that is seven-year-old texas native alan gage. he won the prize for making his grandmother's recipe blueberry pie. he's now the youngest person ever to qualify for the fairs. best in show. >> that was in october. he thanked his grandma when he won the award. >> oh, that's so sweet. looking fantastic, tom. okay. this is a sport that will sweep the nation. a town in england held an egg russian roulette competition over the weekend. >> and the game is simple. you have six eggs. all but one are hard boiled. >> the loser literally has egg on their face. >> look at that. that is so well done. do they get salmonella? >> keep it away from your mouth. you know, you don't want the raw eggs going near your mouth. >> it's in the u.k., not a waffle house. all right. and by the way, we found out that sea lions and walrusesthis are part of the same family. so that's it forspecia us.ngle. >> have a great night. >> welcome to a speciale wa

edition of jesse waters primetime on this ev e of independence day. i'm will cain. and we start with the fox newsh alert. just moments ago, joe biden wrapped up a meeting, jo with dozens of democrat governors at the white house as the nation questions his competence. and the white house denies reports that he's seriouslyonsie considering stepping down. senior white stseniortrespondenri jackie heinrich is here with the latest jackie. >> well, that was really >> rg. n the we had three governors come out and speak to reporters after this meeting that lastedtors a w about an hour and a half. it wasn't until the third speaker, kathy hochue thirdl, te heard definitively that biden is in it to win it. just reading t to it. my notes here, as we observed that all together, governor waltz said that we're all looking for a path to win. governor wes moore said it's we're honest wes md about feedk and concerns. it's not that we have a it's not that we're afraid of the alternative, but we have hope for the future. for that certainly it was not t didn't put a pin in thewhet

question of whether biden's candidacy is a moving targethe still. was so that is pretty notable. meantime, "the washington posthi is keeping a tracker of democratic lawmakersor who have called for biden to drop out and also expressions of concern reall ty just a notee of the moment that we are in. it didn't include are e the latt call for him to drop. stms came just last hour fro massachusetts congressman seth moulton. he wrote, when your current strategy isn't working, it's apparently the right decision to double downget yo president biden is not going to get younger. i'm taking time to seriously consider the best strategy forsi democrats to win this election and set our country on a positived sey path forward. that statement comes right after house democraticmocc leadership held a conference call this evening following reports that members l thisulatin are circulating two letters, one calling for biden to drop cat few days don'ts, go well and the other demanding it. the biden campaigne other is ao denying that there's a succession plan underway. should president biden decide

to step aside, cnn reported that biden would first throwt fi his support behind vice president harris and then former presidents and partbehind y leaders would follow suit to stave off a contentious fight for the ticket f . the campaign tells fox thereaign is, quote, t literally zero truh to this report. but the biden campaign co-chairn is openly voicing his support is o primary. call >> if president biden calls it quits. >> you can actually fashion the process that's already in place to make it a mini primary, and i would support that. absolutely. kamala harriprimary d i's herseo in that kind of a process. woud but then it would be fair t to everybody. so all of the other governors who may be interested. >> we haven't yet seen the fulla impact of this debatete on the polling, on the fund raising, never minon pol, fundrd the increasing calls for biden to drop. coming from editorial boards like the boston globe put out today and this moment from the democratic governors

who met with the president, 22 of them not hearing the presd that he's in it firmly until the third speaker really means this question continues into tomorrow. >> all right, jackie, welcome to the break in the news cycle. >> happy 4th of july. thank you, jacki. o and by the way, every 4th of july week, i find myself sittinly wee myselg around a fi. >> i check in my phone. i'm always looking for breaking nba news, you know, trades, free agency signings, hirings thd firingnewsys. they're called woes bombs. they always seem to land around the 4th of july this year. the news is coming fast and furious is because politics has taken center stagelitics h t it's usually dead at this time of the year. tiyear. today politically, this is the mosttif exciting 4th of july since 1776. we're getting updateouy sinces p minute. so stay buckled up for a political bomb. t no right now, president joe biden is launching a full court press to convince his party a to stay the course and keep hinm on the ticket. and nothing shows confidence

