>> kayleigh: a staggering 24 hours has weakened president biden's reelection. as he faces what me the most high-stakes pressure presidential news conference in modern history. remember today we were supposed to be talking about donald trump being sentenced. but we are talking about the survival of president biden politically. just hours from now, biden is set to give the solo news conference at the nato summit as he fights to prove he's fit for office. also senate democrats meeting with biden's top advisors to vented very serious concerns about biden's viability. house minority leader hakeem jeffries is about to hold a news conference as fear surged to the democratic party that biden will lose to donald trump in a historic g.o.p. landslide. we will take you to that when it happens here we've got a lot of breaking news. hello, everyone. this is a "outnumbered." i'm kayleigh mcenany with emily compagno, also joining us fox news contributor

tammy bruce, former nfl sideline reporter and host of the michele tafoya podcast. michele tafoya. and bill hemmer. happy to have him today. the stakes for biden's solo appearance at the nato summit are escalating by the hour is his support for his candidacy unravels. supporters from congress to hollywood are all warning that he needs to step aside for the sake of the party. meanwhile, new reporting by politico reveals former speaker the house house nancy pelosi has suggested to people that biden won't win this november and should step aside. she is encouraging democrats to speak out. we are also learning that former president obama knew about george clooney's devastating op-ed about biden. clooney reportedly told obama what he was about to say but obama didn't shape what was going to be said but didn't try to stop them. biden is desperately fighting to

keep his job, and two of the most powerful and influential democrats may not have his back. bill, i think it's important to pause for a moment before we get all the obama reporting and let it sink in. that right now during this hour as of three weeks ago were supposed to be talking about donald j. trump being sentenced in a manhattan courtroom just down the street. instead we are talking about the survival of biden. >> bill: it's been bumped to september and who knows if it will happen on the calendar for judge merch on in that month. i think you're right about it. there is moving parts right now as we speak. the story is changing by the hour. hakeem jeffries announcement that house democrats are going to meet again at some point in addition to what he has to stay at 12:30. biden staffers meeting with senators. you've got a memo that was obtained by the associated press about biden's path to victory and they point to wisconsin, pennsylvania and michigan is the clearest way to win again and

they also point out that no other challenger right now it will outperform joe biden in the democratic party. i think that's significant. they are fighting on the inside of the campaign as well as the white house. hillary's colton is a democrat from grand rapids, michigan, represents congressional district 3. it's been republican for a long time. democrats took control of it but it's still one of the swing districts. she just came out an hour ago and said biden should step down. gives you a sense i guess what she is thinking in a head-to-head race with a republican challenger that you have to be determined there's going to be primary races later in the summer. look at their washington post poll. head-to-head registered voters is 46-46. if i am biden, i'm like, that's good news. six to 7% of all voters. 85% of all voters think he's too old. then you go into this, little bit later here, if you were to

go with a backup plan according to what abc and "the washington post" has found, 29% among democrats named kamala harris. she easily led everybody else in the group but they had 30 candidates on this questi questionnaire. she's the only one in double digits. everyone was in single digits. it leads you to think that if biden drops out, how would they forge some sort of unanimous candidate for chicago or even during chicago. >> kayleigh: a ton of questions. as you noted, the tenth house democrat calling for him to step aside reports are there will be more. there waiting for foreign leaders to leave town and nato to wrap up. we will see if that happens. the big picture here as we look at this, the story last week was that the dam was breaking. we saw these democrats calling for them to step aside and then it was that the dam is holding. seems like at least in the front

of cameras house leadership was saying this. then you get clooney yesterday and i figure was significant and pelosi on "morning joe." all the more significant when you read the playbook today, we are told that he reached out, george clooney, to former president obama to give them a heads up. obama did not encourage or advise clooney to say what he said, he also didn't object to it. we are told from people familiar with it, saying pelosi is encouraging swing state democrats if you want to come out against biden, do so. wait for nato. >> tammy: it's remarkable that while clooney could call obama and talk to him, he couldn't call joe biden. he does this publicly. the public embarrassment and the evisceration of the sitting president, like him or not, a man that they have supported literally without fund-raiser up to just a few weeks before. and then also condemned everyone who pointed out the condition of the president including his

