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everyone come i am laura ingraham and this isnight. "the ingraham angle" reportingin from texas. thank you for joining us tonight. this is a fox news alert, a historic moment president trump filling guilty all 34 counts. we will go live in just a moment but first. i guess we all need what, toat i shop at banana republic from now on because that is what it feels like, yeah, sa ba banana repubc and i wish there was something n to laugh about but there is not. this is disgraceful day that america may never recover from here the jury convicted trump oe all 34 counts of falsifying business records in order to6 interfere with 2016 presidential election. we will break that all down for our you but from the beginning this case should have never been brought. this judge should never be allowed to sit on the case. these charges should never have been dismissed when the first motion filed by the defense. t the jury instructions were fatally flawed to come flawed, farcical. you don't have to be a former

law clerk to know this was a travesty. all along bragg case was an extension otherwise doomed bidel campaign. this is a humiliating day for e all love. that wove. it makes us look like a joke ton the rest of the world, is this what they meant by the american way? democrats have shown us wh o they really are. they don't intenpod to give up power, not ever. funny, that is what they like to accuse trump of herod and this law fare is rewarded in november, it will mean never again will you have a real choice in the presidential electionnts on t. you may be will choose between two candidates on minor disagreements on the big issueshe but never again will you be abla to elect someone who makes fundamental changes again, not at our border,t not with thesekb wars wars and places like ukraine and not our economic f policy. think about this, donald trump gave up fame, fortune, and a t

very comfortable life to try to save america from the forceshe that are trying to tear it down right now. if they can do this to someone like donald trump with his means, it will be very difficult to ever turn this around. at least he has the money and the resources right now to fight the case is being broughtwill against him, including this and the appeals that will follow, but most peoplree will never ger this for. so, are we going to establish a precedent where the president can put his political opponent in jail? because if they can doe you, th, this will, i promise you, this will be the new normal. the democrats are showing you real power is like. it is the type of power we usually see dictators exercise anin china, cuba, and north kore and if anyone threatens the establishment in the future, the democrats will use the same playbook: charge someone like i don't knowtion j.d. vance or

ron desantis in a liberal jurisdiction on bogus charges and then have a radical judge and down jury instructions that will make it almost impossible for a jury not to convict them of something. so, these great defenders of democracy would rather ruin the public's faith in the entire american system.stro they would rather lay waste toud thice constitution. they would rather destroy the credibility of the u.s. judicial system pin risk the real possibility that the people will elect aa common sense populace again like trump. if you allow them to get away with this, my friends from if it goes down in the history books that trump was winning until convicted of a crime in ath liberal jurisdiction, if trump goes on to lose the presidency,o then this will become the model how the left will hang onto power forever. the now, the left is gleefulthey tonight, no doubt be reducing them inti o the streets cheerinm pumping their fist. i can only imagine the comin

book deal, the 12 saviors of o democracy.ow the interviews on the today'sc show and nearly panel on nbc. they are thinking the 15 is the real loser here bu reat really,e are all the losers spirit because if this is allowed to stand and if these people aren't thrown out of office with an exclamation point, we will be forced to live in a one-party state for the foreseeable fu future. the only recourswithe now is wih the appellate process as slow a it is, but more importantly, with you the voters. given how things have gone, we will have moreif luck with the people. if this feels bad tonight, think of how you will feel if biden and harris win again. so, i say this might turn the start date to recommit yourselft to save america from thesehe vindictive, poor left tyrants, volunteer, donate, organize and

even reach out to others who may have followed the trail. explain how this reverberatesbi far beyond trump and how it threatens our ability to affect real political change in thethit fewer the my future.be today cannot be the end for the line of american exceptionalism. but it will be if we sit on her hands andon't o despair. so don't get mad, get motivated. when he may now from right outside of the court house, andy macarthur, former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district oy f new york, and jonathan turley, professor at g.w. law school and both s fox news contributor and alshao shannon bream host of "fox news sunday." andy come i want to start withyo you, theu question what the juo actually concluded and jonathan, you were touching earlier on this on fox. you made a point that the follow on or bump up crime to make this a felony was never specified int the jury returned that came in,f

and the actual verdict itself w although youas heard alvin bragg say this was -- he was convicted on essentially a conspiracy to subvert democracy. so, who is right here? unwhat was trump actuallys convicted of by unanimous jury?a >> well, the charges in the o indictment, and i guess formally what will go down in the judgment conviction, are as you said to come alora come of 34 counts of falsification of busis records with fraudulent intent to conceal another crimes that sounds dried, but what was pitched to the jury and reallyua was pitched by bragg publicly ia a very peculiar way of the day that theasic indictment was ret6 was basically a scheme to stealo the 2016 election. i sort of stumble over that because what is amazing to me about thisenie is bragg is anho

election denier. he wears it like a badge of arehonor, even as election denl is the worst thing you can beat in public life. i guess it depends on which election it is. but the reason i say it was veru peculiar from day one is usually the prosecutor has the narrativt that you want to present to the jury in the indictment. it becomes the framework that you plead the charges and peered in aetur very strange way here,e grand jury returned a fairly bare-bones indictment, which laid out the statutory elements ofd the business records crime. coterminous lee with that, bragl put out on his own, not for the grand juryis what he called thes this narrative about basically trump defrauding the united states out of what would otherwise have been the delight of having the hillary clintooon presidency yao and i don't mean to be too snarky about it but you just need to read it.

