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israel and hamas coming as the northern front remains active. dozens of rockets fired by hezbollah into northern israel. >> dana: trey yengst, thank you. we appreciate it. take care and be safe. >> bill: before we go we'll sneak this in real quick. quarterback sneak. want to thank joe borrow for the foundation they're running. they raised $1 million last weekend for the joe burrow.org is the website there supporting mental health issues and food inse insecurity. they watch "america's newsroom" every single day. keep going, number nine. shout out to you today. >> dana: the bengals have a great season. i bet you were the crowd favorite. harris faulkner is next. here she is. >> harris: we begin with breaking news. opening statements in hunter biden's federal gun trial have
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been going on one hour so far. the jury, six men and six women and they'll legally decide what happens with president biden's son, hunter. he is charged with three felony counts related to gun possession. yet another historic legal proceeding in full swing now. this time the half century of the biden family political power is looming over the entire trial. i'm harris faulkner and you are in "the faulkner focus." hunter arrived for day two just before 9:00 a.m. east coast time. trey gowdy with a take on the two high-profile trials in recent weeks. >> i think if it had been donald jones or donald trump or donald thomas we wouldn't have been in new york. if this were hunter jones and smith we would be talking about something else this morning. >> harris: friends and even
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famous family members were there by hunter's side during yesterday's jury selection and back again today. who among them? first lady jill biden. and hunter's half sister ashley. multi-millionaire hollywood attorney kevin morris. the nickname sugar brother. not exactly spelled that way. he has that nickname for bankrolling hunter in times of trouble to the tunes of millions of dollars. he said he didn't expect to be paid back. president biden is not attending but showed support with a statement quote, as the president, i don't and won't comment on pending federal cases but as a dad, i have boundless love for my son, confidence in him and respect for his strength. in "focus" now former acting attorney general matt whitaker. first to senior national correspondent rich edison. >> we heard from the prosecution
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and defense team is up. defense attorney for body is arguing hunter did buy a small handgun and scrutinizing the form that the prosecution said he lied on saying he wasn't a user of drug. he said the form asked if you are a user of drugs, not if you have ever been a user of drugs. the law prohibits someone actively a user of drugs. that's the back and forthright now. the prosecution emphasized hunter biden's drug use from the time he bought and possessed the firearm in 2018. prosecutors played an excerpt from his audio book where he discussed his drug use from that period pointing to text messages about his drug use one week before he bought that gun and showed images hunter took of crack on his phone. another strong showing from the first family, hunter arrived 30 minutes before the trial began. a few minutes later his sister and friend who bankrolled much of the defense pulled up and
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jill biden arrived for her second day in the courtroom. hunter faces three felonies in connection with the 2018 gun purchase. prosecutors accuse him of lying on the federal form that asked if he was a drug user and possessed that gun for a week and a half. prosecutors signaled they may call hunter's ex-wife and beau biden's widow in a relationship with hunter. she discovered the gun and threw it in a trash can. one juror was dismissed. we don't know the reason why and don't know if the juror was part of the 12 or the four alternates that have also been selected for this jury. harris. >> harris: all right, rich, thank you very much. matt whitaker former acting attorney general and legal surrogate to former president donald trump. great to see you. i want to start with what we've seen. we don't know why one juror was dismissed. sometimes it can be for a
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personal reason. we won't try to read the tea leaves. half are gun owners. what else do you know that you think is important. >> i think it's very interesting that a couple of these jurors also had substance abuse family members. that will obviously help them understand what may have been going on. remember, as someone who tried cases as a prosecutor and defense lawyers one of the things you tell the jury is they don't check their reason and common sense at the door. so, harris, they can bring those experiences of whether it's dealing with a family member with addiction, whether it's being a gun owner or otherwise, and understand maybe a little better the context. but at the same time they are sworn to focus only on the facts that are presented at trial and not bring anything from the public arena they might research on their own. >> harris: that's really interesting because i think that
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what we are learning, at least have in the last few weeks, is people come as people. >> yep. >> harris: all right. >> they do. >> harris: the son of a sitting president has never before faced a criminal trial. miranda devine writes joe biden's presence over the trial serves as a warning to political enemies and calls the power of the biden family undeniable. the same take even echoed by legacy media, nbc news writes it was impossible to escape the presence of the first family and history hovering over the courtroom. that's interesting. you can't get past it when the first lady walks in. i realize they are family. but she is a certain type of family member. she celebrated her birthday yesterday while in court with hunter. happy one to her. >> yeah. this is, i think, one of the biggest challenges in the contrast between what happened in new york city over the last several weeks and what is happening in delaware.
