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tv   The Story With Martha Mac Callum  FOX News  April 8, 2024 12:00pm-1:00pm PDT

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>> john: but animals are nocturnal begin to make up, animals that are do you know but they go to sleep. it matters with a custom. >> sandra: a little bit and plant like i would imagine too. our circadian rhythm, i mean, everything is a part. you think about how much the sun has to do with our day-to-day lives. >> john: look at that in carbondale, , illinois. they just got into totality, amazing. indianapolis not far behind. were turning off lights here because you can see it's a bit darker. >> sandra: look of that, guys. >> john: not a whole lot. >> sandra: this is what it actually looks like here. >> john: it's been great to explain this video. you are genuinely excited about this and not old and cynical like nice people i genuinely am. i hope you convince everyone other two get excited to. >> john: thanks for checking us out. i'm joanne roberts you tomorrow. >> sandra: and martha mccollum will "your story" and i believe bill is with her right now. >> martha: we are live from fox square. where a watch party going on
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out here in new york city. joining millions of americans witnessing this extraordinary sight. if you were not excited about this this morning when you watch this actually happening it is a phenomenal site and one that we will not say and might not see to this extent because all the conditions are exactly right for some super super viewing of this today in the next one is not for another 20 years so a short time from now we will be under maximum coverage here in new york city. we are going to get around 90% of the sun blocked by the moon and it is a beautiful spring day. we haven't had too many like this but we've got great visibility here in new york. so when it comes over new york we're going to get 90% as i said. so the total eclipse past that we are watching sweep across the country is about 115 miles wide and 4000 miles long and it has more than
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33 million people who are under that. >> the last one was about something like two minutes. this one is twice as long it will get darker so i think that will be the most exciting part. >> i really enjoy space and nature and science and so i think it's a beautiful intersection of all of that. >> martha: she is exactly right and we got fox weather coverage. our team is fanning out across diverse that the whole area, were in the ground at the cities where the total accepted underwear. we are watching at the eagle has. it is now moving upwards indianapolis were expected to happen shortly and chief correspondent john is ready at the indianapolis motor speedway for a massive watch party is underway. look at all those people. it looks like a race is about this part but the race is in the sky between the moon and the sun, jonathan. >> you talked about all the watch parties across the
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country, martha. i'm not sure there's any better place to before i watch party then the indianapolis motor speedway right now. the expecting around 50,000 people to flood the speedway here to come into watch this as a community and i have to say from what we are looking at it looks like they have hit those numbers. the sky is beginning to darken now as we are by my estimation this about three minutes away from the qua quality. you can feel the temperature dropping. you can also feel, martha, very much a sense of expectation among these people and i think what's interesting is as we rate these last couple of minutes, martha, is none of us knows how we are really going to react to this, you know, i think some people might be excited. might be cheering. others i think we'll go a very silent. very silent because this is -- is that a physical experience as you look up and watch the moon completely cover the sun for mike is
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obviously for a lot of people a very spiritual one too. and really demonstrates to us the power of the universe in a time where we are so riven by so many disputes. whether they are national, whether their local, whether they are within your family, or whether they are global wars and global conflicts. this is one of those moments that everybody can share together and feel like we are one tiny part of this vast universe and we are privileged to be here and i have to say, martha, i feel truly privileged to be other events like this with tens of thousands of my closest friends waiting in the last couple of minutes now for the moon to completely cover the sun here in indianapolis they like it will be an extraordinary event. people as you can hear probably getting really excited about totality which we are getting closer and closer to right now, martha. >> neil: for indianapolis is the center of the action
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right now. is one of the areas in the country that is going to get an amazing show. i can hear, jonathan, people in the background there. described to us what you're seeing? >> yeah, we are really just moments away from totality now. we are seeing that last sliver of the sun disappear behind the moon and the excitement really is something to behold, martha. it's an emotional moment if anything imagine seeing everybody here staring up to the skies which are darkening by the second right now, martha. everybody is staring in one direction. you can hear the excitement among these people, they're cheering. they waited ours for this. i can tell you we've all been out here for i don't know six hours or so in a pretty warm sun today and now that sun disappearing behind the moon as we are about to hit the moment of totality. >> martha: do you have light on you and if you can
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kill that light so we can get a sense -- we're going to do that in new york, to get a sense of how dark it is there? >> yeah. there's our light killed and now -- here we go. darkness as falling on indianapolis right now. there's a few tv lights over in the distance behind this but this is it. night is falling at 3:06 pm in indianapolis "we are moving into what feels like full nighttime and it really is -- i have to say, martha, as you stand here? it's a pretty extraordinary experience. listen to those cheers. [ cheering ] [cheering and applause]
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[cheering] >> you heard the excitement there, martha. we are now in i believe we are getting three minutes and about 49 seconds of totality as we move into the ring around the sun no coloring around the moon and the sons the ring that we are looking at here and it is truly a spectacular sight to see in person. quite breathtaking. you can also see a couple of stars out as well. it's so hard to describe just how meaningful the scenes, martha. you look at the crowd, you can feel the emotion of this crowd. [cheering] just an event that a lot of people will never witness again. we know we are going to wait 20 years for the next total eclipse in the united states. a lot of these people are