that is basically what it says. it relies explicitly on inadmissible evidence against trump. and it lies as a bedrock matter on this idea michael cohen pled guilty to campaign finance violations, and therefore, the fact that there was this conspiracy to violate the campaign laws and thereby suppress politically damaging information was like an established fact here that isid certainly how judge merchan treated it. >> laura: jonathan, if that is the case, why did judge merchann not allow the former fec commissioner to testify? if this was such an open and shut case of electionatio interference that was aided and abetted by the so-called falsification of business records by trump, even though he didn't personally do that, whyc not let the jury hear about what the fec really was thinking on this matter? >> well, you know, laura, the

problem i saw in that ruling isy not that he said it is histo responsibility to say what the law is. that is true.ha it is up to the trial judge to give those ins instructions. the problem is d he never gave e instructions. that is the instructions he gave did not go into any meaningful detail on what would constitute a federal election offense. it had some information, but it was in complete. that is why the defense wanted to bring in a legal expert. one of the most telling things that that expert would have brought in, smith, is he said, "look, not only is hush money not a campaign contribution, that has been long established,f but even if it were ain contribution, it could not have been part of a conspiracy to influence the selection becausel itec would have had to been actually revealed until after the election." filings so under -- that is under a matter of dates and filings in the ju neve regulations.

it is not a matter of interpretation here are the jury was never told that. so theju jury heard becausepr judge merchan allowed them to hear it, the prosecutor stated over and over again it was an established fact that election violation occurred here and that trump order those violations. that included in the closing arguments and many of us weren mystified because the judge had given an instruction that cohen's plea agreement could not be use sd tote refuse the guiltf trump. then josh steinglass repeatedly did that. judge merchan would do nothingy. about it. that is the reason i don't blame this jury. what they heard in that room ank the instructions they were given probably to some of them made it look like they have no choice but to convict. and that is the problem. >> laura: i'm not even sure how much it's worth unpacking-g this, shannon, because from the

get-go, this was a flawed and. novel application of this statute. we alln' know as lawyers whyst prosecutors don't likeat using novely il applications of statu, especially in high-profile cases because of the possibilityis likely possibility of a reversal. but in this case, they don't seem too concerned about getting reversed. they want to get to the result. >> yeah, if the result is to get it donete and get a coke conviction before th e election, then mission accomplished for alvin bragg. remember when he started talkine about this a year ago, thet, indictment coming together, there were people right, left, center who thought this was a weak case and thata bad decisiod a countable by alvin bragg. many on the left did not thinkhe would pay off. they knew it was novel, yet, he was willing to roll the dice. we have seen new york to curries and judges have not been t friendly to president trump so a it is a good jurisdiction to try something novel. yoanu are right, a good chance s

we have all talked about many t things, that this trump will put together an appeal. many things they can point to and even if they ultimately winb come it won't matter for the selection.pon ov it gets you months, months down, the road to get this point even if overturned but in the meantime, the biden/harris campaign a talking point about a d forntion peere president trump, he did an h interview with "fox news digital post quote and he's never had more support.fu we see the website is fund-raising arm is having trouble. is thaes ht because it is overls with people who want to weigh in now?d im it gives a fresh talking point in the real verdict comesg november 5th and i would imagine him to keep using that i languae over and over again until people if you don't like this verdict, i need yooughu to showp in november. >> laura: i want to go back to what i brought up with andy and also with jonathan. whatand alvin bragg said tonigt and whether that was borne out what the jury concluded, at

least what we know about the jury concluded about that bump up crime to the felony.n watch. speak withis this type of white-collar prosecution is coro what we do at the manhattan district attorney's office. in the 1930s, district attorney thomas dewey ushered in the era of the modern, independent, professional prosecutor.s in we are now nearly 90 yearsupon dedicated professionals in this office have built upon that fine tradition. donald j. trump is guilty of 34e counts of falsifying business records inme first degree to conceal a scheme to corrupt 2016 election. >> laura: andy, do we know that the jury actually unanimously concluded that? >> no, that is what they unanimously concluded is theou

business records convictionst .n bit about conspiracy to steal the election is alvin bragg's narrative about the conviction spirit but, you know, will come the victors write the history. w and if this gets upheld on appeal, i don't think it will but if it does, that is how itiw will go down in history. it certainly, laura, how whitby written in the press tomorrow.rn the one trying to think about this set going forward for anyone whoen comes along to challenge an incumbent like donald trump?. what precedent does this set? >> i t is not good precedent. and i think when people perhaps some celebrating tonight and the celebrations are occurring alltm around us, i think that some may look back at this and wonder what we have done because there is great damage here. you know, the reference toadde thomas to a was confusing, in my view.

