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honest that what we saw in the debate was rough. i think the governors want a direct and candid conversation with the president. >> the democratic party has a great bench and we both know there are some hyper capable people that -- whose names have been mentioned as potential for the future. >> not exactly a vote of confidence. president biden preparing to meet with democratic governors quelling the growing revolt within his own party. i'm shannon bream. bill and dana are off today. stuck with us. it's nice. i can't remember the last time we've done a show together. >> mike: i'm mike emanuel and this is "america's newsroom." not just governors raising doubts. more than two dozen house democrats are preparing to call for the president to step aside. a campaign spokesperson confirms he has already begun calling congressional leaders to reassure them in response to last week's disastrous debate and the white house is

struggling to turn the page. >> we get it. the president did not have a great night, as you all know. many of you reached out during the debate. the president had a cold, he had his record proves he can do the job. >> shannon: the president said i decided to travel around the world a couple of times shortly before the debates. i didn't listen to my staff and then i almost fell asleep on stage. lucas tomlinson is following it from the white house for us. good morning, lucas. >> president biden returned from europe 12 days before the debate and had a week at camp david to prepare. let's hear more from kentucky senator andy beshear on why a governors are headed to the white house today. >> they want a direct and candid conversation with the president. we want to make sure he is doing okay. we all know him. he has formed a personal

relationship with us and he says he is and we take him at his word but it is always good to see somebody in person. >> here at the white house karine jean-pierre held her first on-camera press briefing since the debate late last week and asked point blank did the president have dementia? she said no. the biden campaign is out with a new campaign video this morning to reassure voters. >> nearly 250 years ago america was founded in defiance of a king. under the belief that no one is above the law, not even the president. until now. >> one more time this from reuters, 25 democratic members of the house of representatives preparing to call for biden to step aside if he seems shaky in coming days. here is another house democrat former house speaker nancy pelosi asking this question. >> i think it's a legitimate question to say is this an episode or is this a condition?

and so when people ask that question it's legitimate. of both candidates. what we saw on the other side was the lying. >> the biden campaign and the white house are saying president biden was sick on the night of the first debate thursday night and some are asking this morning if the president was sick, why did he go to the waffle house after ward to shake all those hands? >> shannon: thanks, lucas. >> mike: let's bring in kevin walling, emily domenech. good morning to both of you. democratic governors are coming to the white house to see the president in person. governor andy beshear of the commonwealth of kentucky talked about it. let's play him. >> want to make sure he is doing okay. we all know him. he has formed a personal relationship with us and he says he is and we take him at his word but it is always good to see somebody in person. >> mike: how critical is this

meeting when the democratic governors don't want to put their names and reputations on the line without verification? >> incredibly important. the base of support, newsom and others who are spinning in the debate room in atlanta. these governors have been some of the best supporters on television, media for the president. so i think it's critical for them to see the president up close and personal and to continue their support of the president in the media. the gospel of the day in the catholic tradition is that of the doubting thomas. blessed are those who believe without seeing, these guys want to see first and then continue on in their support of the president. >> shannon: the "new york post" has this editorial piece this morning. there is no way to restore the illusion that biden is fit for the presidency but these governors out there giving less than full throated endorsements are going to come here. will they be deputized to go out with him i met with him, he is

doing great, let's move on. >> that's what the white house is trying to do here. when you have nancy pelosi questioning the president's capability it's fair to say we're deep in dem disarray tear tort and difficult to put it back in the box. >> mike: what about vice president harris saying she polls better in some regards. are some people close to her measuring the drapes? >> every indication that's not the case. they have their regular monday staff call with the vice president's team. they are full throttle in support of the president. i don't think there is any kind of measuring the drapes. she is a strong advocate for this president. i think she is the one that actually enthusiastically engages the base. she was on the college tours talking about reproductive health and out there doing the work of the president in terms of engaging young people and people of color. a strong teammate to the president. allocations are that she is fully on board with supporting