network, calling it cheap fix and now everyone is saying we knew. the bigger issue here is, in addition to not just -- doing this publicly, but it's also about condemning people who were trying to tell the truth about what was going on, that that was their answer. their answer was to smear and condemn as liars, as cheap fake makers and all of that. that's another element of that. that's what they want to. that was their goal. and so now it's clear and it's no coincidence, all of this began with the supreme court decision about immunity and then it was like oh, my god. our plan to kneecap trump is going to fail so now biden has to pay the price because the masters of the universe made a big mistake. no wonder the bidens are furious and fighting this and they should. that's what continues to happen. everyone on the democrat side deserves to be humiliated on

november 5th so this doesn't happen again. speaker we were discussing pelosi coming out on morning joe saying we are waiting for biden to make a decision. he's made a decision. then she put out another statement that said we are waiting for biden to make a decision. the same thing she said to joe scarborough but what's interesting is how carefully calc lighted pelosi west. politico saying she carefully ironed out what she wanted to say on "morning joe" biden's appointment view and keeping democrat leaders of rest of her intentions these comments were meant to serve as a subtle green light so that other members could come forward about their candid remarks. all this is being calculated. >> a million%. pelosi had demonstrated for years that nothing comes out of her mouth without a calculated and calculable intent and mo motive. george clooney comes out yesterday with his totally embarrassing published op-ed. your point, there is no way that he decided at his own kitchen table to do that.

someone told him to do that. either fund-raisers we want our money back. make it happen. or maybe or obama in this report of this conversation might or might not be accurate but at the end of the day he became their figurehead. this is in the wake of as we spoke with former speaker mccarthy same they don't have a leader. here's what that shows me. none of any of them have any type of spying to be the leader themselves. pelosi subtly encouraged people, why don't you just come out and say it. instead you get george clooney to do it? you have someone who is insulated and safe in hollywood to your bidding for you. what about the bidding of the commander in chief of the last four years? to the detriment and loss of 13 american servicemen's lives and our allied relationships not to mention the million ukrainians. what about the israeli -- the list goes on. yes they are complicit in the cover-up, these media figures but more so the democratic party figureheads and actors behind the scenes that have blessed this weird coup and now have

their arms up. i agree with you wholeheartedly. i am popping popcorn. at the end of the day, there's nothing to put your feet up about, g.o.p. it's important everyone votes because no matter what, whether he backs out, when they have another candidate in place or continue in the war of the five kings, it's up to us to have solidarity in november. >> here's what i'm interested in tonight. i think biden is going to do better-than-expected. here's why. i've stood at a podium and done press conferences and i've been in hostile interviews. hostile interviews are harder than press conferences. there's one microphone at a press conference in the white house staff controls the second microphone. they can let the reporter asked the question and take it away. very little back-and-forth. they can maintain this. abc, george stephanopoulos, you've got someone grilling you, to microphones. i think he will do well tonight. the low bar, well, for joe biden. i'm curious to see what happens after. do democrats take this as a signal? let's pull back the drafts we

have of our statements as reported by politico? or do they say we are still -- we still don't believe he can win back. >> michele: it's we are watching every physical movie makes, every word that comes out of his mouth. because now liking that scene in "the wizard of oz," the court not pull back on "the wizard of oz." we see was at the controls and we are not very competent in that human being. watching every move, listening to every word. slowly but surely these various people are saying he should withdraw or i am with joe. they are all fighting their time -- biding their time. they think they have time to resuscitate him or they think there's time to find a new candidate. here's what irks me is an american. what about the time that we are passing right now and the danger these countries and because we don't know who's running the ship. who has their hands on the steering wheel? not just for the next four months but for the next 4 minutes. things are changing hourly. things are changing every minute

and what's working to me is that yes, the state of minnesota, angie craig said he should step down. everyone is playing it safe based on what works for them. what about what works for us? >> kayleigh: jesus take the wheel, that's a carrie underwood song. it about 20 minutes, house minority leader hakeem jeffries is holding a news conference. senate democrats are meeting with biden sr. advisors as pressure intensifies for biden to quit the race. will bring it to you life. new reports, donors teaching biden. that's next. the roof! think about this: blue jays, cardinals, orioles... what's missing? the andean condor? no, walnut-brain! pigeons! they'd rather name a team after socks! to be fair, we're not very athletic. ♪ ♪ have you always had trouble losing weight and keeping it off? same. discover the power of wegovy®. ♪ ♪ with wegovy®, i lost 35 pounds. and some lost over 46 pounds.