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probably knowing they won't be around in 20 years time or so. i might not be around in 20 years. so this is a once-in-a-lifetime experience for so many of us. and again, martha, i have to say, i have no idea how i was going to react to this but it was a physical reaction. and emotion -- emotional reaction. it really does make you appreciate the beauty of the earth, the beauty of the moon and the sun. the beauty of the universe. that we are so privileged to be a part of. it's just quite an extraordinary thing and again a real privilege, martha, to be here to witness it with all these fine people who've floated to the indianapolis motor speedway which i have to say as well, martha, has put on a quite spectacular event. and as i look not to my right, all these people, there are people hugging each other. it is really special, martha. really special. >> martha: you know 110,
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i'm thinking about you and all the things you have covered for us in the middle of the wars have near the front lines. [cheering] and other things happened here on earth and i just think this is just and equitable experience and it is point out the magnitude of the universe and how small we are in all of its. >> yeah. it really does. nothing brings it home, nothing that i've ever witnessed that brings it home quite like this, martha. and, yeah, you know, you and i all our colleagues at fox, we've all witnessed around the world and over the years so much strife in so many places, we see the political divide obviously on a daily basis in this country and frankly in many other countries too. but now i stand there with 50,000 or so people that everyone of them overjoyed and brought together by the single moment. it is really a very, very
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special thing. you know, he hope that everybody walks away from this without appreciation and that somehow brings people together in the longer term. we don't just return to the way we are every day. tomorrow morning. this is a special moment. i know that everybody here, you know, casey steagall in dallas, belmont illusion down down in the board agreement all our colleagues across the country have been fortunate enough to witness his forehand smack this i think will live with us for very long time as we begin to now. [cheering] -- see the sun coming back from behind the moon here and another round of cheers as people witnessed this, martha. i'll silence for a moment and let you just enjoy the moments with us. [cheering] [cheering and applause] >> so now is a point, martha,
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where everybody is supposed to put back on their eclipse glasses as receivers and the sun again. we were allowed to have smugly without them for the three minutes -- about 49 seconds and it was a beautiful thing to be able to stare directly at the moon in front of the sun there "they are now coming back to the light and big -- people are putting their eclipse back -- and everybody has just witness a truly incredible moments and that's it. and now it moves on. we'll move it onto our colleagues before i want to be -- if anybody that wants to tell you what it was like for them? if you can reach them. >> let's see if we can get -- we've got a family right he here. hi guys. how are you doing? what did you think of that? >> that was amazing. i love fox news. >> that's not the best part of the day. the best part of the day what is -- what you think? >> i thought it was awesome. once-in-a-lifetime
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experience. >> important to bring the family? >> absolutely. great experience for the kids to share. yeah. >> does it it make you feel like we're a pretty small speck in that universe and perhaps we can get a lot of little bit better? >> absolutely. >> for releasing goal rams not courts there if we're all getting along them? [laughter] >> never. >> hi, sir. you are one of the loudest voices out there, you were pretty excited. >> it was pretty incredible. that was amazing. it was life changing. of never seen anything like that. >> are you from indianapolis? >> i'm from columbus. i traveled ours here to see. >> worth it? >> worth every mile and every minute in the car. >> i heard your voice there. you moved me. was emotional for all of us. thank you for having so much fun with that. >> hi, guys at how are you doing? >> it was awesome. >> what was the best part the sun disappear coming back? >> the whole thing. all the way.
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>> i liked when he was a dark is because it looked like an album cover and then you could say -- it was amazing. best album cover ever. >> martha: that's what i thought. [laughter] >> life changing moment for all you guys? >> yeah. remember when i was in first grade. it's all coming back. >> shaver those memories and enjoy the rest of your day. toy think safe to say, martha, everybody was as moved as i felt by that. really an incredible experience and again i said it before, i'll say it again an absolute privilege to be here. a privilege to witness the universe doing his thing and a privilege to be among tens of thousands of truly thrilled people here at the indianapolis motor speedway. >> martha: i'm so happy for you, jonathan. and also for the folks in dallas too who really were under cloud cover and then suddenly it's okay this, of totality is just opening up for everybody so that they can witness this incredible cosmic moment and it is truly
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stunning to watch the universe in action, to see the sun eclipse by the moon. i forget who said it but it reminded me of the, you know, cover of the pink floyd album, the backside of the moon. i'm sitting here with bill heimer. and it's just -- i'm very touched by the emotional reaction that we're hearing from the people who are watching it. extraordinary, jonathan, thank you so much. stay with us. >> to jonathan and his brother in indianapolis number 1, great location. >> martha: absolutely. >> the indianapolis 500 and i think after that we can put jonathan on the unity ticket after all. [laughter] because he really showed a desire to bring people together there. the really cool to see "indianapolis is a great relocation, coming up a little bit, niagara falls is a great location as well. and we are in midtown, manhattan. unfortunately -- >> martha: we have a lot of
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skyscrapers around us. >> bill: their bad news -- >> martha: and you know who will be a arrest viewer i think his neck for because nate for it out on the intrepid and he will have a much clearer view which i'm very excited to experience with him and just a little while. i didn't introduce you you don't really need an introduction. bill hemmer, anchor of america's newsroom and also an ohio native. so we are watching ohio sort of in the path here shortly included as well. >> bill: i was watching this path. there's a great website that really showed the floor and the younger free. depicted up in seymour, indiana and bloomington than in the indianapolis where jonathan is. thing that got in columbus, ohio probably could not stay home. he would not have gotten the totality but he would've gotten a lot of it. >> martha: he said it was life changing. >> bill: which is what a little bit what we are getting in new york right now. you can feel the air has dropped school or college temperature has gone down and dave and i had an astrophysicist on this morning. he said -- -- we ask why does