it was maddening. thomas dewey ran against truman and he didn't try to put truman and jail. so i don't see bragg as a thomab dewey. l be part of ail very troubling legacy for not just bragg but for the new york legal system. it is a sad day. and i knowtrum that everyone basically fulfilled their narrative tonight, right? trump waicaln ths able to show s a political prosecution that gave him vere iny little chancen manhattan. i think that is pretty accurate. the other side fulfilled their narrative that he is a convicted felon here those narratives have existed for some time, and the politics of that we will have to see. but when it comes to the law, i think we also have to take that leap of faith and believe that we have a legal system that is stronger than all of this, that the people around here who are celebrating the demise of anrily

individual are going to be disappointed because it isn't necessarily a demise. trump did not look like he was surprised at all. some defendants look like they are heading to jail. he looked likeer he was headingo dinner. he really did not register it. this is going to be a long road. and we are going to see how it plays out.>> but i have faith in the legal system. >> laura: well, andy and jonathan, shannon, thank you all so much for your joiningdg me nw judge janine pyro host of the "the five." ce s judge janine, a scar on the i new york justice system and he failed to keep fighting to maintain the election will be the most important day in theju history of our country. and i want to givedg props to y judge because when i thought i sasew one or two jurors on that jury who come i don't know seem to me a little bit skeptical of the whole process, you said to me, "don't bank on it.

this is a new york jury commend thosule lawyers on the panel wod have a lot of influence on the rest of the jurors. "this is our area of expertise, listen to this. your comment on whatu you sawa today. >> you know, it is a sad day. i think america went over a cliff today. the indictment alone but now ths conviction of a former president of the united states on two dead misdemeanors that weretake resurrected to life by a judgerl who was not taken out of the ant wheel but literally picked outaa because of his anti-trump bias. and a case that was advancedja before the election as opposed to those defendants who were in jail waiting for trial, whose turn it is to go to trial. and the fact that they had a magic show where they literally resurrected these misdemeanors and brought them to live througi gha felony that none of us knewd anything about with a judgeth

saying "you don't have to be unanimous on the specificsatio whether it is a federal election campaign violation, a federal tax crime, or a bookkeepinwgo crime." which ofever know those it was, and of course, they have no jurisdiction over t ththose cases either, laura. and i can go on and on. but this was a magic show where they basically said, look over here! we have stormy daniels and isn't she interesting. look over here, we have michael cohen and he was convicted of federal election campaign violation!on c and david packer had a a nonprosecution with the federal election campaign people. and as ath matter of law, michael cohen is aiding and abetting emphysema locations as their defendant. so what the judge did, he gave the jury no choice, laura.ttin what he said his michael cohen when was aiding and abetting the same allegations this president is charged with or thisac defendant. so, the jury did what they thought they werd e supposed too and brought back a verdict.so

which is not only a sad day but what it does to me is someone who hat s done this for a living for 32 years, itpowe reminds mef the power of indictment, the power of a prosecutor. when we have george soros funded prosecutors and we have the department of justice and the biden administration dropping down prosecutors so they can assist the local das, we've got a kangaroo court. but make no mistake, i still believe in the system, laura, because i came up with it. this case is riddled with reversible error and it will be reversed but after the election. le a>> laura: how about, you can imagine -- given how this has gone i'm i thinksume people are wrong to assume, judge, they will not try to put trump eithec behind powers or basically geo-fence him and so he can't really campaign and he needs to ask permission every time hel genewants to do a rally and that

permission, i will get back to you next week here at or it will be tought probation until november 5th. i don't put anything past them. so you have more faith in the new york judicial system,ruly te perhaps, because you grew up in it when it was truly the great das who had a story and history of taking down the real criminals in the city, not this nonsense with this novel application of the law. but t i'm very concerned about this attempt to remove trump from the campaign trail when he is cutting through with minorit, voters, especially in places like chicago, philly, and maybe even l.a., which i know the trump campaign wants to do an event inh as. >> i think this judge said july 11th as sentencing date. a judge can do any number ofap things butpe this team will ask for bail, pending a deal and if not granted, they will go to appellatdoe division to get bai. this whole thing is about walking donald trump down.

