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king county has $5 million on migrants and the state of washington has allotted $30 million more but not nearly enough. >> sandra: dan springer out of kent, washington for us. thank you. >> bill: before we go. before we go, he said, got an unexpected visitor from the great outdoors. it's summertime. crashing a pickup soccer game. an elk. a few head butts, gets into gear that's actually happening. now we wonder if he can score a goal or she. it's colorado. he head butts it back and forth and we have a good time and we have this video. give us that ball back is what they are saying. >> sandra: you've been watching a seven foot nine basketball player. this was fun. thanks for having me. >> bill: here is harris, catch you later. bye-bye. >> harris: some shifts to talk about today. we'll start here, fox news alert
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reporting there is dire anxiety inside the democratic party over president biden's path forward. does he have one? what does it look like? what's the plan? the timing of this for the biden supporters, one week from today the first general election debate against former president donald trump. i'm harris faulkner and you are in "the faulkner focus." this is also happening for the first time since last october fox news polling shows president biden has a slight lead in a two-way match-up against the former president. the small 3-point shift comes after former president trump's criminal conviction and still represents a statistical dead heat because it's inside the margin of error. it is worth noting that trump came down a point, biden goes up two points. a wake-up call to republican supporters of trump. while he may lead in every
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category in the battleground states, you have to vote. this is not over yet. it is never over for either man. former white house deputy chief of staff karl rove with this on numbers and upcoming debate. >> does point to a very tight race and the movement is relatively small. i think it will be the most important moment of this campaign. high stakes for both of them. we have never had a presidential debate where it could have as volatile an impact on the election. if somebody has a really bad night and somebody has a really good night, that could change the course of the campaign and lock it in because each party will have its own convention but the next time where the two people will be seen on the same stage and the person who did badly the first time can even it up in the second one is 11 weeks. >> harris: he did that all without his famous white board. that's plain and simple. all about who votes.
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axios is reporting anxiety -- i'll get to that part -- from some in team biden. sources are telling axios the president and his inner circle are dead set on focusing on trump's conviction in fears of another january 6th. not everybody is on board with that strategy. some are saying they are afraid to speak up to biden. one strategist close to the campaign told axios, it is unclear to many of us watching from the outside whether the president and his core team realize how dire the situation is right now and whether they even have a plan to fix it. that is scary, end of quote. senior white house correspondent peter doocy. >> president biden remains upside down on the issues that typically decide presidential elections. you look at the latest fox poll on the economy just a 41% approval. on inflation 37%. immigration 35%. and then the war between israel
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and hamas 32% approval. and part of the reason white house officials are trying to tell americans that the videos are fake. look at this one if it is extremely important to your 2024 vote that a candidate has age and mental soundness, 45% say that is extremely important. and that's what people will be watching in the next debate. trump is entering as the favorite according to this poll. when you look voters regardless of party trump is seen as the winner before the thing even starts by 50% of people who plan to watch across allied yell geese. president biden is in delaware now and go late tonight to camp david. they are doing all this debate prep away from cameras with a small group of advisors. remember, it was the biden team that laid out the initial parameters for this debate.
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things that they thought would be to their advantage. now it is the biden team's job to make sure their guy does a good job. >> harris: that's a lot of pressure. peter doocy, thank you very much. cassie, and david carlucci, great to see you both. cassie, i will start with you and the debate prep for both men going into one week from today. what do you think it looks like and what should it look like for trump in particular? >> what we've heard is that trump is just focusing on the issues. less about him doing some sort of role play and having someone to play joe biden, more about getting getting strong and confident on his positions on all these issues where he is right side up with the voters to remind people of that in this debate. if i'm joe biden folks i'm trying to do the same thing with him. i think they are probably regretting they pushed for this early debate date now unless it is part of some larger campaign to maybe push him off the
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ballot, which we talked about a lot here. i think they are getting nervous. on every front he is under water in the polls but every front is in the new, foreign policy, immigration, economy. a tough spotlight to have to defend. >> harris: david, it is interesting, when you look at the issues that reportedly are being talked about in president biden's ramp up to the campaign. they're focusing on trump's way forward through future cases and also democracy and what that means to joe biden and so on and so forth. almost like letting the opponent sort of shape the other opponent biden's way forward. is that good strategy? >> well, i don't think so. i think it has to be about the economy. convictions don't win a race. it is the economy that does. i think it is smart to have this debate so early in the campaign. why?
