chelsea from lancaster pennsylvania, "has biden asked gutfeld to tell him anything is?" you mean has biden ask truck got filled's and writers to sit -- send him and he lingers? we've got more pregame coverage up next. i believe i'll be a part of that, it is at 8:00. not even sure they're calling it jesse watters crime time but i think i invited brett bear and maybe -- hannity will probably show up. we'll take over my show. don't even know if i'm allowed to do this at 8:00 mark maybe i'll get brett bear. if brant burke and sign off like this right before the debate, then that a win. lopeti -- >> sean: impairment we've got more coverage. >> ♪ ♪ >> sean: and we've got more coverage next. >> ♪ ♪ [chanting]

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>> ♪ ♪ >> it does not get much bigger than this. president biden and former president trump about to take the stage in atlanta in the presidential debate like we've never seen before. good evening, i'm brett bear. >> i martha maccallum a thank you for joining us tonight for the presidential debate which we will air live from beginning to end right here on fox and joining us tonight we have a fantastic team here in new york, harold ford junior dana perino, jesse watters, kellyanne conway and britt hume. >> sean hannity is in the spin room in atlanta where one hour from now, joe biden and donald trump will come face-to-face for the first -- first time in four years. is the earliest for the national debate in history and pulling shows the vast majority of voters will be watching tonight. >> topping americans concerns the economy of the border, foreign-policy, mental acuity

is also a question in a race between the two oldest candidates in history. >> candidates may be older but the campaigns are predicting confidence. both vowing to draw us our contract contract on the stage tonight. >> president trump has a great opportunity to highlight his strengths with joe biden's weakness and his success with joe biden's failures. >> tonight is an opportunity for president biden committee directly to those voters that are going to be deciding the selection. >> here's another particular as we know president biden chose to be on the right side of the stage. the former president, trenton on the left of the former president opted to have the last word during the closing statement and president biden will go first during that period. >> and then there are the rules. the moderators will mute the candidates microphones when it's not there term to speak, no live on dylan's, the candidates can have a pen, paper and with -- water on stage, no prewritten notes. >> it is really a debate like none we've seen and we will be watching it right here

just a very short time from now. so get ready, folks. >> let's bring in our final, you know, we talked about this for days, been a we've digested all the possibilities but as you think about it, what do you think as this gets ready to go? >> i'm very excited, i wanted to be with you tonight and so glad that our viewers have a chance to hear from us before and after including our good friend jesse here. >> the nr is all mine. [laughter] >> seventy-three% of american said that they likely watched tonight's debate and that means that yes as both of the spokes people from the campaign today said finally know you have a chance to talk directly to the american people. a lot of our viewers day-to-day they're paying very close attention, they know a lot of the details. but most americans don't necessarily know all the ins and outs and so they want to hear a couple of things. one how you defend your record of the last four years, mr biden, but all so really what would you due in the next four years? and it matters much less as much as i like us what the press reaction is going to be

to this or the pundits reaction going to be because the americans are going to be able to see with their own eyes just as they have in the last few years with the price that they're paying and the things that they're seeing on immigration. >> let's bring in sean hannity in the spin room tonight. give us a sense of what it is like there and what you looking for this evening. >> bret: well first the spin room is a lot of fun room see all my friends in the media. happened to be really big fans of mine so it's an interesting walking in the room. number 1 is great to be with all of you. thank you for letting me be a part of this. thing what dana said is right on. one americans -- if you look historically what drives elections at peace and prosperity. we go back to the famous question of ronald reagan, are you better off than you were four years ago? okay are our borders more secure? i don't think so. i think that will be a very big issue a theme that donald trump is

likely to go back to again and again throughout the evening regardless of what question he's asked. on the economy, biden inflation 25% of americans, they said that they are forgoing meals two thirds of americans say economically they are gasping for air, their words. then you go to the issue of law and order and safety and security. well how has nobel, dismantle, we imagine the policeman going? what is america's rule on the world stage anymore? war in europe, war in the middle east. i would argue that bedded -- president biden had a lot of expanding to do in many ways, i argue that he surrendered in the war on terrorism. if those topics are topics that come up i think they will strongly favor president trump. but those that are wondering if president trump is going to allow the moderators of joe biden to upset him i would say i don't think there's a chance. i think he is very mild in, the time i spent with him interviewing him at