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this is very much a home court advantage for the biden family and having jill biden as the first lady walk into court and sit behind hunter sends a very clear message to that jury, who are again citizens of delaware. federal court in delaware and i think it's much different than what happened in new york city. a little bit of an away game. and obviously democrats have permeated the judge and jury box and a different sense of which field they're playing on. >> harris: the entitlement of being not just a citizen and not just a voting person in the state of democrat, that you can't get over the fact they are so well-known even before he gets into the white house. vice president, president. they are part of that community there in delaware. >> they are. but remember the reason we got here in the first place, harris,
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is because this judge noreika presiding over this case rejected the sweetheart plea deal the u.s. attorney's office was trying to slam through where he will get probation and misdemeanor for the gun and tax charges. now he is facing felonies in two different jurisdictions. i think obviously the more serious charges are the tax charges in california. but these gun possession charges and illegal purchase of a gun are also equally serious. >> harris: i want to remind everybody how we got here. i found it in the "washington post." i thought it was interesting. he was dating his brother's -- his late brother's ex-wife, hunter biden, and hallie biden awoke on an october morning after hunter biden had slept over for the night. while sleeping she dropped off the kids at school and returned to rummage through the truck he had parked outside. according to the "washington
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post" report, she was anxious as to what the admitted drug addict might be hiding. when she found a newly purchased colt cobra 38 handgun she was hit by a wave of anger and fear. i won't go on how she ended up at a dumpster to dispose of this. that's the journey that got us started on this one charge against him. you see the timeline of hunter biden's indictment there up on the screen. hallie biden, the second thing there takes the gun and tosses it in a trash can. she suspected because she was living with someone who was using illicit drugs, matt. she knew things were bad. so she went looking to see what she would find. how would that get into this case? what would that type of knowledge, those facts and they are facts, what would they do inside of a case like this? >> well, they are going to be mesmerizing for the jury.
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you will have beau biden's widow who was hunter biden's girlfriend at the time testified to all of this. and tell all the details, including how she discarded the gun and then you are probably going to have testimony about how that gun was then found in the trash by somebody that was digging through the trash. so you had all of that together and it is going to be a compelling story for this jury. and i would expect -- most of these facts to your point are uncontroverted. i don't know how abbe lowell is going to defend this because essentially the elements of the crime are simple. that's one of the things about this case. we won't be talking about jury instructions. this is a well worn path to justice in this case compared to new york city still debating what crime trump was convicted of. >> harris: the argument for hunter biden has been well he had just gotten out of rehab and he had been a drug user. this woman was so worried about
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it she went through the man's truck while he was sleeping. he clearly still had some issues with drugs. just according to hallie biden and her behavior. congressional republicans taking on the practice of law fare after former president trump's new york verdict. house judiciary chairman jim jordan proposed a new appropriations package that would defund federal prosecutors at the helm of recent politically charged investigations including special counsel jack smith, manhattan district attorney alvin bragg and fulton county district attorney fani willis. a new op-ed highlights the power of prosecutors. state and federal criminal cases or laws as limitless as the stars in the heavens, about the worst thing a prosecutor can do a prosecute people instead of crimes. when a prosecutor says, quote, vote for me, i'll find a way to get mr. x, end quote, he is abusing his power.