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the wind direction change, and she claimed was that the intensity of the sun on the earth lightens up and that allows the wind and the air to change directions and that -- i thought that was cool. >> martha: gravity is what holds all of us here and hold the solar system in place, right? and you see the shift that occurs even with this alignment of the sun and the moon and us here on earth. it's really interesting how, you know, the moon is very close to us in my tens of thousands of miles away. but the sun is 19 million miles away in my think about that for a little bit "that's why this tiny moon when it is in between the earth and the sun is able to look like it's blocking the whole thing out and also notice the corona that we are seeing around the moon here on this shot from cleveland and becae of the maximum magnetic forces that are at play every 11 years or so which is what's going on right now, you are seeing these shoots coming out of the sun behind the moon that
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are extraordinary and this is what scientists are also focus on right no because we are studying, you know, you see that flare sort of around four or 5:00 pm. nurse undercut of things that they will study very intensely and there's the sky over cleveland right now. its nothing -- there's nothing political about this which is what's so great. >> bill: i can tell you as an ohio guy and as a cincinnati guy first catholic live -- cleveland has never looked better. [laughter] that is a gorgeous short. that is almost -- is the most beautiful sunrise or sunset you can -- i've never seen the. >> martha: in the middle of the afternoon it is extraordinary. and, you know, i think that even people who maybe woke up this morning -- look at the players on the left-hand side of your screen there that you see shooting off mike and they are going, you know, a million miles in to the atmosphere, off of the sun. and then they are showing up behind the moon. >> bill: just the power of that store is something that
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we sometimes tend to forget and when the -- you have the moon block it out like it is right now that they have this thing called bailey's beads, right, that shoot down the canyons of the moon and that's a little bit of the flaring you see. but it's very difficult for us just with our plane i on a regular sunny day to look up at the sun and to be able to see what the scientists are now observing on behalf of the eclipse and wright their you see that, martha? they describe this smack that as the wedding ring a comes together in the shape -- >> martha: the environment comes out in to the moment. i want to be my give people the right numbers here because her in front of me right now. world, -- are light and a second so you see what's happening here in new york city. the moon is 400 times sma smaller, there we go, smaller then the sun, okay? the moon is a hundred times closer to earth then the sun is. the moon is 239 thousand miles away.
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the sun is 93 million miles away. so this shot that you're getting in cleveland is now it starts to pop out on the other side and i think -- every color, every city has a different -- this is -- so that's properly. i would call it -- it's a beautiful area. you can see the sky very clearly and properly, new york. is a beautiful part of the country. >> bill: so now you move up to malbrough falls and erie, pennsylvania. enough to the northern reaches, northern -- northeastern reaches of the u.s. and then it moves on to canada and, you know, we are not changing. what you see right now is what we see here in new york at 3:19, 3:20 in the afternoon. >> martha: the weird thing is it happens a lot in new york because the buildings
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are total sometimes the sunblocks -- and it suddenly gets dark. >> bill: i heard some horns so the camera didn't get them -- >> martha: yeah, this is an unusual experience though, watching this market is getting really dark. the sky is different. is definitely looking like it that when it's 5:30 pm at night in the summertime, maybe, when it starts to get like this. >> martha: you feel the temperature right now. >> martha: yeah, there's a weird kind of intensity, humility. something, pressure, inott. let's go to nicosia who can real -- use reel scientific words to describe these things for us. he's here at watch schmuck fox where is our watch party continues. >> this is incredible. we are literally out here -- kilrea out here -- we are trying to find it as we have all the high-rise buildings here in the city to contend with so right now is a little bit visible on the corner of fifth and -- 50th and six and i've got some ladies here with me. you were actually able to say
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they took a few moments ago? >> yes. it was amazing. is -- very cool. >> what are you thinking? >> i thought it was really cool. i saw it a few years ago and this was different. this was really cool. >> death -- speaking of -- you were just talking about in the studio. have you noticed that the temperature has dropped considerably? were close to -- not -- have you noticed that? >> i have. you have become a bit chilly here. >> i had to run in and get my coat. >> so listen, you guys, you can phone a friend if you need help with this question. i'm giving away fox whether who these to anyone that can answer when the next total solar eclipse will happen in the united states. any idea? >> is in 20 years. >> not bad. to do a little -- >> two oh oh "so 2044. >> you got it! i'll give the whole career some jerseys. didn't even have to phone a
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friend. appreciated. and joy. you can see the rest of the court in this and how it's been. we were lucky of the eclipse two blocks up and obviously as the sun has been moving that we've been seeing these groups of people appear in different corners and it is all very exciting and also a little bit chaotic out here as you can hear behind me, traffic is gnarled up likely because of all the groups of people that aren't going out just want to get a glimpse of the sun. and i'll tell you what, this is unbelievable. i can't believe how much, like, you guys mentioned the temperature has dropped and it certainly is much more them here in the city. and so, yeah, a lot of people out and about just trying to look up and catch a little glimpse of the eclipse while they can. while. while they can see it. >> martha: so much, nick. nick cousy around the corner from us. he's right by radio city music also if you've been in new york city you know exactly where this intersection is. and he is right, we keep the pockets of people in
