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>> we are getting stunning new video from the moments before the trump assassination attempt. this cell phone video appears to show the trump gunman, thomas crooks scoping out the scare before trump's rally. this was nearly one hour before he opened fire. we're learning more about how crooks was able to get a weapon into the rally. we'll bring a live report with the latest from the investigation. we begin with a story developing right now breaking moment by moment. b bombshell reporting claims president biden may drop out of the presidential race, possible as soon as this weekend. this is "outnumbered," i'm kayleigh mcenany here with emily compagno and harris faulkner. also here, former state spokesperson president obama, marie harf and guy benson.
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we have breaking news. now, president biden's campaign effectively on hold. he's isolated in rohoboth beach, delaware. he has covid. look at him walking gingerly down the same stairs he struggled to walk up moments before. he went one step at a time and pausing for breaks. biden's covid diagnosis may not be the biggest concern. calls for him to exit the race are back and growing louder. nancy pelosi reportedly told biden he cannot beat trump and his persistence could destroy the party winning the house. and chuck schumer, and house minority leader hakeem jeffries said the same to him.
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it appears the pressure is mounting. axios reporting top democrats believe biden will exit the race possible as soon as this weekend and widely known president biden likes to start his day watching msnbc morning joe. he is really close with joe scarborough. here is what biden likely watched as he was having his morning coffee. >> it is incumbent on people that are around joe biden to step up at this point and help the president. and help the man they love. and do the right thing. this is not going to end well if it continues to drag out. the anger i hear are the people keeping him in a bubble. >> or of their own interest. >> or who may have their own
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interests, some financial, in keeping him in the race. that is the real anger and let me tell you, that is not just anger from inside congress. that is anger from inside the political, his own political camp. it is widespread. it is widespread. joe biden deserves better. he deserves better than he's getting from those closest to him. >> kayleigh: wow, that is the president's close friend. guy, we're getting breadcrumbs of reporting here and there. i asked our team to scroll what we have learned to show illustrate this is coordinated campaign. axios describes it as relentless and coordinated. saturday schumer told biden to drop out.
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wednesday polls show 70% want him out. schiff calls on biden to drop out. hakeem jeffries reporting comes out and queen of the democratic party, nancy pelosi, telling biden the party is in peril. this is coordinated. >> guy: full-court press and it is on. we have not heard from barack obama. the question, will this penetrate joe biden's thinking. the covid diagnosis, we wish him the best with that. this diagnosis might be used as an excuse to move this thing. it could be part of why they hunker down and shuffle him out of this race potentially sometime soon. it could give the biden campaign opportunity to say, this is why his voice was faltering, he's
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been tired, we know why. it is a mild case, we are just resting, that would buy them more time. they have a real difficult situation on their hands, if he continues to not want to go. reporting we are seeing, axios are it is, it is what senior leaders believe they can do, not insight into what joe biden is thinking or wants to do. that is the key. i saw biden campaign spokesman put out a statement, he is the nominee, meaning joe biden. it is a bumpy ride for a while and highly intriguing. >> kayleigh: that is a key point. marie, we don't know what the president is thinking. "new york times" is saying he's talking about it. he's open to the discussion. campaign denying all of this. then there is this axios line from a close friend, story that guy was referencing, biden's choice is to be history's hero
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or be sure of the fact there will never be a biden presidential library, one of the president's close friends told axios, i pray he's doing the right thing, he's headed that way. marie, does he stay or does he go? >> marie: we are witnessing last few days of biden's reelection campaign. once nancy pelosi tells you it is probably the end, that is good assign that is where we are heading. polls are not perfect, but numbers don't lie. blue labs, new poll shows 15,000 voters, four democrats pull five points ahead, woos moore, kelly, gretchen whitmer and kamala harris is three points ahead of him. democrats do better by 9-12 points in a close election those are good enough margins democrats would win. i do think we paused on this
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conversation earlier in the week after the tragic and awful assassination attempt and democrats are coming together this week looking at the numbers and not having any confidence there is a way to turn this campaign around. there are a lot of days left between now and november. no plan and no ability that many of us can see that would allow joe biden to turn this campaign around. i think we're getting close. >> kayleigh: i think we are, too. unde underlining this, president cited new reason he might step aside. roll the tape. >> is there anything that you would look to personally, not anybody else, not other pundits, not even family member upons, you would look to and say if i see that, i will reevaluate? >> president biden: if i have a medical condition emerge, if doctors said, you have this problem, that problem. >> kayleigh: i will do dos,
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harris, he says this, a doctor put out a note, he has covid. president presented with upper respiratory system and general malaise, a medical term, yes, but there is political term, malaise of the carter years. >> harris: i don't want to make too much out of this. he's been sick for weeks and he's been tested for covid more than once, he told the american public that. he had tested negative. now he tested positive, whatever he had going on during the debate, he was sick. it hits your immune system, now he's got covid. this may turn out to be something he gets over rather quickly and we pray for that and want a speedy recovery from our commander-in-chief. same time, why can't the
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democratic party do what they said republicans should do, there was criticism, they will jump back in and they were making comparison between assassination attempt and covid on msnbc last night. all the things. why can't they wait until he gets better to put the press on him? you know why? he's been defiant. now that he's in the basement recovering from covid in delir wa, they think they can press him. donald trump, former president, the nation's 45th, told me hours before the chaos, biden likes control because of the delicate situation. >> kayleigh: he is. breaking news here, big one. and marie harf prestaged thissic braing news for us. obama, according to "washington post," president obama is telling allies that joe biden needs to step aside.
