from 2011, it was a 5.8 earthquake in central virginia, and look at that area that experienced the tremors from this, that felt it. then go out across parts of the wes, a similar sized strength -- west -- in california and just a small area had that impact. it's because the earth's crust is different. it's much more craggy and new across much of the west, it absorbs some of the waves and you don't feel it in as wide of an area as you do across the east. it was felt in 14 different state, neil, so this 4.8 having a big impact for a big population area rah. now we just sit there and wait to see if we feel any more of these aftershocks. neil: all right. thank you very much for that, rick. all right. so from what's rocking underground to some folks

looking to the sky on monday and that unusual event we're going to see, a total solar eclipse for millions who will see that. not all of the country, but a good many when the moon blocks the sun. max gorden in cleveland where with the sun will be completely covered on all of that. max is there9 with the latest. hey, max. >> reporter: hey, neil. well, hello from a frigid cleveland, ohio. temperatures in the 40s right now. things are going to warm up by clips day on monday when all eyes -- eclipse day on monday when all eyes will be in the sky. wert in the path of totality, but the big question right now is there we be able to see it here in cleveland. that's because there should be some cloud cover on eclipse day, so we're still unsure whether or not we're going to be seeing that total solar eclipse here. what won't be in question though is there's going to be a lot of people converging on cleveland for this event.

according to the city of cleveland are, between 140 and 200,000 people are going to be in town. every single sworn police officer if on the cleveland police force is going to be out making sure that people are going to be staying safe. there's going to be a lot of road closures, going to be the a lot of parking situations going on as far as making sure that the streets are going to be clear. the city officials are saying if you can, work from home because it is folk to be a busy day for downtown cleveland. there's going to be a lot of events going on. the rock and roll hall of fame, at the great lakes science center. and get this, the cleveland baseball team's home open err, the guardians, on monday as a well, 5:10 after totality. should be a big day here in cleveland. neil: can you imagine people -- i don't have time for the eclipse. get out of my wayful.

[laughter] that is wild. max, thank you. great as always, my friend. max if gordon on all of that. in the meantime, let's put this under the category of awkward timing. you had the u.s. attorney general going to chicago to talk about the latest efforts to address crime. only a few days after the worst and most violent weekend for crime in the windy city. again, awkward.

neil: what's that expression, read the room or at least the area? when the attorney general of the united states stopped in chicago to talk about progress on crime only days after the worst weekend for crime in the windy city shall we just say, not

ideal? garrett tenney has more from chicago on that. >> reporter: neil, the justice department is doubling up down on its strategy to take a more holistic approach to addressing violent crime by investing $275 million into community-based programs that work to prevent crime through intervention and prevention like counseling, job training and having folks from bad a neighborhoods working as peacemakers before fights turn deadly. there's a lot of debate over how effective those kinds of programs really are, but this week attorney general her you can e garland pointed to the nationwide drop in homicides from the last couple of years as proof that the biden administration's efforts are, in fact, working. >> the justice department is committed to continuing to make historic investments in community violence intervention, and i am personally committed to making sure that those of you in this room and our partners across the country who are protecting our communities get

the support you need and deserve. >> reporter: that drop in homicides from some of the highest levels we've seen in decades ignores the larger epidemic of violent crime that continues to plague cities across the country. in atlanta violent crime is up 19% compared to four years ago before the crime spike that came in 2020. minneapolis is up 35%. and oakland is up 17. the national fraternal order of police says if the biden administration was really serious about addressing violent crime, they'd the instead use the scheduled funding to first address the nationwide shortage of police officers. >> all of this extra money being forced on programs that aren't designed to actually make our communities safer is a complete waste. in austin they're down 600 officers. in washington, d.c. they're down anywhere from 7-800 officers. in seattle they're down 700 officers. in houston alone we're down anywhere from 1,000 officers of what we need in order to fill the call sol up yule. so this is -- volume.