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>> emily: fox news confirming that there is been a major slow down in biden campaign

fund-raising. democrats revealing people are starting to tap on the brakes on president biden in the wake of the debate. take a look at the new reports in the last 24 hours. everything is frozen. democratic donors warned of campaign funds drying up as joe biden what's on that it's already disastrous. once was close to the biden campaign adding the money has absolutely shut off. another revealing donors are negative. they had a call with the president. the call seemed so contrived people. i don't think they buy it. the white house is calling all these reports of course not accurate. tammy what do you expect when the biggest fund-raiser in democratic party history and a megadonor george clooney, he was the one that called off the spigot. this is the natural reaction to that. >> tammy: what's strange is that whether it's biden or someone else the democrat party needs that money. someone's going to run. somebody's going to need for the down ballot races. that's what everyone's worried

about. if you stop the money and maybe it wouldn't be stopped if everyone wasn't doing this publicly. it's like arsonists setting their own home on fire. oh, my gosh, there's no money. if money has stopped doesn't mean it goes to -- obviously we believe kamala harris can get the money that's in the campaign now because her name is on the campaign, i believe that's the case. no one else can get the campaign chest money but she could use it because she's part of that team i believe. it was going to be kamala harris, then keep putting the money in. you can at least move a larger democratic party message they can even do that because they're all worried about this. strangely enough. so anybody else, if it's gavin newsom or gretche gretchen whitmer, suddenly as the money going to suddenly pour into her in the three weeks they would have left? it's a very strange dynamic but it's the kind of chaos that has been sown in this country economically for foreign policy, around the world, now we know why everything is such a mess.

it's as though you've got ten different people not talking to anybody else trying to figure out what to do but they don't know what to do. they were relying on one thing that did not happen and now it's a cartoon. the nation is at stake, as you have noted, michele. people's lives are at stake. it's not a board game or you wrap it up and then go on dinner. people are dying right now including our hostages. we've got hostages in israel. nobody knows their names. this is insane. >> emily: is this a ransom tammy's point? they are withholding it until biden drops out in the money will come forth because you cannot win an election without a war chest. >> michele: no question about it. this is the are you going to laugh or cry department. if they try to tell you we are -- grassroots are really strong, that's great. that's fine. but fund-raising is such -- my war chest is bigger than your were just kind of deal.

i think honestly democrats are coming to the realization that they are likely going to lose this round. i really think they're coming to that conclusion. they are saying why am i going to pour money into this campaign when the writing appears to be on the wall? i'm going to be wasting my money throwing good money after bad. when you know what, it will only be trumped for four years. >> emily: kayleigh, what does this portend? >> kayleigh: i think it portends a change of the top of the ticket. i am thinking kamala harris on the glossy covers with all of hollywood and the media is a powerful thing. kamala is one thing. kamala plus media, that's a whole different thing. as you're seeing headlines, it's already disastrous. the money has shut off and they are saying we've got the grassroots. politico says the person close to the campaign says grassroots fund-raising is going to be down 20% this month. if that's the case i don't see how you don't go with kamala

plus the glossy covers. >> emily: deal, i want to end with you on this. poly market has 80% of the market share for productions and on july 3rd pauly market peaked at 75% odds that biden would drop out. since then it's been following the whiplash kayleigh described. down to 45%. now with this it's spiked again so at the of the day we put our money in vegas? >> bill: i will let you do this. we talked about trump sentencing day which was supposed to be today and he is struggling for cash and it was that trial that really seemed to turn things around and the conviction shot up the fund-raising for trump. second quarter fund-raising. talk about a reversal of fortune. biden was at 206 to 4 million. trump is at 331 million. we all know, he was on that phone call you described as contrived.