the reelect. >> shannon: you see this poll within striking distance within the margin of error head-to-head with president trump. emily, we know over the last couple years she has polled behind president biden when it comes to favorability, job approval. in these new numbers we're seeing she does better with people of color and younger voters. she had better energy and also their point person on the issue that has been the best for them, which is abortion. >> absolutely. this shouldn't be surprising. we saw four in ten democrats saying president biden should be replaced on the ticket after the debate. we see people looking for other options and calling harris makes sense having access to democrats fundraising capabilities and president biden's network and some republicans saying perhaps she should be the nominee if biden steps aside. we are seeing testing of the waters from democrats and start to see more of that particularly as members of congress come back next week and here in person and

getting asked what they think about the president. >> mike: president biden is underwater on the economy, 32%, immigration 28%, foreign policy, 36%. role of commander-in-chief 35%. kevin, so far we haven't heard from a lot of swing district members of the house and/or swing state senate candidates. how are they down ballot? >> they are holding their fire a little bit. they want to see more additional polling. we saw to shannon's point the cnn poll only a slight drop for the president. he increased his vote share in the most recent reuters poll. but to that commander-in-chief question, in terms of that polling, i think the president has a great opportunity next week hosting the nato summit here and see commander-in-chief in full control of his abilities leading the world stage from here in washington, d.c. and it is a great opportunity to hopefully flip the script on a lot of conversations happening.

>> shannon: to the issue about foreign policy growing editorials and polling before the debate and now since post debate on foreign policy. voters give the edge to president trump. most of these polls it is by double digits. how important will the nato meeting be next week? >> it is critical and has to be front and center. clearly in control and serving in that role as commander-in-chief. i also think president biden has trouble cause he is losing the progressive left on foreign policy. youth voters who have been consistent democrat voters are out there saying they're concerned about gaza and israel and not necessarily going to show up to the polls for him. this is a huge area there is a weakness for the president without the problems of the debate. >> mike: great start, thank you so much. >> shannon: hurricane beryl churning across the caribbean leaving death and destruction in its wake. three people killed in venezuela. check out these images. the monster storm now a

category 4 barreling straight towards jamaica where we find robert wray. good morning, robert. >> good morning to you. look behind me at the north atlantic in jamaica on the west side and it is gorgeous. you wouldn't think a category 4 storm is making its way toward this island of nearly 3 million residents but it is. we'll start to see the impacts of these ferocious winds, rain and storm surge as the day goes on. look at some of the damage video from the island neighbors to the east, including grenada, unfortunately many structures in decembermation. we have at least six people killed, including people down in the country of venezuela. it shows you the swath of this storm of beryl. the problem is right now beryl, although it is less in intensity, it is not weakening as predicted.

it may just brush this island or have a direct impact with winds at a category 3. that's above 125 miles-an-hour, 145 as a category 3, maybe even a category 4. we hope not. the jamaican prime minister is telling his residents to make sure that they get to high ground. let's take a listen. >> jamaica must take this hurricane seriously. if you live in a low-lying area, an area is highly prone to flooding and landslides or if you live on the banks of a river or gulley, i implore you to evacuate to a shelter or to safer ground. >> we have lost connection. >> shannon: we lost robert but he will be there around the clock as is the rest of our fox

weather team tracking this storm. you can, too. download the fox weather app for more coverage of hurricane beryl. thank you, robert. >> voters think democrats can't win with joe biden at the top of the ticket. does that worry you? >> >> mike: one of a growing number of democrats raising doubts about the president's re-election campaign. where does the party go from here? we'll ask him coming up. >> shannon: the migrant crisis expanding on the northern border. is that the result of the president's recent executive actions? >> mike: former president trump's new york sentencing delayed until september. did the supreme court force alvin bragg's hand? so, no more sweating all night... no kicking off the covers... or blasting the air conditioning. because only the tempur-pedic breeze is made with our one-of-a-kind cooling technology that pulls heat away from your body. so, the mattress feels up to 10° cooler