this is an epidemic the likes of which i've never seen in my 19 years of law enforcement. >> the -- chicago's deadliest weekend of the year four months ahead of the democratic national convention coming to town. neil? if. neil: garrett, thank you very much for that. garrett tenney in chicago. jenna if -- gianno caldwell joins us, you know the tragic story of him losing his brother two years ago a, but gianno has devoted his life of to also trying to help people from ever having to deal with that. he'll be testifying at that a ways and means welfare subcommittee field hearing in chicago on that very issue, it's going to take up the dignity of work and how that can avoid some of the same problems that bedevil a host of cities across the country of gianno,, very good having you. what do you make of the crime situation not getting better? if anything, it's getting worse. >> you know, neil, it really upsets me every time i hear the sound of from a.g. garland

saying, oh, the guiden administration if -- the biden administration policies are reducing crime across the country. we know that is an absolute lie, an absolute lie from the attorney general. and as someone who's had to deal with this issue, it'll be almost two years since hi me brother was murdered june 24th, 2022, and having known that in the city of chicago just in march there was a 28% increase in homicides tying almost number two for the most homicides in any given month over the last decade. when you look at the fact that arrests have declined by 33% since 2013, when you think about the fact that just last month in march there was 190 people shot, this is insanity on steroids! there's no other way to look at it. and the fact that people like my brother, innocent kids who are being murdered throughout the city of chicago every year, and they're coming up during an election year to say, hey, we're

doing something about it, when the biden administration says there's no crime crisis in america, there's nothing going on, there's nothing to see here, now when they see the polling showing that, hey, this can have an impact on your re-election, all of a sudden they become interested in this issue. people like my family and other victims across the country are upset with the inaction that we've seen from the administration and our local elected officials who have, unfortunately, made things worse with with their tragedy of policy like the safety act, for example, in the city of chicago, the state of illinois. it creates a cashless bail reality for the entire state. we are upset, we're fed up and we need to see changes. and i think that change starts at the top, at the white house. neil: it's not happening yet, particularly in the city where they just seem to have all rights and mayors come and go d prosecutors and mayors come and go, and chicago's going to be hosting the democratic national convention this summer. of not the most ideal or promising of backdrops. what do you think of that? if. >> well or, i know that they're going to do everything they can

to try to lock it down and secure it as much as possible, keep people away because they know there's going to be a number of variables. one, you have the everyday crime that exists in chicago where you can be across the street from city hall and there'll be a shootout. i'm talking city the hall. [laughter] this is something that you would never expect in a city like this, but this is what's going on. so they're going to have to deal with that, or they're going to have to deal with the protesters on the israeli-palestinian conflict, or hamas i should say. they're going to have to deal with a number of things. but the facts are the facts. people are living with this. their everyday lives in chicago no matter if it's the south side, north side or the downtown areas, areas that aren't will be historically known for violence, it has taken over the city. and we have a lot of politicians to, unfortunately, blame for that. but that's the reality that we live in. and until there's someone who's willing to come in and say, look, we're going to throw the book at these folks who are committing these crimes, we're not going to be soft on crime, until someone's willing to stand up and say that, or until we

have a white house who says, look, we're going to get the doj involved in a lot of these local criming, we're going to get the fbi to help in placeslike chicago where they're down 2,000 detectives for the current murder workload or any other jurisdiction, for that matter, who are all down in terms of police officers being able to handle this case load, until we get strong leaders like that, we're going to be stuck in this position and reporting on this every week. unfortunately. neil: amazing, gianno. and with all a you've been through, we remember christian very fondly and how close the two of you were as you try to find out who killed mihm. -- him. gianno caldwell remembering his brother, trying to make sure that none of this happens to anyone anywhere else. but it does. it still does. her many after this. i'm a guy w. and my dignity. as if watching my team lose wasn't punishment enough. hahaha. and if you have cut rate car insurance,

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neil: hmm, isn't ited odd we got this news today in the white house releasing some stellar campaign fund raising goals that have been met and surpassed, $90 million raised in the month of march. in case you're counting, that a brings to $192 million, the amount of money that they have on hand. donald trump in the same month raised about $65.6 million. he has a lot less on hand for the time being, but that could change with a big fundraiser at mar-a-lago tonight where he could raise some people saying $40-50 million.

it's not out of the realm of possibility. the must be is the big issue -- money is the big issue because polls are tightening, but the money race is something that the president is enjoying a wide lead. how long that holds? we'll ask francesca chambers, daniel lippman here as well, daniel, the significance of money, the timing of the biden folks releasing this info, on the same day we're going to have this palm beach soiree to raise a lot of money for donald trump. what do you make of it? >> they clearly wanted to shift the narrative a little bit and get people talking about how they are doing very well financially. but money isn't everything. but they're having to kind of tap into those big democratic donors and small dollar donors who are very concerned that biden is behind in the polls. and so there is no come may seven city on the democratic side, and they are working very hard to raise as much money as possible. and i'm also looking to see if they try to get some of nikki

