you say you defend democracy, you don't even comply with the first two paragraphs of the constitution. you taken an oath chokehold nine times. you don't control legislation. you are running this country like a dictator. you're running this country out of the oval office. you don't get to change the nation through immigration, environmental laws, student loans. you don't get to divide the stream cream court and use her power of congress and then go into debate claiming i support democracy. no. a lot of crap. undermining democracy. you are destroying it. tomorrow night sunday on life, liberty and levin. ♪ ♪ ♪ if.

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rachel: good morning, everybody. it's 6:00 here in new york city, and we're so glad you're joining us, of course, following our beautiful national anthem and and all the great photos that you send in to us every single week. i think we might be the only show that takes viewer photos on a weekly basis and puts them up against the national anthem. everyone likes to watch and comment and and send us e-mails and send us more pictures the put on, right, will? will: and dvr the 6:00 hour. rachel: that's right, good morning. charlie: good morning.

will: yesterday we spoke about donald trump campaigning in blue states like minnesota or virginia, plague offense. rachel: yeah. will: one of the things that does is forces joe biden to play defense in states he wouldn't traditionally spend resources or time. but when it comes down to the election, both candidates immediate to be spending time ie in states like michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania. and that's where donald trump was yesterday, in pennsylvania, saying something we said yesterday right here which is if you win pennsylvania, you win the presidency. here's donald trump. >> few communities have suffered more under the biden regime than philadelphia. under crooked joe the city of brotherly love is being ravaged by bloodshed and crime. two weeks ago mine people were shot in a single -- nine people were shot in a single weekend including three teenagers so seriously hurt. murders in philadelphia reached their highest level in six

decades. retail theft in philly, i spend so much time here, is up 135% since i left office. the convenience store thes are closing down left and right. the pharmacies have to lock up the soap. it's soap. you want to buy a little bar of soap, you've got to go through a big deal, open up the glass, open up the steel. you can't keep a bar of soap. people walk in, they just take it. they want to silence me because i will never let them silence you! and in the end, they're not after me, they're after you are. i just happen to be standing in their a way. [cheers and applause] so you have a second very important function if. you have to, you know, if we win pennsylvania, we win the presidency. rachel: charlie, i didn't with properly welcome you. so welcome. thanks for filling in for pete, we love having you. one of the ore things -- other things it does going into a blue

state if your a presidential candidate, it changes your rhetoric in that you have to find all the topics and issues that are unifying, right? because you're in this crowd that is filled with not your traditional red state people. so crime is one of those. charlie: yeah. and trump always talks about this things that people actually care about -- [laughter] which is what gets him in trouble. and, obviously, he's in, as you point out, will, he's in a state that both sides want to win, but he is in a city, and cities are general generally pretty hostile. so he gets extra points for that. and i get that, you know, meanwhile, joe biden is sitting there doing debate prep if at camp david. and, you know, part of that is they're trying to lower the expectations by telling people, oh, he's practicing standing for 90 minutes. but the other thing is outside of the debate prep, these are two different campaigns. this is what a campaign is supposed to look like in june before an election. where is joe biden? where have you seen a joe biden

rally anything like this? they're not campaigning. they're trying to do the same thing that they did in 2020 because they're, like, well, it worked, let's do it again. but they're -- he's not campaigning. they're not running a campaign. it's the weirdest thing i have ever seen -- rachel: it worked last time, charlie. charlie: i think that's what they're thinking. will: it worked in 2020. donald trump also a stopped at tony -- charlie: mick and tony's? will: thank you, charlie. famous nick and tony's cheesesteak the restaurant where he left a $500 tip and wrote on the receipt, vote trump, no tax on tips. [laughter] rachel: that's what he's telling everyone to do, will. will: as they're chanting trump, trump, trump. rachel: he's telling everyone to do that, writ on the receipt. will: yeah. no tax on tips. charlie: what a showman. and then walks around and and showing the receipt to everyone.