mar-a-lago, he was as focused and i've ever seen him. and have known him for many years prior to him being human injured -- getting into politics. but joe biden will want to talk about democracy and parallel january 6, who one the 2020 election, will they were -- will you accept the results of 2024. i hope they spend more time on the future than on the past but that's to be seen tonight. >> bret: it will be exciting there in the spin room. you heard what sean said, what is joe biden to do on that stage? >> it's good to be her too. i think everybody is screaming about right. this is the first time america will see these guys side-by-side. we get the chance to start -- wash them because we're so steep and invested in this daily, we see them apart from one another really on one another and seeing things that are true and untrue about one another here don't have a chance to stand by side-by-side and be serious. i hope that president biden is serious about talking about his progress that he's made on an economy, we create a lot of jobs, 3 trillion-dollar companies

-- market comp -- no economy has ever had that, a hundred thousand manufacturing jobs but he's also got to be honest about the challenges the family still place. high price of gas and food, does he talks at mega about art on his show and he ought to give us a vision about what the next four years will look like if he's reelected. the border is probably the toughest question for the president. president biden, that is. have to expand what took so long to act with executive orders and he'll probably counter with president trump saying why we give republicans the leeway and permission to a bill? will see what the country stands on that. and finally i do think these issues around january 6 and some of the fitness issues depending on how he frames them, president biden, it could be effective. by the economy and the border are issues that president will have to answer upfront and with some stiffness and with sublimity -- at the beginning of the debate. >> martha: it's interesting i was flipping around watching some of the coverage earlier before i came down here and i was very interested to hear on other

channels that they were saying, you know, this is a real test for biden tonight. that they want him to stick it to donald trump county want to make sure that america sees what he did that, you know, the insurrection got all these things, this was a very fired our conversation and i thought to myself, you know, in this one of the reasons we are -- june 27th are they still some of them pundits may be not rest of america, you know, testing him tonight to see if they might want to go another route? >> martha: >> britt: this is interesting because i don't think i've ever seen a presidential campaign in which inch -- is credited with the others best hope. [laughter] we talked about this before, that. [crowd groans] very much wants us to -- that takes us backward to the things about his record and that they think people don't like. trump on the other hand very much wants diligent to be about biden and his record and, of course, we have the overarching question that i think, you know, we'll be the first question people kind of want answers and that is how is biden doing? how well has this weeklong i

think in president the time alone or at least away from the oval office preparing, how much effect has had that, how much good had it done and what will he see like. will he seem like the man that looks lots of times,'s memory fails, freezing from time to time or will he be sharp on -- and on it like you to be years ago? >> bret: seven days at camp david is really quite something. you will be some quick mcmill in land there that come out from other packets packets but how it's delivered and those moments that are intangible right now 50 minutes away that's what we are looking for. >> kellyanne: getting the training people to a real gamble by taking joe biden off the stage and leaving the -- hillary clinton that in 2016 and the big media narrative at the time was what hillary -- she's taking the next five days off, content is out there, you know, we were doing, we were 78 steps a day with the people and that's the way donald trump prepares for these debates, the best way

he prepares and by going in to the south bronx, new jersey and you name it, on podcast, on television shows, talking about his record. donald trump needs to bring people backward to how they felt i wouldn't say four years ago about five years ago when we had record growth and low inflation and lower interest rates and the like. he needs to bring people back to that and protect them forward. i want to say this. i think everyone has over thought this debate except donald trump. thing that biden people show that their candidate needs more rest and your -- more rehearsal. i think their flotilla pundits, the flurry of coverage because the one person that seems calm, pool collected is content and the way he prepares is by talking about the binary choice and i just want to say this is somebody who knows him that i was the last person he talked to before he went out to the very first general election debate against hillary at covington university in september 2016, i've been in that spin room karaban feet away from him, i'm in all the professions and 2016 and 20 2020. this is a man who feels that