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different corners, different blocks with a some sort of falling in those areas so that's when they're getting a moment to see it. but i think we should swing over to the intrepid and go see made for our correspondent who is over there. we love to know what it looks like from where you are, na nate. >> high, martha. there are some lights from other tv crews and perhaps that impacting what we're seeing right now. is turned to get darker although not entirely pitch dark or anything like that but we are approaching the peak here in new york city where we are roughly going to be about 90% of totality mark hunter the people onboard the uss intrepid right now. i asked my photographer just sort of turnaround and show all the people wearing their eclipse classes at looking up taking pictures. people of all ages. there very excited. how are things going so far, guides? i think i found the only quiet people in new york city. i got someone who is ready to talk to us. this is maddie from connecticut. maddie, so far, explained to
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me what you've seen? mack. >> so what i've seen is i've seen -- i saw all the planes. >> but what about the eclipse with the glasses? >> i've seen it change colors. i've seen go from orange to red and then the yellow and change all the way the colors. i've seen ella get a lot smaller with a big indent closing it in. is very interesting. >> you said that you were really into science at school mike is it different than what you expected or is what what you respected? >> it's different, like, when you see a picture, you think, like, it's oh, yeah, it's a picture but it's cool. but then you actually see it it's ten times better, ten times cooler. ten times more awesome. >> more awesome is a good way to put it. you're going to olivia rego tonight at msg. what are you more excited about, the eclipse or seeing her concert? >> i think probably the eclipse because i can
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probably never see it again in my lifetime or i can but i would have to travel. olivia rego concert you can just, like, it cost money but you can just go by tickets everywhere. here it's -- is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity and you only have two, like, -- i only have two drive, like, two hours with a is really amazing. >> that's awesome. i'm so happy you are having a great time. control the rest of this, make sure you use the proper and where and enjoy the concert tonight. if you guys know olivia rego is one step below taylor swift so there is some pretty strong words right there. where people come on -- maddie was talking about some of the things you're on board the uss intrepid. the space shuttle pavilion is just done this way where the enterprise space shuttle is so people are learning about space exploration history and viewing this historic moment coming from all over the world to new york city. this family specifically came from paris.
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tell me about your experience of our? >> hi. we came from paris especially for the eclipse. we timed our stay here to come to the intrepid and visit the eclipse. >> what about you? >> i'm from brooklyn. i'm hosting them, i'm enjoying the eclipse because i didn't see the previous one. >> and this was the reason that you came from paris? this was the main event. >> this was the main event and also the children love new york because they see it in movies, like, what's your favorite movie at home alone two? >> home alone two and home alone. >> even kevin mcallister to nancy and eclipse. what you think about historic moment? >> it's -- it will be totally -- totally dark. >> pretty cool. told -- thank you guys so much. >> thank you. thank you, new york!
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bye! >> so, yeah. ninety% of totality here in new york city. the peak is expected to last for less than a minute and then and about 3:58 were expecting to no longer have any effects that are visible here in new york city but certainly a lot of energy hear unworthy intrepid. they held it was for the 2017 eclipse. but this one is certainly bigger than it was and more spectacular to taken here from the back. will% you guys. >> martha: what a great young lady you spoke to nate. she's having a fantastic time and she's learning a lot like all of the kids there. you so much, nate for. this is incredible. this is properly, new york this is right now we upstate new york. is a spectacular area, beautiful lake area in upstate new york, and they are getting quite the show and bill hemmer is still with us. bill, you know, you listen to the children having this experience. it's a wonderful and thinking
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about the fact that we are feeling, like, it's a chilly, fall night. all of a sudden. >> bill: 8:00 -- >> martha: in the middle of a spring afternoon. >> bill: and a couple of minutes we are going back to 3:30 in the afternoo [laughter] i thought the kid at the indianapolis 500 was really cool. he must be in eighth grade because he said "i saw when -- it when i was in the first grade," so there were -- that was seven years ago there about so he has that memory as long. will wait another 20 years to see the surrounding. >> martha: exactly. look at that. that is copper like i do start to see the sun emerging again from behind the moon and the backside of the moon you're looking at the upper end marker of the sun is to ask -- bill, thank you so much. >> bill: you bet. good to be with you, martha. we will celebrate the next eclipse together when it comes to put. >> martha: we well, my friend. will well. will you -- in the -- rate to have you
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with us michio. tell me what you're thinking as you're watching this amazing amazing site of the universe. >> well it's been spectacular. the media has been saying that we're going to have a washed out here in dallas, texas but no, the clouds began to part. it's almost like something from the bible. the clouds begin to part just as the pinnacle of the event took place and so everyone was going well. this is an event for your lifetime. and this fulfills your bucket list. all of the people are saying that well, you know, i have a few more things i got to do before i came -- in the bucket and watching and eclipse of the sun is right there in the top of the calendar. and so i think we could -- cosmic show here in dallas, texas. >> martha: it is extraordinary and talked was a e science are what we are witnessing and the opportunity that this gives scientists to study the shape
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of the sun and the fact that is happening during this period where the magnetic forces on the sun are really throwing off some spectacular corona flares. >> yes. we are witnessing a cosmic coincidence that probably won't be duplicated throughout most of the solar system and the galaxy. that is the moon is a certain distance away from the earth, but the sun is 400 times that distance, and a sun is 400 times larger other -- as a consequence, the two 400's cancel exactly as a cosmic coincidence and that's why we have the eclipse of the sun. and scientists, of course, or fascinated by this. it allows us to actually study the corona, this -- to study the creation of energy. and einstein used that in order to prove the correctness of relativity theory.