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who wants to live under such a regime? case in point, new york attorney general letitia james who brought that massive civil lawsuit against former president trump earlier this year. watch. >> i will never be afraid to challenge this illegitimate president when our fundamental rights are at stake. important everyone understand the days of donald trump are coming to an end. >> i look forward to going into the office of attorney general every day suing him, defending your rights, and then going home. >> harris: so what's so helpful about that you saw how far back those dates went. july of 2018. we know when the case was adjudicated. matt. >> this is the biggest concern about all of these cases. i applaud jim jordan. right now merrick garland is testifying before the select committee on weaponization. i watched some of the ridiculous
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answers that this current attorney general gave. we cannot target individuals and then try to assign crimes because that ends up with a complete system where the rule of law is no longer respected, where it doesn't matter what the law says. that there is no equal protection under the law and we'll devolve into chaos and anarchy in a matter of complete power plays as to who is politically powerful and who is politically unfavored. that's a real dystopian future the left wants. i hope congress can pass some of these laws to defund the clear weaponization of the department of justice. >> harris: dystopian and bah nano an republic-like. the case came years after she said those things about going after trump. matt whitaker, great to have you. we have a couple of things going on today legally. we appreciate you. thank you. progressive democrats ready with a boycott now and protests over
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israeli prime minister netanyahu's moves. upcoming congressional address is what is going to be next on his list. the democratic divide on display again. the headache for president biden continues. republican senators are holding back on biden's sudden action at the border. >> this is a conversion based on the proximity of the next election and sinking poll numbers and we think it deserves to be called out for what it is. >> it's a little late. >> harris: it wasn't too long ago the president said he did all he could, he didn't have the power to do more and then he said he would take executive action. then he said i don't know if i have the power. and now he is back. congressman mike waltz in "focus" next.
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>> harris: we want to go outside of the hunter biden trial because our kerri urbahn is able to step out. they are on a quick break. she was just inside the courthouse now. kerri, first of all, this got started pretty quickly today.
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tell us -- catch us up, if you would. >> yeah. i got to say it is a lot clearer being here than it was sitting in the overflow room during the trump trial. the prosecution laid out a clear case, defense is presenting the evidence why they don't think the prosecution can prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. i thought it was interesting this is how the prosecution ended their opening argument saying this. addiction may not be a choice, but owning a gun while using drugs and lying about it is. and that was the theme they presented throughout their opening argument. this was a choice that hunter biden was a prolific drug user saying they have evidence and testimony from witnesses and his own words that indicate he was at times smoking crack every 15 to 20 minutes both before, during and after this period which he purchased the gun. they have a pretty devastating list of witnesses, harris, including his ex-wife and two
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ex-girlfriends. in addition to the salesperson that actually sold him the gun appeared watched him fill out that form. the defense, their argument is also pretty straight forward and they say that he abused alcohol during that time but not necessarily drugs. now i did think it was interesting that it turned out that hunter biden drove his father, joe biden's cadillac to a cell phone store across the street from the gun store before he chose to purchase that gun. i don't know that i had heard that or realized that before. he actually drove his father's car to get there when he bought that gun. another thing that the defense raised was that they say he lacks the intent to deceive. when he checked that box on the atf form saying he wasn't a drug user, it is because they say he was not using drugs during that time. despite the fact, though, that the prosecution says they have in their possession which we reported on before, a pouch that
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contained cocaine residue. that apparently hallie, beau's widow and hunter biden's ex-lover put the gun into before she put it in the garbage can because she was afraid hunter would use that gun to harm himself or others while using drugs. nothing surprising in the opening and closing arguments other than the black cadillac point. we know why we're here and we'll see how this goes. >> harris: the part about what he was doing and all of that and how it was a little bit of alcohol. that "washington post" piece i have been pointing to this hour that has hallie biden, who was dating hunter, his deceased brother's ex-wife, she detailed having to go through his things, rummage through his belongings because she was so concerned about the drug use and all the things that are described that he was going through. she did it in a flurry of
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frantic. they were going -- she was going through the truck trying to find whatever he might have hidden. didn't know it would be a gun. fascinating to fit this in. kerri, thank you for taking a moment as they took a break in the hunter biden trial. >> thank you. >> president biden: it's time for republicans in the congress to show a little courage, to show a little spine. i made it clear we need congress to make changes to fix what is a broken immigration system. >> harris: you do realize nothing has changed since he said he didn't have the power to do what he should do and that is put some of those policies that were in place when former president trump exited office. he flipped the switch, biden did. and this is what we got. a biden border crisis of epic