if you go to the podium and you project confidence, competence and strength and the word strength is incredibly important tonight, people want a strong economy, strong border, strong ame america, they want a strong military. they want to feel that the opposite of strength and weakness but the opposite of strength is also failure. and i think for president trump he's going to show tonight or it is he's expanding his entire party and unifying it while biden is contracting. >> martha: jesse your thoughts? >> jesse: i strongly disagree with kellyanne conway. there's one person without overthinking -- >> kellyanne: youth is mike. [laughter] >> jesse: one person not overthinking this debate and that's me. >> bret: you have them read by the way. >> jesse: i said before he liked the least qualified person right here and then delegate me well we need to hear from a layperson. [laughter] so as a layperson is simple. joe biden needs to talk to his base. joe biden's base is a mess. so if you can go out there

and show his base that he is alive and really ripped up donald trump that's going to galvanize the party, it will galvanize the money guys and there's not going to be nomination anxiety because there's a lot of nomination anxiety out right now. donald trump needs to go and talk to the hole country. he can talk too because there's a lot of content areas democrats. so if he is calm and collected and calm is the key word, don't get triggered by your genocidal wannabe dictator twice convicted felon who was going to lock up your rivals. no. take that beat at all. say joe, you're condescending, not going to lock up anybody especially you, go retire, have some ice cream. i'm going to be too busy fixing the mess that you created and just tell everybody what your four years was like, what joe's four years would like and make it about the american people, "make it about trump. >> bret: there you go. the layperson --

>> jesse: a layperson will surprise you. [laughter] >> kellyanne: exactly. >> britt: we do have microphones and applying systems. >> jesse: i'm sorry. i'm always screaming. he yelled at me in your arms are too four screaming. >> bret: we are just beginning. is almost time in atlanta and collect candidates on-site were told, where -- will take you there inside the apartment -- final preparations as our pregame coverage, loud, soft, whatever, continues after this. [laughter] >> ♪ ♪ but instead remade over and over... into the things that keep our food fresher, our families safer, and our planet cleaner. to help us get there, america's plastic makers are investing billions of dollars to create innovative products and new recycling technologies for sustainable change. because when you push for smarter solutions, big things can happen.

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>> ♪ ♪ >> ♪ ♪ >> bret: first presidential debate in just minutes away, president byron is coming off a week of intense perspiration at camp david and his advisers were hunkered down behind closed doors rehearsing for what could be the most important 90 minutes of biden's political career. peter doocy has more from the white house. peter? >> i have -- ahead of the debate the biden campaign is blasting e-mails to their list and text to all the numbers they have and we are told that the 6-7:00 pm hour tonight on the campaign's best fundraising hour, grassroots fundraising hour of the entire cycle that bested -- which bested the hour before the 56:00 which

was there prior record number. they want to talk about the spin room afterwards, they have given you something to think -- they also have married trump the trump niece who they think will talk about her morality and something that his morality rather and something that happened aboard air force one's -- air force one on the way today, karine jean-pierre was asked about the response to trump's claims the president biden may be taking something tonight to boost his performance. she said she doesn't want to dignify it with a response. i ask a biden eric -- aid why they just can't say no, and this is what i was told i can confirm the president is downing his performance enhancer or twice jenny's ice cream, he will be hopped up on spaghetti and the red sox." jesse? >> jesse: thank you and i just want to tell everybody i've been drug tested and unclean. thank you. >> prove it. >> bret: on that note former president from is getting ready to debate president by then for the first time in four years. i had knee from -- had

leaders from the spin room it atlanta. >> let me first give you some color from the spin room. peter just mentioned avenue some copyright over my left shoulder -- right shoulder on the floor right no and he's actually been here on the floor for more than an our sort of working the room we've also seen auntie of trump surrogates, people on the bb shortlist as well, vivek ramaswamy was on the floor earlier, had a swarm of reporters around him, j.d. vance is supposed to be here as is doug burgum. as far as former president trump goes the trump team tells us that he is feeling very confident and very, very -- very well prepared for the next tomato he'll focus on fixing the economy, he'll talk about restoring peace around the world and he's going to secure the southern border and you might even talk about the recent victims of illegal migrants those alleged crimes that have been committed. know if he gets a question about january 6 that transcends the -- team said that he is ready to answer that question and then he'll try to talk about the next four years. there's been some reports of their of democrats sort of