he talks about how he's been prosecuted more than al pons if capone. [laughter] if he's got that sort of, you know, that demeanor, that -- rachel: well, that's a generational reference too, let's be honest. shar char is it? rachel: yeah. al capone? if you're a certain age -- will: here's a more contemporary reference and speak of the showmanship, did you see what he said last night ab dana white? if. rachel: that was the best! will: he's proposed they create a migrant request ufc league -- [laughter] and then you can set the migrant champion against the regular ufc champion. he said, i don't know, i think the migrant might win. [laughter] and my favorite part of it, my favorite part of it at the end he goes, not the worst idea i've ever had. rachel: can i tell you, will, i was reading that when i was in the makeup chair, and i just started laughing out loud, and my makeup artist and hair people

were, like, what's going on, and i said, oh, my god, it's not the worst idea i've ever had. will: what's great about that honesty, it's funny. i think this is the fundamental divide between the left and the right, do you take donald trump seriously or literally? the left takes him literally, and the right takes him seriously but not literally. i would not be shocked if cnn and m msnbc are running with the headline -- rachel: a cage fight between illegals and z citizens. charlie: count down right now, it's going to happen. [laughter] the things he doesn't get credit for, obviously, we recognize if how funny he is, the left are does not. but he's a great speaker, he gives great speeches. he's also incredibly, he's actually very -- he's self-aware and modest. [laughter] s it's not the worst idea i've had. it's all of that. rachel: but you know what? if really quick and i'll wrap that up because i did love that moment a lot, i'm so glad you brought that up, will.

but tucked in it is something really important which is these guys are violent. they could win in that cage fight. i'm not sure who would win. maybe you need donald trump to make sure those guys are out of the country. so that's also tucked into that message. it's brilliant. charles: he also conducted numerous policy including his vp pick, who should he pick for vice president. [inaudible conversations] >> nobody knows. who do you like as a vp? if. [inaudible conversations] >> who do you like? >> j.d. vance. >> you like j.k.? who do you like? who? who do you guys like as vp? [inaudible conversations] >> tom cotton! >> tom cotton. >> marco rubio! >> there's a lot of variance. [laughter] if. rachel: yeah. just, you know, getting a little bit of i guess you could call it

a poll test from thed crowd. charlie: and he also did it with asking people whether they like crooked joe or sleepy joe. rachel: yeah. which moniker's better. charlie: yes, exactly. rachel: j.d. vance, by the way, in the crowd it appeared from the reports that several people in the crowd were really excited about j.d. vance, and that would be a really interesting ticket, right? new york billion mare next to this guy who grew up, you know, sort of in the rust belt, in the poorest sort of conditions. and i think that do -- but also, obviously, has had a successful career in finance. so that combination, fascinating to me in a real sort of toss to or or nod to the working class. if. charlie: and the fact that he's younger also means it carries the agenda for, you know, eight more years past. rachel: i don't think there's an issue i don't with agree with j.d. vance on. will: there's no more dangerous place for us to be embracing dei

ideology than where it can literally cost lives. that's what's happening in oregon where they're saying microaggressions could cost you your job. doctors who are guilty of microaggressions could lose their medical license. this is a proposed rule. it reads, implicit and explicit bias including microaggressions or indirect or subtle behaviors that reflect if negative attitudes or beliefs about a non-majority group. this is the proif proposed rule and language, about how you would evaluate doctors when they've committed a microaggression. jonathan turley, who's a fox news contributor, said this was created to encompass a broad, ill-defined range of speech that follows outright discriminatory or harassing language. that makes for a dangerously vague standard for a mandatory reporting rule. the free speech -- how terms can be used to curtail speech including supporting complaints for formal investigations, often based on how language is received rather than intended.

