>> greg: we are out of time, thank you to our guests and our studio audience. love you, america. >> trace: good evening i'm trace gallagher, 11:00 pm on the east coast, 8:00 in los angeles

and this is america's late news, "fox news @ night". breaking tonight, brand-new video of a california retail store manager fighting back against a shoplifter and wait until you hear the accused shoplifter start saying the manager is the one breaking the law. that manager who was not about to give in is live onset with us in minutes. and president biden's border crisis now overwhelming our nation's schools, costing taxpayers a bunch of money, costing our kids their education. plus this... >> i feel very confident that this is going to be a hard-fought race but when the chips are down the american people will show up just like those kids did 80 years ago. >> trace: democrats now comparing voting for joe biden to storming the beaches of normandy. but we begin with the alleged threat to democracy and the senior national correspondent kevin corke live in dc with more on that. good evening. >> reporter: good evening trace. former fbi deputy director says

the intelligence community is worried that former president trump will seek retribution against his political enemies if he's reelected. telling cnn that some intel officials are having "torturous discussions with their families" about whether to leave the country to avoid being unconstitutionally and illegally detained. >> it's terrifying, it's frightening, i have a lot of conversations with former colleagues, people who are or were in the intelligence and law enforcement community and may have worked in the obama administration and other places, and people are really trying to assess what is life going to be like if donald trump wins a second term. >> trace: all yes, and if the pangs of panic in washington over what donald trump might do if he's elected sounds familiar, critics say frankly it should sound familiar, with democrats and yes, the media once again

sounding the alarm. former msnbc anchor saying this, this is exactly the choice we have, a dictatorship or a democracy. not to be outdone, former secretary of state hillary clinton suggesting in a d-day post on x that a reelected donald trump would be a threat to democracy "80 years ago today thousands of brave americans fought to protect democracy on the shores of normandy. this november, all we have to do is vote." indeed. trace. >> trace: kevin corke live in dc, thank you. some are accusing president biden of getting too political during his d-day anniversary speech enormity, taking failed jobs at trump while warning americans at home about the so-called constitutional crisis. gently painter is live in new york with more on this. >> reporter: good evening, trace. president biden remains in france where he gave a second

speech enormity warning about what he considers the high stakes for american democracy this november. >> they are asking us to do our job, to protect freedom in our time, to defend democracy, to stand up against a broad and at home, to be part of something bigger than ourselves. >> reporter: the back at home republicans are blasting president biden for shaming them on the world stage, blaming them for holding up aid to ukraine just hours before those remarks in a meeting with ukraine's leader volodymyr zelenskyy. meanwhile former president trump is touting his postconviction fundraising numbers as he kicks off a west coast swing that includes a visit to the deep blue state of california, where you are, were some of the biggest names in a -- helped infused trump's campaign with cash thursday night in the former president is picking up celebrity support as well. take a listen.

>> in a straight choice between donald trump and joe biden, if you care about democracy and freedom, i don't know how you could do anything other than vote for donald trump for precisely the reasons they claim you can't vote for donald trump. >> reporter: it's worth knowing that in a new poll, in georgia voters, trump is holding a three-point advantage over president biden. the issue of who will best preserve democracy which is interesting. >> trace: chanley painter live in new york, thank you. let's bring in lee carter, host of's tackle back tonight erick stakelbeck and former state department spokesperson, thank you for coming on. morgan, nobody knows more about state department foreign affairs then you. i want your thoughts and what you think of president biden using what was supposed to be a moment for an historic speech to take a couple of smacks at trump. >> they can't help themselves. everything has the orange man behind it. everything has the ghost of

trump behind it scaring them and i think that they are telegraphing how worried they are about the poll numbers and i know we will get into this, about the significant amount of fundraising trump has done in the past two weeks, especially you saw this enormous tally that he started to pull in after the verdict. so i think, listen, nothing is off-balance, even things that should be sacred, that should be a political are moments for them to remind everybody that a vote for trump is a boat to destroy democracy, which actually makes no sense when you are voting in a democracy. >> trace: it's interesting because you follow foreign policy a lot, we've had you on the show talking about that stuff, and the speech just seems , for lack of a better word, tacky. what do you think? >> yeah, i think mixed messaging here. as president biden talks about defending democracy and american