urging president biden to try to trigger him, i'm not so sure that there is going to happen. a lot of analysts have been feeling trump out in recent weeks that he's been a lot more serious, the unifier in chief, recently started from him when he was on that comeback tour in washington. and he loves feeling like he was the leader of the republican party really unifying them. to -- so we might see more that night. will find out. >> thank you. have you ever been confused for jesse? just want to know. >> jesse: maybe some other people that look like me. >> us go back down to the spin room. sean hannity is there. we were talking a lot before in the days leading up to this about the tone and tenor that the former president will take and what he's bringing to the table. you know him but -- better than most. what do you think he is coming with in 39 minutes? spee ten well i can tell you i know a lot of people that have been around him have been very, very clear that he

really has to be measured. if i were to talk about what i think we're going to expect tonight, tone, pitch, kieran mckenzie, humour, intelligence in a real focus on the future from him. look he knows that job will try to beat him, call him an assertion is, he'll say democracy is in peril, january 6, convicted felon. all of that, you know, they've all anticipated that, all the people around him that i've spoken to. but i think all of that will lead to donald trump, you know, having a few lines of his own and there are a lot of vulnerabilities that we expect. one thing, he brought up the question, how art is it that you have a president of the united states, leaves his day job for over a full week to prepare for what is really a 90 minute debate about the very issues that you should be dialed into every day? that seems beyond excessive. now, i brought up the

issue right after the state of the union, i felt that joe he wouldn't even allow the speaker of the house time to introduce him as is custom. and he just went out there and he was screaming and hyped up and hypercapnia -- caffeinated i call him or jacked up joe. the question i think a lot of people have is, you know, which joe biden will show up tonight because we haven't -- we've never seen that joe biden before the state of the union and we really haven't seen him since that way since the state of the union. now if he shows up and he's that aggressive and if he shows up and he's got more cognitively aware i think that might also bring a lot of questions about his mental cognitive condition and i think it's a real issue in the campaign on top of the issues that i mentioned earlier. immigration, the economy, inflation, law and order, you know, what's happening on the world. there's only things that are very impactful. these are consequential times, this is a

consequential election. i would argue it's an inflection point and if it's not either of those two, i'm thinking jesse watters will have to step in. [laughter] >> jesse: if asked i will serve -- send me a check cash on. [laughter] >> martha: you know, they now, in terms of how you prepare for this and talking to a resident or a passed president in this case about how to deflect those kinds of things, you know, how much do you think -- because he does like to defend himself on all of those issues, january 6 and the rest so what would you advise? >> dana: one of the things that's been driving me crazy lately i call it rather that's not debating which is when you have someone under biden campaign they will just throw statistics at you well 15% of this and 80% of that and 60%. meanwhile people keep saying well but i was paying $80 for a sandwich and arm paying $14 for a sandwich and that's what they're really thinking about. the momentum for this race, it's undeniably in front

and's for of your. you look at the gallup poll today president trump had his highest favourability numbers ever today remarked biden had his lowest verbal ability numbers ever and that was just today. the other thing is if you look at the youth will starting to walk away from biden color not so sure and black americans especially, black men. donald trump doesn't have to win all the black vote, he just needs to win a significant number more and he will be able to win. one other thing i want to point out is watch where the candidates go after tonight. they're both going to spend that the won okay but biden is going to north carolina khalistani a lot of time there. why? i was very curious about this. well one of the people i talked to today and kelly and will probably be able to either confirm or correct me is that the. [crowd groans] is basically felt that arizona and georgia are gone so they're trying to figure out is there a trump state that they can flip. so they might see some sort of glimmer of hope in the data in north carolina but friends like talk there today seeing their spring and when it's not going to happen. >> martha: and trump is

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>> ♪ ♪ >> martha: here we go now it is almost go time in atlanta president biden and former president trump are about to hit the stage and it is the first debate in more than 30 years that is not organized by the commission on residential debates. chad pergram has the story and all he came together. >> dana good evening. was president biden and former president trump took their feud outside as an outside the commission on presidential debates. mr trump offered at their president biden. >> mr. trump: i'm calling on crooked joe debate anytime anyplace. >> president biden called his rivals bluff. >> president joe biden: made my day, powell. will even do it twice. >> mr. trump: -- after a 33 debate spanning 36 years.