like the president, the viceurps president making a surprise appearance on a dnc call telling staffers oa dn that he e be pushed out of the race, quote, let me say this as clearly as i possibly can. f as simple and straightforward as i can, i am running, . s pusn no one's pushing me out. o i'm not leaving. i'm in this race to thuti'e end and we're going to win the white house trying to project the same level of confidenc e. he >> i got the fundraiser. the president blamed jet lagt bd for his debate performance, but he was back stateside for well over a week. so does he really need o recove more than a week and a half to recover from from from travelintraveling in europe? >> he owned that the debate wasd not his best night. e said and it and he said himself, it's not an excuse, but it's an explanatio notutn. umerou you did get numerous questions yesterday about the president'ys debate performance. unu didn't mention trave.l, the jet lag, the foreign trip. so i think you can understand

whdehyy it was a little bitt puzzling to hear the president mentioning that as his explanation for the first time last night. >> and i would say that is my bad sayt is. i did. i didn't know that. but we were so focused. i wa s so focused on the car, on the cold. >> is president focuseg steppingde down? >> absolutely. absolutely notning step. every summer we do stories about sharks and shark attacks at every beach. the sharks are now in the white house press pooltacks,w in. she is right, though, karine jean-pierre. everyone doeh,s have bad days, but having one bad day doesn't lead to this kind of fallout. biden's debate performance ne on to've beenight the diminished president we've fo years.d ing for and once democrats were forcedon werey, well,realit they've panicked because they know their dog and pony thr show has been exposed in another all hands call todayf ,white house chief of staff jeff zients told staffers to keep their heads downstaff so tune out the noise. blindhopingnd either allies

in the media employed for years. they're hoping they will again willfully ignore biden's daily blunders. fox has obtained an all staff biden campaign memo inte talking points about hofw the team should interact with people who want to step away fro wm biden. >> here are some of the tips. s they say things like help everyone understanay tpd the ful picture on the president's support. >> amplify the president's engagements and our grassroots energy, and remind people of the choiced remind between bided trump. even though i'm pretty sure last week's debate was just that. it was a reminder. it was the only reminder needed by the american people. a real recipe fo r success there in those talking points. and biden's own party doesn't believe that's a recipe for success. biden's own party is turninge succ get against him and it's going w to get worse as more liberals se line up the courage to speak out, whichak is why, after askil our allies for nearly a week, biden had to pick upa we the phe and start calling the likes

of chuck and nancy to assure ste like he's not quite dead ye. and his jackie just told us he met with democrat governors at the white house trying to keep potential successorsemoe at bay. i find it more notable that dozens of democratic o governors on the eve of the 4thu i july had to be convincelyd to meet joe biden at the white house. i find that muche notabl more ne than three who do not include any names that might replace cam joe biden came out in assured us that the president is in it to win it. powerhouses like gavin newsom or j.b. pritzker werey in attendance, but they weren't there at the microphonn't there >> and maybe the fact of their attendance gave some level of relietheiattendf to the campn >> pritzker, by the way, is a leading member of the biden-harris advisory board. >> but before today's meeting, he said he hadn't hearory boarde from the president sinceid the debateent si. ve >> when it comes to this. h have you personally heard from from president biden sinceeard t? the debate last thursday night? >> i have not spokenin

with people in the campaign, but not with the president. >> that' nots kind of surprising given obviously, you are a member of the campaign. you're in a state that's hosting the democratic convention come august. are yostate ting theu surprisedn you have not heard from himom h directlyim? i think it's important for the president to talk to not lea just the leaders of the democratic party across the board, but generallyde the nation. and i'd like to hear more from him. >> and maybe he hear>>d more frh joe biden tonight at the white house. but why why did biden avoid talkinuse. toto worried lawmakers for so long after making them s turn suicidal with his debate performance schedule conflicts ? >> why was he doing that on friday and why was he doing this sort of damage controay, a >> why would you want him doing that? not waiting to do that until middle of this week. and so he was busy dealing with, you know, dealing with his schedul>> he was busyso speaking directly and engaging with his supporters and then fal spend time with his family. i think what's important is that he hasy.'s done thisvint