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and so, eclipse as of the sun has always been part and parcel of the history of science in the world. >> martha: you know, what do you make of the suggestions that could mess with technology during the period of the total eclipse or that, you know, people's health or their mood might be affected by it? is a science behind that? >> no. however, he have to realize though that on a scale of centuries now, it is possible that beslan could have a temper tantrum and unleash a gigantic solar flare towards the earth. that's what happened in 1859. that is the famous events where a gigantic solar flare was emitted from the sun and it hit the earth. if we had electronics, if we had the internet. if we had radio, television and powerplants, it would have walked wiped out modern technology on the planet or. and so we scientists are trying to figure out what happened?
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why was it, like, like that and again, these events will take place once every few hundred years so we don't have to wait -- think is going to happen tomorrow. >> martha: i was looking -- look at the history of observations of eclipse is an it records back to 3300 bc to some right things that were found at ancient writings that were found in ireland. and what they found what -- the people wrote "the son has been eating." you think about what we wrote -- know no and what their understanding was then. you can just imagine how they might have felt that the earth was ending, that the sun was disappearing forever. >> that's right. whenever that happened, the -- you have to make noise, you have to dance, you have to celebrate, yellow, scream whenever ensuring of, 2-3 minutes later, the dragon that was eating up the sun disappeared. so that gave a lot of credibility with the shamans
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believe that by dancing and chanting and yelling, you can influence the motion of the universe. >> martha: lesley keyter this amazing shot that we have right now from main. there is an amor -- a normal corona around the moon right now with the sun behind it does extraordinary. so what do you think scientists were watching the activity of the sun right now can learn firmament that we didn't learn before? >> where there is a mystery we still do not understand. as you go away from the sun, it gets hotter coming in fact the temperature outside the sun is millions of degrees hotter then the surface of the sun itself. why? we don't know. is one big mystery and the other big mystery is as i mentioned is why do we have the gigantic solar flares once every few hundred years. it doesn't happen all the time. but when it does happen it can really throw you back
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hundreds of years in to the past to make sure these are the two big mysteries of the sun. >> martha: people talked about and we mentioned this before but, you know, and we observed it, really. we saw jonathan hunt in indianapolis, at the raceway there. and the people who witnessed it in a very four-way and in the totality and in texas and well, you know, one of the observers, one of the kids said "i feel like it change me," very emotional experience. what do you attribute that too -- that do? >> g., i don't know. but i think when people see the eclipse of the sun they say wow because they feel part and parcel of the universe. you are sort of communing with mother nature. something people have an existential connection when they see the eclipse. you know, throughout history, eclipse have come and gone but so what? now we have eclipse media. moon mania. you realize that the number
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of hotel bookings and the number of rental cars rentals have gone up several thousand percent. certain politicians have declared a state of emergency because of all the flood of tourists. 31 million people live within the shadow of the eclipse and people are seeing that it could total more than that. and as a consequence people are wondering why this media -- mania and i think first of all people do have a bucket list and is high on the bucket list. but second of all, space travel is becoming fascinating once again. for many years, space travel was ho-hum another space shuttle launch but no people are saying "i can go into outer space." private citizens are going into outer space. elon musk is even selling tickets. tickets for private citizens to go to the moon. and so i think there's been a
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game changer in terms of how we relate to mother nature. >> martha: i think it's an encouraging sign when i heard that the longer say that even though she was here to see an olivia rodrigo concert in new york that the eclipse was bigger to her because she said "i could get a ticket to see a concert anytime but i can't always see this." and i think about, you know, kids raised on social media and basically staring in to the screens what seems like the majority of the day and i do love that these kids are so excited about what's happening in nature and the universe. final thought of the -- on that if you want? >> yeah, and i think that's good because it puts people into it with reality in the universe. you know, we spend most of our time looking out the ground moping around, wondering how we will pay for the next rental check. and we don't look up. but when we look up, we see that there's a whole universe out there. and i think people are existential shock. i saw the eclipse just a few
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minutes ago here in dallas, texas and people were saying wow look at that. oh, my god. people were saying they feel close to mother nature after seeing the eclipse. is why i think this eclipse is different. it's different from the ones we've had in the past. we now have moon madness appear when people are beginning to fall in love with universe and the space program and astronomy once again. >> martha: you know what, i find that very encouraging i think we really need it. so thank you very much, michio kaku calibrated to have you here. always waited out to. extraordinary there. is getting a little brighter here in new york city. -- in the brian kelln mutual on rocks -- fox radio. we brought back this up for you because we know you --'s and you has the consumer and back and he is right because