>> what they wanted to do which would -- >> republican national committee severed ties with the cpd two years ago. >> if you want free and fare debates this commission has shown bias. >> the biden campaign also rejected the commission and push for early june debate. campaign demanded certain rules including cutting off the candidates microphone. since 1960 debates were ever -- and television. >> republican candidate, vice president and the democratic candidates senator john f. kennedy. >> -- and in to an economic campaign whistle stop. >> no soviet domination of eastern europe. >> i'm not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. [laughter] >> the party is over and it's time to clean up. >> the question is -- >> the question is -- will you shut up, man?

>> did it -- a positional sweepstakes and tv. >> what politics did is provide a baseline reality show, real-life, important reality show that television can embrace. >> the debates offered to candidates and immediate they both grave. a big audience. dana? >> dana: chad pergram, thank you. >> martha: that's bring karl rove back in to the party here as we know the moment and told about this megabit starts. what's on your mind? >> it will be interesting to see how they play out on the issues in the back-and-forth but if you step back for a minute, remember that what people are looking for here particularly those that are up for grabs in the selection is a sense of these people in these two men as individuals, they're looking for a sense of do they see this person as someone who can sit behind that desk and that any sheep office in the southeast corner of the west wing and

be president? is it somebody that they think has a sense of what it is actually want to do in their second term that makes sense to the voters themselves? do they care about people like the motor and do they think that this person is somebody that you want to have in their life for the next four years as chief executive of our country? so the issues are important, don't get me wrong. the cost of living, information, abortion got all of these will be important tonight. but the important people take away from seeing these two men for the next 90 minutes are going to be absolutely critical to the decision. >> bret: first of all, in this he live chat without a whiteboard? [laughter] >> i got a whiteboard standing by. [laughter] >> bret: let me ask you this you been behind these, you know, prepositions, going into this and you look at polls, and it -- any into this moment, where things are, are you thinking i went up a certain message to independence got out of a certain message to suburban mams, are you thinking that detailed in that prep work.

>> know what you're thinking that you do want to have a message. don't have a clarity about what the global message is. yet -- you have -- that are up for grabs but you got to have a message. you have to make this thing a global issue reminders, -- it's got to be big. and so, you know, little mini issue here a little mini issue there to get our small group doesn't help you. this is the biggest most important job on the face of the planet and people are going to want to hear what it is that you want to do and to have a sense of how you're going to get it done. and what's important about this debate which makes it really unusual is it's going to be the first debate where there have been workable debates that is still early and so distant from the next debate. that is to see what happens tonight is not going to be easily erased in ten days or two weeks of them had in the past. think about this whiteboard time, 11 weeks. >> bret: i knew we had it. >> it is 11 weeks between this debate and an exponential debate. so somebody has a great night tonight, they can't raze it into, you know, somebody has

a really bad night, the person has a bad night can't erase it in ten days or two weeks when the next debate comes around. and this is going to be the biggest inflection point for 11 weeks. we've got the sentencing of president trump on the 11th of july. we've got the republican convention starting a few days later. and we'll have the democratic convention beginning in august. but this is the moment where the two of them will be together and so the impressions that are set tonight i think we'll linger anger than they would normally linger because these two men are going to be in a state again for 11 weeks -- 11 weeks between do you have all these fancy graphics and still the whiteboard makes more sense. >> martha: reminds us of college. [laughter] i want to talk a little about an area that is very sensitive for this president and there is the southern border. and for a long time, it was ignored basically, that it would go away. it didn't happen then he started making major concessions and executive orders that he is hoping

well, you know, get his numbers a little bit more in his favor. that could be a potential moment tonight. >> there's two things about that. one i think that's what had happened on the border so many aliens have come in that should not have come under the law. that's not going to be erased by the steps he's taking now. with the subsea sticking now may hurt him in yet another way. they prove that all that stuff he said about i need extra power from congress i've done all i could do and so forth and then he takes all the steps lo and behold another thing that really there really working well, the question that screams -- well what took you so long? i think this is not an issue that you can -- mr biden can swing in his favor. is a vulnerability the amateur president -- the former president trump will poke him with tonight repeatedly. >> martha: dinner believe he was -- look in the camera and said, you know, i just want someone to ask president biden why are you allowing this to happen? b2 and kellyanne is that the

question? >> kellyanne: -- i think at this point biden does on these tragic rapes and murders were hearing about in the news. in these debates you want to reflect today's events and use what you don't want to get so caught up in it that you forget to reflect on your record in this case the four years when president trump was there and i will say two things. these debates are important. 's remember who the audience is. is not those two moderators, is not even your opponent. is not the people in the spin room. it's the people of this country. the people are always the audience and i think if you can remember that, you don't get in this tit for tat with your opponent, you don't get embroiled in this portal -- personal argument. other thing as -- to tell people something they don't know that they haven't seen. i think it's a trap for biden. he still programs almost robotically talk about general research and democracy in abortion and women and i don't know if he's going to be able to get around that. what is a great opportunity to tell people thing they didn't know, not to be irritable but to be a resource to the people.

