reference ends with both biden and from supporters view the debate is a major test for their candidate or just a spectacle. i don't know about you brett but of our release today to hear about debate viewing parties. e1 yes a lot of them. what campaigns are doing them all over the country, and ethic a lot of people are just going to get their popcorn ready, maybe a cocktail and watch. >> exactly, and they are already choosing which words they might hear the most to have a sip of eliminate. to be with you think is what you're helping us out again. writes that your dd i never missed american reports be think so much for doing a same sandra. >> and i am bright, i was eating at 6:00 pm eastern for special report, in the story with martha starts right now, greatly with you sandra. >> and i will be with you guys tomorrow night, with forward to that's. we will all be watching every word as that debate plays out in front of millions of people. so good afternoon of buddy and martha maccallum, and this is the story for today.

dhs secretary may arc us on the ground in arizona. he was pressed to answer questions about the recent murders allegedly committed by people here illegally. also about the eight suspected terrorists with ties to isis who illegally entered the country, and are now in ice custody. new reporting that the men may have been plotting a possible terrorist attack here on u.s. soil. that is very concerning. also today, it gets better. dhs sources telling fox that more than 400 people have been smuggled into the country by isis affiliated networks who work the border over the past several months. dhs secretary may arc us win he was confronted with that of all these pieces of information he said that's not exactly true. watch. >> that reporting is incorrect, we do not have identified for hunter people with potential

asis ties. and let me again assure you that individuals who are identified it to have those ties would pose a concern to us from a public safety and a security perspective. and they would be priorities for detention, and removal. >> martha: paul moreau spent years working in counterterrorism. first to correspondent matt finn who was on the ground in tucson asked a question of secretary may arc us as that news conference has just wrapped up. hi. >> hi my thigh, a short while ago i asked secretary maury oak us about this new information and reporting that at least 400 migrants with potential asis ties recently arrived here in the united states. the secretary -- took issue with that question. he said it is inaccurate, i asked him if he wanted to dispute the reporting entirely, and he said it is inaccurate. know to be clear, i asked him about weather these migrants have potential asis ties, reporting information might just

be that these migrants were brought in through and isis related network, so he may have taken issue with the way i ask the question, but of these migrants are being brought in through and isis related network really begs the question if any of these migrants have isis related ties. know to be clear earlier today, dhs confirmed to fox news that more than four hard people are brought into the u.s. from eastern europe and central asia via an isis affiliated smuggling network. more than 150 have been arrested. dhs would not confirm how many, if any were on the terror watch list. there are 50 of those people who are considered at large, would dhs insist, they are not threats. short while ago here in tucson they said that president biden's recent executive orders on immigration have triggered a plummet in illegal immigration encounters at the border. >> these actions are changing the calculus for those considering crossing our border. still, as i will continue to

make clear, they are no substitute for congressional action. >> in light of all the recent of elements, putting the homicides here in the united states by illegal migrants, and also this new reporting about potential asis ties. migrants alert and hearing to the united states, i also asked the secretary if he thinks that american people are buying. that our border is entirely secure. would not answer the quest he punted that questions that he has answer that before pure mark that. >> martha: a lot of new information since the last time he entered as. thank you very much matt good question for the dhs secretary today. lesbian paul moreau, report retired nypd -- years years of experience working in counterterrorism, he also ran all the nypd's intelligence cases. paul great to have you with us. so when you watch this news conference, and you hear about the men from two tickets then, you hear about the isis affiliates, have scent 400 people across the border, if you

were still doing counterintelligence in new york city, would be concerning you? >> will try to advance the story a little bit, first lesson i would have is with these part of the 400 you are talking about. because as he tries to put an air gap between isis and the 400, you can see how would he is wordsmithing and right? he sang well and that they're not necessarily isis tied et cetera. of people don't realize is that terrorist groups need money. there is a profit motive embedded in it. is like the mafia they have to make money, but they do it for their operations not for the profit move. so it is possible that isis is just doing some human trafficking here. but think about this now. we have eight guys who are loose in this country, and here is the nuance, they are being held currently on immigration charges, not on terrorism charges. know the pick up something on a wire relative to bombs. i don't know if that's a wire overseas or something or if it was a domestic wire relative to something criminal. but somebody was three different field officers through fbi field officers, they had to prematurely say take the what we got. took them in immigrations even