laura, you were a trial lawyer and you an gd i both know you, o don't let a jury go for seven b days and say, "look, comare baco after you have a few barbecues over memorial day weekend." the whole intent was to keepstop donald trump lockdown. i agree they will do everything to stop him. but what they have done iss ou awakened a sleeping giant.pres everybody listens to the indictments out there but they have convicted a former president of the united states or probable future president of felonies based on a porn star. and a serial perjurer, michael cohen when. was the linchpin of this. you ask an ordinartheyy americag what did donald trump do? they will not be able to tell you.suppor our job right now is to continue to have faith and support this man as he goes forward because he is the strongest man i have ever met, laura. >> laura: i will repeat it, judge,al don't get mad, get motivated. judge, great to see you asco always pure joining me floridato

congressman, byron donalds. congressman might have to say, this is happening as i alluded r to with judge jeanine at the same time that we really see trump starting to eat away at tt the democrat's edge with minority voters. and i think they were in a pool, frothy panic about biden and harris going up against trumplem unleashed on the campaign trail. now, maybe they will have a little spring in their step even if their candidate does not. the your reaction tonight. >> they might have a spring today, but it will not last long because what happened in new york is a travesty of justice. everybody knows itt g.ti onyou have been talking to the elements of what occurred. i will not go down the elements. you have a situation where the justice system is prosecutingpe ciand persecuting cheap politicl u lorival. no american wants that. especially when yo u look at the joe biden has been, a complete disaster as presideng wet of the

united states. nobody is doing well except major democratic donors, they are doing great. everybody else'sdona suffering. when you look at donald trump, who had a great presidency, he wants to come back and be present and now you have alvin bragg and thest are other knuckleheads likee jack smith ot there trying to throw him in jail. the american people will see through thisd. it is not about republican/democrat anymore. it is about americans who need h better country you were to be d significantly needed federal president. joe biden cannot do that and only one man can, and that is donald trump here >> laura: this is a warning shot across the bow, congressman and even to people like you, don't even think about challenging the establishment going forward.peop i can't help but notice and maybe it has changed the lastap few minutes whpeo haven't come t to condemn what happened in the lower manhattan. i haven't heard from mitch mcconnell, again, in last film i can list the last 2. mitch mcconnell stands up rule

of law and all these great traditional picks in silence. thand every fair-minded american and leadership has t io know whe this will take the country and this i s way past trump. this is off of the cliff towardl lofull-blown totalitarianism if this is allowed to stay in an election year or frankly, any point where there is aif politil election in the office. if this is allowed to stand. everybody needs to speak out pe. >> you are 100% correct on this. to my republican colleagues who have been silent, what the radical left democrats are counting on is your silence and your submission. yocannu cannot bend it neat to s kind of stuff. i know the presidents website went down and donald j. trump.com, people support president trump. he is the only person in theat political arena that will standr for the american people and beat back against theseand establishments hacks who are

truly destroying our country. people have to stand up to the stuff and not just supportive oy donald trump but about saving america. if you allow stuff like thisre o occur in new york, it is note de going to stop there but only grow in our country and lead to the demise of america. i don't want to see that and i know president trump does not want to see that. that is why he will stand strong against histy foolishness and fight for theani country. >> laurabe: fairly typically anti-trump publications, never trumper cover on national review in 2016, even those publications are saying this trial was rigged in a stunning piece of "the national review"wa by jeff lowery said it waspr rigged from beginning to end and hopes of rigging for presidentialderm election. if this would have happened in cook county, h illinois, it wou be discomforting enough.ci but it happened in the greatestb city in the world and involves the campaign to become the most

powerful, political leader in the free world. this is even cutting through beyond me, beyond trump supporters. >> it is. i think you have too take a step back on this whole thing. whether you like donald trump oe don't like donald trump is a side note. we are talking about the system of justice and the institutions. we have been led by joe biden how they would be here to save our institutions and to save democracy. they are not doing any of that here they are destroying every institution in this country. it is going to take strong leadership to defeat them in november, which is what really matters.nomber that is the real verdict here, laura and mike laura, november 5th to make sure yourre voices are heard. if you want to sayot w land of e free and home of the borough s joe biden andi it is with common sense conservatives who have no problem standing up to wrongdoing when they see it.

d rich lowry wrote the column and other people need to stand up against this. this is wrong. >> xp one congressman thank youh so much. all right, vladimir putin is smiling tonight. that is the focus of tonight "angle." ♪ ♪ so just to recap, we know president trump was found guilty on all 34 counts of lower manhattan. if that is the case, i really thin k we have reached the subbasement ofstor u.s. history, this once unthinkable low. so even when it is sunny, by the way in forct nation's capitol wn abiden is speaking, always expt a storm of lies and stumbles with wide pains of irony moving through. >> we can't let vladimir putin win. we can't let vladimir putin win. >> laura: that is funny, andul putin must be laughing.n watching judge merchan run his courtroom like a crone he would

run his own in moscow.it whenever a viable threat to his power base emerges, just take it out with soviet style justice. i find a crime, any crime in churchiden and with it. this is what is facing biden'scu successor now, donald trump. >> this was a rigged, disgraceful trial.going to the real verdict is going to be november 5th by the people a man theyve know what happened here d everybody knows what happenedd here, you have a sorest-backed d.a. we didn't do anything wrong. i'm a very innocent man and it's okay i'm i'm fighting for heris country, i'm fighting for our constitution. our whole country is being rigged right now. this was done by the biden administration in order to move an opponent, a political opponentfigh, and i think it ist a disgrace.k yo and we will fight for our constitution. thank you very much. this is not over.