and on the border i think biden is incomplete defense. i don't understand that even logically why they allowed us to go on for so long. it took them three years, i saw you press people -- took them seriously say there was a crisis. it took the country three minute to say there was a crisis. three force of the country thinks there's a crisis and at the white house couldn't say it so we'll see what he comes out with. this is not in place for new policies, this is the place to project confidence in your competence, but tell us something that we didn't know because then we'll associate it back with you. >> bret: president biden will go back to this negotiation in the senate, the bipartisan legislation that never came to be. and then he'll say what he's doing now. the question is whether former president is going to dissect that and say what? why didn't you do it among the democrats -- >> the president has been late but you think about some of the people were talking about, that the president, former president trump is considering provides president, governor burgum said bad things about him,

he's come around a accept the fact that he scamurra a j.d. vance -- so president biden messed up on the border. you finally come around right and on the point number democrats -- the democrats -- you have to let democrats and republicans hash out agreements and they did and president trump, i hope he's asked question tonight, did you ask republicans do not vote for that bill and if you do that, why? do not think it would make a difference on the border? this is not at all to the fate -- negate the fact that democrats and president biden particular has a weekend here but he will have to answer the question as well. one last thing, the age thing is something that call raise, we're president biden -- trump talk about president by the age of the time. and you will see them stand side-by-side. of these guys are old. and we are going to have an opportunity to see -- i think and you will have an opportunity to assess what that means and foreign policy, september, you had netanyahu and you had an bs, think about how close they were to an agreement there.

he would've been part of the nobel peace prize process is that what happened. here we are to the inability of rents part, two of them have a chance to answer that question as well. i will be listening, i have a favorite in this campaign but i want to see what president trump says he would due in the middle east it president biden is not doing. >> bret: jesse you look like you want to wait and. >> jesse: carlo really made me think one has ever really done before but he made a great point they have to talk about your vision. and have you heard what biden's vision is for the next four years? i haven't heard any specifics. haven't heard how he's going to bring down inflation, i haven't heard any real border policy changes. is actually not cracking down on the border, he's a travel agent, harold kearl he's flying people here. so that issue is off the table, there is a deadlock issue. content to your point kelly and, not to use cable news cliché, to your point if you want to unveil something beautiful if i were chanting out, about that temp tax cut, no one knows about that and he would go down there and said we're not going to attack steps i mean for

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weeks 13-year-old girl raped in broad daylight in a parking and queens new york. the brutal murder of a 12-year-old billy gerlott after being tortured and brutalized for two hours in houston, texas and murdered in that case. rachel marin, a mother of five, we know her story, we know laken riley's story. and so many others. and then you think about over about 11 million illegal immigrants coming in under joe biden's policies, he's been telling the country for, you know, the better part of his presidency that the border is close and the border is secure. and now at the last minute he saying while i fix the border and yet all of these issues have come up. if you look in the early primary states, immigration kept showing up as the number 1. how big an issue will it be tonight? >> is become a national issue. you hear the saying that every state is not a border state and that smiling some real truth to that, sean, and, of course, on what this meant the question of what kind of people are coming in

to the country under biden and even before, trump' simile nastily -- nasty claim that they're not sending us our best, they're sending us rapist and murderer is an underestimate how it doesn't look quite the same today as it doesn't seem as mean today as it might have been back then when he was so scorned for saying it. so it's one more reason, sean, i think this is not an issue i think biden can recover on no matter what happens between no and election day or what's happening even recently at the border. the border is a loser for him and will be a loser. >> sean: yeah, i tend to agree. and teemak when you add the fact that we now know of okay people with isis tires coming in to the country, syria ir iran, yemen, venezuela, egypt, tens of thousands from china and russia, i've got to believe every american sees this for what it is and that is a real clear president -- present danger to the country.