he didn't see that waiver that was the way he heard it but i will say if you're going to run a campaign, we saw this during the republican primary, if you've got the money, you've got the time. nikki haley have the money. she was able to stick in for a long time. ron desantis' money dried up quickly. he burned through the cash. he had nothing left to stand on and his candidacy was over. if we find ourselves still talking about this in two weeks, we go back and revisit the dollar amounts, may be either something that's real here about the money not coming in anymore. if that's true, that may be all things being equal right now, that may be the one final contributive factor to having a face-to-face conversation with joe and jill. >> tammy: would kamala harris want to run and lose? is that how she sees her legacy? she ran and failed. that's a very difficult thing to

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>> kayleigh: more news, we just heard from senator manchin, the moderate at senator reed there in the middle, let's listen. >> my main concern is that health and well-being of the president. i think he'll make the right decision. the right decision is what rights -- it is right for him. >> kayleigh: interesting and

we are learning minutes ago, this is "the new york times." they have three individuals that are sourced anonymously who say that the biden-harris campaign is quietly polling kamala harris at the top of the ticket. this is the biden-harris campaign at according to "the new york times," three anonymous sources, they are polling kamala harris if she were to take the lead. all of that notably coming at 12:30 has biden's campaign is sitting down with senators both to hear them out but also to plead their case. bill hemmer, it's hard to keep up with a piece of news. >> bill: there's a couple ways of looking at this. what if they find she does know better? you go into that meeting and say here are the numbers. we did them ourselves. joe is going to do better, period. going back to "the washington post" abc polo dimensioned, they did among registered voters put harris up against trump. according to this she was at 49% and trump was, let me get it

right, 49 -- harris 49 slightly better than biden's 46. she was 49 and trump was 47 according to this poll. not battleground states, registered voters. >> kayleigh: that's interesting. perhaps they are pulling her to prove the message that they are taking to senators. here is why kamala is in the path ahead. >> tammy: every story "the new york times" has run with anonymous sources has benefited kamala harris. you have to wonder, someone is delivering this to "the new york times." "new york times" has made their opinion clear. they want biden gone. you have to wonder, where is it coming from. kamala harris is not at high tea pretending and watching some reality tv. she's involved. she is favored by barack obama. she's always -- he has always liked her. that could be what's happening internally. he remains chaotic. at the same time i don't think this is going to result well with the american people.

they voted for biden. there's too much money at stake. this could be a fiduciary thing they need to do because there's hundreds of millions of dollars at stake but i don't think ultimately in the end that this is going to work and the american people are going to say oh, thank god. she has been involved in this catastrophe and i you see it's like a switch out. that's not how democracy works, is it? >> kayleigh: "the new york times" say the survey of kamala at the top the ticket vis-a-vis trump is being conducted this week, commissioned by the biden campaigns analytics team and is believed to be the first time since the debate they missed biden's aides have sought to measure how the vice president would fear against trump. this also comes as yesterday kate bedingfield who is the former communications director divided, she knows him well. she knows the biden team well. she said this team is the best in the business when it comes to data and analytics and maybe it's time they look earnestly at what the data's saying. maybe they listen to kate bedingfield yesterday.

>> emily: finally, wasn't it joe biden who said he doesn't believe any of the poles he s sees. it illustrates to me more than just testing, harris for voters is testing her at this point. why have they not been testing her this entire time? we've been discussing his mental acuity lapses in the clear potential for him not to survive, i mean that figuratively speaking, not to survive his candidacy, or running. how is it just now they are saying let's see about the vice president. i'm sorry. we've been asking that for months. her audition has been the past four years also and she has abysmally failed. gavin newsom shares a donor pool with, harris. they grew up in the same political scene and enjoy the same five strong families that have supported them to begin with. they've never crossed paths publicly in an animus fashion. they are supporting each other and doing the dance.