it's all about how you think of how it lands, not i 40 it's delivered -- how it's delivered. rachel: i think this rule is for older doctors. my concern is like with teachers, the real problem is in the teachers' college. my if guess is that in medical schools, and i know this because i know kids who are in medical school, who have just come out of medical school, they have woke find in medical school, and they are punished if they don't go along. and so i think once those guys get out, you don't even need this rule. they'll just self-censor themselves. they already know the dee sort of way to -- dei way to behave with, and i think this is about the old guys and ladies who haven't gone on to the program. charlie: what a if you're an elderly patient and you have a doctor who is new to the country and you don't understand what they're saying -- will: what if you just need the blunt truth? rachel: right. will: overweight with, you need to lose weight.

charlie: that is a macroaggression to me. rachel: do you remember we had a professor from a medical school who was in trouble because she talked about biology, male and female. she got in trouble, and she was kicked out of medical school. the reason she got kicked out wasn't because the administration if was upset, the students turned her in. this comes back to what i'm saying. i think what's really scary is the self-censorship and the way that young people are internalizing all of this stuff. will: i was using the proverbial you. i wasn't saying you -- rachel: to oh, we're going to talk about that later. will: interesting conversation on fox and friends weekend. rachel: apparently, sean fat shamed me on air. we're going to get into that later. will: turning now to your headlines, a suspect has been arrested after a philadelphia officer was shot in the city's kensington neighborhood overnight. the suspect shot an officer in the neck after getting pulled over. the officer's now in critical

condition. philadelphia's police commissioner says he's turning to prayer. >> i sat in the awed a tore yum with about 75-100 men, and we paraded. today i ask the -- parade. today i ask -- prayed. i ask the people across philadelphia to pray. will: the suspect and three officers who were in the car were arrested. democratic new york congressman jamaal bowman if host a campaign event in the bronx alongside alexandria ocasio-cortez and vice president senator bernie sanders. this is days before the primary election. squad members usesed the event to continue to talk about the war in gaza. >> and we're going to keep going for a permanent cease fiver! [cheers and applause] ceasefire! ceasefire now! ceasefire now! rachel: did you share your wardrobe with bowman? [laughter] will: i did have is a sleeveless shirt on yesterday. rachel: is that campaign gear now?

does that pass for campaign attire? will: pretty vulgar language. rachel: yeah, the muscle shirt was the least offensive. will: the house primary race is on tuesday, the midwest if expensive ever as both candidates have spent $23 million if on ads. all right, happening today, one of the nba's -- wnba's fiercest rallies, caitlin clark's indiana fever takes on angel reese's sky. the young we mom saying i'm pretty sure the only people who view this as a rivalry is all of you. clark is looking for her third straight win, tipoff set for 4 p.m. eastern time x.those are your headlines. rachel: i think caitlin clark is turning out to be one of the greatest christian examples in sports. her ability to turn the other

cheek, to always look at the positive and assume the best in everybody, in people when who probably don't deserve to be assumed the best in, i'm amazed by her. and as a fellow catholic, i'm super proud of her. will: she's impressive. charlie: she definitely has class. rachel: no question about it. will: gen-z, turns out gen-z -- rachel: i love this story. will: 18-29? rachel: yeah. will: feels like -- charlie: to 27, but i thought i was the only person, everybody says -- will: generations are roughly 15 years, so maybe it's 12-27 but adult gen-zers starting at 18, among those individuals, less than 1 in 5 own their own home or are married to a homeowner. so 18%? between the anal of 18-29 -- age of 18-29. rachel: this is the most shocking statistic, will.

half of gen-z -- by the way, i have 3 in my house. they're not at my house anymore. one's in college, two are married, but they are gen-zers, and this is interesting. half of u.s. adult men and women under the age of 25 live at home still. and, listen, i'm married to an immigrant mom who was from, my mother's from spain, and we used to laugh about a europeans, that they always lived at home, you know? because kids, when they were 18 and in college, the american thing was you go and live away. it was, you know, the mama's boys were the europeans, if and now we have because of the economy a lot of people living at home these days. charlie: but if you're in college, does that mean you live at home? rachel: no, i mean post college, after college. charlie: you don't get to come home after you graduate college. will: what if you continue, you stay in school? charlie: it's out of the nest.