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proportions. none of that was true. he knew he had the power. he didn't have to wait on congress. you have know how we know? it is about to do something today. it may not be what everybody hopes it will be but he definitely has the power to fix what's going on. he is set to sign an executive order at 2:00 p.m. eastern. he says he wants to address the asylum processing at the border. the measure would shut down asylum requests daily. the daily average of them based on encounters hitting 2,500. it would not reopen until that number dips to 1,500. that means the order could go into effect immediately. of course, it's presidential action that he has always had. of course, the politics are hot right now so he has to do something. republican senators have this to say. >> president biden is in trouble
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politically. he gave in to the loon wing of his party and he dissolved the southern border. >> they have opened the front door and when the room gets too crowded they open the back door and it is a shell game. >> he could have stopped this every single day of his presidency. >> i talked to president trump this morning and he says this is a scam. >> this is too little, this is too late. the american public knows it is too late. this stunt won't save your political life. >> harris: several democrat mayors of border towns are set to join president biden at the white house for today's executive order signing. the mayor of eagle pass, texas, is not one of them. he says, this is a quote, did they invite me? no. i was outspoken against the white house when we were getting slammed with illegal immigration, end quote. the pictures continue to tell the story of the biden border crisis. fox cameras capturing remarkable video of a border patrol agent trying to control hundreds of
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illegal immigrants. this was last night, by the way. many can be seen taking pictures and selfies of their own at the border celebrating their illegal arrival. breaking our sovereignty laws. republican congressman mike waltz of florida, first of all, your quick thoughts on what biden is about to do. >> i think too little too late, harris. aptly describes what he is about to do and what he could have done years ago. but even with what he is about to do in this executive order, if you look at the thresholds he is talking about, i guess it's still okay at 2500 a day to allow nearly a million people across our border? that's okay? if we go above that now it's not? it is still a disaster. that's one. two, so much attention on our southern border, absolutely should be, it is out of control. but a lot of these crossings are
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coming across our northern border as well especially those that we're seeing on the terrorist watch list. i just got a briefing yesterday from the national counter terrorism center, from the f.b.i. and from dhs to the intel committee and the threat levels are through the roof. merrick garland is now saying that, chris wray has been saying that. i wish they would tell mayorkas and the president. i don't know. but there is another terrorist attack i fear that is going the happen soon. we know a lot of these individuals, hundreds are being facilitated by terrorist networks around the world. and if it's not imminent, it is darn near close. >> harris: and that terror watch briefing that you got yesterday you say that now the northern border is in the mix. look, we have known this has been spreading but i had not heard it put in those terms. if the cap will be 2500 a day,
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congressman, that means 2,499 daily, they could really kind of judge the numbers, but go just below 2500, that is 17,493 weekly, that's more than 900,000 a year. i don't know if that moves the needle as much as it should at this point. >> and we know the cartels can do that and will do that. they are very sophisticated. we saw them shift from texas once thankfully governor abbott took action. we saw them shift the migrant flows to arizona and california and reduce it just below biden's very publicized threshold. they still get 900,000 a year. >> harris: on friday in honor of the 80th anniversary of d-day you'll lead a parachute jump in normandy. you did it five years ago to honor the 75th anniversary.
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quick words from you. >> this is honoring our forefathers, the youngest that we know of will be 96. the oldest 107. this will be the last big anniversary with the actual world war ii veterans and what better way to take veteran members of congress, bipartisan, and go honor them by jumping out of an 81-year-old plane with original gear. i promised the speaker the parachutes are new. the majority is safe. >> harris: god bless you for do this and god bless them for all they did for our nation. president biden is getting more aggressive when it comes to former president trump's conviction. i thought he couldn't talk about these things. or wouldn't. they are pushing the convicted felon if it backfires on the president. house gop lawmakers are pressing dr. fauci for answers. we saw the hearing yesterday. i'm hoping they do something on
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>> harris: reverberations today. republicans in the hearing yesterday with anthony fauci focused on the origins of covid. we carried it live this hour. fauci's confusing and wrong medical advice for the entire nation were on full display and they were challenged. fauci contradicted himself on several previous statements about the pandemic and threw the cdc under the bus on covid guidelines. >> what was your relationship with the cdc when you saw a
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regulation which was not based in the current science? >> well, when i say was not based in science, i meant a prospective clinical trial to determine whether six foot was better than three, was better than ten. >> you didn't feel an obligation to go to them and say americans aren't going to trust us >> we had discussions at the white house about that. the cdc's decision it was their decision to make and they made it. >> mask mandates for children under five scientific evidence supporting that? >> there was no study that did masks on kids. >> are all objections to covid vaccinations ideological bullshit, dr. fauci? >> no, they are not. >> why was it so important that the virus had not started in a lab? >> we don't know where it started and that's the reason why i keep an open mind. >> do you agree there was a push to downplay the lab leak theory? >> not on my part.