you take attorney general. i'll take governor. you take senator. i'll take this. it remains to be seen, not only are they bundled geographically but are they stronger together or are they going to take gavin newsom, let's give you attorney general. secretary of state. this will be your presidency and the next four years. it's frightening but it's a calculus, as you pointed out. >> kayleigh: we are waiting on hakeem jeffries, house minority leader, he was set to take the microphone about a minute and half ago. will bring him to you when we get him but hakeem jeffries, interesting player and all of this. hakeem jeffries has had i support biden, very topline, not answered many follow-ups. hearing his members. cbs has multiple sources reporting to them that hakeem jeffries plans to take his concerns to president biden in the oval office. michele, no scheduled meeting as of now. we don't know when this will take place. everyone will be watching every word hakeem jeffries has because he is just going out having heard from his members again

expressing trepidation. >> michele: all of this gavin newsom, harris conversation aside. emily and i are the californians here. all of that aside joe biden means the candidate. you heard joe manchin in the very first part of the segment saying "i think he'll make the right decision. i'm concerned about his health and well-being. i think he'll make the right decision." that's the word i keep hearing, the right decision. so not just a decision but the right decision. what is the right decision they are all expecting them to make? not just for joe biden but for the country. you would hope the right decision is the one that serves the united states of america and its citizens the best. i think you cannot unring the bell that was her the night of the debate. no matter how many nice appearances biden puts together, that tape is there. it exists, just like so much kamala harris tape exists.

i just think this is, it's just such a cluster for the democratic party and the biden white house on the campaign. at this moment, he remains the candidate. with nato still going on, everyone's going to hold their fire i think until all of these world leaders go back home. >> kayleigh: bill, we know "the new york times" editorial board has a very clear position. they've made it clear. they want him to step aside. this is michael schmidt at "the new york times." some longtime advisors are now convinced biden has to drop out. they are working on how to convince him to do it and the obstacles they know they face are convincing him he cannot win as he is still convinced he has better chances than harris to beat trump. it brings to mind the reporting earlier in the week from a senior white house advisor saying that they question. >> bill: "he needs to drop out," according to a campaign

official, maybe they're talking to the same person i don't know. he continues "he will never recover from this. no one thinks he has a path." according to a second person. a third person close to the reelection campaign said the present situation is unsustainable. also said they didn't see how the campaign could win. these are all people on the inside apparently. i don't know who they are. i do know what their position was before. i don't know if biden gets out who they would support. i think what's intriguing is so far among the democratic elites, it's really been the obama team that's been out there publicly. david axelrod, as of yesterday. we all watched the debate. i was watching it on cnn. when they came out to the table, they went right to john king. john king struck the match and then went to than jones and

van jones said joe biden is a good man but this is over for him. what if they had come out of that debate and gone to someone else at the table. and said you know what i think joe biden was just average. give him a c. i have seen him do better but i thought he made a good point about a and about b. but trump, he lied 12 times in 21 minutes, let's go to the fact-checker. what if that had been the reaction? would we be sitting here having this conversation now? and would joe biden be up against the ropes? >> michele: the right decision, i think they are trying to position it as right so that joe will think he's making the right decision by stepping down. >> kayleigh: we are awaiting hakeem jeffries, minority leader. we will bring him to you when he takes to the microphone. more "outnumbered" next very might be passed down to you. get ancestrydna and see which traits were inherited, where they came from, and who you share them with. discover what makes you legendary with ancestrydna.

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>> mre breaking news, this hour "the new york times" reported that according to three anonymous sources familiar with the activities of the biden campaign, the biden campaign while publicly expressing a front of competence, in fact a memo was just sent out by jen o'malley dillon saying we believe there is a path ahead. despite the outward confidence, despite as we speak at this moment on capitol hill, she's there along with other members of the campaign telling senators there is a path ahead, despite all of that three sources saying they are quietly pulling a head-to-head matchup between kamala harris and donald trump. what that means, we will find out in time. my team tells us we have hakeem jeffries at the microphone. let's listen. >> right there.

[indistinct] >> are you worried that biden is a liability? >> no. [indistinct question] >> house democrats will win back control of the house of representatives on november 5th and vacate the extreme maga republican majority as long as we are able to clearly communicate our agenda of putting people over politics, lowering costs, growing the middle class, defending fundamental freedoms and democracy and contrast that with the extreme maga republican agenda which will destroy working families and the middle-class way of life as we know it. thanks.