rachel: fly, fly, fly. fly, fly, fly. charlie: flap. will: how old were you when you bought your first home? charlie: well, i rented for a long time. i should have bought, but i didn't with buy right away because the idea, like, the idea of taking a loan, i was, like, i'm can -- rachel: so how old were you when you bought your first home? charlie: i was probably in my late 20s. rachel: yeah. me too. charlie: i wish i had done it when i was 21 because i would have worked on the house, i would have flipped houses and done that at night. that's the way to do it. rachel: yeah. well, gen-zers are angry about the fact that they can't, that they are not in a position to own a home now, and they don't see it in the future. and that is rising to be the number one everybody shaw for young people. feels like it's gaza and the war in israel. oh, no. home ownership and the cost of living is a big deal,ing and i think it's going to dominate this campaign. all right. we're moving to this, a victory for life two years later.

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>> we've been going back and forth with the d.a. trying to get them to reconsider maintaining the count i felony. they want to, if and when he presents himself to court, they want to drop it to just the misdemeanor battery against the injuries he caused my father. and the reason for that, he said that there was no ill intent to -- as he's fighting my father, you can see there he pushes her with his body, he's the guy in white, and drops her down and she hits her head. and because he said that he didn't physically stand up to push her, that there was no intent. so that's why he wants to remove the charge. he can't remove it until we go to court and mr. green presents himself which we've gone to court three times already, and he hasn't presented himself. will: so just make sure i understand correctly, and elle put this to you, william.

so we're seeing this video on the screen. this man attacks your grandfather, i believe, correct? your grandfather, and your grandmother steps in and tries to do something to stop there, she's in the black shirt. and when she attempts the defend her husband, she goes to the ground, hits her head. it's left her with brain damage. she's on life support, as i understand it now, and the d.a.'s saying because he didn't stand up to push her down because she tried to intervene and she ended up because he initiates this fight hitting her head on the pavement, that's not a climb? >> yeah. -- a crime? >> yeah. he, they're pretty much saying that his one-on-one altercation was just with my grandpa, and they kind of made it seem like it was her fault for getting out of the car and trying to defend my grandpa even though, i mean, his age and the man -- i believe he's -- >> in his 30s. >> early 30s, i believe. and my grandpa's 67?

>> 74. >> 74, i'm sorry. they made it sound, well, it would have been safer if she stayed in the car. she got out to help him, and it's not like she got out to fight the man. she can barely see as it is -- >> she's blind. >> she's partially blind. so she went out there essentially, if you see her, she's slowly walking, trying to make her way towards my grandpa's voice of him in pain is and trying to, essentially, plead for the man to get off and stop hurting my grandpa. and during the scuffle he bumps into her, drops her, but they're saying, well, he never intended to push her. it was just -- will: incredible. >> she was part of it by accident because she was somewhere where she shouldn't be, that's essentially what they told us. will: veronica, how do you feel? like, if you -- you said you talked to the office of the district attorney. what would you say to him? how do you feel about the way the law is handling this crime? >> i feel helpless.

i feel -- i told the district attorney i feel like if you guys are -- we have to fight with the district attorney for them to do their job. and i told them you guys can't look at it as a number, another case to just quickly get through the courts. you have to look at it with a human touch of the damages that this man has caused our family. the worst possible scenario happened by him committing the attack that he did on my stepmother. he's just going to walk free with no consequence. because of the changes that have been brought in by mr. gascon. will: here's what the office of mr. gascon is saying. they're saying the evidence does not establish proof of an intentional act that resulted in ms. virginia gas' fall. really quick, william, last word to you, what would you say to george gascon? >> i just want to say that it's ridiculous.