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because it is so important that voters understand this is a binary choice. we've been talking for a long time for waiting for some super human person to come down and run for office. we know that's not happening. when it is a binary choice, we will continue to see these numbers rise for biden and decline for donald trump. you can have a great debate and all it takes is five seconds to slip up and that's what we'll see repeated across the airwaves throughout social media. it is so important particularly for joe biden to be gaffe proof and make sure it shows he has the energy, the zest to be commander-in-chief for another four years. >> harris: i want to pull up more of the new fox polling on the current state of the country. we'll look at that. 68% say the condition of the economy is only fair or poor. 2/three of voters say they are dissatisfied with the way things are going. that's been around 70% for a while now.
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how do you change that? reverse order now, david. >> this is a challenge, right? this is one of the reasons why you don't hear bidenomics anymore. even though the president has a record, he has focused on people's pocket books and i think he has done a good job it is impossible to boast. people don't want to hear you boasting. they want to hear you sympathizing and understanding the challenges that they have. the divide between the rich and poor is something that's on everyone's mind and that's where biden has to go. >> harris: i'm confused. he has been president for more than three years. he has to have met some americans not in the upper echelons of this economy. he goes to expensive ice cream shops but he ventures to other places, i would think. when he meets those americans who are struggling, is he ignore them or having a fantasy? what's going on. the way you describe it is very simple. if he is paying attention, he will know what to say. cassie. >> i thief it's interesting what david is saying. the reason they're not saying
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bidenomics anymore. they said it should be a good thing. the people you are talking about are saying that's not a good thing to me. my groceries and gas is more expensive. the border is not secure. none of the biden math is adding up to my life being better. the american people can say i know what it felt like less than four years ago in my life and different from now. joe biden hasn't been good for me or my fame plea and why they aren't talking about it. it is interesting you said he should talk about the economy. if i was trump i would welcome biden to talk about the economy all night long. it is a bad thing for him. >> harris: through the sources of axios the word conviction will come up more. despite the president's conviction trump and biden are tied when it comes to the voters' feelings on -- that's an embarrassment and almost hard to
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even predict that biden would be at this point. it's not just the economy. that border crisis is still on fire. >> yeah, absolutely. i think that's what that poll shows is that people already have a baked in impression of both the presidents, former and current from a personality standpoint, this is about those issues. those numbers should be very concerning for joe biden and also donald trump should be prepping on them every chance he gets. interesting you are even seeing top democrat strategists and advisors concerned with the biden campaign strategy to just talk about trump in the courtroom and trump on january 6th. that's not where people are now. that hasn't impacted their day-to-day life the same biden policies have. >> harris: the courtroom had that the debate won't have, an audience. they were selling seats to get into there and the overflow room. that is going to be so different. it will be silent inside the room with the two men next thursday. that has a play a role, too.
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one will feel a lot less like a situation of a communication and conversation. i don't know how joe biden does that if he hasn't been to rallies and doing those things. trump hasn't done much of them, either. but he does -- >> what the republicans have lowered expectations for joe biden. >> harris: i think the democrats have done that. they are fighting over the video which, by the way, was not edited. >> that's a mistake for republicans to continue to focus on that. when biden does show up. the state of the union, they will have to come up with all types of excuses why joe biden over performed in the debate and a miscalculation for republicans and interesting to see what donald trump comes up with, and what his excuse is post debate. this is important because now the people that are not engaged, pew research says four out of ten americans are not following this race. amazing for us, i know.
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this debate allows people to get more involved and say hey, i got to make a decision. i might not like either of them but who am i actually going to vote for come november? it is so important. i think people recognize that. >> harris: the party that seems to be stubling over shiny objects is the left. if you really look at what they're doing and blame other people for cheap fakes and getting help from the legacy media. cassie, ten seconds to wrap. >> if joe biden comes streaming for the debate and doesn't have the support of the applause meter, it will be very awkward. it will come across very awkward in our tv screens. no one understands a tv audience better than donald trump. joe biden better figure out a different strategy than the one he used for the state of the union. >> harris: things are getting tense between biden and netanyahu. biden is facing some serious
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pressure from those in the far left of his party here at home. all over his policy with regard to israel. what will he do next? he has been very dupe -- unedited videos of joe biden, the shiny object for the left. people are concerned about his mental sharpness because of those videos especially this one of him at the juneteenth event. the whole thing runs like two minutes and he doesn't move. the white house says there is nothing to worry about. >> just because you are standing up listening to music and not dancing, that is not a health issue. it is not a health issue. ls. li. the proper annuity used correctly can be a tremendous tool to help you achieve financial security. here are the benefits. stock market growth, protection against market losses,
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>> harris: we've been seeing them for days, the unedited videos the white house keeps saying are fake. it has become news. the videos highlighted questions about president biden's fitness to serve. now more than a week later with the videos we're hotter news. the white house is fighting so hard to get people to deny what they see. byron york says maybe you can explain some away. judge for yourself. watch the videos, byron york goes on to say there is no such case to be made for the one you are watching right now, though. biden looking dazed and confused at the juneteenth celebration at the white house. byron york writes this was a different matter all together. people were swaying and capturing and biden stood motionless his eyes fixed on a distant point. he had what appeared to be a frozen smile.