>> do you believe biden has made a final decision? >> as i indicated, house democrats are engaged in conversations with house democrats. at this moment in time. those conversations have been candid, clear-eyed, and comprehensive. that's important for us to do. as a house democratic caucus family. and as long as those conversations are ongoing, i'm going to respect the sanctity of those conversations until we conclude that process. >> thank you very much, leader jeffries. i want to ask about appropriations for last night the speaker's job was threatened. it was your caucus that bailed him out. that was very important to him maintaining his job. in that context, what are your priorities for the appropriations process that's underway and do you plan to use your leverage over the speaker to get some of your priorities

through? if not, why not? >> in connection with the appropriations process we've had no discussion about a theoretical or hypothetical motion to vacate. we take every issue and evaluate it in a serious, substantive, and sober fashion. that's before the congress and that's what we will continue to do. with respect to the current appropriations process, we have been very clear that in may of last year house democrats, senate democrats, house republicans, and senate republicans in partnership with president biden reach an agreement connected to the bipartisan fiscal responsibility act. that agreement in this upcoming fiscal year calls for a topline spending number of 1681. the republicans in the house right now are marking up an appropriations bill at 16 oh

six. 1606. they are cutting $75 billion from their own agreement reached with everyone else under the capitol dome and president joe biden along with vice president kamala harris. that $75 billion cut will adversely impact the health, the safety, and the economic well-being of the american people, hurt children, hurt seniors, hurt veterans and hurt many others. it's unacceptable, not sustainable. we are not going to accept a dime less than the 1681 number that we all agreed upon. the behavior of the extreme maga republican right now and by the way, they are unable to pass their own reckless appropriations bills, which should tell you everything you need to know. suggests to me that they are emerging though country to other

dangerous government shutdown at the end of september. >> talk about internal discussions ongoing. you have any timeline for that? >> 213 voting members of the house democratic caucus and three additional delegates. every single one of those voices is important. throughout this congress, we have tried to engage. when we've been confronting unprecedented event after unprecedented event after unprecedented event in the process of maximum communication in order to arrive at an enlightened path forward. that's what we've done every single day of the 118th congress and that's going to continue. in the back. >> reporter: thank you.

can you talk a little bit about what advice you have for lawmakers right now as they are weighing this moment for the party and for the president and they are deciding what to say and what should happen. i imagine many of them we hear are hearing from their constituents. what should they tell their constituents? what advice do you have for them as they weigh their own personal decisions on what they believe is the best. >> it's important for us to continue to engage with each other here in the united states house of representatives but even more important, for our members as they have been doing to engage with their constituents back home. on any issue. this is representative democracy, and the house is the institution that the framers designed to be the closest to the american people to reflect the hopes, dreams, aspirations,

fears, concerns, anxieties. in the words of the framers "the passions" of the american people. that requires intimate engagement with the people back home that we are privileged to represent. on any matter. certainly on matters of consequence. >> thank you, leader. >> reporter: if president biden fails to deliver intimate press conference. >> that's a speculative que question. as i indicated we are involved in internal process that that we take seriously. until that process is concluded, i'm not really in a position to comment on external events. >> reporter: which is at stake? >> reporter: with respect to -- >> i'm sorry, first row. >> reporter: frontline members of the caucus, the ones who called on the president to withdraw, did they confer with you and try to get your blessing, notify you in advance

questioning >> as you can imagine there's been a lot of conversations have taken place over the last several weeks. those conversations are private until frontline members or other members of the caucus decided to become public. >> reporter: after the last two weeks, there was at least one public poll suggested biden and trump are still relatively neck and neck. is there a case you made or you can make for staying the course with biden as the nominee and on top of that, if you don't follow what the concerns are some of these members coming out and speaking and don't call on biden to resign and he loses, you don't get the house, you don't become speaker, why should the members trust your political judgment? >> we are going to work as hard as we can to win back control of the united states house of representatives in november. and i think at the end of any election cycle, people are going to evaluate what the performance

of the house democratic leaders has been in achieving the objective. that involves candidate recruitment. that involves how much resources the dccc is raising relative to our counterparts on the extreme maga republican side of the aisle and it also involves what happens in any high-profile special election. >> kayleigh: you have been listening to house minority leader hakeem jeffries who has had, per reporting from cbs, who will be carrying the concern of his members, via anonymous sourcing, not that he has had it but sources have, he will be carrying the concern of its members to president biden. just there he was pressed on biden's path forward, where they are going to go. he has talked about having candid conversations with his members, clear-eyed conversations, comprehensive conversations but leaving some wiggle room saying he's looking for "an enlightened path forward." interesting wording.