get into the phone to see if we can do the briefly the flip somebody. but right now, they don't have terrorism charges, which means they had to take it prematurely. that is an indicator of how much trouble they thought this was, because you don't want to do that, but to get to be too hard to cover and you can't risk it. and that also indicates to you the pressure that the federal government were doing their job is under here. we hit the fbi leadership hear plenty that's the people inside the beltway, i can tell you the fbi agents in these field offices of the stuff with them. they are up all hours of the nice, was asked to make a lot of money then a making overtime. there are many and win women of all hours chasing people around, monitoring wires trying to prevent something from going boom. and ultimately that to pull the plug prematurely. >> we'll bethink them for those efforts. and they work extraordinarily hard, because they want to keep people safe. as you say, the motivation is not money, the motivation is not having another 911, or any similar incident here in the united states. this is mike morale, the former cia director who wrote a piece

on the red flags, and blinking lights that he sees going on everywhere. here's what he had to say about the feedback he got when he put that out there. >> i ran into a lot of current former that's my current intelligence officers and current policymakers after we published article. the response was a most universal, and we are glad you wrote this, it's really important. i read that as, maybe there is a lack of a sense of urgency here. >> martha: okay,, so he is speaking carefully, but what really jumps out at the end of that is that he is warning the administration, there is a lack of a sense of urgency. and you heard him say owe the safety and security of the american people is our top priority. atul we are all about, basically but you shouldn't be too concerned we got it all under control. >> the term of the something about america's picky set the tone for this discourse with this nation very early. in 2021, he came out and swore to the factually untrue canard

that border patrol was whipping haitian migrants as they came over the nation. and into the nation. of the new york post reported, they knew at the time it wasn't true. if you think his own people are going to support him now, i know that if a thing about law enforcement but i know enough went to know when you've lost your agency. as far as the article goes. and a, one it's the two authors on the. one of them is graham allison, he was my professor up in harbin. he's a brilliant guy, he might have some issues with him because he was the one who drove the 51 who said this was a fake russian operation et cetera. but that that i can tell you, had some experience with him. he knows what he is talking about. these are people who have spent their lives examining the stuff, and i actually interpret that article a little bit differently. i thank it was a subtle shot across the bow to tell the biden administration wake up this border thing isn't working. hinted that an article i read the piece. but i think that's really going on here.

>> and here is someone who said it more directly. this can much today from the special operations association of america. they sent out an open letter, these are former seals green berets rangers, who has an association want to make their concerns known based on their own history of all of the work that they do in this area. so they sent, the risk is compounded by develop it's in the middle east i.e. hamas, around their proxies, and the poor is unsecured southern border through which we seen numerous instances of individuals on terror watch lists, and others from adversarial countries attempt to enter the united states, and those are the ones that we know about because only they were detected. they only detected six and a six to five. >> two things real quick. first of all, a lot of soft assets potentially here if you look at to do an outside attack because you've all these kids that are doing the gaza stuff on the campuses et cetera. and whether they are waiting or not, they could be an assist to you, but let's not remember where the rubber hits the moral

wrote here. look at the crime, we are already getting hit. they are essentially via weapons. they're sending us at their worst of their worst coming into this country, everyday wake up to a new biden border monster. i don't like about it too much, i have a website where we track all the migrant crime. to have people working with me. we can't keep up. it is underway now, and to me, that is a form of terrorism. >> paul thank you what's the name of it? >> off stats.org, we're checking migrant crime to the extent that you can pick. >> and what you do with at it from -- and permission? >> hopefully speak with the neck up on its. >> i'm just one guy. >> martha: thank very much paul moreau always get happy with his. while this is our exclusive unterman and activist paris hilton who was on is on a continuing crusade to advocate on behalf of children, particularly in facilities like the one that she was in at the age of 16. >> when i was 16 years old was ripped from my bed in the middle