interest, number 1, we have russian warships right now heading to the caribbean in the next few days that will dock in cuba and america's doorstep. secondly, the abandonment of afghanistan and holding up weapon shipments to israel. this does not exactly seem like the right messaging in terms of defending freedom worldwide against america's adversaries. i interviewed president trump a few weeks ago and he said under my leadership, america was safer, more stable in the world and it's hard to argue. >> trace: lee carter, russell brand was talking to our friend elizabeth pipko and he said this about trump. >> concerned about the snobbery and contempt and condemnation in which people who support donald trump are plainly held by his detractors. this is while you have an administration that's emulating his policies, plagiarizing from donald trump while simultaneously criminalizing him for the weaponization of the legal system.

>> trace: he does not understand why anyone would not vote for trump. >> and it's really fascinating because his sentiment where he's talking about how he can't stand the snobbery of the elite, of the democrats, it's really something in line with the american people. about 70% of americans have started to say they are tired of the forced morality of one party where you say you must agree, you can't have your own opinions. so all of this messaging that the democrats are doing about, you know, we are going to lose freedom if donald trump comes in or it's a threat to democracy, it's actually backfiring on them quite a bit. we look at polling now, many people think it's the republicans who are the ones that need to be an office in order to preserve democracy. >> trace: that's fair. you talked about this earlier, morgan ortagus, the fundraising that trump did in california. he pulled some big money out of there. here's tech investor david sachs today. watch. >> turns out hundreds of people turned out in the streets but

they were pro- trump even with the protesters, there was a tremendous enthusiasm. what does that tell you about the rest of the country? >> trace: what does it tell you, morgan? >> i think the fascinating point. it tells you that you can try to convince people that the sky is blue and everything is fine but they go to the grocery store, they check out at the grocery store, they see how much things cost, i see how much it costs to fill their gas tank, and they also look around the world. i mean one of the other panelists talked about it, we see a new war or a new tragedy in every theater around the world and the biden presidency, the worst war in europe because of their failure to deter putin, of course october 7th. and china certainly is not deterred. north korea takes very concerning actions on a daily basis so people aren't stupid. they see what's in front of them. that's why they are there. >> trace: and lee carter, you follow the numbers closer than anyone.

you look at this, you look at the fundraising and california, i'm not saying he's going to win california but it significant when there are people in the streets and there are people giving a bunch of money. >> it's really significant and i think what we've seen turn it on it's head is places like the bronx and new york. now we see california, the level of enthusiasm and people coming out to support trump, it's palpable. you can often feel it in a race, you can see where the energy is and feel where the momentum is and you see a big difference when donald trump shows up then when biden shows up and i think that enthusiasm will play a big role in the polls in november and voter turnout. >> trace: erick stakelbeck, 15 seconds, but the energy level seems to be higher. >> trace, i grew up in a working-class neighborhood in northeast philadelphia, blue state, blue city, i can tell you the guys i grew up with are voting for trump for faith, family and freedom, that's what they tell me. >> trace: erick stakelbeck, morgan ortagus, lee carter, thank you. now for media analysis on the

so-called trump derangement syndrome, the kevin corke alluded to at the top of the show, let's bring in founder of the kings firm gillian anderson and seattle talk radio host. welcome to you both. julian, to you first, hillary clinton posted this on x, saying "80 years ago today, thousands of brave americans fought to protect democracy on the shores of normandy. this november all we have to do is vote. no need to go on the beach and get shot by germans, you just vote. >> i mean leave it to hillary clinton. rather than honoring some of our nation's bravest war heroes on the 80th anniversary of d-day, hillary clinton uses the occasion to compare trump to hitler. ignorant comments like this only confirmed to the millions of americans have voted for trump in 2016 that they were spot on in making that right choice and denying her the presidency. >> trace: i want to play this soundbite because it's from our disgraced former deputy fbi director on cnn and i just want you to watch the drama involved