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marie, back to you for a moment and then to emily. marie, the exact language is ser seriously consider his viability. you said we're waiting to hear from obama, we are hearing from him through pages of "washington post." ma >> marie: i got chills when you read that. i worked for president obama. he is very cautious. he has stood by joe biden, but started to hear from people that believe there is no path for president biden to win. barack obama is one of the elders of our party, if he's weighing in on shoes of schumer and nancy pelosi and hakeem jeffries, it feels to me like we are very close to knowing that joe biden will no longer be the nominee. i don't know when that will happen. he has covid and will be home for a few days. if barack obama is weighing in, b
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brilliant political mind, who is cautious, that feels like a sea change. >> kayleigh: this is michael ch s s sherrer. obama thinks the president needs to serious ly consider viabilit of his campaign. multiple people briefed on his thinking. this does not show up by accident, he green lighted his aides to share with the "washington post." >> which is a crucial sea change. marie, when you were talking about it, in my head, i was like, he does not need to come out and say it, he did it nonverbally when he guided the president off the stage. he showed the world his frailty. that made me feel like i'm a
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ancient but end of the day we see materialization of the abrigzs. as former speaker said, nancy pelosi controls everyone. schiff said that means nancy pelosi told him to do so. nancy pelosi himself speaking face-to-face with biden and saying it time to give him a rest. unseen hands, writing letter for george clooney, those forces are saying, i'm putting my name directly out there, that represents a current change andy woo are seeing biden against the world. t-shirts that say oakland against everybody. it is biden versus everybody in his party and we'll see what is going on mentally or that stubborn character, whether that will overcome reason as these members of the party, thought
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leaders of democratic party make a influence on the current president. >> kayleigh: stubborn is the key word. guy, it is widely known that biden bristled when he was passed over by obama and foregone as democratic nominee and obama sided with hillary clinton. obama has tread carefully, he knows if he goes out full court press, biden could retract into a corner. this comes out publicly and means maybe biden is being d defiant and obama thinks this is only choice he is left with. >> guy: see if it works. dim of the pressure is deafening and everyone is lining up privately and publicly to push him out of the race. it is possible he will final lly realize writing is on the wall and do what they want him to do.
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it is possible he and a small group of people surrendering him say we had a primary and won it overwhelmingly, i'm the incumbent, all these people with jawbone, i can do this. i'm not going anywhere. biden has to do nothing to become the nominee, he can sit in the basement and do nothing and become the nominee because of inertia here. if he's committed, this will not matter. question is timing. i am not foreclosing the chance biden comes out with a new statement saying i'm not anying anywhere. if he were to do that, then what? what do they do next? >> kayleigh: harris, there is reporting delegates are being called by biden's team saying, are you still with us. >> harris: of course they are, president trump told me on saturday, biden controls the situation because of delegates,
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much the same for trump. he was explaining. it has to be his decision, which is where nancy pelosi 10 days ago began the conversation, we want it to be up to him should he decide but then everyone kept saying, if he does, we're ready to talk about his amazing decades of experience and so on and so forth and support this decision to leave. which was not gentle, you don't have to go home, but you have to leave. now they are saying, don't lose sight of the timing. this is one of the biggest moments for republicans and republican leadership at reason rnc convention tonight with donald trump we have seen in a long time if not the biggest. why? there was an attempt on his live five days ago. he put his fist in the air and said fight, fight, fight and the
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fight is on. they will close this convention after he speaks of unitity, what a political balloon to burst for democrats if they are not unified around idea of biden. with obama, big-throated push right now, we could see this come to head by today or tomorrow or as you and guy were talking about, kayleigh, we could see it get worse if biden fights back. it is over. the fat lady is singing and dancing, it is a matter of time. how do you get him to graciously exit the race. if he can't run and can't testify in classified documents case per robert hur, how will he lead this country up until january 20. does he sit down? does that put kamala harris in the seat.