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>> really? >> really. >> wow. >> did you ever conduct official business via email? >> to the best of my recollection and knowledge i have not done that. >> harris: democrats railed against republicans and what they call a conspiracy against fauci. politics were on full display yesterday. dr. marc siegel is a professor of medicine and fox news contributor. all right. six feet of distancing, masking and outdoor and indoor conditions, masks that you buy at the store don't work after he said they did. we were on a rollercoaster. >> not that it was never studied on social distancing. it was studied for the 1918 flu. did i tell him? he told me that on the radio multiple times. it was absolutely common knowledge that it was the wrong virus. in other words, they
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superimposed rules that were applied to flu. we don't know if they work well for flu but they don't work well for coronavirus. let me tell you something that's really important here. it all fits together. if you don't entertain the lab leak theory, you don't understand why for the first time in history, we have a respiratory virus that spreads asymptomatically. dr. robert redfield pointed that out early on and said we need to change the public health paradigm. he told me that yesterday. they had to change the whole paradigm because we were always looking for viruses that when you are coughing and sneezing and when you have a fever. this one was spreading when you had no symptoms. so the six-foot rule didn't matter. the masks didn't matter because covid was all over the room as they found in the university of nebraska where i visited in february of 2020. they already knew it in february of 2020. all of these rules were superimposed on the name of science, the name of science, but there wasn't a science to
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back it up. >> harris: fauci spent so much time on television, kayleigh mcenany, former press secretary and i were talking during the breaks and commercial. explain to me how it is that you go on television that many times knowing lessons learned previously and don't tell the public. >> you need to. if you are not clear in your messaging, you spread fear. >> harris: he was masterful at that. >> it spreads fear. people feel it will happen to them. if you put a mandate in place and if you don't comply what will happen to you? we wanted to know what happened in china. that made everyone afraid. why should that narrative be suppressed? i don't think he was really being directly honest yesterday. he was much more committed and still is to the idea this came from a wet market. that lab never got enough attention. and we were financing -- i don't
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care what experiments we were financing in that lab, harris, whether this particular one was financed or another one. we had financing going to eco health alliance and peter daszak and should have been highly suspicious from the beginning. redfield was, others were, but not dr. fauci wasn't suspicious enough. >> harris: he is the most uncurious scientist i've ever seen. he is not curious and representative mccormick from georgia was saying yesterday in that very tough round of questioning about why weren't you seeing any patients? why didn't you go see the people suffering? so that you could better understand what ventilators would do and better understand what could happen to the human body under the conditions of a novel coronavirus? he didn't see patients and wasn't curious enough to do that. you went to a nebraska containment center, both i believe the first time you went is when we had the ebola that
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broke out in texas and you went again. we know how to contain things. he knew there was a problem. there had to be at least potentially at a lab. we have them here. >> we were working with our labs here with labs there. there was a coordinated effort to manipulate bat coronavirus called gain-of-function research. it was going on with our own scientists and he knew. nih was funding it. we learned when we were on the covid wards that respirators could cause problems and used a technique with less oxygen. i had my purple gloves on from nebraska. >> harris: we have been covering it since day one. a lot of what he said challenged common sense and if we hadn't been under the pressure of watching people suffer maybe we could have gotten some things right without dr. fauci. people believed in him. >> you needed to start off by saying i don't know.