>> laura: he is absolutely right.sian remember when they used to accuse him of russian collusion? what they are doing is russian impersonation here. like any show trial, the jackals who cheered on the prosecution will indulge in the sickest of fantasies. close your eyes and everyonezing imagine trump at rikers. >> our amazing commissioner, she is prepared for whatever comes on rikers island. i'm pretty sure she would be prepared to manage and deal with the situation.e. >> those discussions with that situation? >> laura: see that woman on his left smiling, drinking and smiling? of course, what else would adamu be focusing on other than trump atat rikers? totally under control in manhattan. if you think the democratic party is trying to

figure out how to solve thete problems you care about and you've told every pollster that you told about, think again. their focus has been entirely oi holding on to power with an iron fist buren and that requiredlt they were to humiliate donald trump. tra of course with the ultimate goal of removing him from theocra campaign trail, which they hope the sentencing will actually do.n democrats come of course will salivate over the prospect that a man with secret service protection leading in most of the polls could be marched off to drip bill mike jail. bt won't have to debate after all. well, they fall asleep at night thinking class e felonies, they were punishable -- they do the math, what 136 years total? oh hundred filmic 134 counts ifn the maximum or trump and a orange jumpsuit? liberals once believed's evil civil liberties.on an over zealous prosecutors and the danger prosecutors totallytt

running out of control, but that was out the window. that was out the window with trump because trump broke them. trump revealed them here today, david neck kimura ofid "the washington post" saidel evn trump if he avoids jail may be sidelined from rallies or campaigning. saying trump would be clearing out-of-state travel with her probation officer. if trump home confinement atfl mar-a-lago resort authorities would likely have to work withoa counterparts in order to accommodate him. and liberals who once believed in protecting civil liberties,ll well, they love contemplating how trump on probation will alsu be subject to random searches.yh and even drug tests. look, if you have been wonderini when the biden campaign would actually kick intointo high gea, you are watching it.ou >> you create a bad guy, a

villain, and you tell the story of the villain, and you tell the story of the rescue that is h going to come at the end of this movie that we are talking about here and the end of the story in the movie is election day. >> laura: forget the economy might t forget the border, forgt the attacks on your freedom of forget they are coming for your gas-poweredou cars, your gas stove.er just think that the guy that you were going to pull the lever four, the guy who restored our economy in 2019 is now a convicted felon. >> what do they need to do? remind people who donald trump is. i think the trial, especially if y haa conviction hopes in that effort. they have a lot of clubs inno their bag. >> laura: a lot of clubs, not the language clubs, golf or cavemen,ople style? we didn't need to expose these people because they expose themselves. >> we need an american presidenu think about our problems and not

his own. i think donald trump is pretty tied up right now in the manhattan courtroom. >> laura: the outcome of the broad jury instructions that allow the juryry to reach on nop turleyic and andy mccarthy. the pick 6a, this is pick three. tax evasion, election interference ot r falsificationf records a circular charge making it completely flying in the face of what we understood to be the requirement of a truly unanimous verdict with a nonnovel application of the law that has never been used in this type of circumstance. how convenient. even msnbc saw a problem here. >> these are the jury instructions, write, 55 pagesi long.read this incredibly difficult to understand, even though i have read it four times over at thisc point am i still don't get it at certain points. by the way, you can't take it ta into the old race room.we

>> laura: myre best guess is thh two lawyers on the jury were probably instrumental to move the jury wherever they landed. now, this is my area of expertise, let me explain how this works. michael cohen is int 20 credibl. you can infer intent on donald trump. so, they moved to thei r verdict. well, this is only possible, remember, judge merchan crafted injury to make jury confusion so long, so broad that it really was almost impossible for a jury not to find trump was guiltyu ha here. but back to putin. he has to be pitching himself here. this is what they call the great american experiment and democracy?if but, in fact, biden protectors are just copying us.en if this were happening in any other country, what we have seen in that manhattan courthouse, the u.n. would be demanding an investigation.n but in this case, it is just

part of the biden campaign.n you saw michael cole angelovi standing next to alvin bragg when doing their victory lap. and this is, of course what the globalists are enthusiastically supporting. and that is "the angle" here joining me now newt gingrich, former speaker of the house, fox news political analyst here at noon, the verdict handed down, the president did not seem surprised by this as a historical matter, how significant is this? >> well i'm i think it is potentially very significant happdepending on what happens is full. you have now the most corrupt system going after asy political leader in american history. we have never seen anything like this. i think as ais couple of proble. one is that donald trump has grown in stature all through this experience. there are a number of people who say to me, they can't imagine

how he's been able to stand up and take this kind of a beating and keep coming. i think he is a bigger figure than he was when the trial started. it is one ofso the things the lt understands. i also think that the depth of ththe corruption is going to change things. by the way it doesn't solve any of biden's problems. people will go to theexpe grocery store and find it is too expensive anafd find they can't afford tfoo buy a house in pine castle and will start backfi up again fear they will find there are illegal immigrants. none of this will affect the long run. and runi think him as you were saying earlier, and it has happened ironically, the website for donald trump collapsed this afternoon because so many people went to it spontaneously. i think you are going to find people who are for trump are deeply enraged and feel not only is it a sad day, but an infuriating day. i think the amount of energy is