when it comes down to it, charles green, the man who attacked my grandfather, was the one who walked up to their car in that drive through and just started punching my grandfather. all this domino effect from him standing up one day and deciding, you know what? i'm going to go attack an elderly couple. is so i don't with care what he says of whether there was ill intent or not, he, his actions has my step-grandma in the hospital, and they told us that there's no hope of her waking up. so -- will: yeah. veronica, we thank you for being with us this morning. our thoughts and prayers are with your family, your grandparents, your parents, veronica, and we wish you guys the best and hope you receive some justice out there in california. thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. will: all right. the trump team is ramping up its ground game with the recent influx of cash in two traditionally-democratic strongholds. we'll tell you which states could be could be in play next. ♪

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minnesota by 7. the last time virginia went republican presidentially was two decades ago. but for this to be that close really speaks to a couple of things. first and foremost, biden's weakness with traditional blocs, if you will, that tend to vote for blue presidential candidates. we know he's weak among younger voters which is very unusual, but we know that, we certainly know that in minnesota if given the gaza protest votes earlier this year, but we see him slipping in strength the among other bachs, for example if, among black and latino voters where these pronounced issues that are core in this campaign are reaching crisis level. and i'm speaking specifically about cost of living. they're just remarkable, and the biden campaign has not done a good with job of illustrating any strength in that space. rachel: yeah, they don't even recognize it. their strategy is to say it's not happening. also young voters, right? >> absolutely.

young voters or are more disaffected, and i mentioned -- i noticed you mentioned this earlier in the show, and you're absolutely right that the cost of living crisis is more than just staplings. i mean, that's massive when you're going to buy groceries, fuel and so forth. but it extends to things like home ownership. and gen-z is less and less likely to consider home ownership in the immediate future, and i have focus group people regularly who for them depending on what state they live in, it's not something they're considering for their lifetime. it's amazing. will: justin, you talk about campaigning in states that are sort of on the edge offense, minnesota, virginia, maybe even new york. we're reporting that one poll, maris, i believe, has it within 8 points in new york, it's always a measure of time and money. can i sacrifice time and money to try to win one of these states where i should be spending it maybe in pennsylvania or michigan. it's kind of interesting, when it comes to time, donald trump has a lot of energy, and he keeps giving more and more rallies. he's not a tradition allocate in

that way. i guess it come down to money, is it money well spent for republicans to go after minnesota and virginia who? absolutely. with polling numbers like this, you would be remiss not to. and speaking of money, both candidates are, you know, solid fundraisers. biden is no slouch at this by any means. but if you look at the most recent numbers, of course, from this past week, this past month, president trump is up roughly $505-60 million -- 50- 60 million which is a tremendous amount of money, and that gives him -- yes, i know he's spent a lot of that on legal challenges that continue to go on, but that is a tremendous war chest that he can now deploy to those spaces where he is in a that test call tie. he's absolutely got to go after those states, and they are real possibilities to win in november. charlie: you know, one last thing that i thought was really interesting, you mentioned to our producers that you thought the that republicans had overplayed this this the biden is old meme. what do you mean by that?

and this sort of leads me to one of my theories is that joe biden would rather talk about his age a than the issues. is that what's going on there? >> that -- you're exactly right. and it is time for the campaign, whichever side you're on, to really start talking about issues. everybody, all voters know both candidates. no one's surprised that joe biden is old, no one is surprised that donald trump has legal issues. but they must start talking about the issues that matter, and they -- neither has a really done that to the extent that they have to win in november. they've got to really start speaking to these issues in a way that translates to voters' everyday worries, concerns, hopes and fears. rachel: you know, justin, that's such a good point, and i think donald trump in his rallies and also several long-form podcasts that he's on, something i don't think joe biden could even do for that long, they are so issue-heavy. hopefully, he'll get more credit for that, because i do think he

is doing that, and joe biden will have to catch up. justin, thanks for joining us. great information. will: thank you. >> thank you for having me. rachel: all right. a victory for life two years later. tomorrow marks the anniversary of the supreme court overturning roe v. wade. so what is still left to be done? we'll talk about that next. ( ♪ ♪ )