haley's big donors. so far not as much because those the could be good targets for them as well. neil: yeah. it's a rich pool of folks there. the president, the former president has avoided it thus far. that could change. you know, one of the things cha interested me, francesca, you break apart these numbers for the biden folks, 96% of that poll came from those who gave less than $200. what do you make of that? >> and that's one thing the biden campaign is touting as it talks about its fund raising numbers, that so much of this money is coming from grassroots donors. they're using that to say, look, there is enthusiasm for the president among the democratic base. this money isn't just coming from big money donors. but it is significant that they have so much more cash onen hand, neil, than -- on hand, neil, than republicans at this point because it has allowed the president and the democratic party to open up campaign offices early across the united states. it's allowed them to hire more staff in key battleground states

and to be able to fund advertising for the president's re-election campaign so much earlier in the general election i think than they may have otherwise thought that a they could. neil: you know, guy, i wanted to explore something, this was the week that no labels essentially said, no more, we give up, you know? no m&a s. either they couldn't find a candidate or there just wasn't the interest. when i talked to the leader of no labels this week, he kind of acknowledged as much. so, dan, i'm going to be asking you about this first. i want wrote i to respond -- i want you to respond to what he told me. >> no labels was looking for a hero. a hero never if emerged. neil: who are you going to vote for, jim? if. >> who am i going to vote for? well -- [laughter] no labels itself is a c4 organization that doesn't advocate for or against political candidates. you know, we were merely securing -- neil: you had two the -- choice

among those, you as a person, what would you do? >> me as a person? i would vote for biden over trump. neil: interesting. what did you make of that, dan? >> well, he has been a democrat for a while, but i wasn't that shocked by no labels not putting in a candidate because they asked 30 people over the last few years including the rock, and the rock was, like, i don't want to be president. and even a couple of years ago i had done a big story, spent a few months on an investigation into with no labels and how there was turmoil at the organization, there was a cutthroat culture, and so i wasn't that surprised when they were not able to get their act together to find a candidate. so many people turned them down. neil: you know, francesca, it comes back to this notion is robert f. kennedy like the prominent third party threat? because if he is, he's only on a few states' ballots for the time

being. i know when last i spoke to him, he's confident, but it's not going to be all 50 states. there's a move that maybe, maybe try to get in on the libertarian ticket. that's no sure thing. so i guess it comes back to then who does he hurt doing so. >> so democrats are trying to signal that they're taking it seriously because they don't want to have a situation where they didn't focus on it, they didn't elite oppo on him and then you get to a general election scenario and biden loses by, you know, barely loses and then people are looking around saying why didn't you focus more on the third party candidate. and so they aren't really sure yet who his voters are. they're still trying to figure that out. whether it hurts biden more, hurts trump more, but certainly the dnc and the biden campaign are focusing on this at this point. they don't want another jill stein situation. neil: you know, dan, i know everyone compares ross perot in 1990, he garnered 19% of the

vote, but the reality is he didn't get any electoral votes, and he might have gotten more had he not abandoned his campaign early when he was leading in the polls and then the reentered the race too late to enter the polls, but for my money george wallace stands out in 1968. he won quite a few southern state, got 48 electoral votes, clearly damaged democratic candidate hubert humphrey. that was a palpable, real impact third party presence. is rfk that type of presence in. >> well, it's too early to say, but e it seems like the polls are conflicting a little bit because half of republicans have a favorable view of rfk jr., only 25% of democrats. and so those numbers give heart to some democrats who say they're going to take more votes away from republicans ask and trump, you know, with his anti-vaccine views than president biden. and so even -- what's interesting is in a third party,

you know, we don't have any really role for a third party in the presidency because even if in an electoral college they were able to get a significant number of votes and it was able to go to the house of representatives, they would just pick one of the -- a democrat or a republican. neil: interesting. guys, we'll see what happens. man, a lot of cross-currents all at the same time. very good seeing you. in the in the meantime, if you don't think that squatters can get big tax breaks, huge tax breaks, you don't know squat. as is never easy, but starting it 8 months pregnant... that's a different story. i couldn't slow down. we were starting a business from the ground up. people were showing up left and right. and so did our business needs. the chase ink card made it easy. when you go for something big like this, your kids see that. and they believe they can do the same. earn unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase with the