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>> shannon: the biden administration strikes a deal with the new president of pan that trying to slow down the flood of migrants arriving there on their way to the u.s. william la jeunesse has the details from our west coast bureau. hello, william. >> good morning, shannon. this is a major reversal for president biden and a recognition that his highly publicized root cause strategy didn't work. after 3 1/2 years of basically catch and release, the administration will now begin deporting u.s.-bound migrants before they even reach the border striking a deal with panama to deport migrants at the darian gap. the only land crossing between south and central america between columbia and panama. a major stepping stone for migrants from asia and africa who fly to south america and travel to the jungle. yesterday the administration said it reached a deal with panama's new president, jose, to

fly u.s. bound migrants out of panama to their home countries as a deterrent. why take the risk and pay smugglers if you aren't going to make it? >> what they are hoping is that by the end of the year and the next few months migrants will say you know what? it is not worth me doing this. >> the panamanians with not afford anything else. it is a good thing the u.s. would be doing deportation flights directly out of panama to all points of the globe. >> the other major development for the first time in six years the u.s. flew 116 chinese nationals back to china. that number is a drop in the bucket to the 31,000 chinese who entered illegally this year. many coming through the gap but officials hope it is a beginning. president biden's new-found affection for deportation, limiting asylum and enlisting countries in latin america is a

page out of president trump to strengthen other country's borders to make ours better as well especially when he couldn't get help from congress. >> shannon: thank you so much. >> mike: the crisis shifts to the northern border, not included in president biden's executive action that puts a cap on asylum requests. according to a leaked dhs memo obtained by the "new york post" a record 3600 migrants enter illegally from canada in june. more than the total recorded crossings in 2022. >> even if bragg were to claim that all the activity was involved with president trump's non-official acts, he still has to scrutinize and clear out anything in the case that made reference to or used president trump's conduct while president in his official capacity to make sure it didn't infect his trial. bragg has to obey the supreme

court's decision on monday. >> shannon: that is certainly true. now the judge overseeing president trump's new york criminal trial is agreeing to delay the former president's sentencing following the supreme court's historic ruling on monday on immunity. still up in the air, how that decision affects trump's conviction in the new york case. let's bring in tom dupree, former assistant attorney general. always good to see you. i want to read president trump's characterization about the ruling monday. he said total exoneration all caps. it is clear the supreme court's brilliantly written and historic decision ends all of crooked joe biden's witch hunts against me including the white house and d.o.j. inspired civil hoaxes in new york. let's talk about the impact. man, it was a broad, good decision for the trump legal team but doesn't mean these cases are over just yet. >> that's right. there are still a few steps that have to happen before the cases come to an end.

for the bragg case, the significance is embedded deep within the supreme court's immunity decision was an important point which is that prosecutors can't use evidence with a president's official act to support a prosecution even for something that's non-official. in other words, it's a rule that says this evidence can't be used in any way, shape or form. so what is going to happen over the next couple months is that the prosecutors, trump defense team and judge in new york are all going to have to look at what evidence came in in this trial and was there so much evidence of his official acts that it tainted an polluted and corrupted the entire proceeding. >> shannon: there are all kinds of conversations with white house advisors and texts and emails and all kinds of things as we sat through the six week trial there is a lot to unpack. who does that? does judge merchan ultimately make the decision what should be allowed in and out? if it doesn't go well for the

trump team and leaves the convictions intact they'll appeal merchan's decision that delays the new york trial and potentially sentencing, too. >> absolutely. look, yes, judge merchan will be the one who makes the first call whether this evidence requires a new trial or setting aside the conviction. he is not going to be the last word. i suspect that honestly whichever way he goes on this, i think you will see the losing side appeal that decision. and then even after the new york appellate courts have weighed in it wouldn't surprise me if the united states security gets called on to make these types of decisions. from the prosecutor's perspective the immunity decision has upset the apple cart. >> shannon: can you give us a look how it impacts the federal cases? the jack smith case in d.c. is sent back down and look through all those things.

the immunity case, also applies to the mar-a-lago case and may put dents in that one, too? >> i think it does. it puts major dents in the january 6th jack smith prosecution. as far as the mar-a-lago case goes, i think it will have an impact. not as direct an impact as the january 6th case. it will have an impact and jack smith has to go back and parse through the indictment and make sure he isn't basing any charges on the official acts of then president trump. the other significant aspect justice thomas had a significant concurrence in the immunity decision when he questioned the legitimacy of jack smith's appointment. there may be attentive judicial leaders including cannon in florida paying a lot of attention to what justice thomas had to say about that. >> shannon: it got a little attention but not much. justice thomas has stayed on

that point. always appreciate your time. have a great fourth. >> you, too. >> mike: hundreds of thousands of people on the move in southern gaza as israel and hamas fighters wage fierce battles. a wall of democratic support for president biden after his disastrous debate showing its first cracks. >> i agree it is not helpful for the biden campaign is seeing as this missing concerns from voters, from democratic elected officials, from donors. i think it is always important to engage with and recruit voters and not condescend to them. >> mike: some democrats voicing concerns with the white house as fallout from the president's dismal debate performance grips the party. we hear from democratic congressman next. n your skin. i got cosentyx. feels good to move. feel less joint pain swelling and tenderness back pain and clearer skin and help stop further joint damage with cosentyx. don't use if you're allergic to cosentyx.