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more than 2 1/2 minutes in a very long and uncomfortable time for something like that to go on. if the juneteenth event showed some sort of problem with the president, it will happen again. byron york. he did watch the whole thing. it is long. the white house is playing the blame game trying to dismissal of those unedited videos with this. >> i think you all have called this the cheap fakes video. that's exactly what they are. cheap fakes video. they are done in bad faith. the right wing critics of the president have a credibility problem because of the fact checkers have repeatedly caught them pushing misinformation. >> harris: well, you could have guessed it. many in the legacy media are using some of those white house run liners to run cover for the president. what other reason would it be? >> there is a growing and insidious trend in right wing
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media to take selectively edited videos of president biden to cast doubt on president biden's fitness for office. >> they claimed the videos are unedited and promise to keep posting them. >> a lie. >> we've been worried about a.i. deepfakes to trick people into believing something false. cheap fakes are just distorted out of context videos. what's what the biden campaign is worried about. >> harris: pool video. you didn't have a punch of reporters shooting those independently. they came from a single source. just watch the whole tape. jason chaffetz is with me now, fox news contributor and unedited video. not an opinion, it is what it is, jason. >> well, the american people can make up their own decision if you watch those videos. they are not edited. in isolation you may be able to
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explain one or two of them. the concern about president biden is this is a pattern. this is not just one or two videos. and is it a deepfake or a cheap fake that they now had to get staff to walk with the president up to marine one because they are concerned about his balance and know what it looks like? is it a deepfake they had to go to the short steps there on air force one? he doesn't do a press conference to go out and defend himself. and you see him slurring words, messing up words. after the hur report, remember, you have a u.s. attorney who says this guy has trouble. he is having trouble with memory and then he goes out to try to show he is vibrant and refers to the president of mexico when he was obviously talking about the president i think of egypt or somebody in the middle east. this is the totality of the record. not the fact this prime minister has to walk all the way across and get joe biden's attention back on what they are actually
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doing. this is a pattern, not a isolation of any one event. >> harris: it's not the first time we've seen it from the white house. and so that continues. but the layering on by legacy and liberal media is confounding. that doesn't help their cause to be parroting the words of the white house on the cheap fakes and basically defending and blaming everybody else for the video that they know was not edited. they are taking the same pool video intake that we have in our retention purposes here. we all can't be in the room so we take that pool video from whoever is taxed with doing it and it floats from network to network that responsibility. >> yeah. you remember back in the ronald reagan days, i'm old enough to remember that sam donaldsons and brit hume's of the world. do you think anybody in the press pool would not be barking these questions daily at the white house? instead there is no intellectual
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curiosity, nothing to see here. don't even ask the question. >> harris: one thing not to ask the questions but another thing to repeat what the would us is saying. tensions are flaring between the white house and israel again. netanyahu voiced his frustrations with the biden administration and the white house hit back after this. watch. >> it is inconceivable that in the past few months the administration has been withholding weapons and ammunitions to israel. >> we generally don't know what he is talking about. we just don't. there was one particular shipment of munitions that was paused and you have heard us talk about that many times. no updates on that. there are no other pauses, none. no other pauses or holds in place. >> harris: on top of that, there is a wide and emotional divide among democrats over the israel/hamas war ahead of
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netanyahu's upcoming address to congress. ocasio-cortez has called netanyahu a war criminal. sanders said netanyahu is beholding to racists in israel. fox news polling show some are supporting the u.s. financial aid to israel and that support is dipping. the biggest drop comes from liberal democratic and independent voters. survey found voters disapprove of biden's handling of the war by a 31% margin. wow. a majority of voters say they side with israel over the palestinians when it comes to the war. what do you make of all of it, jason? >> i think the shows how incredibly weak the president of the united states is. he lacks clarity. why -- if he goes out and says our relationship with israel is iron clad. then make it iron clad.