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courts are totally against him, but he also sees that taxpayers are ending up on the hook paying back with rent, allowing this family of squatters to stay in his $2 million house. kim along with his wife and son moved into this pricey bellevue, washington, home in august of 20222. at the time, he claimed an income of $400,000. he paid just one month's rent and hasn't paid since but has bought two new cars. neighbors have rally ared around the homeowner, singh, who 'em grated from india and just became a u.s. citizen in december. singh has won three eviction cases against kim, but even time a taxpayer-funded nonprofit sends him a check for unpaid if rent. it's now up to $88,000, and each time he gets paid, kim is allowed to keep staying in this house represent-free. >> injustice. delay means denied. two years off a, free taxpayer money given to this guy and somebody -- the it's the same money. the taxpayer money is fighting

against me. >> reporter: all of the money comes from a nonif profit wing of the king county bar association. king county taxpayers have given the housing justice project $16 million this year. the money started during covid and is designed to help hardship cases keep a roof over their heads, not pay sr. very high rents in exclusive neighborhoods. and kim has done this before, living in a house a mile away without paying rent for two years. the homeowner lost over $100,000. >> $80,000 to a serial squatter is not what these programs are intended for. and what you're seeing is a perversion of the system and a de-emphasis on private property rights. >> reporter: reagan dunn is i calling for an audit of the housing justice project, but it's an uphill climb for him because he is the only republican on the king county council. neil? neil: surreal. taan springer, thank you very much. dan in seattle. meanwhiling the latest from baltimore, that bridge collapse. another victim has been found. we'll keep you posted after

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>> i fully intend, i fully intend, as the governor knows, to have the federal government cover the cost of building this entire bridge. of i call on congress to authorize this effort as soon as possible. neil: all right, the president of the united states visiting baltimore seeing, of course, that horrific bridge disaster, promising any and all aid that's necessary to get that all rebuilt. it could go into the hundreds of millions of dollars. it is already the most expensive maritime disaster we have ever seen in terms of just the dollars and cents at about half a billion dollars. but the sad story is that another victim has been recovered from the water below.

that the leaves at least three others suspected of being in the same water. mary cain is the maryland claim before of commerce ceo. she has an eagle's eye view of this and what's at a stake for those in the area who depend on a busy port which it was little more than a up couple of weeks ago. mary, so nice to have you. how are things looking there? >> you know, actually, yesterday the army corps of engineers came out and said that they will is have the port operational for major ships at the end of may if which is incredible. i was up there yesterday with the governor9 and the president, and to see everything that's going on is, how they can do that is amazing, but they wouldn't be saying that if they couldn't. so we're very excited about that. neil: the port will get back to normal maybe the end e of may. obviously, the bridge, i would imagine, is going to be a multiyear rebuild. but what are you hearing on that front? >> yes. in fact, they're already in the process of looking at designs for the new bridge, but they're

going to have to test everything that's still there, take it out of the water if it's not strong enough. so i don't expect that bridge to be ready to go for a number of years. and, you know, we're appreciativing happy that the -- neil: please, continue. >> -- that the president plans to pay for the whole thing. neil: yeah. it's going to be a lot to pay for. we don't realize how important ports are in general, but particularly in the baltimore area it's one of the world's buzziest, or was. how long -- busiest, or was. how long do you think it'll take once reopened to get back to those levelsesome in. >> it's amazing how resill i didn't businesses are because already, baltimore or is one of the lance armstrong arest bolters that accepts cars -- largest ports that accepts cars into the united states. we actually have facilities that actually build out the car finish cars once they get into the port, all those specifications that you want. they've already started bringing

in the car ships through sparrow's point. it's not ideal. they have to be smaller ships, but they are getting some cargo through there. there is another port that can actually accept cars hike that. neil: yeah. i'm sorry for that, rudely jumped on you again. mary, i've heard a lot of business leaders talking about delays in goods not only from this port, others halfway across the world with the red sea and you think rebels attacking ships and all. very different, night and day, i know. but there are supply chain issues popping up all over the world, albeit for very different reasons. consumers are going to notice that. is that true? >> oh e, absolutely. and -- oh, absolutely. and one thing that a opening the port won't change is actually getting the goods out of the port. because that bridge is where all of our trucks that carried any kind of hazardous material, they use that a bridge because they can't use the ports in maryland. i mean, the tums that we have --

the tunnels that we have, which are the other means of transportation. so just getting the goods out of the port is going to take a lot longer. neil: amazing. mary, a lot of this news is very promising though, ask we have to look at the half-full glass here because i don't think that would have even been seen as possible a little more than just a week ago, reopening the port itself. >> i agree. neil: mary, thank you for joining us. by the way with, we have not seen any signs of inflation off of all of this yet. in fact, in the latest report on jobs gains that we've seen, the inflation number, what americans are earning year-over-year, it's not popped up in any or worrisome way with. it could, and this could be one of the factors, just not seeing it now. meanwhile, the latest on how israel is responding to this pressure campaign from the white house when after this. because of your credit? here's great news. at newday we've been granted automatic authority

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