in this. >> people are really trying to assess what is life going to be like if donald trump wins a second term. on a personal note, these are torturous discussions about whether they have to leave the country to avoid being unconstitutionally and illegally detained. >> trace: torturous discussions. mcbeth with more subtle. >> i certainly believe that those conversations were torturous, 100%. i'm sure anyone who was involved in those conversations wanted to kill themselves, wanted to end it all right, then, and there be caused it is so over-the-top. i don't understand how they don't realize that. they don't seem to understand that to normal human beings, what they are doing is absolutely insane. it's not just dramatic, it's insane. using this as a level of attack to try to scare people is just lazy. it might have worked the first

time, it's not going to work the second time because at some point people sit back and realize he did not become an autocrat that first time and he left and that seems kind of to that all of a sudden he would. >> trace: jason talks about crazy but there's always the king of tingle who can get as crazy as any. watch this. >> donald trump who wants to put them before firing squads basically, he wants to put them all in jail. he's unbelievable the way he talks about his opponents. i'm telling you, trump could end up rolling the score. i've got the congress, i've got the supreme court, i own it all, i am a dictator. >> trace: are they rehearsing this stuff or is this like first take stuff, what do you think? >> i think they all have the same talking points. the left mainstream media, they can keep beating the same drum and instill fear in voters but i don't think it's going to work. let's remind chris matthews that what -- when trump took office

in 2017, we had, republicans had both the house, the senate and the white house and he was not a dictator but i think you forgot that in his talking points. >> trace: i think he did. finally, james carville said the following... >> more slanted garbage and i think we ought to recognize the threat that this guy in the maga, not just him but the entire movement from trump on down is a serious, it's serious and present danger to the existence of the constitution in the united states and i mean that. >> trace: it's not just trump, jason, 20 seconds left, it's half the country! >> i love the idea that he once slanted coverage as if that's not precisely what's happening every day. how much more slanted could it possibly be? everyone sees it for what it is but it's becoming the boy who

cried dictator, it's just not going to work anymore. >> trace: it's not. jason rantz, jillian anderson, thank you. meantime 104-year-old veteran sharing his wisdom tonight, the kind you only get when you've taken at least 100 trips around the sun and defended the country in a major world war. merry and rafferty is live with more on what a hero from the greatest generation has to say about this generation. >> reporter: it's amazing, it's been at -- eight decades since he stormed omaha beach in -- on d-day. 104-year-old world war ii veteran sharing his thoughts on the bravery and sacrifice of the greatest generation. stephen was just 24 when he served in the 175th infantry regiment. 's service earning him two purple heart and three bronze stars for bravery. telling us during an interview enormity that he worries whether the current generation of young people would display the same type of courage. >> we were hell of a lot tougher than you guys. we did not have the conveniences.

i can remember my mother lighting the gaslamp in the house. i can remember all of the things that we went through. >> reporter: recalling that more than 5700 died during d-day fighting, including his close friend and rifle partner who trained and served with him leading up to the invasion. also discussing his own injury and -- in a subsequent battle in the month of june 1944 were a machine gun bullet hit him near his throat. >> when i say we were tough, we were forced to be tougher. i hope they will be able to do something like our generation if it becomes necessary, and i see things on the edges that remind me of that period. >> reporter: on a personal note, people ask me what my most memorable interview was with a famous percent and it was without a doubt spending an entire morning with d-day veterans who recounted the day as young men when they pushed back the germans and changed the course of the war. >> trace: i talked to people on the 70 firth joe 75th

anniversary of pearl harbor and it was the same. marianne rafferty, thank you. >> these are the boys. [ applause ] >> these are the men who took the cliffs, these are the champions who helped free incontinent, these are the heroes who helped end a war. >> trace: that was the 40th president of the united states president ronald reagan 40 years ago at the beaches of normandy. a far cry from current president joe biden's speech today. >> when they decide they're country matters more than they do, that's what the rangers at point hawk did, that's what they decided. >> trace: let's bring in former education secretary and fox news contributor bill bennett to talk about this. great to have you on. you've talked about the speech, it's the speech, it can be well