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rachel: fox weather alert, iowa governor kim reynolds is urging residents in the north western part of the state to evacuate because of flood being. homes in sioux county are underwater after days of heavy rainfall, flooded rivers to record-breaking levels. let's turn now to chief meteorologist rick reichmuth for our fox weather forecast. rick: good morning. we've had a lot offed flooding events, so to hit record-breaking levels certainly is a big story, if this is why. worthing, south dakota, over 17

inches of rain in just 3 days. all of that water will flow into the streams and the bigger rivers around it. and with that we've got all of these areas that you see here in the purple, that's at record level ever. most of this water's going to drain out into the missouri river, slowly moving to the mississippi if river which is also getting rain coming from areas a little bit part off towards the east that will more immediately drain into the mississippi river. this right here though, this is the front that is now beginning to have some impacts on the temperatures. notice today we do have a severe weather threat including across parts of northern new england, a tornado or two later this afternoon, rachel. the good part is this will drop our temperatures down at least in the mid-atlantic and the northeast, the heat wave ends after today. rachel? rachel: thank you, rick. rick: you bet. rachel: donald trump is highlighting the historic roe v. wade ruling ahead of tomorrow's 2-year anniversary as the abortion issue takes center stage in the democrats' fight for the white house.

>> thanks to these justices, we have also achieved what the pro-life movement fought to get for 49 years, and we've gotten abortion out of the federal government and back to the statements. [cheers and applause] states. the way everybody and all a legal scholars always said it should be. if. [applause] nobody nobody if thought that would happen. rachel: live action founder and president lila rose joins us now. lila, always great to have you on. i never thought that would happen in my lifetime. i remember when that -- i'll never forget, it was on my daughter's wedding day when the announcement if came. and if to me, it was just the most remarkable day for so many reasons. so what's left to do? i know we have, like, 14 states, are republican states that have listen almost -- an almost total ban on all stages of abortion. what to do you as a movement think is the next phase of this battle for life in. >> it was a historic overruling

for the supreme court to finally deal such a huge blow to roe v. wade and allow 14 states, like you mentioned, rachel, to almost completely ban abortion. it's estimated 44,000 -- 44,000 -- 144,000 children would have otherwise been aborted if not for the overruling of roe v. wade. so really this is the beginning of a new fight, a fight to completely abolish abortion in this country. that dream can be realized now with the fact that roe v. wade has been overruled. so the fight is on in the pro-life movement. and the fact that 14 states have already largely accomplished this is a huge step in the right direction. rachel: huge. >> so the movement is more energized than ever before. rachel: yeah. and pit seems to me -- by the way, it's so interesting, kate can cohen in "the washington post" wrote an op-ed, i think it was, i don't know if it was this morning or yesterday, basically warning the -- mourning the fact that birthrates have gone up in some of these republican states. it's unbelievable. seems to me that the next phase

is really the hearts and minds, right? the legal stuff, it's into the states. of course you have to deal with that, but how do you change hearts and minds in that's where the real battle is. >> yeah. so, listen, i believe with my whole heart we can end abortion if in this country. but like you say, it's going to take not only having legal protections for the preborn in state after state, but it also takes changing hearts and minds. we have to help the public understand that the heart is beating at just three and a half if weeks after conception. this is a human being that is growing. the science is crystal clear on that. if we can help people understand that this is a human life, that abortion kills that human life, that women deserve better and families deserve better and and help them see the thousands of pregnancy if resource centers that are available to help women is and families in need, that we don't need abortion. as women, that is actually an offense against our dignity too and that children deserve the right to life as our constitution propses under the 14th amendment a -- promises. i think we can see a cultural

renewal in this country as well as the cultural changes that roe v. wade's overruling has made possible. rachel: one of the things your organization has done that i think is super powerful, the left and the pro-abortion with lobby uses euphemisms the mask what really happens in an abortion. and one of the things you've done very effectively is give the most amazing view into the womb. it's, the project is called baby olivia, am i correct about that? >> yes. baby olivia who has been viewed over 50 million times online and now in states across the country are adopting laws to put baby olivia a in public school classrooms, the most life-like vision of life in the womb and the beautiful journey from conception until birth. rachel: yeah. i encourage everyone, google baby olivia, it's just remarkable on the miracle of life, and it puts the abortion debate on the proper footing. based in science and facts.