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this, you think it is simple with what obamas, he does not control delegates or kamala harris. by the way, how is the president going to continue doing his job from the basement if he can't run a campaign? this could make it more complicated. donald trump is high stakes for him tonight and we know he is ready, he was ready on is the and more ready now, he has the idea of unity and different reason to reach out to people. they need leadership and we're in this together, a an attack on all of us. big moment, obama is trying to grab one for democrats. >> kayleigh: we have come a long way from a tweet from former president barack obama saying he supported joe biden in the wake of the debate to silence and "washington post" reporting he's shared with aids president biden should consider viability of his
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>> emily: new video of trump shooter thomas crooks scoping out the area before last saturday's rally. that is him you see in the circle on the screen there. this video was taken one hour before he climbed up that slopped roof and opened fire. tragically killing one. there are growing questions about law enforcement ashes wearness of the gunman's presence and how long they knew about him before trump took the stage. here is the latest on the investigation. >> lawmakers say there were several missed opportunities to stop the gunman, thomas crooks.
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the most glaring security failure, former president donald trump was still allowed to take the stage, even after crooks was identified as a suspicious person and a threat. this video shows crooks at the rally site scoping out the area. the gunman had been identified because of odd behavior and this is just one of a few photos captured and shared. crooks would fire shots from a nearby warehouse roof outside the secret service secure area. this is north of the rally stage. calling on secret service director to resign or be fired and butler township commissioner is defending local police and speaking out in anger toward the secret service. >> two or three days after the
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events unfolded in butler, i kept seeing narrative it is local police. i said that is unacceptable, but leer township police department is honorable and works hard. our detail was planned for traffic detail only. no security, no protection detail ever. we have seven officers deployed, one-third of our total force to control traffic. >> today a public viewing for retired volunteer firefighter cory comperatore is scheduled. comperatore was killed after he shoulded his wife and daughter from the gunfire. his family releasing a statement to thank for support and prayers and writing he loved and cared for us, his family. there is tight security for
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today's viewing. private services are scheduled for tomorrow. emily. >> emily: we have video of a group of republican senators confronting s confronting secret service director kimberly cheatle at the rnc last night. the senators demanded kimberly cheatle explain the breakdown and why secret service would have ashesllowed president trump to take the stage. watch. >> i have called for your resignation -- answering our questions right now. >> an explanation, why would anyone allow the president to go on stage when you know you have a potential threat, you have snipers -- >> i don't think this is --
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[indiscernible] >> you hung up on me. [indiscernible] -- i would not want to take away -- >> i hope you enjoy -- >> no, no, no, we're going with you. >> an assassination attempt -- say it is an assassination attempt. [indiscernible] -- >> you answer to us. >> emily: that is wild video. last hour, harris had a chance to speak with senator blackburn, who we saw on the video. she explained what kimberly cheatle should have done instead of walking away. listen. >> what she should have done is step aside with us and provide some answers to questions that
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we had. who made that decision? why did they make that decision? where was the lapse in protocol? her priority was not answers, her priority was what she termed her partners and having a nice evening. >> emily: senator barrasso said she hung on them. >> harris: more than hung up on them, she said she was not in charge of the call and it got hung up. that is what she told marsha blackburn. she was seen in heels chasing after the people who were with kimberly cheatle trying to get them to slow down, she realized how long she had beenats the venue and it was lie by omission, they did not mention we were in the building and could have talked in person. the whole thing is a game and i don't understand how the united
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states secret service director is aallows to play it. they had seven minutes, maybe longer, to not put the president on the stage. they needed him in a secure area or vehicle and made sure she was away from the threat. think about the americans who had gone to the venue, what about the other people? you should have been moving them out of the way, too. once shots rang out, it was not holding solidar ity with the president, they were pinned in to their position. foxes digital talked to an act vist who has been to 20 rallies who said this was the least secure venue he's been through. he sat three rows behind trump near murdered firefighter cory comperatore. they were pinned in. it was difficult, cory had to shield his family.