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>> mike: fierce battles between

israel and hamas after israel orders mass evacuations for southern gaza. a quarter of a million people will have to flee. trey yengst is live from southern israel. >> israel expanded evacuation orders for palestinians living in parts of rafah. an israeli military spokesperson telling fox news the new orders are only temporary amid heavier israeli strikes in the area. the hospital is treating many of the wounded and sick palestinians from southern gaza but remains overwhelmed and at capacity. the u.n. calling the new orders an impossible choice for civilians. >> evacuation of such a massive scale will only heighten the suffering of civilians and drive humanitarian needs higher. people are left with the impossible choice of having to relocate. >> as israeli soldiers continue to operate against hamas inside gaza, israeli officials are facing new questions about what the day after the war looks like

after nearly nine months of battle, hamas is not destroyed. 120 hostages remain in hamas activity and much of the enclave has been destroyed. i was inside gaza with the israeli military this morning. among the first group of journalists to rafah. immense destruction with new fire fights. that story in the coming days. >> mike: thank you very much. trey. >> shannon: more democrats are turning on president biden publicly now in the wake of his poor debate performance. >> this is not about one night. this has been a problem for a year that our nominee has been lagging behind. >> now again, i think it's a legitimate question to say is this an episode or is this a condition? >> i actually don't see a path now for president biden to stay in this race in the long term. >> i believe there are stronger

options out there for democrats. >> shannon: democratic congressman from massachusetts joins us now. always good to see you, congressman. bill reports there are growing numbers of coalition of house democrats to come forward publicly and ask the president to step down from the ticket. where are you on this at this moment? >> well, i have no inside knowledge of those reports. but i think that public conjecture on table news is not the right way to have the conversations. talk to president biden directly and have candid and tough conversations about the best path forward to defeat donald trump in november. that is the unifying issue for not just democrats but a majority of americans. the takeaway from the debated the president delivered a strong performance would have been donald trump refuses to distance himself from project 2025, put aside the federal bureaucracies.

not just home land security but social security as well. voters need to understand social security checks may come with strings attached by president trump. >> austin, how alarming should be it be to the president's team and campaign that he was the first to call for him to go? >> well, i think it is bigger than one democratic lawmaker, 50 million americans saw the debate and have real concerns and regardless of what the president decides, it will need to be a team sport going forward. governing is a team sport. the president has a terrific cabinet around him and the campaign should be a team sport. upcoming stars like pete buttigieg, others talking about manufacturing and kamala harris putting on her prosecutors hat tearing apart donald trump that he lied an average of 90 seconds and lawlessness that repels law

and order. we have strong people not just at the top of the ticket but around the ticket who can be strong surrogates. >> shannon: let's talk through some of those names. polling head-to-head for the vice president versus president trump. she is down 45-47 within striking distance. gavin newsom is down five points, buttigieg down four points. there are names and a bench out there. how do you decide when it's time to call somebody in from the bench and say okay, this is it for you? you talk about a team sport. could the party get quickly organized behind someone else as they would need to do? >> ultimately whether it's the president or another democrat, the best person to defeat donald trump is donald trump himself. he is historically unpopular with a majority of americans. foundationally it is because his character is morally bankrupt and americans want a leader of

this country to be someone they can respect and trust to put country before self and donald trump has demonstrated over and over again he refuses to do that and his second term would be far more dangerous than his first term and just look at what project 2025 offers. he will refuse to listen to congress when it comes to spending decisions and refuse to listen to the courts and turn the d.o.j. into his personal law firm for retribution and take basic services that americans rely on like medicare and social security and stamp them with the trump branding and politicize them. this is the argument we need to make. i want joe biden to forcefully make it but whoever is at the top of the ticket are equipped to make it. >> mike: i'm struck by former speaker nancy pelosi's language who has been in politics a long time. she asked is it an episode or a condition? what do you make of that? >> i don't make diagnoses. i am a politician, not a doctor.