and i thank you for putting that out there, it's remarkable. lila, thanks for always coming on and also for your continued fight for life are. >> thank you, rachel. rachel: you got it. unexpected catch. what started as a day on the water with a friend turned into a full-on rescue mission of 38 dogs. the hero fisherman joins us next. ♪ ♪

charlie: right place at the right time, a group of fishermen are being hailed as heroes after rescuing 38 dogs from from a mississippi if lake. if it happened at granada lake during a fox hunt where the dogs were chased -- had chased a deer at least a half mile from shore. those fishermen, bob, brad and their guide, gordon, join us now. gentlemen, thank you for joining us. i have to ask you, jordan, when you all were out there fishing, you said you first heard the

dogs while you all were actually not catching fish, and you thought, man, something doesn't sound is right about that. how did you even know to go look for them? >> 'cuz i grew up hunting my whole life, that's what i've done, it's what i love to do. i just knew that whenever i heard 'em, it sounded like they were in front of me in the water, and i was, like, i need to go check on them. and that's just what we did. we checked on 'em and got 'em out of there. charlie: did you see the deer or how did you know they were chasing a deer? >> because a coyote or a fox normally don't hit the water and a deer will. charlie: gotcha. so, bob, tell me, when you all arrived on the first batch of dogs, were they -- they had to be, obviously, they were frantic and terrified. were they terrified of you all or were they happy to get into the boat with you? >> no, sir. when we first if arrived out

there -- and, to be honest, there was dogs everywhere. and and we, we had to figure out what we were going to do, and and we figured very quick that we were going to have to get 'em in the boat because there was a problem. and jordan included us in the process immediately by saying a little short line, and we knew immediately we ad had to act. and from people contacting us across the globe, it's just the most dogs they've ever heard of getting rescued. it was just one line, and what he said was, boys, we're about to get wet. [laughter] and so we began pulling those dogs in, and the rest is history after that. charlie: and you grabbed each one by the collar? they were glad to see you, glad to be onboard? >> oh, yes, sir. expect longer -- on the third, you know, second trip they were more wanting to get in that boat, and on the third trip they were excited to get in that boat. charlie: or so when you returneu

returned the dogs to the dry land, obviously, the owner was there to greet you and was grateful. did they give you all a reward or anything? >> no, sir. they tried to, but being from the south we just -- [laughter] especially in the hunting and fishing world, you know things happen unexpectedly. we were just there to help out, right place, right time. they extended money for the help. however, you know, it was declined, and i think jordan told 'em, hey, we're going to need a favor someday, y'all please help us out. charlie: there you go. i hate to even ask this question, but i've got to know, were all the dogs accounted for by the end of the day? >> every one of them. shar california that's amazing. and it took you three trips? you had to go back two more times after that first rescue? >> yeah. after the first one, we dropped the first ones off and then i knew -- i could see some more out there, so we just turned

around and went back and got those, and when we got if back, he said, hey, man, i've got a dog i've got on my gps, do you mind taking me out there? charlie: you mentioned that you all had heard a lot from people all over the world. what's the reaction been like? >> it's, as you can imagine, it's overwhelming, especially for the last week. we've heard from people as a far away as germany, great britain -- [laughter] england. i mean, canada. and they, every time we refresh our facebook pages, there's 100, 2000 comments on there every -- 200 0 comments, and it's just everywhere because people need a nice story, and this is the one of them. charlie: well, everybody loves dogs, so thank you all very much. you did a great day's work there. >> thank you. >> appreciate it. charlie: don't move, karoline leavitt, trump's 2024 national press secretary, is coming up.

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