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take the fight to hamas and tell them you know what? we won't put in any sort of dock, we won't do anything until you return the hostages. we are oh not going to stand for you taking american hostages and hostages from around the world. hamas, you did this. you fix that and then we'll start to have a discussion. that kind of clarity they will understand. they are talking to iran. instead it is about appeasement and trying to help make sure that everybody feels good about things and that is weakness. look at robert o'brien wrote, the former national security advisor. one of the best we've ever had wrote this piece and talked about peace through strength. that's what trump and reagan brought and the world is a safer place. if we would do that. biden doesn't have it in him. >> harris: the recent reporting and gotten quiet because the cease-fire deal felt apart. recent reporting had the white house considering whether or not they would talk to hamas and keep israel out at that point.
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you want to talk about raising the toxicity of your relationship with our greatest allies, just do something like that. maybe it's better biden doesn't do anything if those are his best ideas. jason chaffetz, great to have you start us off. a priceless art and historic landmarks are not safe from climate activists who push their cause this way, vandalism and hate. that's just hate in motion. outrage is growing over the open border and the illegal immigrants. the crime wave now being linked to all of it. >> it is another disaster for new york. a tragedy for new york, a disaster about how our border is still open. we see more crime due to the illegal immigrants that have flooded our border. >> harris: the "new york post" called him a monster, chilling new details about the illegal alien accused of raping a
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and get the financial piece of mind that you and your family deserve >> harris: take a look. today's "new york post" cover monster. that's what you would call two children take them with a knife and tie them up and rape the 13-year-old girl. illegal immigrant from ecuador is accused of that barbaric crime and he is talking. investigators say during a taped confession he told them that he videotaped the raping of that little girl at a public park in new york city. he is charged with a list of crimes including the rape, kidnapping and endangering the welfare of a child. the queens district attorney praised the little victims for helping police catch their attacker. >> the bravery of these two
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13-year-old children. their identification, their memory of the tattoo, the braces, all which was right on point. which is a remarkable thing for two 13-year-olds to remember. >> harris: we are enduring a wave of crimes. violent crimes pointing to illegal immigrants now. in oklahoma police arrested a different illegal immigrant who is charged with raping and murdering a maryland mom of five last year. rachel's mother was outraged off homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas would not say her daughter's name. he just called her an individual. >> of course our hearts break for the children, the family, the loved ones and friends of the individual who was murdered. the woman, the mother. >> it totally depersonalizes her
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and makes her an object. to categorize her as a statistic shows how impersonal that they are. >> harris: high profile examples of illegal immigrant violence is fueling deeper concerns now over president biden's border policies and the crisis under his watch. and the effects it is all having on american's safety. miranda devine is arguing in her column biden's border bloodbath is a catastrophe has made all of us poorer and less safe. jason rantz, just talking about the bravery of that 13-year-old little girl and 13-year-old little boy, that's the best of who we are. what is happening with us, jason? >> what's happening is that we're creating victims with preventable crimes. if we had a border that was secure we wouldn't be having these kinds of crimes.
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when you have a secretary go on television and not say rachel's name, that's intentional. he didn't bother to learn it. that gets in the way of their policy. whenever there are crimes committed by illegal immigrants and it gets attention from the media, especially nationally or you start to see the same talking point go out over and over again by folks on the radical left who support open borders, they will tell you everyone, relax, illegal immigrants commit fewer crimes than american citizens. look at all the studies. that is a bogus position for them to take because the one thing that we know about most crimes in this country, when they are occurring in places like seattle, portland, new york, guess what? they don't ask citizenship. we don't have the data they are claiming to. they use that and exploit that so that we don't focus on the people's pain when they are suffering from a rape or the family suffering from the murder of a loved one. it is pretty despicable but
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again this is all preventable, we have to be willing to close our border. >> harris: we've put up some of the most recent violent crimes on our screen right now. how could we know the statistics of illegal immigrant crime when we can't vet all the people the biden administration has let in in the last 3 1/2 years. a ridiculous talking point on the left and insulting to people losing loved ones in this crime wave. >> it absolutely is. they don't care about that and aren't thinking about the victims. isn't that the mentality of the radical left that they focus more on the criminal. pretending the criminal is the victim and completely ignoring the victims themselves. it is part of this pattern. it is ideologically based and it is not going to stop until the voters say enough is enough. we won't keep these people in positions of power anymore. >> harris: you are talking about the soft on crime policies and now like a tapestry you can over
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lay the border crisis of more people committing crimes. remember those flipping the bird after they attacked nypd officers a couple of months ago here after they got in and out of our legal system and went by the cameras, the illegal immigrants, and flipped the birds to the cameras. it is a total experience now that we're having with those soft on crime policies. none good. i want to get to this. climate activists are choosing to use chaos and destruction to bread their message. watch. -- spread their message. watch. well, a group released this video showing protestors spraying orange paint all over england's ancient stonehenge. 5,000 years and 15 minutes of this. look at all that. police arrested both the vandals seen. one of them, this was breaking while i was on the air earlier this week, one of them was 73 years old. one of the activists.