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people are so into their phones today that if there's anything i unifying the that's not an election or super bowl, it's happening without anybody queueing it. is doing it on its own. of enemies about how many people are -- so much as you mentioned. we have jonathan and you have built who were out of order and there in all that's happening but once -- >> martha: what i like about it too i feel its full commercial -- circle in the word "corona." because we're all in the middle of the coronavirus for three years and had such an obvious negative connotation and also everyone is talking about the corona of the sun and it is something extraordinary and something uplifting and also another people have no -- i can't really find any political agenda in the story. >> bill: >> but i did --
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but the cool thing here was that you can see pockets of people, the sun was falling on their faces on their glasses and they were all staring up and it moved in a clockwise fashion around this area. it's like stonehenge. >> a little bit like stonehenge because there around it and we do have hedges. and they were looking at to see what's going on and, of course, -- the whole new york stopped in return for one minute or at least 5-7 minutes and even in a time when on a monday when it's quite busy, i think people just stopped driving for a walk to go take this and. a thing is pretty extraordinary. this isn't going to happen a lot but it had people talking more about planets and solar systems and i totally believe
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with miss -- what mr michio kaku said. people are saying why arena back on the moon? why can't we be doing this? people seem to be literally generally fascinated by science we don't have it the semester under schedule. >> martha: and we have wars going on in gaza and in ukraine and, you know, he look at the strike that exists on this beautiful planet earth. and it does make you feel that thanks are -- we are very small in the universe and you watch this movement of the solar system and i think that it does put things into perspective of it for people. i hope it does. >> i do. i actually think that's more important. i'm -- >> martha: -- for some reason this made ryan feel bigger. >> and that's why i'm going to -- and find out why i feel that way. but i do find this so interesting is that i have not found many people who said i don't care. you know sometimes people say where it's not a big
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deal. i thought to myself this is a big deal through it and everyone will be talking about it what's going on in people taking pictures of their pets and try to find out if they are predicting this, how they're reacting to this. i have to report that my two with pyrenees, no reaction from account asleep. no reaction. >> martha: i was at home a couple hours ago. i said please record the dogs reaction to what happened and i haven't received anything yet so michio is still with us. michio, is it true that animals respond, you know, or feel the pressure of this as we look ahead to the scene in dallas, texas, where we saw the totality about an hour and a half or something like that ago and i this extraordinary, beautiful calgary the full image of the sky. michio? >> yes. think people that have studied animals realize that animals are sensitive to the environment much closer than we humans. we humans live in a world where we have a world inside our head. with animals they don't do that. animals are very much in
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touch with the environment, temperature luminosity at how much sunlight there is. and so i think that yes, animals are much more sensitive to eclipse is then we humans who are sometimes oblivious to what's happening up there in the sky. >> martha: i think that social. anyone who has dr animals knows that they sense -- and something outside long before you do. they feel when the ground is moving, you know, when something is going on outside or when a storm is coming and they have an interesting relationship with nature and i think it's one of the things that makes them really special. you know, and we are sort of extrinsic the sunken of coming back a little bit. it feels like the air is warm and relevant here it. tell us what you understood -- dissipate as this moves further north in the window gets a little bit smaller with each movement, right? >> yeah, you mean for people that are near canada? >> martha: yes. vermont. and know there's a bunch of people on the ski mountains
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in vermont waiting to see the. >> right. right now i'm in dallas, texas. and we are one of the first people in the united states to experience this eclipse. but as you go further north it does change. but i want to say that the reaction i think is univ universal. all. people are in all of the universe. this is different. people -- previous eclipse's have come and gone and ho-hum but this is different. i think it's different because people are trying to put things in perspective. people are riding their bucket list now, they want to know what it all means. have i done everything that i want to do in life? and astronomy is coming back. would've thought? astronomy is coming back. people are worried about what's happening in outer space. they want to hitch a ride with some of these rockets that are going into outer space. and people are becoming to realize there's a whole universe of their. so i think this eclipse is
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different. it's different from all the other exceptions that i've been through. >> martha: michio, thank you so much. great to have you with us today from dallas, texas enmax the first big destination of this amazing occurrence that we have all watched and it's amazing to me to hear people on the ground who start for lawn saying that it was just an extraordinary personal experience for them. you heard it from the voices of our reporters along the way as all. so michio thank you. with happy with us today. >> anytime. my pleasure. >> martha: great to see you. will see you soon. so as you know and as you heard in the days leading up to this, i need special glasses to be able to witness this if you are in the area of totality. if you're in the past. look at this little doggy. it's really hard to keep your glasses on a dog that i can attest to that. let's bring on jon mulder any, after visitors at the carnegie solution for science. rate have you with us today. i know you been hurt very highly anticipating this.