going to be available for trumpt is going to go up very, verygn dramatically. whility ime it is clear that yoa cognitive lead to pair there decaying president can barely figure out what he's doing. >> laura: well, newt come iof think the left doesn't quite understand that it is bitten off more than it can chew here.ider because trump campaign from the very beginning as an outsider. a lot of people say, you got into power. you are partof a of the now elie g.o.p. establishment of a sort. so you can't really claim to be an outsider anymore. you already were on the inside. he has the ultimate outsider now fighting against a corrupt establishment that will even subvert a justice system to cling to power cord at the samee time, the democrats say trumpit will never leave office. if elected, he will never leave office. what does it look like, newt

that biden will never leave office.every am >> remember this, every american has to remember a government big enough to take on a billionaire former president and front runner this year. a government that will take him on and destroy the rest of us here this really is a vote this fall between going back to the constitution with trump or the establishment of the dictatorship in which thl the pe who are corrupt tell theha restf the do it or else we will destroy you the way we destroyed trump. in that sense, this is extraordinarily important moment depending how the american people respond. personallyth, i believe deeply p the american people. i do not believe the american people want government to control them. i don't think the americangh t people want joe biden to dominate them. and i don't think they are dumb e that any ofiev this is fair here and so, ior

think the net advantage will beo over the next six weeks. enormous increase in strength for trump and a real problem for the left as it begins to realize that or may be nothing it can do to stop him from becoming president. >> laura: let's fast-forward to the debate from our a moment, newt, and how today's news makes them even more important hereg the way trump comport himself during the debates, given what has happened with this news. what would your best advice be, given that we know biden will try to egg trump on like you are a convicted felon. that will be the biden attack this debate,ook, no doubt about. >> look, my advice would be the smaller and petty year biden gets, the bigger and more historic trump should get. trump should go into the debate as the spokesperson for theas m american people come as a visionary who wants a betterd

futureno, as a man who deliverea far better paslvedt than joe bim and not get involved with mud wrestling with joe biden. remember, by the time you get there, you will have all of hunter biden's problems out in the open. you will havand e a lot of other things going on.at and frankly, little like reagan who said there you go begin in a his debate with carter. ate i would just ask as often a debate, have you been to a grocery store recently, joe?at you have any idea what the american people are suffering? i would go back to that over and over again because that is the strongest, single condemnation a among we have a project called ementhe americas majority projet that does tremendous amount of polling.. african-americans, latinos, asian americans, it doesn't matter. everybody in america is hurting financially and trump ought tohg be calling and saying i did everything i could to stop it. and i think we will get a new coalition.

trump's is running ahead never grew.n an he is stronger now since eisenhower with l african-americans. that big of a differenceef. >> laura: and that has the left freaking out here at newt,s thank you as always. as i said, this is the real election interference. they accuse trump of that, but that is what they are doing. it was always about getting trump off of the trail. they know how powerful he is and just arguing that, remember what you felt like and remember what you were like in 2019. how is it working out now? they did not want that to be the narrative here they think they a flipped the narrative tonight. his sentencing will be july 11, the start of the republican convention.rlie "angle" will be in milwaukee an i mentioned this briefly earlier, it is important everyone tonight understandse j magnitude of what the jury just decided.l n trump face is not just jaile

time, but probation and the probation could involve home confinement, drug tests, random searches and very importantly, travelrg restrictions. joining me now sol wisenberg former deputy counsel fox news contributor is landro law clerk and justice go lia thomas and l also former ambassador to mexico, chris, let's start with you. i wanted to believe and i was dealreally idealistic in believg so that there was one sure who saw through what was going on, but it was a unanimous verdict,s at least on the falsification part of it. your reaction tonight. >> you know, laura, as a lawyers and an american, today is a goon day of great sadness and shame for me. i feel this is not what thisjudg country is about. i think this proves once again

that if a judge wants a jury to convict him of the judge is mirrored of ways of making that clear to the jury. and i think judge merchan's name will go down in the annals of american history as the epitome of a crooked and biased judge. that guy pulled a merchan. this is where we are in our country. i think it is a really sad day. i think the point you just made about thricte potential for restrictions on trump, you know, just portends even read her mischief as election season. moves on. this will not be one and done. they will try to control this man throughout the whole campaign.r judge merchan and whatever the probation officer can decide -- >> laura: can affect the whole future of the country! yeah, hingi mean, sol, that isao something chris touched on. a probation officer in