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the other 21. you have a generational wave of hate with this. what they hate we're not quite sure. they don't love the environment or they wouldn't spew that stuff. british leaders called it a disgrace and pathetic. the same organization also took credit for damage to private jets at an england airport saying it intended to target a jet owned by taylor swift. that will get them to prison quickly, i would imagine. start targeting people. the latest in a wave of protests involving historic objects and paintings in recent years. jason, they have our attention but you can't convince me with corrosive substances you care about the environment. what is this really about? >> the worst people for the environmentalist movement are themselves. they push folks away from their cause. no one looks at this and says boy, they pushed me in the direction of wanting to get rid
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of all fossil fuels by 2030. the problem we're dealing with here is these are selfish narcissists. they don't actually care about the environment. they care about getting credit for people thinking they care about the environment. they do things like this. set up this world in which it is going to be destroyed in 12 years, right? aoc did this a few years ago. unless you pass this policy the world ends. they have set up this phony issue that they are going to say but i'm trying to save humanity. i am a hero, give me praise. it's all this is about. ironic, conservatives especially we care about the environment. the folks hunting and fishing and camping take care of the environment and want to do things that make us good stewards of the environment. no one wants to get on board a policy coming from these lunatics because they are so fringe. so they just get in the way. there are lots of things i think across the board we can all be doing to help the environment. having nothing to do with some
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of the alarmism out there but just being good citizens. they get in the way and they will constantly get in the way until at some point they will find out the hard way that people don't put up with this crap and when they get in front of people blocking them from getting to the office or getting home to see their kids or to the hospital, it's going to get violent at some point. i don't want to see that but they are pushing themselves into that and then they can claim they are even bigger martyrs to the cause. >> harris: we have to start adjudicating some of these situations. if they go after a taylor swift plane, that's not funny. no matter who it would be. stopping a parolee where he needs to get to go. the one guy caught in the traffic intersection during one of these, you know, activities, these actions or whatever they call them on the website and that cost that person livelihood. a mom in pain.
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it is too much. they don't care about humanity or the earth. you are right. you use the word narcissist. you are right. the u.s. supreme court has released new opinions this morning. of course, we're waiting for all that they have to do. they have a very full docket at this point. but especially waiting to hear the decision on former president trump's immunity case. and we were told it could come between now and next week so we are watching daily. a new louisiana law brings faith back to the classroom. liberal groups are fighting against it in the courtroom. kerri urbahn in "focus" next. ♪ i brought in ensure max protein with 30 grams of protein! those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks. -ugh. -here, i'll take that. woo hoo! ensure max protein, 30 grams protein, 1 gram sugar, 25 vitamins and minerals.