your thoughts? >> jesse: may i call you king of the spin room? >> sean: what's that? >> jesse: nevermind, sean. at a skull that anywhere, king. i will use that as a tree trunk the the border because all of these branches come up -- you have the border chaos but coming from if you have fentanyl overdoses. you have rent increases. you have school chaos. you have migraine crime which affects women. all and now you have an isis national security threat. and you have wages that are being driven down which impacts inflation. all of these thanks spring from this border. so if any time trump gets in trouble tonight, i would just give it back the way sometimes i've pivot back to my best-selling book, and just go right back to the issue of immigration. it's a great space for him to operate and that should be as actor -- his anger. >> sean: yeah. were getting very close know. we are just a mere nine minutes away from the start of this historic presidential debate in what is an

inflection point i would argue for the country and anyway, so we're just waiting for that to happen and the great news is i'll be watching with all of you, i'll be back at 10:30 with this great panel and brett and marco -- mike eppel take it from here and hannity, we've got a great show at 11:00 o'clock eastern and will be getting a lot of reaction or my guys, thank you for having me on. this is going to be a historic moment, that's for sure. interesting in every way. i wish there was more of a time though, bret and martha, you made this point earlier, i wish to actually talk to each other and not whether mike commuted. >> martha: i agree and i think one of the things will be watching with is how this all works because this is the first time is always a little tricky when you try things for the first time. also want to mention that -- tecum meant -- campaign manager for joe biden said he will address the age issue. head on, basically, and he will make his argument for how -- that he's up to the

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>> ♪ ♪ >> ♪ ♪ >> martha: the hour is upon us, president biden and former president from about to take the stage in atlanta, we'll get some final thoughts here will go down the role. harold? >> harold: no audience anything allows for a more sustained and serious debate about real issues. in the manner and that will be the people because we'll have an opportunity to see and i'm looking forward to that. >> dana: this is the first

time people will be able to hear a little bit more than one word answers from joe biden who shouts yes or no to the press corps when they walk by remember everything there's an elephant in the room and it is the vise president of the united states and you can bet that president trump will bring her up and then a lot of voters are going to be looking to find out what he's going to say about that. >> jesse: i retired from making bold retreat -- productions so i will be saying that nothing will change. i will be saying that that the pulling will stay the same, the race is locked in, people understand their economic situation. not much joe biden can say that we'll change how people feel about this country right now. >> martha: that sound like a prediction. >> jesse: it's not bold, though. [laughter] >> britt: i think there's a lot of question -- pressure on the moderator panel and on cnn. when they landed this debate are clearly happy to have it. they've been struggling with audience ratings for years now. but now they've ended up in a situation where it will be everywhere at everybody will have it.

i think the stakes are very high for cnn and if they finished third tonight among the cable channels that we have on so many other occasions it would be a major investment for them. especially if it was thought they were unfair so i think they cannot afford to do that because they're going try to be hard to be fair in their. >> bret: and kelly and -- kellyanne, we're going to watch the whole thing live, there will be a couple of commercial breaks but a lot of this will be digested by really, in clips on inst instagram, on youtube, on social media. >> kellyanne: dangerous for either candidate on how they literally spin what happens, what we didn't see on -- best pulling week so far for donald trump, there was one national poll on all of 2020 emerson february 2020 that had him leaving joe biden know he's beating him memo -- in the main stream media oppose all those outlets, brett and martha attema don't like kind and doing their post -- because i think that joe biden will make a mistake tonight if he goes and tries

to fight donald trump on personality. you got to beat him on policy to have any chance of closing the gap on everybody's pulling at least seven swing states and nationally that she was content with these tremendous advantages. that's plaz what nasal racing 66% chance of trump winning. they could all change but it's headwinds and if you try to battle content in his personality, you run into about saw. turning have to go after more policy i just don't know how he does it. >> bret: think about how much has transpired in the four years since the first residential debate. we were in that room that it was the heat of covid. and so much has changed in our country since then, on every single issue in this country and around the world. >> martha: one thing that hasn't changed is the same two people up there for years later, standing. >> bret: it is time now to look live over to atlanta it's go time in atlanta with