west palm beach working with a probation office in new york could have outsized influence n the future of the united states of americae . our relationship with china, what would that look like? our trade law, what will that look like? our economic system, what would that look like? our border, will that be enforced question whether a resident can campaign were not.n your reaction tonight. >> i don't think his political opponents are that stupid. they werk e stupid enough to brg this prosecution, but i don't think they are that stupid.ppen i think it will backfire tremendously. i just don't a think iiot is liy to happen. keep in mind in addition to being able to appeal a deeply flawed trial, he can in the state system, i suppose like the federal system, the strengthgt of your appeal can affect to thy conditions of bond you arehis under. in the unlikely condition they

tried to restrict his involvement like that i don't think it will fly. keep in mind also, the highest court in new york reversed the e conviction of harvey weinstei. can you imagine anybody more unpopular and more hated in new york and harvey weinstein, u but that court reversed the conviction based upon improper: evidenceca presented. >> laura yea: years later. >> that's true. >> laura: that will not helpm, trump that is years from now spirit >> yeah, it will not -- he can't help him and thel an campaign trail that is why i do not believe they will try to pul anything like that. also might have to say one thing, others have talked about it, but this is so orwellian.gr thomas deweyea was a great prosecutor in the 1930s and up '40s, the epitome of trust and a towering figure in the law.

it is the antithesis ofhave everything thomas duy stood for to have felt this case -- he never would have brought this case. he is spinning in his grave over this. what an outrage to quote and tried to associate yourself witn thomas dewey. s whenra: the best i that reporter if youg can calla reporter who asked the questionl of bragg tonight, saying, "how does it feel?" are you kidding me! what is your favorite color,idic what did you have for dinnerl last night? ridiculous t questions. the legal minds over msnbc, chris, think this verdict mayhe set other legal issuesre in motn here to watch. >>ha there is some thought that the supreme court may have been waiting for this verdict, and we will see if that isn't explanation for the delay of whether there are really five'sr justices for intent of undermining the public's right to apeed speedy trial and janua6

case. >> laura: chris, he says a lot of dopey things but was the court waiting, john roberts? amy coney barrett were waiting for judge merchan and the jury? this is just a fever dream thesh people have. >> thayot somebody has no idea w the court works or at least ist willfullmey putting on a show there. i may say this though, judge merchan show trial isto probably the strongest evidence to buttress trump's claim in the supreme court that president lewis need immunity from criminal prosecution to do their jobs. >> laura: bingo! >> even for official acts, bute this shows that you don't have to imagine hypotheticals. this is right there in front ofo the justices.

you know, this is not a slippery slope of what might happen. this is unfolding right in front of us.o >> laura: sol, do you agrees dowith chris' point that this di prove or show how the abuse can be laid out in a state criminal proceeding against a former president in an election year i when he's running again? >> welcome i do, but of course, not even president trump has claimed immunity for acts he committed when he was not president. but i want to talklisten t about of all, and nobody should listen to anything andy wiseman says, he is a complete ignoramus when ve tit comes to constitutional law. was universally scorned -- i have to tell you he did that enron prosecution and universally scorned by the defense bar here my democrats and republicans here at about also keep in mind, this is forgotten when people talk about arthese trials.

trump phase two federal prosecutions, and this is all starting 2023-2024. two federal prosecution the e. jean carroll libel suit, the tish james civil fraud trial, anl d the alvin bragg prosecutin here or there is federal defendant anywhere in the country that wouldn't get sympathy from a federa l court saying, "i can't prepare for five trials in one year. i have to have a continuous.prop so the idea that there is anything unusual or improper about a delay is ridiculous whea it was jack smith who delayed until 2023 before even indicting president trump. it is just ridiculous. it is this whole idea of duty-bound to try him before the 2024 election. >> laura: proving that it is political. it is not just a regular olde run-of-the-mill legal case thats really needs to be resolved.chri

as to be done before the election. they reveal, sol and chris.vi s,lee zeldin, new york candidate for governor, former new york congressman mike davis, former law clerk to justice for search. leak himt i you announced on twitter that you just secured a very, very large donatior n for trump after that verdict was ha. can you tell anything more? >> 800,000 donation tome president trump and jointht the fund-raising committee here that amount is something you can tell the max donation was larger and i think the donation would have been larger. i so someone else post on social media how they are d ondonating $300,000 immediate. i am sure people are donating $5, $10. whe donald j. trump.com, thed we president's website and you can donate right now .

i know that it went down but it's back up. people v are stepping up across the country understanding the real verdict will bed november 5th. >> laura: mike, you and i have been talking about this law fair for years. we know thisy. was a possibility and i held out hope there was one brave juror who could see through this. but i was wrong.n and your reaction tonight, given thickly over at some of the other nets. >> today's victory from this partisan, corrupt rigged trial just guaranteed president trump selection on november 5th of this year.an and to president biden and his biden democrat goons cheering this, this is a victory because you guaranteed president trump or win in a landslide. >> laura: lee zeldin but do>> you agree without? that this is the straw thatmo