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often these acts of censorship right in the legal protection social media companies need to exist section 230. >> martha: supreme court striking down today a lower court ruling that found the biden white house, and other federal agencies likely violated the first amendment by pressuring social media companies to censor, or remove posts an account they didn't agree with. stanford medical school professor doctor jay was part of that lawsuit, and learned via the twitter files that matched iep and other put out there, and his account had been slapped with a quote trends black with label for daring to counter dr fauci and others about what he saw as harmful covert era lockdowns. the doctor joins me now. it's been great have you with us today dr, and we all followed very closely your prescriptions during covert, which were very different then the lockdowns

that were instituted all around us. and you sought to get your great barrington proclamation out there, of the information that you had about the harmful effect of all these lockdowns, and that he got slammed with this black list that took you down. what is your reaction to this decision by the supreme court today? which would not in your favour clearly. >> we lost 6-3. the reasoning the supreme court used was that we lacked standing. that is a very, very important reasoning because what it says is that, in order to the first amendment to work, you have to be able to prove that the government went to the social media companies and said sensor him. what allows the government to do is to go to social media companies and say, sensor people saying that closing schools harms children. sensor people that say that there is an immunity after covert recovery. sensor people that say that there are people who were vaccine injured. and then the government can just say do that so they can threaten

the social media companies, and apparently the supreme court think that that is consistent with the american first amendment. essentially, in effect the first amendment is a dead letter, because the supreme court has said that there is no one who has standing and less they are specifically called out to stop them from violating the first amendment via proxies that is via the social media companies. >> martha: so thomas alito it ended other were among the dissent, and a majority of it was were to buy at justice amy cohen event and she says what you just said, of the plaintiff's rely on allegations of past government censorship as evidence that each of censorship is likely, what they fail by and large to link their past social restrictions to the defendants give indications and platforms. i understand that you disagree with that, and i would just remind everybody about the twitter back-and-forth. we can put some of these up, but with the government, and twitter physically saying, we are concerned about these, we would like you to take them down, on the response was handled.

so this weekly meetings that we heard about. what are your concerns about this decision? and you thank it can be rectified in the future? >> so the government essentially acted like mob bosses. that's exactly what the appeals court said. was like they likened it to al capone threatening the social media companies very existence if they didn't comply with the censorship orders. they were not acting voluntarily, to acting under duress. by government. the government essentially acted to protect itself from criticism, malik at a about its own misinformation. and it it soundly behind the scenes. but the centres and this was like a quite sensible, a sense of what it says, this is a green light for the government to censor. and the government will take it that way, because there is no standing for people to sue and say look you are in the letter to censor it. the first amendment the longer has viable presence in the courts of this nation under this ruling. and if you can't use past violations of the first

amendment as evidence of potential future violations, what could you use? it doesn't make any sense. the reasoning of the court here makes literally no sense, it is saying yes, they did censor me in the past, but who knows if they will in the future? we shouldn't join them from essentially abiding by the first amendment in the future. is a very disheartening day for this country. >> martha: you wrote a lot of your thoughts on covid and the wall street journal and other places. and people got to read them. but when they found their way onto twitter and other social media accounts, they were slapped with this label. dr fauci says show me a school that i shut down and never told the school to shut down, and now we see they just continuing damage and our children across this country. as a result of these actions, which i know you are very much against, doctor thank you. go ahead final thoughts? >> if we had the first amendment we would have better policy. first amendment protects the health of americans and decided that we don't have that in this