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more detail we find outs, we realize kimberly cheatle, senator blackburn wants her fired. they better get the story and fix what is broken in the secret service. >> emily: that question, why was president trump allowed to go on stage. >> kayleigh: big question and one i hope we get answers to. will we get answers? the information flow here is astounding, elena train said donald trump got a briefing from secret service on tuesday. he was given bits and pieces of information. now look, i know you are gathering information. this man had an assassination attempt on his life, a bullet flew past his ear and he's only receiving bits and pieces of information and congress receiving virtually no information and we have zilch, and you pledge you are engaged
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in transparency? kimberly cheatle needs to step down. senator barrasso, a measured senator, said this, resignation or full explanation right now. that is what every member of the american public should be echoing. >> emily: and guy, information hoa hoarding is assign of toxicity, dysfunction or refusal to release information that reflects negatively on this. >> guy: this is worse than information hoarding, there is lying. kimberly cheatle tried to blame locals, we heard the clip from the gentleman representing the locals. he said that was not true, we were in charge of traffic. the slopped roof lie was so -- that does not make sense, there
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are people on slopped roofs all the time, including on the footage we have seen. not like they are hoarding information, they have led with actual misinformation from the top of the agency and people are infuriated with this director, i can't imagine how she could survive this, she shouldn't. we need to know everything and what we heard from harris is right. seems like every passing hour, when we learn something new, it makes the story worse. this should have been stopped multiple junctures and never was and it is enraging to people independent of political view, obviously. >> emily: and marie harf, we have verifiable threats from iran against the former president's life and in addition to officials within his
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administration. what does this utter failure signal to foreign powers looking at this with potentially glee? >> marie: we know threats are getting worse, we know, we heard from the fbi director, more threats against american leaders and american people than in a long time. there are very few things this whole panel ever agrees on, this is one of them. the fact we do not have answers yet. secret service, this is most egregious and awful in a long line of mistakes by the secret service over many years. doing things overseas that were dangerous and put protectees at risk and behaving in ways that put people at risk. there are reports the secret service director will come to report on monday. she needs to and i agree with guy and others on this panel, i do not see how she survives this, we need answers, all of
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diminished. the two have not spoken since the debate, that is a chiel you put on an enemy and you come out and say, you have to go. to the panel right now to get reaction on the gap of time, what happened during that time and he's diminished and hurt. emily, he's got covid. >> emily: i don't mean to diminish gravity of this. fr fre fren-emies and the slight president biden felt being pass over by obama for hillary cli clinton. and would this be biden's moment to push back and say, i don't care what you say, barack obama, this is my presidency and i end it on my dime on my time. we are hearing reports of
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incredible pressure that anyone would give into, let alone someone under clearly a lot of physical frailty and pressure behind the scenes. is he weakened in that regard, you know what, i give up or say, not now. i spent 50 years in service and i end on my terms. >> harris: could be both, it could be obama pushing and biden wants to stay. let's go to white house correspondent peter doocy. peter. >> peter: biden campaign officials insist despite p prominent democrats coming out and going public with private conversations saying it is time for president biden to rethink has presidency, the biden administration says there is no plan b, they are not planning on
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biden not being top of the t ticket. it is possible campaign officials don't know exactly what is going on through his mind as he sits in isolation with covid at his beach house. everything we've been hearing is that president biden has been shrinking his circle. everybody around him has been telling him things he does not want to hear since the debate and the circle is getting smaller and smaller and there have been reports recently as today people close had him are telling him, it is time. there are reports he's been asking advisors if kamala harris can beat trump. the official posture is he is not going anywhere. the whole climate has changed with obama coming out.
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who is left? which democrat the general electorate cares about their opinion is left to come forward? barack obama, nancy pelosi and joe biden are the big three democrats. >> harris: i'm glad -- >> peter: now joe biden is isolated in opinion he should continue until november. >> harris: glad you did not mention the other two, not george clooney and not julia roberts. why did we care what george clooney thought anyway. but the people you mentioned count, former house speaker knows who is next and that would be republican house speaker should anything happen with the president. go to guy benson for his thoughts. thank you. >> guy: well, harris, it is now all out there, i don't know if they have anything left to go to
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in terms of pressure. so this is a maximum pressure political situation for joe biden. i will point out to peter lerner's point, this was a statement from tj ducklow, a spokesman for the campaign said joe biden is his party nominee, president of the united states, running for reelection, baseless conjecture is not a scoop, he went on to say, let's focus. those denials matter until they don't. that can change on a dime. i worn, marie made the point about polling, some polls show kamala harris out performing biden and others show them the same. there are a slew of polls that show her performing worse. i wonder if that will factor in? >> harris: it will, they will do wheeling and dealing. one name coming from democratic
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>> v.p. harris set to make remarks live in carolina, new report says former president obama is telling allies biden may need to gets out of the race. and what went down in attempted assassination attempt of donald trump. we will analyze new findings and former president trump's legal analyst alina habba will join us. america reports top of the hour. >> harris: tonight is the night and you can probably hear them warming up behind me for ending of the rnc convention. before that happens, president donald j trump will accept the republican nomination and it will be on the stage behind me.