broke the moderates back when it comes to supporting trauma? a lot of peoplheare you have thm come i hear them, "welcome i just don't like him. he's too brash. i don't t like his tone. he talks too much about the 2020 election post quote. whatever it is, they were hesitant to support him but was this ultimately a major mistake by the left and a huge overreach into them are really and election year? >> absolutely. there ar e people who are postingfo on social media about they have never voted for president trump in primaries, general elections ever. but now they will walk on glasse for him here the intensity of resident trumping supporters and the people who have always supported him will support him more than ever. people who independent-mindedth folkats who didn't like president trump or vote for him inpoli the past said this was ah political prosecution, but indictment firstenyo came out ar ago. but then when you see the bias

of the judge, the jury doninstructions and the fact we sitting here tonight and we still don't know what the underlying charges that wasat allowed president trump to get convicted, that just is not pass the smell test the. you can't spin this right-side up. i think the damage is going tove be great. i think it will have downtown consequences aes well. opt my message for anyone optimistic as it relatemorrs to november, u need t o wake up tomorrow andno work harder.d you can't take his seat back and say,e good to go, everything w be fixed, no, work order. >> laura: mike might do you agree with what sol said earlier that he doubts that merchan will really be tough in the sentencing because it will politically backfire to try toho him in and for campaigning like he is a flight risk. how ridiculous would that be?is do you agree, sol?

i don't have any optimism what v6 will do. >> this democrat judge merchan is corrupt, partisan and illegally donated to biden's campaign. we just know he watem.s reprimad by the judicial system here that did not deter him at all from his daughter is raising millions of dollars off of this unprecedented him a criminal trial over which judge juan merchan's presiding. that requires his recusal under new york statute. >> laura: so you are saying -- do you think -- i know, we know all that, but do you think he's going to be especially tough in the sentencing oar will he just probation without any restrictions? >> i would not be surprised ifp judgine juan merchan puts president trump in prison or the minimum home confinement with very strict probation. >> laura: higher grade. >> that hobbles trump's to run

for the presidency. >> mxp when i think i agree with hughley, mike, she federal sin fox news contributor modeling hemingway, fox spectator fox news contributor, molly, the p campaign just confirmed he wir tonight and same back to the mid president trump will not at the n tosham stop the movement this campaign t o save the nation, molly, how important is it that he winpenes and wins big in novr given what happened today? >> that is only reasonable response to what has happened today. robathis kangaroo court convictn will not save biden and probably not going to her trump. it might even help him. what democrats have done to the country with this law fair and l running show trials and using courts from abusing courts to go after political opponents, that endoes real damage to the counti it is not necessarily the end of the world of people fight back

against it, but they do need to fight back against it because it is that serious. what people realize how rule of laerw has held theo republic together and enabled us to live in peace here this democrat assault on rule of law is truly an x essential threat l to theau country. >> laura: what happens if af critical mass of americans just no longer believe the rule of or law, the justice system means anything anymore? what happens to our republic? >> it is a very dangerous and a very terrible thing to happen for country, laura. and i don't want to sound like i'm being a devil's advocate here, but i'm very concerned about the fact that we have been through all of these things in recent years that we thought americans who rise up and defenr their own freedoms would speak for their own liberty. especially during the pandemic and especially during the lockdowns. we were disabused of that notion in a way tha t i think really

depressed a lot oft us here andn i'm worried that in this momentt americanais may not understand e risk that they are entertaining here. if donald trump is in any way p restrain froarm being able to campaign by this partisan judge in new york for the presidency as someone who held that office before could very well hold it again is currently the leading candidate and somehow this new york judge can buy for upy eijust in prison him effectivelo within a jail or within his own house, that is something that is unacceptable. it is something that is beyond b banana republic.we it is something that is the laughingstock, not just of the nation, but of the world. we cannot accept it and it cannot happen.arinot >> laura: mollie come i saidpa before smiling tonight. we have to fight putin.o panetta was on fox earlier saying we have to fight putin wi

have to beat putin. i'm sitting here, is he paying attention what is happening in new york? does he get the parallels here? come on, leon! to t>> one of those things we u thto think that separated us frm the soviet union is wedo didn'to the show trials.m, y but it shows there needs to be p strong response from any republican leadership that happens to be awake or sentient melyat this hour that they needn fight extremely hard and they need to care abouty as rule of w and democracy in thimuchs countf as much as they care about in ukraine. >> laura: when we look at the sweep of history over the last , i reallyight years maintain that this is a warning shot that the left is firing across the bow. you try to challenge the establishment, and we will take you down. >> they have ramped this up to such a degree that i think a lot

of old garb republicans never really entertained here they thought that they could continue this level of politeness and giving along, having some kind f coming together centrism as they call it. that simply is not something we can entertain anymore in this currentot environment. they are trying to jail the current leading candidate for the presidency of the united states of america. thatwe is not something we can accepttt on any level with a republican or democrat. it is absolutely abhorrent. >> laura: here is my question tonight, liz cheney, met romney, mitch mcconnell, all the republicans mike you might not have liked trump, but do you like this? is this america to you? mollie and ben, thank you. that is all for us tonight. just follow me on social media and >> this is not what this country should be doing to political