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>> martha: friday here we go folks to the homestretch to tomorrow night cnn presidential debates. president biden is set to be hunkering down with a coaching team of familiar faces at camp david. getting ready, there are some of the folks were helping him do that, while former president trump heads into tomorrow with a new advantage, and some new pulling over biden in five out of seven battleground states. had in michigan, north carolina, nevada arizona, and georgia. tied in pennsylvania according to the washington post pulling averages". swinging can release russell wall street journal columnist and david carlucci former democratic new york state senator. good to have you both with us. we also can share that most americans plurality of americans say that they plan to watch

tomorrow night. kimberly, you look at these new polls that just came out, and also the fact that nate silver is saying that that presidential race is no longer a tossup, but of course i guess that could change after tomorrow night. >> yes, and don't just look at these polls martha, look at the ones from four years ago, which is what i think really matters. if you look back then, biden was leading in six out of those seven states. meant by a lot, but he was certainly leading and those leads grew as time went on. and we instead see a very different dynamic. now things are completely switched. donald trump is far ahead of where joe biden was at this time four years ago. know that is obviously a function of the president, and his fairly dismal track record and the dissatisfaction of americans out there. but, we have also seen some pull tightening just recently as well. which is also a warning to republicans that, this is not necessarily a cakewalk, and a reminder that incumbents still

do have a lot of advantages when it comes to reelections. >> indeed, there is president right and not on the right-hand side of your screen right now set to be getting ready with a lot of policy experts, and people that he is working with. david, as you look to tomorrow night, what you think is the most important job for him? what does he have to land tomorrow night? >> i think you are right, this debate matters and most debates usually do, because we always watch political pundits, we love the stuff, what you're going to have more people tune in for the first time in this campaign. that research poll, say that only four out of ten americans, are not paying attention. so this is drawing new eyeballs, so i think it's really about the style as opposed to the substance. and that is unusual. usually i wouldn't say that, but in this case it is about performance, it is about, is biden capable of doing the job? and i know he is on a policy

point of view, but i think the american people want to see that he is physically capable, and keeping up with donald trump, we know that donald trump was going to throw some zingers try to get them rattled, so if he can deliver, state comp, cool and collected, that is what's going to matter most in this debate tomorrow. >> can really way looking for tomorrow night? >> i am going to look to see, and i think is what a lot of republicans are watching to see, was in the political realm, whether or not donald trump remembers that this is not a campaign rally. because those people are already all for him. rather, this is about getting those unconvinced voters to come to his side. and for all those poll numbers, you just showed, they are not necessarily as strong as they could be, or should be for president trump, given just how high joe biden's disapproval rating is. and that suggests that donald trump, you need to rebuild some competence among in particular suburban, and moderate republican voters, those who went for haley during the primary, also potential

crossover voters, were really unhappy with biden, but still aren't sure they entirely trust donald trump. the question is, does he get pulled, and debated into where joe biden wanted to go? which is conversations about stolen elections, in january 6, and things that make him look unhinged. or whether or not he does what he needs to do which is make this a referendum on joe biden's track record and performance. >> martha: so david, what happens if trump does that? if he pivots win the january 6 issues come up, and he says look you know what, that was then and this is now. i am looking to the future. and if you guess want to dwell on that that is fine, but i want to talk about what is happening in the future and you. the mic and butter. >> it will be surprising to see that's. we watched some of the rallies that donald trump has been doing, and he will rift for an hour, two hours, but he is talking about conspiracy theories, is talking about shark attacks, he's talking about everything but what people in

the middle line here. >> martha: it seems like that's what we see at rallies but then we see different versions of, with time on capitol hill talking about regulations, and taxes, and someone all in podcast talking about china. >> the has a very low bar. >> martha: did you think he gets that there were tomorrow night it's of the more serious then a rally? >> yes, it's very clear, all he has to do is make amends, oak to the middle, talk about policies you're going to do for the future. talk about how you are going to win over independence, moderate, try to reach across that i'll. all donald trump has done for the past year's play to his base. he's gone hyperspeed. of time he says look at joe biden. what is he gaining there? nothing? and that's a good thing we have. the blessing and donald trump. he is a gift that keeps giving. the talk about joe biden being a gaffe machine. donald trump is eating his own words all the time, but he's not calling them at the pixel see

them under a micro so tomorrow night. >> was it about the little extra. i gotta go, but he says the vice presidential. maybe in the room. who is your. >> i don't know, look one of the best ideas would be nikki haley or for instance a glenn young someone who can appeal to those moderate voters. >> martha: from what we hear they aren't on the shortlist but you never know. later the former president has a surprise of his leave. so we will see. david carlucci kim very great have you both your think you so much. so when angel mom whose only son was murdered by a known gang member was in the country illegally. of violent migrant crime, including the heinous murder of a 12-year-old jocelyn and why she says this is a mom says that the biden administration has blood on their hands, where these deaths are concerned.