what i will say is that you have to look at the president's record, not just 90 minutes. americans have four years and 50 years to evaluate joe biden. deep relationships and expertise in foreign policy rallied the free world to ukraine, put the united states in a stronger position relative to china than any time and walked a tight rope in the middle east. he has a strong record. he took over an economy flat on its back. 18 million small business applications and 15 million jobs. the episode is his first term and that first term has been a strong success. we have to maintain the momentum as democrats. >> shannon: congressman, we appreciate your time. thanks for coming in today. >> mike: millions taking to the sky the fourth of july. how to avoid travel headaches if you are heading out of town. jocelyn nungaray's family confirming horrifying details about the 12-year-old's murder

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>> not only are schools out for the summer but parents have the ability to work remotely from anywhere. so with that option, many people have chosen to extend their july 4th holiday travel vacation weekend, whatever it might be. >> shannon: america is on the move. more than 70 million people expected to travel during the july 4th holiday. aaa projects 6 million of them will fly to their destinations. alexis mcadams live at newark

liberty airport in new jersey. >> new issues here yet this morning. with holiday travel that could change in a second. i will step out of the way. the tsa behind us. yesterday there was some issues, newark had to pause arrivals because they're dealing with an air traffic control shortage. philadelphia airport is helping out with some staffing trying to make sure things go smoothly. they know it will be a busy one. expected to be the busiest july 4th on record. airports across the country. nashville and seattle, tacoma there. those are the outside. it looks like on the inside we'll have to see as the day goes on. tsa says a record number of travelers will pass through security checkpoints this year. the busiest travel days will be today and the 7th and 8th of july as people return on top of a packed travel period add in

hurricane beryl that is currently sweeping through the caribbean leaving severe damage in its path. two people died and many others left without power. it could lead to big delays. >> you want to keep an eye headed somewhere in the caribbean or gulf coast. sign up for alerts through your airline and then also download an app of another airline should your flight get delayed or canceled and safe to go to your destination. that's the fastest way to rebook. >> traffic on the roadways also expected to be unprecedented as one in five americans are set to drive to their destination. back here at the airport a flight had to land overnight supposed to be heading to amsterdam and diverted to jfk. the plane was full of spoiled meals on the inflight meal service. no word in anybody got sick or ate it but they had to land at

jfk. >> shannon: the food is never the reason to fly anyway. >> mike: heart wrenching details on jocelyn nungaray's murder. she was sexually assaulted before being strangled and left for dead allegedly by two illegal immigrants. >> it will be almost impossible to, you know, to get rid of this feeling of loss. as of now, we just know that the tests are positive for sexual assault. i want them not just to use my granddaughter as a political base but know her name as jocelyn nungaray. we want to make a difference for her. >> mike: let's bring in leo terrell an attorney and fox news contributor. welcome. what is your reaction to that revelation that this sweet 12-year-old girl was sexually assaulted before she was

strangled? >> horrific. it means one thing that bail should immediately be revoked and now we're talking about a death penalty eligible case. mike, this goes beyond jocelyn. american women are being attacked by illegal immigrants. we're basically importing immigrants under the -- illegal immigrants under the biden administration. we're importing criminals. president trump was right in 2016. we're getting the worst from all these countries and under the biden administration, mike, they ended title 42, they stopped building the wall, they stopped the remain in mexico program. every policy that trump had in place was working but this open border policy has basically allowed american women and men to be subject to criminal attacks by illegal aliens. it is a sad day for this family. >> mike: two venezuelan men are

charged with capital murder. they crossed the border illegally earlier this year. does that make a border crisis connect with people all over this great country? >> yes, mike. let me tell you now. look at the polling. illegal immigration is the number one or two issue on the minds of american citizens. every state is a border state and jocelyn's death, along with the other women who have been assaulted, will be on the ballot in november. president trump made it clear. he contacted this family. where is joe biden and alejandro mayorkas, where is kamala harris and her so-called we'll find the root causes? illegal immigration has created a crisis in this country. it is a national security problem. and this young family -- by the way, jocelyn had a 5-year-old brother. he is going to be missing her for the rest of his life. >> mike: we're showing our audience a map of crimes committed over the past two