outreach. >> he's having these conversationhese conve buss busg from the debate with hunter. ll and dr. jill is apparently a multi-day process. and all this damag ntly a me control, it feels like it could be it looks like too little, too late. >> a growing coalition of house. democrats are reportedly drafting a letter calling on president biden to end his reelection efforts. the dam is breaking. there are crackshere in a white house that was once airtight, now can't stop leaking.a it was a bombshell report frombo the new york times today saying president biden told a close ally he's weighing, weighing whether or not he can continuealli in this race. >> joe's closest allieess usedt to swear up and down how fit he was. they would convince you of an alternate reality. they would gaslight you with lies. but no gasly w they're rushing t back to their favorite channels and their favorite reporters heirvorite cto pressure the pret to step aside. who's that? libby. no one knows who is leak. who's telling the new yorkoe

times that joe is considering weighing stepping out? >> i don't knos gw. chris coons, longtime, confident to the president andrb someone joe just spoke to yesterday, by the way, chris coone wa s. int. look, the knives are out. that's the point. the knives are out for biden. tharks are are circling. >> are there really are too thers to narrow downo who might be leaking that biden may not rueaking tn? iden democrats stood with biden for as long as the polls said that was the safe bet. but now the winds are shiftingo and everyone on the lefting is fighting for their seat come november. but now that his numberstheir si free fall, vulnerable democrats are running for the fire alarms freeer than jamaal bowman. democrats, including one of biden's closest friends. it was known for decades saywhoi his singlem fo upcoming damage control interview with george stephanopoulos george over the weekend. it won't be enough to assure the american people. >> look, i think they've got to do a lot of stuff. >> iy hae got to get him outre there this week. people thatow

he is strong. you know, they should have prepared us for a raspy voice on thursday night, to be perfectly frank. therfect. did >> so one interview isn't going to fix this either. nothing that's beer.n happeningd is encouraging. and so, you know, we all loveov george stephanopoulos and that's great. but like, it's got to be a lot more thae georgetn that.as t it's got to be a barnstorm, it's got to be a townhalls in hostile environments, probably like fox news and show us you could make make the case those people had ds next to their name and their right. >> one single interview with a man who used to be the press secretary for bill clinton, who's now peddle pd to us as a mainstream journalist. taped and edited, won' jot be enough to convince us that we have e a president capable of moving on of leading this country. of monwho knows what kind kin of restrictions the white house may be imposing, but the pressure falls on abc to deliver the truth to theal

nation. democrats are keeping all options on the table as they try to figurls on the ti whether to grin and bear biden's declining mental state or take decisiveniden actionl to install a more competent candidate. >> i know this is a moving target. it's got to happen quickly, but i can guarante, ite you, chris hayes, there will be massive unity and focus on that task when we get to the endwe of this process. s >> and it's happening very quickly. and democrats aren't jushatus nervous. they're getting angry, raging against leaders who kept this frait raginl president a secret long. in addition to nerves and rage, there's alsoto nerve delusion. biden campaign spokesperson says that voters actually wantsr to see joe still in the race. >> he isac the president of thee united states. he is the person the americas,sn people, democrats who voted in all 50 states in the primary ,that is who they want to beo their nominee. he is the nominebee fore nomi president of the united states, for the democratic partyne. an't we can't go against the will of the voters. he doesn't want to gt the wio al

the will of the voters. voters want to see him stay in this racers. s. >> they want to see him fight. well, adrian, polls suggestvels that's not true. unprecedented levels of dissent against the presiden ote comi are coming from the left elite internal democratic polling bid memo shows biden's dwindling support among his own voters. dw40% of biden, 2020 voters sayf joe should suspend his current s campaign now so that another democrat can tak e the reins. say and only 45% say biden should stay in the race. a brand new wall street journal poll says 80% of americans think joe is too oldns to be president. that same poll has. trump leading biden by six points nationally. but i do agree democratic voters picked joe biden in a primary forr pr president. so now what? media elitesesident, and politik elites, barack obama get to pick who will be the nominee for president. that's a lot of undermining democracy in order to save democracy.