written, that's all great, it's a ceremony and setting, but it's the delivery of the speech that's also imperative. >> it's it's the delivery and the person delivering it work a great speech is greatly written, greatly delivered and usually by a great person. that's not biden i'm afraid. he could have for goodness sake practiced the pronunciation of point hawk but that's pretty typical. look, you know, i think it was a mistake for them to try to compare to reagan and put themselves in that mold but they decided to do that. i worked with that speechwriting office of reagan, they were excellent, great words, but you have to have the right person delivering those great words to make it memorable -- pointe du hoc -- >> trace: newton was writing in the wall street journal talking about how politics back

then 40 years ago, they were kinder and gentler to coin a phrase, and how the generation might have been tougher. what do you think about that sentiment? >> well we call them the greatest generation and they were surely great, no question, when they're country called they came. i'm not convinced that if the country called, these young men and women, but mostly young men, they would not go either. i believe they would go. my favorite novelist says don't be fooled by those guys in the south wearing those alligator golf pants, they are just ready to go to war. that good old boy thing can be easily translated. i don't know but i have confidence. we had a son who was a marine. we met his colleagues, had him up on the 4th of july, pretty tough bunch of customers they were and i think they are out there. but remember, the war that we fight next, trace, you know, won't be so much helmeted

soldiers, it will be people in silicon valley, you know, it will be remote-control stuff, it will be high-tech stuff. there may be an occupation force required but the thing -- go ahead, i don't want to run on. >> trace: i was just going to make a point as we watch president biden walk out today at pointe du hoc, i was going to make the point where it's not the speech he gave that he will be remembered for, but what he will be remembered for is his handling of afghanistan, his handling of the war in gaza and in ukraine and these military things, that's the most important legacy this president will be remembered for and right now it's not good. >> he leads with his chin. he says these men did not walk away. we don't walk away, we won't walk away from tyranny and terror. well what did you do in afghanistan, mr biden? you walked away, you ran away,

and it was horrible, the way you did it. yeah, he talks about zelenskyy's and russia but what about china? a much greater threat to the world and world peace and to the united states. reagan built up the defense establishment, built up the defense department, made it stronger and the negotiations that then took place with gorbachev were very much to our advantage. today, you know, biden has downgraded the defense department, upgraded domestic spending, some of it ridiculous, and the result is we are not respected and the chinese are on the move. >> trace: yeah. bill bennett, great to have a conversation with you as always my friend, i appreciate it, thank you for coming on. >> is fall football coming, you promise? >> trace: it's coming and alabama has a new coach so it's going to be a big year down

south. >> i think so, i think he's good. thank you. >> trace: coming up, emotional testimony at hunter biden's on trial from his own daughter, and hunter himself maybe taking the stand. and later in the night, we told you last night about their retail companies plan to stop theft, employees using body cameras. they believe it could cut shoplifting and half another's evidence that may, maybe not support that theory. a california store manager with a camera confronted a shoplifter and the video is amazing, but we will let you decide if the camera might be a deterrent. good body cameras rain in shoplifting or do thieves not care if they are being recorded? after all, they are criminals. let us know x and instagram @tracegallagher, we will read your responses coming up. can't wait to read them in the nightcap. [♪♪]

[♪♪] >> trace: hunter biden's daughter took the witness stand and her dad's defense after the prosecution rested their case arguing that hunter biden lied on a federal gun body inform. the justice correspondent live in wilmington, telemark took delaware with more on what's next. good evening. >> reporter: good evening, what's next is hunter biden's attorney has a big decision to make over the next few days. over the weekend he said he will decide whether or not hunter will testify on monday. he said no more witnesses, is likely the last witness would be hunter if hunter testifies but to date emotional testimony from hunter's daughter naomi when she took the stand. naomi as hunters eldest daughter, she's named for his late sister who was tragically killed in delaware in 1972 in that car crash along with hunter's mother.