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>> can ask you quickly with a 12-year-old girl in houston who was tortured? >> i don't know who you are to know who she is i live in pittsburgh. >> there was a child who was killed. >> i don't know any thing about that's. >> even know about the child that was killed by illegal immigrants? >> martha: so that's hilary vaughan pressing democrat lawmakers on capitol hill about the murder of 12-year-old jocelyn. the suspects, both here in the united states illegally. the funeral services for this young girl will be held tomorrow. angel mom agnes give me sun ronald was killed by a man also here in the u.s. illegally. and she says that 22 years later, her pain lives on. first correspondent nate foy in houston. hi nate. >> hi martha, at this point in houston texas, the arraignments

are over, they'll has been set for each of the illegal migrant suspects, the $10 million, next part in this horrific reading process is laying 12-year-old jocelyn to rest. funeral start tomorrow at 2:00 pm eastern time, of course her family will be there. houston mayor john whitmire we'll attend law texas senator ted cruz posted on! " america is grieving with the familyf jocelyn. she should be here with us today. we are all looking up her family in our prayers. justin's mother alexis attended the arraignments for both illegal migrants charged with murdering her daughter. she called the monsters, and said they ripped jocelyn away from her. she also said this on hannity last night. >> we have to stop burying our kids. it's not right. we have to have more reinforcement when it comes to letting people in. this is not okay. it's not okay. >> reporter: prosecutor say

26-year-old franklin admitted to kissing the 12-year-old girl. while his codefendant johan admitted to tying her up, and throwing her body in the water to get rid of dna evidence. >> this little girl, she was tortured strangled and thrown in the river like a ragdoll. not what america to wake up. this could come to your wife, your daughter, your sister your grandmother. it could happen to you. >> reporter: investor ghettos in a looking into any possible gang affiliations for either of the two men. both of whom are from venezuela. we will be at jocelyn's funeral tomorrow, is this community honours per life taken too soon. martha. >> thank you very much. so back in 2002 ronald desilva was shot and killed by a man who is here illegally, would previously been deported, and was unknown gang meant -- number. ronald was just 29 years old. he was the firstborn, and only son of angus -- agnes give me,

joins me now. agnes thank you very much for being here, and i know what your loss is still very potent for you. you never get over the loss of a child, and now you see these other families, were going to the same kind of pain that you went through. what is your message win you hear this story about jocelyn? >> heartbreaking. completely unnecessary, and avoidable, it is so sad that the democrats won't fund a portable to keep illegal aliens out. but they expect us taxpayers to fund century states to keep them in. we have got to stop this. we have got to hold these elected officials accountable. my heart goes out to this family to all the victims. there are dozens of victims out there, and it is a life sentence of grief and pain that never goes away. you know martha, last month was

mother's day. i go to the cemetery to celebrate mother's day, and my sun's grave because he will never call me to say happy mother's day. you know how heartbreaking that is? it is completely heartbreaking. and to see my beautiful son, with a beautiful smile. when i see his pictures of win he was a baby, and i look at him and i think, somebody snuffed his life out. look at that beautiful face of his. i should have my son with me and my heart goes out to these families, would never recover from this. >> know another never. anderson was a very handsome young man, and a beautiful little boy. this is al landro at the border today. the ghs secretary, and here's what he said when he was asked what he would say to the families of those who have lost loved ones as you did.