look, the next few days are criticalthe , though, for j. survival at the top of the ticket. next week, he'll take questions from reporters week at a nato . conference. first, he'll sit down, as we mentione fi ad, with abc for a taped tap interview on friday that will air on sundaedy with george stephanopoulos. and the washington post just reported that bidestephano.n ait have come around to the fact that he needs to perform fors ci the american people or it's curtains saying the presidenyingt must, quote, quickly demonstrate his fitness for office or facehi a significant effort to force him to step asidp aside.e. r luckily fojor joe, he has two opportunities to do that within the next two weeks.c all right. prt's bring in former thancratic presidential candidate dennis kucinich. >> thanks for being with us tonight. i wantr bein to to start with. thank you. it is it is awkward, right? clearly, if your primary purpose is to win an election,ie joe biden might not be your best choice as a democratstch to winoice a the office of presidency. but democratic voters picked joe biden. but de joewhy does some i don't,

a cabal of elite people in the media or in politics som gee say, no, it's not going to bn?eu biden. >> yeah, i mean, you make a good point there. and just m full disclosure, i'm on about as an independenti . but i can look at this clearly ca atay this election isn' about one debate. it is about inflation. it is abou inflatit the economy, high prices. it's about border, the border. it's aboutt money spending money for endless wars. about a $35 trillion debt and government spying on americans. now, president biden debt is goingo dr to drop out. he'l l be judged by his economic judge. pres and he's the president, as youid just pointed outt poin. ld h why should he be forced out? by whom? by the mediae ? by the political class? the american people are going to makoliticale the decision on election day who who the president shouldould be. be and i think that there's a lot of time between now and then for the biden campaign to writer their ship of state that's currently in turbulence.

inbut the fact of the matter is our constitution establishes a position of president. and if his if he's going to leave, there is a constitutional path to doing that. and we've go patt to follow the constitution, right? >> yeah, i would love to believe will: r t what you sy is true, dennis, that the american people will pic k novem the president in november. but it sure looks like somebody bus likee of the voice of theic american people will pick who's running for president, at least as a democrarunning t much earlb december. and they're doing it, dennis. er, and thng ithey're doing it.o >> you make a very good point. bringing up all the policies that are important goo to ameris right now. we're having this entire rinversation not because ame joe biden is mentally incapacitated, not becausell we should talk about the 25th amendment, not because he's compromising american security. we're having this conversation because there's a belief here's abelief win. and that seems to be the theandr inappropriate and wrong conversation. the right conversation is who leadonnversation.s america now g capable of leading for anothertt

four years? >> well, you know, you know what's interesting about thiinse discussion? on one hand, you have democrat some democrats are tryin somgenh to give the president the heave. on the other hand, you hadohn th some people in the democratic party who, you knowc, with what you could call lawfare, tried to determine wi nominee ablican would be and tried to forceo trump out through various prosecution. so, you know, what's happening to ourosecutio country. we've got to get back intoet a discussion of what the candidates will do for america. you know, with these high prices, with the economy, weirdness from everybody. yeah, i dennis, i, i don't knowe if the email didn't arrive in your inbox, but i think e-maivcracre doing is destroying democracy in the name of saving democracy. othey will engineer, as you point out, both sides of the ticket in the raced out bo fordr president in the name of saving democracy. >> greatac. >> from either side. this is it. eithanno

t stand for a coup cou to be generated againstgainst president trump on one hand, against president biden, on the otherident bihe other. thank you. yes, that's how you savenk y a constitutional republic. dennis kucinich, thanks so much for being on water fors tonightg >> thank you very much.ht thank you. all right. a senator tommy tuberville joins me now. senator, thanks. thanks for being with us tonightsenator,. t >> i would love your reaction to what we saw at the top of the hour whe, three democraticno governors come out and assurers everyone com that joe biden is in it to win it. this senator, after severalenatr dozen democratic senators, met with joe biden at the whits ea clow house. >> well, what a clown show. i mean, what are these democrant governors think? they're electing a homecoming king. i mean, thise democr is a disas? we've all seen it for the last three and a half years a s o republican. and most of the democrats are so blinded, they cannot the sor from a non leader. and joe biden hadn't been making any decisions. nonleader people need to unders, including the democrats, our country, and thi us world is