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you have to say i don't know, i'm learning about this virus and i'm curious. >> harris: thank you. breaking news the hunter biden gun trial is back in session right now. prosecution just swore in their first witness, erika jenson, an f.b.i. agent. she is expected to testify about hunter biden's text messages, some of which depict illegal drugs. and former president trump will hit the campaign trail this week for the first time since his conviction. supporters say the verdict will not change voters' minds. >> people will have some concerns about it but it won't determine this election. i think at the end of the day democrats have overplayed their hand. in world history when someone persecutes a political enemy simply because they are a political enemy it usually backfires and creates a movement. >> harris: political impact of this historic trial. power panel next. ♪
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>> harris: former president donald trump returns to the campaign trail after his trial kept him in new york in a
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courtroom for six weeks. he is planning to hit two battleground states in four days. arizona and nevada went for biden in 2020. now polling shows trump with the edge, the rcp, real clear politics polling average has his up by four to five points in both of those critical states. campaign cash spigot is on full blast. they hauled in more than $140 million in pay. $53 million in 24 hours after the verdict. senator blackburn with this. >> what the american people have seen play out is not equal treatment. and they are looking at this and saying i value my freedom, i value the opportunity for my children to live their version of the american dream and these people are trying to take it away. so they are showing up and they are backing president trump in
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record numbers. >> harris: the senator goes on in a new opinion editorial trump's conviction is our last wake-up call. vote like your future depends on it. power panel now, david avella, patrick murphy. great to see you. david, vote like your life depends on it. your future. >> absolutely. you see in this upcoming trip you have a president trump who is going out and campaigning in states he did not win in 2020, whereas you have yet to see president biden go and try to campaign in states to try to get a victory where he didn't get one in 2020. this is a president in biden who is seeking a campaign strategy while he sits at 36% approval. this latest strategy of let's call him a convicted felon is biden willing to take that to the debate stage and use that term on the debate stage? because you know what that
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requires? that requires him to be a quick thinker because when president trump comes back at him will he have the ability to respond? this is a president who a few months ago was talking about having conversations with dead people. do you think he can go into a debate stage and make -- call trump a convicted felon and handle the response he will get from president trump? >> harris: let's put that question to patrick. patrick. >> harris, absolutely. these two gentlemen faced off four years ago and stood toe-to-toe. >> harris: do you think biden is the same? >> they're both the same. both older. >> harris: with all that we've seen and all that we've experienced with you and i sitting across from each other what we witnessed not just the gaffes and mistakes but the lies about the past, stories that never happened. you think that he now is the same as he was even four years ago? >> i think people understand he cares about them and that he is
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working his tail off for them. harris, i said yes. >> harris: caring about people. okay. >> they debated twice four years ago. debating twice this time. i think there is an incredible contrast. the fact is this. there is one person in the race that's fighting for the american people. and he has been in those six swing states that were laid out. >> harris: why is he losing then? fox news brand-new power rankings is issuing a tracker which shows that president trump leads biden on the most key issues including foreign policy, guns, crime, economy and border. biden leads trump on healthcare, abortion and democracy. patrick. >> that fox poll shows this will be neck-and-neck and yes, there is 50 states in america but it comes down to six swing states including my home state of pennsylvania. the fact is this that i do think that joe biden needs to win to
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remain president pennsylvania, wisconsin, and michigan. and i know the polls don't look great that you mentioned earlier in arizona and nevada. all within the margin of error. it will be nip and tuck. we're five months away from an historic election day, a rematch epic proportions. >> the president is sitting at 36% approval rating. that's why president trump enjoys such big leads on the issues that americans say they would rather have them and this latest strategy of using convicted felon over and over will go over about as well as the strategy of showing that vice president harris is up and ready to lead. they roll her out every couple months saying she is ready to lead. she doesn't do well. they put her back where she is not in the public light as much. they've campaign strategy to show they are up for the job and sitting at 36% approval.
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>> harris: president biden leaned into his criticism of trump's conviction at a private fundraiser, a former president, convicted felon, is seeking the office of the presidency. not the same trump that got elected in 2016. he is worse. biden's words. biden campaign has used the term several times since the verdict. this is the first time biden used the words himself. i will go in reverse order again. david. >> is he willing to say that on the debate stage, one. and two, in every major policy area people believe donald trump will do a better job than joe biden. under this administration inflation is up, the border is in chaos, and that's what voters say they are most concerned about and they know where joe biden has been on the issue. >> harris: look, there will be flash polling that happens, you know, after the verdict up until about this point and we'll start to look at longer polling, patrick, whether or not that
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conviction affects people's vote. what would you tell the president right now about the words convicted felon? >> i would say use it. it is the facts. the facts are this. when you look at independent voters. >> harris: according to the house speaker, the real number is 17 million people across our border. a large number of them illegally. that's from mike johnson, the house speaker. that's a fact, too. i guess the republicans had better use it. >> i think when president trump was in he asked congress to pass immigration reform and they didn't do it. president biden -- that's -- >> harris: he has been saying he didn't have the power to do anything and suddenly today with 36% as david pointed out many times he will take executive action and let in more than 900,000 people a year. >> we have to do a better job. >> harris: i have to let you go. "outnumbered" next. and bowel incontinence. but that changed
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