naomi biden painted a picture of a clear minded hopeful hunter biden when she saw him in late summer 2018. this was just weeks before he allegedly lied on a federal gun form in october of that year. she was uncomfortable on the stand. hunter's daughter was. she answered in a soft voice, said she was nervous, aware that her dad was addicted to drugs and said "things got bad after my uncle died." first lady jill biden flew in late yesterday from d-day events in france. she was in the courtroom in wilmington today. she's on her way back to france tomorrow for a state dinner with the president and the french president and his wife tomorrow and she and president biden will return here on sunday to wilmington. hunter's attorney focused heavily on a gun form, a federal gun form where he says different people put different things on the form at different times, questioning just the overall paperwork.

he said sloppy paperwork, essentially sloppy paperwork by employees and that's what he's trying to delve into. if hunter testimony -- testifies on monday, it will be a big day. if he doesn't, it's possible this goes to the jury on monday and we could have a verdict potentially. >> trace: that's fast, live in wilmington, thank you. let's bring in the president of the article three project mike davis, great to have you on the show. like david was saying, the word is that defense might call hunter biden to testify. it seems awfully risky to me. what do you think? >> i think that would be a disaster for hunter biden. i don't think you should testify, i don't think he's a credible witness and it would be very easy to get him to admit on cross-examination that he violated federal gun laws when he was a drug addict, when he made these gun purchases. >> trace: and then the laptop, that's all admissible because it was exhibit 1. you talk about the laptop and there will be disastrous questions on that.

>> and then also if he testifies , you could see the government bringing in rebuttal witnesses to rebut what he says and that's just not good. frankly, look, if you look at the evidence in this case, it's very clear, the evidence is crystal-clear that hunter biden violated federal law. he should be found guilty, you should be convicted, but i have little confidence in this delaware jury with these biden democrats. i think it could be a hung jury or maybe even jury nullification >> trace: so you think there's a very good probability that one of the jurors rebels and hangs this thing up? >> very much so. and remember what this case is all about, this u.s. attorney who was hand selected by both democrat home state senators has been covering up for joe biden for years. he let the statue of limitations expire on actual corruption

charges, charges that could tie hunter biden as the bagman for the biden crime family to joe biden. instead he's brought these charges against hunter biden for serious charges but i don't see them going anywhere and they won't go back to joe biden. >> trace: mike davis, great to have you on as always, thank you. >> thank you. >> trace: meantime retail theft continuing to be a problem in california and shoplifters don't seem to care if they are caught on camera because some believe apparently it's the right to steal. here's a confrontation between a california store manager and a suspected shoplifter that you have to see, and listen to. the shoplifters argument that she is actually the victim. >> you give me my jacket right now! i'm not going to have you stealing from my store! you are on video and you are going to get arrested. [♪♪]

>> trace: so a young person steals, gets caught, gets angry and argues she has the right to steal a certain amount and it's illegal to stop her from stealing a certain amount which leads us to the front door of the "fox news @ night" commonsense department. los angeles interim police chief who is using the same logic basically as our young female thief. the chief says violent crime in la is holding steady but property crimes are down. when the chief says violent crime is steady, he means still at record levels. when he says property crime is down, he means still at record levels but not rising quite as fast. so the chief appears to have adopted joe biden's inflation explanation. the chief also said public perception of rising crime is driven by the media. the funny thing is, he said that just hours before giving the media new stats showing that crime is actually rising. so if commonsense has this right, the media reports that crime is up, the public believes

crime is up, the chief is upset the public believes crime is up and then confirms that crime is up. is it any wonder that people wonder what to believe? it's one big shell game and we are the suckers looking for the shell. commonsense wants honesty, it wants somebody somewhere to say crime is up, inflation is up and we suck, but we are trying to fix it. let's bring in california state assembly member and boutique store manager. thank you for coming on. amber, this was your video and you are going to kind of walk us through this but i want to play a little bit more of this thing and you can tell us what happened. this is where she says that you are the one that is actually violating the law. watch. >> you are not allowed to touch. >> give me back my [ bleep ] jacket! >> here you go. >> give me the other one! don't steal from my [ bleep ]