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how has it been for you so far? >> it's been amazing. i'm in dallas as well and we just had totality about an hour ago. we were on the edges of our seats because the clouds but the cleared of just-in-time and this is the third time i've seen a total solar eclipse and every time it reminds me of -- it's that unique experience. is never just disappoints. >> martha: and how you describe phishing describe the emotional impact of it and how it makes a human being feel to be actually be able to witness the numbers and action over the course of a few minutes? >> yeah, what i liked -- love about the eclipse and i think it does remind us that we are part of a bigger system, is a bigger solar system. you're on a planet with this moon and the sun. but i keep describing it -- until you see you don't know what it means. and i had like 200 people on a grassy field with myself and they were all -- beforehand no one -- -- i
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said you're not prepared for what you're about to see. enough to see if you're going to want to go against before white -- how did this differ from the ones you've seen before, and tell us about the scientific circumstances that made it so vibrant and we can see the solar flares lunching -- -- i was in montana for that one in 2017 and in 2019 i had seen a total solar eclipse in chilly but both of those where was this -- nonreactive what we call it solar minimum period. right now the sun is very active, people have been hearing about the flares over the last few months. is super exciting. and so when that happens the corona tends to be much brighter and it was tremendously bright. the first thing i thought of was -- while. that is not what it looked like in 2017 or 2019. >> martha:
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was different in those two scenarios? >> yeah, so every 11 years the sun goes through a cycle where it's extremely active and then 11 years later it's not. and so -- and an egg was back up an assignment -- on a variable or cycle. when it's quite like on 2017 there was virtually no fulr flares are no activity then when is very active -- this is related somehow to the magnetic field of the sons but we don't really understand it that well. it's a very regular cycle and so we knew this was going to be much more interesting because her son has been extra exceptionally active over the last few months and it really shows. the corona was amazingly bright which is what happened when the sun is very active. >> martha: so for scientist such as yourself, this is a science moment. what do you hope to learn.
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if you can convey twice, if you can convey to us, i think that you think we might know more about as a result of what we are viewing no? >> yeah. the funding is although i do you -- i also used as a human. -- even for me that -- from a science standpoint, you know, the sun is the nearest art was. is the only one can study in detail from it is remarkable that we don't fully understand how it works. and and it looks like this really gives a chance particularly to understand how the sound' surface is related to the corona must be aerobic and only recently during -- i've been saying a lot this week the other thing is that the corona is a component that extends out in to the solar system, is a coma and the eventually interacts with us here on earth max o'leary really want to understand that -- >> martha: and some of the corona, you know, dish sort
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of shooting off over the surface, not exactly, but the edges of the sun arere extraordinary and the distance that they are shooting out in to the atmosphere is extraordinary. and extreme that was? i think it's called cme? >> yes so -- is our recall mast objections, is dme part of that, and these are very large events. you know, they can count -- and skills of the earth. and these are huge activities that happen understand that material that's being abducted from the sun that come out in to the solar system and this is, you know, is partly -- and has a direct impact on us and potentially it can in theory do damage. we can have, you know, communication systems fail temporarily from that sort of thing so understanding how this works is important. if we can understand how to do it and predicted it would be helpful.
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>> martha: so you coronal mass actions which you just described are the reason that you see the northern lights in parts of earth, correct? >> well yes, because the material as i said comes out the wrestlers them and eventually makes the earth and it's those particles from the sun that are interacting with the earth' magnetic field that creates a beautiful northern lights. and so the nevertheless should be tremendous this year because the sun is injecting a lot of materials before when you expect -- when can we expect to see them as a result of this? >> the timescale is daze two weeks later. i should say at the moment the sun has been exceptionally active for the last few months and so is almost a continual thing. so, you know, this is probably a very good you're if you're going to see the northern lights because it's probably going to be most active. >> martha: i cited upstate new york once in june and their extraordinary. there are other places of work that you even bigger shows but thank you so much, john, fascinating to talk to
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an amazing to you watching these pictures and thank you for being here. with a happy with this. >> thank you. appreciated. >> martha: let's check in with correspondent need for as we get a look at -- this is a live shot of cleveland. you can see the moon is passing over the sun now. we saw the total eclipse over cleveland and now the sons -- another month -- moon is moving further to the north in explaining this amazing geometry. it's really beautiful to look at. need for is over in the intrepid in new york city where he's been talking with people there. hello again. >> high, martha. yeah, we're seeing the effects of the moon receiving with it being a bit more brighter by the minute the effects of the eclipse will last for under ten more minutes here in new york. people are starting to leave the intrepid but we just learned that we thousand people came to watch the eclipse today including these two boys, jude and luc from seattle. with you guys think? that was pretty cool. >> i've never seen equal records before make it -- and
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it looks critical. were downtown and it was one turn of the wind and one half and i was getting closer and electrical. >> about you? >> is a cool experience. of downtown new york, new york, people were lined in streets and was just watching it. not good for traffic but, you know, they're stopping and looking. >> don't let the chicago cubs sweatshirt for you, there from seattle. and you guys are going to go back to school and you have seen the eclipse and your friends didn't. i think you have a pretty good story for the lunch room. what you think? be what i can't wait to tell my friends. admin on the news too. it has been really cool. of never been in new york in my letter been really cool. >> yeah, i can brag to the kids oi got on the use. you didn't remember critical experience. >> you guys definitely have bragging rights and check a lot of boxes on this trip so thank you very much to my team traveled home. nice meeting you voice. from the cubs to delilah, yankee's. we all experience the same thing, no matter what team
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we. [ some applause ] what did you think of the eclipse? >> it was good. it was good. i thought -- mean i guess event. main circle. but it was good. it was a great experience. and love doing this with my kids. edited the last time and it was great. >> introduced me to your son here. >> so this is nathan. say high. >> casing, you've actually seen two eclipse is in your life but i'm not sure you remember the first one in 2017. the avenue recollection of it? >> yeah. >> what you remember hi was today any different for you? >> what was different is this one was kind of shape of a pringle at first but when i went with my brother, it was kind of showing, like, a whole blackhole in the sun started to say -- it was getting heated up.