on life support. and we've got a dementia riddefn leader, supposed leader in president biden running his country, but he's not peopl running and he's got people around him that are running it. and so are running we're it's we're in tough shape. >> you know, senator, there'se reports that there will be a letter coming out in the next couple of dayserin from democratic congressmen asking joe biden to suspend his campaignessman a. vernor he just met with democratic governors. there's leaks from within his own white house. i'm just curious what the straw that breaks the camel' whas bac, if he's going to be set aside, anti-democratic, i should say. and he's going to be sets aside, who's the one that does it? who pulls him aside? drthat doe. jill biden? k obam barack obama. who breaks it to joe? he won't be the nominea? e for president. >> you know. well, we'll run the show. will. joe biden is running>> jill th. you know that. and joe biden is not making any decisions. ng t he's gotten worse. he's going to get worse everywos day from 16 weeks from now. he's going he's going to really

deteriorate. l hi but they can't pull him out. he's the president of united states. he's got to make that decision. he's got enough votes from his state to to be the get the delegate votes. ppens. >> and so we'll see what happens. to youill: to r point, to your , senator, if he's going to get worse, that's that's notat's a that's a very logical that's a bit of logical foresight and prediction. it's jussight stunning knowing that to be the case. there were the conversation thout whether he can winr h the presidency, the congress, it should be. can he perform as presidenhouldi >> sarah tommy tuberville, thanks so much for being with us tonight. thanghnk youk you, will. insid >> all right. the inside play to put kamale a into the oval office. chris jansing on fox and friends watch is must see performance friday when this goes down and new year is

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>> well, democrats scheme up a biden switcheroo. joe is keeping his friends closdeswitchere, but his vicehii president closer since biden's debate disaster, kamala mor is enjoying a little more prominence at the white house, joining in on daily briefingecee and having a closed door lunchos with the president this afternooed-dooh win. to be a fly on the wall for those meetings. joe see her as his successor? >> the president and i know you will remember this fact in 2020 referred to himself as a transition candidate. he also said back then that he would be a bridge to the nextex generation of democratic leaders. doest he still believe that? >> yes. i mean, i think his statement stands . i mean, one of the reasons why he picked the vice president, president kamala harris, is because she is indeed the future of ths beshe party. : >> but i bs the future now, kamala says not so fast. she's standing by the stesident and she's very proud . look, joe biden is our nominee d

. we beat trump once and we're going to beat him again. period. w are you ready to lead the country if necessary? i am proud to be joe biden's running mate. >> thank you. so kamala's not entertaining a succession rumors right now. times like these, you got to play your cards close to thebest vest. but not everyone's staying quiet. there's a growin ig call for kamala to lead the democratic ticket. >> she's overtaken t biden as the favorite to become the 2024 democratic nomineeth in the betting markets. in pennsylvania, democrat, can't some early says her party can't wait any longer. the timetlonger. to replace joen with kamala harris is now. >> we have time that is running out. time is not on our side right now. >> we got a few months to do a monumental task that is not cheap. >> that is not easy, which means that right nowright no, if our president decides that this is not the pathway forwards foe

him, then it means that we are going to have to move there . >> the vice president is the obvious choice becausethe vd he's sitting right there. as somebody who has been in the white house,who hath as somebody who already has the name recognition, who's already outad on the trail. but the reality is the optics are pushing a black woman is there not good. you know, if democratse are seriously considering replacing joe, they need to remember the promisesously c. they made to voters in 2020, nominating anyon anyone e but ka harris can alienate loyal black democrat voters. >> you got to build consensus. and there is not consensus pic right now. if you pick a white man or become a harrik s black women, i can tell you this, we going to walk away. we're going to blow the party upk . but the kamala hype trainut t is putting the vice president on a collision course with none other than the first lady who has disliked her ever