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>> harris: the first named storm of the hurricane season is bearing down on texas, tropical storm alberto already made landfall in mexico. fox weather's robert wray is in padre island, texas, robert. >> good morning to you and everyone watching from padre island along the coastline of texas. tropical storm alberto made
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landfall near mexico this morning. just turned into a tropical storm yesterday and the impacts have been tremendous. think about this. we're still seeing heavy surf here and a wind feel. rain intermittent on the coastline. three people have lost their life in mexico. here up in the united states yesterday was fairly intense at least in this part of the texas coastline. look at some of the video at about 7:00 central yesterday had some of the strongest bands came in and we just got walloped with sideways rain and some of those winds up to 50 mile-per-hour gusts up to ten inches of rain and storm surge moving into corpus christi bay and padre. not just to the southern end of texas, all the way to galveston and the bend in southwest louisiana. to think of about this, mexico, 400 to 500 miles to the south of where i'm standing and about
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1,000 miles from houston and galveston and the force of strength of this. ist is not over yet. we'll go through this the rest of the day and on top of that another system to the south developing and yet another tropical system potentially going to move into the florida coast, georgia and carolinas this weekend. buckle up. the beginning of what could be an unprecedented hurricane season 2024. >> harris: you've been telling us more months and reading about it and it is here now and you'll cover it. louisiana just became the first state in america to require the ten commandments be displayed in all public school classrooms. aclu and other groups plan to file a lawsuit saying the ten commandment law violates church and state and unconstitutional. republican louisiana governor landri. >> this bill mandates the display of the ten commandments
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in every classroom in public, elementary, secondary and post education schools in the state of louisiana. if you want to respect the rule of law, you have to start from the original law giver, which was moses. >> harris: gavin newsom took a shot at the state posting louisiana has the worst crime rate in the nation but this is their priority. i want to bring in fox news legal editor kerri urbahn. it is not actually leading the nation as the worst crime rate. it is bad in many places in the country, including louisiana. but the governor was not right about that. he should take a look at his own homeless problem in california and focus on that. >> yeah that is something he should take a look at. with respect to the new la in louisiana, it will be interesting. in the past the u.s. supreme court ruled a display of the ten commandments as long as it is with other historical documents
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or just references to things that have happened in the past that makes that further headed indicate those looking at it. i don't know what the classrooms look like in these public schools in louisiana. but i do think it is interesting that people are criticizing it as much as they are when, in fact, schools are also teaching things like boys can be girls and vice versa and people are upset about a code of conduct that says don't steal and lie and honor your parents. this is the thing that has gotten everyone up in arms. >> harris: a quick thought about this in terms of the separation of church and state. i know i'm talking with somebody now who can make sense of what it actually says and we have had, the pledge of allegiance and other things in classrooms that had faith rolled into them as well. >> that's right. you have to remember, too. our own u.s. supreme court if you are walking up the steps, you look up and you see moses with the ten commandments, at
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the department of justice as part of the mural there is moses with the ten commandments. a common thing in american history to include that. a reason why because the ten commandments is understood to be the basis of many law systems across the world that cuts across race, time and culture. it is a hallmark of both christianity and judaism and consistent with islam as well. the three big faiths. one has to wonder who exactly has an issue with it and if they say it is because it crosses a line because a child looking at this may think that religion is being imposed upon them, one would have to ask if you look at the classroom is there anything else that a child could think that about as well? how is this ten commandments and situated. on a poster according to the law. is it among other stay historical references, posters, literature and the like? if so it would make sense. >> harris: we'll move to this. u.s. supreme court and you just
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mentioned this, the whole moses story. that was helpful to put it into context historically. the u.s. supreme court issued four opinions today and we await their decision on former president trump's claim of immunity. we could get that tomorrow or in the coming days. there are three outcomes on the table. the first trump's claim is rejected clearing the way for a criminal trial. the second, the court rules in trump's favor, eliminating the federal charges against him. or a split decision requiring a judge to separate the actions trump took in his official capacity as president from those he took as a political candidate. kerri. >> i think both sides here have actually staked out more extreme positions on the end of the spectrum. you have donald trump who says absolute immunity always for everything. then you have the department of justice which is arguing no immunity for any acts ever committed by a president while in office, criminal acts. i find it hard to believe the
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supreme court will go either way on that and side completely with each. i think there may be some kind of splitting of the baby. i find it hard to believe they will say the president has no immunity but there is a possibility they could say there is some meeting in the middle here and we have to find a way to protect presidents so they aren't constantly looking under their shoulders making these difficult and discretionary decisions may maybe would have criminal implications but given the nature of what they do does not but not give them a blank check to do whatever they want. >> harris: two things, one was whether or not the court could just force a delay and say we won't consider it right now. a quick yes or no on that. >> the reason they took it they want to make a decision. the devil will be in the details. if they send it back where it gets tricky as far as what happens next for donald trump.
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>> harris: then the text touring, the differences between what falls under this for a president and what doesn't. you go to war and suddenly the whole world could come after your commander-in-chief. >> that's why the department of justice's position i just think is extreme here and i think the lower courts ruling saying no immunity ever is unreasonable and just doesn't work in the real world. >> harris: i have to let you go quickly. we have breaking news. always appreciate your time. thank you. this is breaking. at any minute the suspected killer of mother of five rachel morin in maryland, who we now know came into this country illegally, is set to arrive in maryland. he was extradited back to the state to face the rape and murder charges after being arrested in the state of oklahoma. we're all over the story four and it has been something we've been focused on. illegal immigrant violent crime this hour. "outnumbered" is next. aying in the navy that the toughest job in the navy is a navy wife.
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