store! give me the other one! >> that's all there is. >> let me look in the bag. >> trace: she's dressed nicely catches got some expensive merchandise if you will and she's stealing from your store and thinks she has the right to. >> absolutely. >> trace: and so do you think i'm a little concerned about this, maybe i should not do this >> no, i just think my pause button was off and i reacted. i asked her to stop several times before i got my camera and then i ended up having to chase her down. >> trace: yeah, and you got your stuff back. >> yep. >> trace: but it's unbelievable because while you are up in the assembly, bill, cutting your microphone because of things they don't want you to say, they are passing these laws >> and these people, they know the rule, they know they can go out and break the law. >> it said that amber was put in this position because the policies of the state, where

they've effectively decriminalized theft. you can still up to about $1000 a day and nothing will happen but when the chief says property crime is down, don't believe him. reports are down, people don't bother to report it anymore. it's not down. >> trace: not down at all. you talk about the body camera you had, i don't know how you feel about these things but i'm wondering because the guy, one of the ceos of the company that makes the cameras, now they are in t.j. maxx et cetera, he said the following here, he thinks they will help retail theft. watch. >> it's the same phenomenon we've seen in policing, that when there's something recording, people feel they are accountable for their actions and the data we are seeing out retail is showing that people that are wearing body cameras are seeing 50% the were confrontational incidents. >> trace: it seems when you have a camera on you, i mean there are cameras all over the place so what do you think about that statement? >> it would make me nervous actually to wear one. i'm not opposed to it.

maybe at bigger corporations. >> trace: where was the camera when you were confronting this young woman? >> it was my phone, i had one of those ring holders. >> trace: so you had the whole thing right there, you kind of had a camera on you. but it did not just wait or deter her one bit. >> no, she knew i had the phone. >> trace: she knew she was being filmed. that's the whole thing, bill, you wonder well, is it a deterrent? >> it will deter some people. as a former prosecutor, what body cameras do is mostly exonerate the officers. people make outrages al is it -- accusations. >> trace: much more serious crime, this is somebody in riverside county shooting at people, he killed one man. so some of this video if you would. to be have the video of the shooting? he was shooting people and it was -- he's now charged clearly with murder and with other crimes here but you look at this

and you think i mean this is kind of -- it's gotten very little coverage. guys out there in riverside shooting cars and it got very little coverage. >> i would be surprised if he was not on drugs or had a history of drugs but we aren't talking about it because drugs are legalized now. drug-induced psychosis, the homeless people we have today are not the same as ten years ago. we have a mental health crisis. >> trace: and you are in santa monica. this is a big concern for you in retail, are you afraid sometimes to go to work? >> i am and i am more paranoid now. i'm less trusting of shoppers. >> trace: amazing. will listen, you are tough, you are great, do not go into her store, she will whatever you are going to do. bill, amber, thank you. coming up, illegal immigration putting a strain on schools and state budgets which all cost you, the taxpayer. oklahoma state superintendent joins us live with his opinion,

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>> trace: breaking tonight, former apollo eight astronaut william anders died tragically in a plane crash at 90 years old according to the associated press. he was piloting the plane solo when it went down in the waters off the san juan islands and washington state. he was known for capturing the iconic earthrise photo, the first color photo taken of earth from space. former astronaut, dead at the age of 90. meantime president biden's border crisis and to the influx of migrant children now overwhelming our nation's schools and it's costing taxpayers a lot of money. a recent study shows and just four states in one year absorbing the influx may have cost taxpayers three quarters of a billion. let's bring in ryan walters, great to have you on the show. i want to put this graphic up because i think it's instructive

we are only talking about four states, nearly three quarters of a billion dollars, california 188 million, 239 million new york. i know it's not as prevalent in oklahoma but you can see how this is impacting not only the funds that are going to public schools but also the education level because a lot of these kids are having to give up their time learning to teach kids that don't speak the language to learn. >> trace, we are seeing it here. we are not a border state but now under the biden administration every state is becoming a border state. we have a district seeing over 80 new illegal immigrant students per week. this is throughout the year, this is the end of the school year, our schools are being overrun, joe biden is making the southern states pay for his border crisis and what we have to do is we have to account for every illegal immigrant and send the bill to the federal government. this is on joe biden, not on the southern states. we have to van together. as a state we are looking at