my take away was he asked, he reiterated that biden can do this but he left some room. he leaves a wedge "enlightened path forward." >> bill: i don't know if it was a smart idea the other day but he went in the back door, left the back door. no reporters were able to capture him on camera. smart i guess on his part. let's go back to this memo the biden team is distributing. i want to continue a little bit. i think it's very important. we mentioned about wisconsin, pennsylvania, michigan being the clearest pathway to victory. they are not dismissing the sun belt states that some states like georgia and arizona, we and our own polling have and trump at 50% plus for two or three months and anytime you are at 50% in head-to-head matchups, you know you're doing pretty well. "there is no indication that anyone else would outperform the president versus donald trump close what is with the memo was saying. hypothetical polling of

alternative nominees will always be unreliable and surveys do not take into account the negative media environment any democratic nominee would counter. the only democratic counter for whom this is already baked in his president biden. that's the quote, that's the argument they are making to members of congress and perhaps those on the outside looking in who should not believe this campaign is viable. >> kayleigh: the counter to that is america watched president biden for 90 minutes. you can make kamala into something. you can make any of these other candidates into something the other media but there is no coming back and thus the media doesn't heal turn for president biden. it's a counter someone next to the biden campaign. interestingly on the point of victory, tammy, i heard hakeem jeffries say they are house democrats will take control of the house. it reminded me of something i'd seen this morning from an investigative journalist who claims she has internal polls in swing districts, swing districts that show biden down double

digits in places that he won previously. there is a lot. the biden super pac was leaking polling showing that in fact they were worried about minnesota. they were worried about virginia. >> tammy: i do hesitate because i remember all the talk for 2022. there is an expectation with polls that there was meant to be a red wave and it didn't happen. all of this is unusual. since biden was elected, it's unusual. i don't know if we can respect or expect or kind of understand what people are saying to pollsters. the unknown factor here is people just not going to vote. the biden people not going to vote for trump. some will. but for those who just stay home, that's the impact lower down on the ballot and i think that is so dramatic and everyone is so depressed, confused with the chaos. that may be a likely dynamic

that people when you ask on the phone we're going to vote for, you answer if you're going to answer. you don't say "i'm staying home." you might not even subconsciously of knowledge that, that's the danger but it's still, i think as has been noted already, you can't take this for granted. everyone's got to presume this is a commutative framework. >> t>> kayleigh: you saw hakeem jeffries returned to the greatest hits, reaching in the hat and saying extreme speech with five republicans. you can almost see him saying this worked in '2022. it will work now. >> emily: it's been stale for years, the talking points. who represents you in congress. ask yourself, are they serving me, their constituents or serving each other? is the allegiance to each other or to the american constituent. to that point about them having no backup, that's their fault. it's their fault they have not groomed/shown us by the party doesn't have any leaders i can actually govern or actually earn the paychecks.

>> michele: i don't know that they have the value system and the structure of committed values to sell to the american people so they work on personalities. by the way, who gets to choose the president and the nominee? right now biden has the delegates, right? he earned those delegates. like it or not, he earned those delegates. is it just the dnc and house of representatives and senate they get to say we don't want you? step down. we will figure out -- just like they did with bernie sanders, getting him out of the way for hillary in 2016. is this another way for someone else to take control of who the candidate is. >> kayleigh: lots of questions. the reporter who asked about appropriations, good for him. still asking about the work of the american people.one, more "outnumbered" in just a moment. nutrients for immune health. and ensure complete with 30 grams of protein. (♪) ♪ i wanna hold you forever ♪

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this comes as campaign officials, not to people familiar with the campaign, campaign officials are anonymously speaking to nbc according to three people they say biden's chances of winning are 0. let me quote one of them directly, he needs to drop out a campaign official he will never occur and recover this. another no one involved in the effort thinks he is a path, this is brutal. these are people on the campaign. all of this as the campaign sits down to plead their case to senators. some on the campaign thinks there is a path forward and they are making that case on capitol hill as we wait for the 6:30 p.m. eastern time nato press conference dubbed as the big boy press conference by the white house. all eyes on joe biden will he stay or will he go? we will learn more later but for now "america reports." >> i am hoping this meeting will