watch. >> the message to the families is, of course,, our hearts are with them. given their suffering. we screen and vent individuals when we encounter them. if we learn of derogatory information subsequently later in the process, then we take enforcement action accordingly. >> martha: what would you say to him agnes? >> i want to just shake that man and i want to smack his face. i am not a violent person, but the fact is, his will -- woelfel and systemic refusal to secure the border and his denial that there is a problem at the border. this guy auto be arrested, and put in prison for treason, for portraying us taxpayers and citizens of this country. tell the 12-year-old, the 13-year-old and every other victim out there, this guy is a disgrace to this administration it. we have a complete failure in

this administration. president trump gave us a voice. he was the only one that listened to our pain, to our suffering. this administration, the democrats don't care. my thigh, last month i went to sacramento, i'm in by device and some women bill sadie. who is introducing bill ab 2641. in the bill says to and century state protection for illegal aliens, pedophiles. >> martha: agnes thank you. and even very politically active on this issue, me think of her being with us, and again, are some of these for your loss. you for being here. >> thank you. >> martha: a freaking update from the court room, as we await a possible verdict in the case of karen reed. if you haven't followed this, this verdict is going to be quite interesting, she is the massachusetts woman charged with killing her boyfriend a boston

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[ ♪♪ ] >> pretty right now. jury deliberations in the trial of karen read, the massachusetts woman who is charged with killing her boyfriend, a boston police officer, by hitting him with her suv. he was in the snow, that's where her body was found. her lawyers claimed claim that he was beaten during a party at another officer's house. and cops are framing her to cover up what happened inside the house. she is facing life in prison. they are in the middle of deliberations, with what multiline life at the courthouse in massachusetts. hi molly.

>> hi my thigh, you said the prosecutor say that she killed her boyfriend in a drunken rage, what defence attorneys have a very different three that she has been framed, that's really wide-ranging conspiracy. the jury just wrapped for the day, what has closed, that courtroom shutting down for the day and we watched karen red in her defence team put away this afternoon, everyone involved will course be back tomorrow. this is a murder trial. reed is facing charges of secondary murder. manslaughter we'll driving under the influence and leaving the scene of the collision causing injury and death. predicate is in the karen read hit her boyfriend 46-year-old boston police officer john o'keefe with her suv after a night out drinking. leaving him to die in a blizzard on january 29th 2022. in closing arguments, and throughout the trial, they could use reed's against her, including rage filled voicemails left for him after she allegedly ran him down, and her own panic statements first responders who claimed she said i hit him. prosecutors also addressed the

offensive texts that were sent might lead investigator trooper michael proctor, referred to read as a whack job, and far far worse. >> as distasteful as those messages are, and their content is, i cement they have no bearing whatsoever, or impact whatsoever on the integrity of the entirety of the investigation. they come to 44-year-old ed massachusetts woman is innocent casting her as a scapegoat arguing that o'keefe was most likely beaten to beaten to death, and bitten by the family dog at a late-night party in the home of another boston police officer, where reed claims she had simple he just dropped him off. has but it was found on the lawn, but investigators never went inside the house. that offence the real killers lied to cover their actions, and worked with friendly investigators who did shoddy work, alt opinion on the girl. city window making a chain of custody. all the evidence in the hands of one person, and then manipulate

that evidence including videos. >> reporter: you're in recent facilities part of the dutch the date getting the verdict that there was a certain section it and have an actual not guilty flank with it so the battle with her over that today for martha. >> all right watching this closing will see what happens get think you so much for your reporting. so want to put her, and advocate paris hilton on her passionate crusade to protect children in foster care, and other facilities like the ones she was in from abuse. with the help of republik and congressman buddy carter of georgia. >> if you are a child in the system, hear my words. icu, i believe you, i know what you are going through, and it will not give up on you. you are important, your future is important, and you deserve every opportunity to be safe,ev and supported.erocke