since she took shots at joedebae in the 2020 democratic primary debate. >> but i also believe and it it' is personal and i wason actually veral andy it was hurtl to hear you talk about the reputations of two united states senators who built their reputations and career on the segregation ts of race in this country. do you agree today? y th >> do you agree today that youe were wrong to opposewron bussing in america? >> so according to a bookjill released just this spring, jill wanted anyone but kamalnte to be joe's running mate, saying, quote, there are millions of peoplema in the united states. why do we have to choose the one who attacked joe? one joe listens to jill more thane anyone. will shelisten let her husband y hand over the keys to the whitee house to her mortal frenemy? we shall see. former secretary dr. ben carson joins us now. dr., thanks for being with w

us tonight. it would seeould seem to that, l of all, as we mentioned by the promises made by the democratic party and the reasons that kamala harris foun e byd herself on the ticket, there's no way to sidestep her. shoulde ticket joe biden sidestp the presidency? it would have to be kamala harrissidest hav. >> well, there's no question. will that it would be difficult. but we have to recognizer wh is that it doesn't matter who it is, whether it's kamala or one of the governors that was there are many the other names that have been mentione thed. all be they all believe the same things that joe biden believedli to differences that they may have some degree of competence e . but the thing that theth american people are railing against are thesing that ae pol and if we have somebodyrstand who doesn't understand the importance of having a secureof a border, who doesn't understand our position of leadership on, the worldstag, stage, who doesn't understand how to use our energ doesn'ty rs

in an appropriate way i to alleviate the financial burdens of the american people, who doesn't understand how tocr, deal with crime? you know, it's the ie same situationsame s. y we just don't have somebody who's mentally incompetentpetene and, you know, this whole question of of joe bidene deba and the debate being an aberration, you know, ansomethin aberration is something that doesn't occur on a normal basis. basie sit happening all th time with joe biden. so it's not really an n aberration with hiot an abm. that's a it puts all of us it puts all of us at risk. you never know when something bad is going to happen alatto happea likelihood because of all the terrorists that are in our country. >> that's exactlrorist oury whar j.d. vance is saying. he put out the following postr v on xan,. democra he said democrat party elites and their media mouthpieces are now obsessedites with replacing biden on the ballot. but if he's unfit to run but for president, he certainly isn't fit to be the president. if he doesn't run agait ton.

he needs to resign as commander in chief. how much, though, do we increase the competency? dr. carson, if we move? to kamala harris, i mean, she's certainly at the top ofp f her game. joe biden is not too top of his game. but hisi wonder what the ceilig is with her even at the top of p her game when it comes to competency. t >> well, the thing that worries me most about he r is whereverople she goes, her staff people leave and she doesn't seem to be able to inspireire people. and she seems to be somewhatle - mean. at that's not what we need right now. our country is i right non dire need of someone who can help bring people together. some of the things that you saw with president trump recently and some of those rallies in new york and nef thwrom al jersey bringing people from all different backgrounds together. thiseren is what we need. not someone who irritates and destroys relationshiirritat

so that's just as serious as the fact that shes may not be particularly confident, as was demonstrated by the fact that she certainly did not do a good job as the czar for the border. >> right. one last questio.n that kamalaaf harris. any of that criticism that you just offered, whether or not th it's been about her handling of the border or her competency hae border met with the shieldfe of, well, that's either sexist or that's racist? it seems to me that carried a lot of weight. maybe some four or five years ago in america. i just wonder what you think the appetite is in america today to be protected from criticism by playin ag the race card? e ra well, the race card has beens be effective in the past, but i efk people getting a little tired of it, sort of like the boy who cried wolfro too often. and, you know, we can see on both sides the proliferation of black influence and bothmocrt the democrat side and the republican side. so there'snd republica really n.