this right now, we will account for every illegal immigrant in our school and joe biden will have to pay for this and it is overwhelming the school systems, the towns and the communities. >> trace: there appears to be a target on the men we are looking at right now in his department that he runs, here's on the final day of session, house passes bill to limit ryan walters education spending. it goes on to say one section of the bill for bids the agency from using money under it's control to secure media interviews or other public promotional purposes. why in the world are they going after the state department of education and nobody else? >> i will tell you why, the teachers union and the most radical 2slgbtqi+ groups put a political bounty on my head. they have made me the most wanted man in oklahoma. why? because i said we are going to shed a spotlight on what was going on in schools. parents were tired of woke administrators and the teachers unions hiding pornography,

critical race theory, transgender ideology in their schools. we probably spotlight to it. we have rhinos here in the state that have partnered with the teachers union to say no, we want to go back to a time where there -- those things were hidden. we don't want the state superintendent being the voice for parents. trace, we've been rhino hunting in oklahoma and now those rhinos have come together to work with the teachers union to try to silence me and my agency. we are going to stay quiet, we will always be a voice for parents, not in the state of oklahoma will we allow their voices to be silenced. >> trace: very quickly, even the governor agrees you can't just target certain departments. >> it's obvious what they are doing and that's where again they want to silence the voice of parents. you see this with president trump too, they are censoring me, president trump, it's really an attempt to silence conservative americans. we will not back down. >> trace: oklahoma school superintendent ryan walters,

great to have you on, thank you. meantime coming up, do you think body cameras can help curb retail theft or are thieves going to thief no matter what? let us know x and instagram @tracegallagher, we will read your responses. we've got a bunch of them and the poll is interesting, coming up in the nightcap. [♪♪] t—mobile's 5g network connects a hundred thousand delta employees so they can make every customer feel like they've arrived before they've left the ground. this is how business goes further with t—mobile for business.

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>> trace: we are back with the nightcap crew, tonight's topic, candid camera. we've been talking about a retail company's plan to stop theft, employees using body cameras. they believe they could cut shoplifting in half. what do you think, good body cameras rain in shoplifting or do thieves not care if they are being recorded because they are criminals after all? let's start with the legal mind on the panel, welders two. chanley painter, you first. >> i think it would cut back on it. is a former prosecutor, the more evidence the better. if it's on camera it can help you prosecute a case but as you said if someone is determined to be a thief, nothing will stop them. >> trace: bill. >> i think prison is better but i will take shame. some stores now will actually post your photo and publicly shame you. i'm all for it. >> trace: making people bring the stuff back, that's the good stuff. marianne rafferty. >> i think it would be a great deterrent but if you were a

storeowner i would worry about someone being armed and possibly hurting you if you confront them. >> trace: kevin corke. >> you steel, you get be. if you can't handle that, camera is fine. >> trace: amber? >> to be determined, for sure. >> trace: but don't come in your store looking to steal stuff. >> in studio city and santa monica. >> trace: good plug. jason. >> it's going to do absolutely nothing except maybe create a new industry for the reality shows. it will create a brand-new reality tv show brand or theme i guess. i predict tlc will have some sort of my shoplifting life. >> trace: the big brother of retail theft, exactly right. so i think no, i think there are just too many cameras already. the poll says good body cameras be a remedy?

yes, 30% x, instagram 55%. stephanie, change it from -- change it and that would help. michael says no one cares if they are being recorded since no repercussions. yes, but we have to ban masks and disguises to make the cameras more effective. mark says not sure if it will stop theft but will make great viral videos, maybe recoup lost revenue,. that's the jason rantz theory of theft. and jp, will help identify the thief. potentially. and jamie says they will just use masks or something like that but it might help if they get violent with employees or if they come into amber's. thank you all for following the nightcap. for watching america's latet news, fox news and night. i'm trace gallagher in los e a great weekendam and weer will see you back here mondayucin. ned, ned, who are you wearing?

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