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>> ♪ ♪ >> families need resources and support so they didn't -- don't need to come in to the caliphate system in the first place. for children who children who do and up in foster care we cannot allow them to grow in facilities capital equipment decent heads have had to endure as criminal. of these kids deserve to grow up and save family centered environment. i will not stop until america's youth is safe. >> martha: powerful testimony day from paris hilton on capitol hill advocating for more accountability for youth treatment facilities like the one she spent time in as a teen in utah where she said she was abused by the staff. , hattan has teamed up with georgia congressman buddy carter to push a bill impact perfect -- protecting vulnerable teams in those programs called stop institutional child abuse act and they both join me now. great to have both of you with us. i watch some of the testimony you gave earlier and it's great to hear that you're advocating for these chil

children. quickly, buddy, just tell people what is the belyeu are trying to reinstate here if you can, briefly. >> very briefly what we want is to have oversight and to have -- to have transparency, i think that's very important particularly to when there is a nexus between the federal government funding these centers and between the centers, that's extremely important. we have a responsibility incumbent upon us to make sure that we have oversight over these facilities that make sure parents are educated as exactly the history and what's been going on in these facilities. >> martha: paris for those that enunciate earlier, explain what happened to you. you were 16 years old and you were sent away from your ho home, discipline issues i guess at that age at that young age, what happened? >> well i was sneaking out at night getting bad grades, i had adhd which wasn't being talked about back then. and my parents sent me with what they thought was going to be an emotional growth boarding school but these places were extremely abusive

and they cut me off from the outside world so i was even able to tell my family what was happening and it was the most traumatizing experience of my life and not to know the password for years that this has boomed in to a 23 billion-dollar industry and hundreds of thousands of children are being sent to these places every year and that's what i want to use my voice to make a difference and stop this from happening to other children. >> martha: you know, i think a lot of people see you and wonder how this could have ever happened in your family. what did your parents say when they really began to understand what had happened to you as the place that they sent you to? >> my parents were just so heartbroken and just horrified by what i had to end there and they are serious at these schools were lying to them and many plating them and this happens to so many families. >> martha: so tell me what the red flags are? if a parent is at the end of their rope and if you like they can't help their child get out of the cliff that

they're in, what should they look for? because not everyone can afford likely the upper end of this? what would you tell them? >> i think it's important to try to keep your children at home with you. there are so many other options and just having therapy and really just getting involved in community programs is so important but sending them away is not what you're supposed to do. >> martha: so, buddy, what made you so interest -- interested in this issue? >> well when you see courageous survivors like parents who are willing to come and speak out, it's inspirational. again as i've said earlier, this is incumbent upon us and congress, our responsibility to address issues like this. i don't doubt that there are some good institutions that are doing very -- great work out there but there are also some bad actors are there are -- as they are in a report that -- progression. lester one we're after here that we need transparency on

oversight. >> martha: so many foster children get passed from one place to the next, paris, and i know it's not just the schools that you -- but, you know, government oversight of the inspector general from each it just says we just -- basically don't have the people how we do have the ability to oversee all of this places were recently federal money. what would you say to them? >> say that there are having taxpayers pay billions of dollars to these places so they are definitely is finds. didn't need to be appropriated in the correct form. >> martha: you know, i love what you said about if at all possible keep your child at home, you know, and obviously there are parents who are having a very hard time. what would you say to give them strength about your -- you became very successful, so these kids do have the potential for a bright fut future. >> i've been one of the very rare occasions. most people go to the schools end up in prison, and the committing suicide, end up homeless. it's very heartbreaking to

see what happens but i managed to turn my pain in to a purpose but a lot of these children especially from the foster care system, they don't have that love and support when they get out. and it just really heartbreaking to see what happens to them because of these places. >> martha: we did a story not too long ago that a child who had been bounced around 221 different foster homes and eventually found a forever family and he said at it everything that would be in my life, that i would be able to find a family and it was just so heartbreaking so it takes a lot of strength to get through the situations. buddy carter, paris hilton, thank you very much for being with us today. at the happy with this. >> thank you. >> martha: that is "the story" for this wednesday june 26. will see you back here tomorrow at 3:00. youth tomorrow night for the debate, tune in for ou coverage starting in the evening. >> ♪ ♪ >> sandra: thank you, marc staal. fox news alert a new alert