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is public comments read between the lines. . this move seems a bit calculated. this movc. in publi skewer him behind closed doors. it shouldn't come as a surprisme . remember, obama chose hillary as his successor over biden in 2016 and then in 2020. i andhe also reportedly advised joe not to run. the joe should deal with the mess his son hunter was making. there's this false narrative falsethat joe barry are the bet of friends. it's really pretty one sided.. it's kind of sad. the leakone-side just gave rank and file democrats cover to conduct a covert white house coup. five prominent democratsing fo have come out calling for joe to drop out. that's julian castro, who workedrop out. with the obaa administration. posted today, president biden is not the campaigner he was in 2020 and looks very likely to lose to trump.should president biden should fulfill his promise to be a bridge to the next generation fpromis b of leadership and allow a stronger democratic candidate. timeship and allow a is running

it's very cute. he's putting a spinin on the bottom line. but it is the bottom line. joe's got to go. democrats need a young, inspiring candidate who will unite the base. whe whand there's only one persn who seems to be able to do that. o michelle obama. she's the only democrat who is pulling aheasd of trump in the e polls. >> it does look to bs e in that1 hypothetical matchup up by 11. coul out we see a full1. obama coup? not a chance. but look at how belovedama's the obamas still are when they speak even behindst closedt doors. democrats listen. and the message right now is louenthe messisd and clear. joe's got to go out. kickoff founder clayout,.c travis joins me now on vacation for the 4th of july.jutt clay travis putting in the work. appreciate iin t, man. what do you think about the obamas and the role they're playing behind the sceneso u thint with biden? >> i think biden's done well. and thanks for having me fon. happy 4th of july to everybody out there. hope you're having fabulous starts to youro ev outthere, vai and your holidays. i don't see any way that joeon

se biden can be the nominee. he's going to lose. donald trump knockeddonald him s you are a big sports guy. well, this was like ali frazier. they ought to go ahead and put trump's face on. ali, if you remember famous shot where he's got his fist in front of him and he's holdinthatg as as frazier, i believe, is on the ground. and he's knocked him out. that should be, i think, an iconic image. we've never seen anything like this in a presidential debate. for a candidate to enter as potentially the favorite to win reelectioe ton, then exit with his political career over. that's what we saw happeporeer e to joe biden. i think he's finished as we sids here four months out.mocrat and so democrats are calculating, they're trying to figure ous t is kamala harri. the answer is michelle obama actually being honest or in her hometown of chicago, illinois. could she be persuaded in a contested convention to step forward? and then i think you have to think about josh shapir io, sylvan governor of pennsylvania, also gretchen whitmer, governor of

michigania. y it basically, the way it looks right now, democrats have a very sliocratsm to win in the et electoral college. they got to sweep wisconsior n. they got to win michigan. they got to win pennsylvania. it's thewin mi big trio just li, was in 2016. just lik jlikee it was in the 2i that is their pathwayy to reelectioton. and i don't see any wayi that biden can run it. i don't see andon'e any way than can win it. >> and s o i think he's done. >> and, you know, clay, there's a reason and maybe it's the only reason we end up talking about michelle obama. you pay a lot of attention you pay markets. the betting markets right now are favoring kamala harris. but the problea harrism with kas harris, in any analysis, for example, by barack obama f, who might be putting pressure to move on from joe is. >> yeah, but you're not moving of but notf of a losing hand ono a winning hand. kamala harris might be the bettinbetting favorite to wine i the nominee or to be the nominee as a democrat, but noe ist beat donald trump.di and so it's hard to find anyt'o namefind, honestly, outside

of michelle obama, where you have hope of beating donald trump. >> it also allows democrats, as you said, it alsos will to gt in your discussion. i thought it was so well said. you've got a black womans th that is the next person up. ist if she is the pick, if i moey move past her, if they don't respect her as's the choice, then it's racist and sexist. by democrat politics standards. that is unacceptable. and so it's going to be harde ha to getrd past karmal. and that's why i've always thought michelle obama as thae black woman that is actually popular, that democrats would want to votk woman whe for makes more as a palatable option than har kamala harris does. i think kamala would end up losing worse. would. >> biden i do as well. a k it's hard to come up with a name that might beat trump. all right, clay,nat be trump. gy the 4th of july. have a big night. have a big day. have a big holiday. ma n