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>> pretty descriptive words rather. look like a pringle or like a bite of a cookie. for mom, what was dislike for for you with your kids being a little bit older rather than, you know, how they were in 2017? >> i feel like they get remember it now looking in videos and photos that can keeps them remember how he was back in 2017. but now they actually have an imprint in memory -- or memory. >> we've got 20 years until the next eclipse in north america so you guys certainly witness history today thank you very much for your time. >> thank you for having us. >> of course. next meeting you. nice meeting you, buddy. have a good day guys spew people are starting to pilot but you can still see the eclipse for at least another few minutes. we'll send back to you. >> martha: the new yorker of course is a little skeptical about how great it was. [laughter] he was like it was okay.
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it was okay." there's -- thank you so much, need. made 40 over on the intrepid which if you haven't been in the great place to visit with your kids. extraordinary airplanes and all sorts of equipment that was used in the wars on that amazing aircraft carrier the intrepid. is it indianapolis are you looking at right now and it does look like a cookie that has eric by taking an event, that the sun in the background and the moon make it's path over to the other side of it. so we are really being treated to some extraordinary sites today and for one astronomer at this historic event not just about science. it is also a religious experience. cheap religion correspondent lorne greene in here with us in new york. wait to have you with us. >> it's great to be here. >> i joined the thousands of hundreds of new yorkers who listen out of the officers to watch the eclipse marked a little sliver between -- >> martha: were you able to see? >> yes.
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with the glasses i saw. it was absolutely awesome. incredible. anything about it is not science can predict eclipse is that they garner less fear and more fascination. but for one sign this, this rare event confirms his faith in god but it might surprise you are. as the moonwalks understand and brings total darkness to a large swath of north america today, millions are marveling at the worksite. for physicist and astronomer doctor luke ross its reminder that is solar eclipse -- which prove the universe was finite and that it had a beginning. >> the equations of general relativity reliably described movements of bodies and universe. space and time are created which establishes that the cause of the universe must be an entity or be beyond space and time.
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>> now he says only in the bible among all holy books is god described in that way. rosters believe -- will live in a unique time in the history of the universe where we just happen to be able to view these eclipse is because the moon's distance from the earth is the exact sight it needs to be in order to completely block out the sun. >> if we were here in a different time that we want to be able to understand the physics of our son carla physics of other stars with a degree that we can. god wanted us in my opinion to be able to read the whole book of nature. >> he says the glimpse of the eclipse this give us a glimpse into god's character. that we can predict the celestial motions is not by chance but because the greater has ordered the world in that way and allowing us to connect with our designer. is a very fascinating though because it actually said the moon is actually pulling away from the earth so we were in the exact time in history upon millions of years that we can actually view these eclipse is where the moon
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totally blocks out the sound. >> martha: because, of course, is constantly evolving and changing our space -- >> exactly. and einstein's theory confirms that there is a beginning. that they're in the big back for the universe is expanding like this there may not how we know that. >> martha: was interesting what he said at the beginning about how einstein's theory of relativity in his opinion prove that the universe had a moment of beginning that can only have been created by an entity that said that in the motion. >> i understand before the general relativity theory scientists believe that the universe wasn't static, eternal and that there was no beginning to end. it was einstein's theory that actually confirm that it had a beginning and an sign actually inserted in factor to create the static universe and realize he had taken her because it was an accurate and that's what gave us the big bang. >> martha: fascinating. it so interesting and important also discussion today about the ours during which christ was crucified
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and whether or not the darkness that was described that came over that area for three hours is scientifically possible. >> that's what dr ross eschemic is said from an astronomer's point of view there was sufficient was something totally different. is solar eclipse for about one minute to seven and a half minute mark but the bible describes in the course of action was total darkness for three hours. from the throne was one of you that is not an eclipse. there is something else totally. and so you have to go back and say okay is there a natural because of that are is this another kind of miraculous event that god created during the crucifixion? >> martha: it's really fascinating and, you know, just very quickly in the last-minute that we have that we hear everybody today that we spoke into thinking that it would make them think about their place in the world and how small we are in the universe and how short our time is on this planet. >> anybody who thinks they're in control of their own
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lives, if you see that solar eclipse, you have no indication that you're in -- there is somebody out there who can create that at this time in history. >> martha: thank you so much, lauren. lauren always has a great perspective on these things and a depth of understanding of a lot of it that you bring to the table so is right happy with us. thank you very much for joining us today. what an extraordinary day and will conveniently new to watch this throughout the path as it moves north, upstate new york into canada. internet and extraordinary experience that everyone is talking about. usually -- around the dinner table with your family so thank you for joining me on the story today outside in the plaza, when extremes to be out here. will see you tomorrow back on the story. have a great evening. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ singing

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