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they lit up the balloons, it is spectacular sight. trumps he's rewritten his a acceptance speech following his assassination attempt five days ago. we heard from ohio senator j.d. vance last night, he talked about appreciation for the former president and deep rooted history in rural kentucky. vance told how he wanted to be buried there with his family. >> in that cemetery, there are people born around the time of civil war. if, as i hope, my wife and i are laid to rest there and our kids follow us, there will be seven generations in that smoul mountain cemetery plot, seven generations of people who fought for this country, built this country and made things in th country and would fight to protect this country if asked
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to. that is not just an idea, my friends, not a principles even though idea and principles are great, that is our homeland. >> harris: you heard those words clearly. msnbc interpreted those words for us. they called them white supremacy. >> do you think there were some sort of easter eggs of white nationalism in this speech? >> i understand sharing burial plot, it reveals someone who believes history the family should inherit and history should be determinative in the story much the vance family is history of eastern kentucky vances. in america, does not have to be the white male lineage reveals about someone who believes in
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supremacy of whiteness and masculinity. it is revealing about what he thinks matters and who america is and that america is a place for people with a shared west everyone background. >> harris: she owes j.d. vance's wife an aapology for what she said, was that a race hit against his wife, of indian heritage? she used entire dictionary of words she happens to know. >> kayleigh: his wife came across relatable, her speech was know excellent. this was meant to pitch to demographic of voters, pennsylvania, wisconsin, michigan. the factory worker, the union worker, anyone in life who has had a struggle economically, that was the pitch and that was
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the pitch made and you'll see j.d. vance parked in pennsylvania for a very, very long time until november. >> harris: you know, emily, some of the feedback from the legacy and liberal networks, they did not think he performed dynamically enough last night. they wanted the red meat to spread, they thought he dialed it back to try to appeal to others. what if that is who he is? are they leaving room for that? that he might appeal to others? >> emily: i don't think they are, harris, that underscores exactly who j.d. vance and his wife and family are, which is authentic, he is in the theatrical and dramatic, he is who he is and shows up exactly how he and his family have shown up throughout his service. that is why he and his policies resonate with americans.
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he's not there with slicked back hair and as showmanship reflective of what the democratic party is used to, we see someone who is real. mark shallenberger >> harris: marie, we have not heard from you on what is upon haing, i want to couple what is going on with division in your party, the push from obama to get out of the way and vice presidential pick that legacy media seemed to be just taken by taking down today, in particular. >> marie: i think they are related. we have really good reporting from tim albert and others that trump campaign has set itself up almost entirely to go after joe biden. they thought he was going to be the nominee and their messaging, strength versus weakness, they are focused on biden. if it is someone different, they will have to change course.
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tonight, will donald trump follow through with the unity message he promised, we will see. we'll watch together. also, whether there is messaging about any other demp accurates or democratic ideas in general and not focused on joe biden. i don't think j.d. vance pands the map for trump. >> harris: guy benson. >> guy: the speech is scheduled for an hour and a half, get comfortable, he's got a lot to say and i think the country wants to hear from him. we are talking about other issues politically that are rel be vant, this man was shot, it is a wild time to be following this election. >> harris: it is interesting, 90 minutes would be a stump speech for him. that is not even extra long. okay, we're coming right back.
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♪ ♪ >> it's been a big hour with "the washington post" reporting that biden is being told, according to this report and come obama is telling his allies corey comperatore should consider his ally as a candidate. a source familiar with obama speaking has told fox news that obama sees his role as a sounding board and counselor for president biden as long done for each other for many years. the source goes on to say to say obama believes joe biden has been an outstanding president and is protective of him both personally and of the biden administration strong and historic accomplishments. that source with that information to fox news. what year is the biggest, most important seven words of "the washington post" story.
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here it is. a spokesperson for obama declined to comment. marie harf, a spokesperson for obama declined to comment. if this was not true, they would have been on the record. >> marie: that is not a denial, kayleigh. that is not a denial. he could have, schumer's people could have pelosi's people could have but it feels like the moment the wheels are turning quickly. the next few days going into the weekend might think we will have a lot of news coming out about what is happening. joe biden should have the space and grace to do this in his own way. we should give him back, but it will be interesting to see how this plays out appearance before that is the big story this hour. a big night as former president takes the staged behind me while huge movement in the democratic party. barack obama telling allies that biden should consider his viability. we will bring you tomorrow "outnumbered" but for now,

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