weeks allegedly by illegal migrants. tulsa, oklahoma, irving, texas, indiana, upstate new york, sir cute and albany and new york city. does it mean we all live in border states now? >> yes, mike. and i think the coverage by fox news unfortunately the other left wing media will not cover this. this is a problem for america. and what joe biden has done and what alejandro mayorkas has done is turned their back on this problem. what they are trying to do right now a couple months before the election will not change the course of what is happening in this country. the question this family will have to face now is the penalty phase that will happen once this case goes to court because the family does not want the death penalty. they want these two individuals ages 21, 26 if convicted, life in prisonment without the possibility of parole. let them stay in jail if they are convicted and think about

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>> so your car here drove into on coming lanes of traffic. >> mike: oh my, a scene playing out in phoenix, body cam footage showing a police officer pulling over a driverless car. the officer can be heard saying the car drove into on coming traffic. it did not receive a ticket. >> shannon: wait a minute. somebody has to get a ticket for that. the car driving into on coming traffic. >> shannon: here is a police siren or sees the lights is there a censor the tells the car you must get to the side of the road? >> mike: error, error. >> shannon: how many officers have pulled over cars to realize nobody is in there? please let us know your story. well, now this. president biden's shaky debate worrying his former boss, president barack obama. according to the "washington post", the former president told

allies the debate made biden's path to re-election even more difficult. growing concerns about the president's performance on the world stage. let's bring in retired lieutenant colonel daniel davis, good to see you this morning. >> good to be here, thank you, shannon. >> shannon: i want to play something from secretary blinken who served this president and continuing to defend him. >> if you look at surveys around the world, for what they are worth, you see again and again and again that confidence in american leadership has gone up dramatically over the last 3 1/2 years. it doesn't just happen. it is the product of choices, the product of policies that we pursue, the product of our engagement and they see president biden having led the way in all of those different areas. >> shannon: colonel, how do you think foreign leaders viewed that debate on thursday night? what does it mean for us? >> well, i don't think there was any truth in any of the things he said in that whole sentence

there, that whole clip there especially after the debate process. look, you have to put him in a situation and imagine the president of the united states is not just supposed to give a good debate or just supposed to be able to engage in a foreign leader when it happens. you have to be able to be pro-active and you have to have set the agenda and use diplomacy to push things in a direction you want and a vision people want to follow. right now he can't even keep his mind focused on a single sentence. anything he is saying. when he froze at the first of that debate that's the latest in a long string of them. can you imagine if he is sitting having a debate with xi or vladimir putin over something that could end up in nuclear war one way or the other? you can't afford to freeze up or not be able to speak company hereently. i think it is a real problem. forget about the election. this is much bigger than that. >> shannon: "wall street journal" reported a couple weeks ago talked about this and how

his mind would wander and need prompting in certain meetings. members of congress were there to talk to him about issues of national security and they were very concerned about his ability to focus and do these things. so who is to blame that we're in this position now? because this is a man on the ticket unless his party does something radical and he decides to step away. he is the one who has been for the last 3 1/2 years negotiating all those meetings you talk about. >> it's a combination. it stops first and foremost with the president because he is the guy that's making the decisions. the one that's on the ticket. but then just right below that is the democratic leadership. they've got to see that this is not something good either for the democratic party or for the united states. if you can't have somebody who is genuinely sharp and on top and can provide leadership in a world with so many potential wars that could suck us into one of them which would all be bad for us. you have to have somebody who is

on the top of their game and right now the fact is he is not. i think something needs to change. i don't see how this can continue on and us be safe. >> shannon: former defense secretary mark esper had this to say. >> it is very, very serious. if you are a foreigner, an ally, a partner, you are looking at this and you start questioning does he have the stamina to go another four years? look, you can't help but answer and say no. >> shannon: quick final word from you, colonel? >> i don't know -- it's questionable whether he can be successful in between now and january 20th of 2025. i don't see any prospect that he can go another four years. it doesn't matter who you want to vote for you have to have somebody in there that can do a job. >> shannon: happy independence day to you. >> thank you, same to you.

shannon. >> mik