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>> it's official the very people who put joe biden inton power are now turning their backs on himning. dec after ignoring his decline, they're finally reporting what we've been saying forthey s years. the new york times just put outj this piece saying biden's lapsesusthis pea are said to be increasingly common and worrisome. the time to bes says that in the months leading up to debate, several current and former officials l curren and othersnd who encountered him behind closed doors noticed that increasingl c y he appeared app confused or listless, or would lose the threat of conversationsstlessor wou. he so now they're changing their tune on the hoaxes they've been using the to prop k joe biden less than two weeks ago. the nes w york times wrote aboue cheap fakes videos they said were clearly manipulatedap to make him look old and confused while others cut him out of vital and context to portray him in a negative light. it's not what they're saying anymortive light.e, though.me the times now admitting, as evidenced by video footaging mr. biden is not the same today as he was when he took offic

hee three and a half years ago. the recent moments of disorientation generatedconcr concern among advisers and allies alike. >> they went from tellin andgyo you not to believe your eyes, to asking you to open your eyess wider. molly hemingway is the editor t in chiefd chie of the federalis. >> you know, molly, i know iisti sounds like the obvious pointu t to make, but sometimes you just have to hammer the obvious point. hammer the on or should any of e people or any of these institutions ever anr be trusted on any subject? frat's exactly the main takeaway that people should have from what we've witnessed in the last weekomtnesse the. as you note, hours before last week's debate, you had many members in corporate media claiming that stories and video evidence of joe biden's problems with senility and mental acuity were a conspiracy theory, that theye were misinformation and disinformation. they aren't tellinmiormationg ta now. all that's happened is that our medippened ia are worried

about their ability to drag joe biden across the finish line in november. and so now they are. yes telling some, you know, accurate things about joe biden's mental situation. but it's not because they're truth tellers. it's and theythey seekt realize that the task has become too difficult tha. o >> with joe biden at the head of the party and it just itpart dokey.s me wonder, i think any of us that do this for a livingt want this thing that we do forth a living to be better thanen the sick state it's in today media. right. and so- si do wonder, well, will the public ever understando if they're willing to go to these extends to lie on the capacity of the leadeier of the free world. won't they go to these woo torngths on any othe number of subjects? and the public open their eyes about, the media. >> right. people have been talking about pretty seriousple have bi, you know, since the since the 60s, even in the eighties. s itee was a big deal. las what we've seen in the last

6 to 8 years goes well beyond bias into outright propaganda and lying on behalf tf political allies and agains political opponents. it's not just that they lied about joe biden's situation th'st thy e worried that if they were to tell the truth that it might help republicans. e tr mightit's they lie about ey single issue of importance. and they've been doing it for years. they're doing it now and they're going to do it in the futur thee goinge. icans and so americans who care about their country, who are worried about the situatiowhirne we're in because of these media lies, should be thinking longwih and hard about whether to take anything they say with any bagree of trust, barring, you know, other evidence. and i just want to point outrrif what they were saying is trueno right now and if they're really concernew thed about joe bident mental acuity, why aren't their stories focused on the fact that he's currently the sitting president instead of jus t they're worriedmi that he's currently the nominee fonee 2024r the 2024 election? i mean, to make to overstate the obvious, if he can't not run for president, he can't be president for the next

seven months. he can't be in charge of our military. he can'ten charge you know. we've got a very delicate global situation. and yet the media are just focuseyed the political horse race, because that's what they care about. cartical power, not the country's well-being. absolutely. ry'seing.they're they're ready a this truth, not because they're concerned about the countrusconcerney, but -- but they're concerned about their ability to win, about their ability to retai ton power. gre >> molly hemingway, always great to hear from you. thank you so much. fromu all right. more primetime next before revolution. good for america. before destiny came calling, it was george. >> you have ambitions. i pride, sir. >> a pioneer, a soldier, a leader on the rise ready yourself that it is. get the general out of here now. this is the story of the greatest american. >> before there was an american. this is the story of george. george. george. rise [♪ of, a revolutionary.

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