decision behind-the-scenes and in the convention. >> i know you've got a couple busy few hours ahead of you. we thank you. we will we will see you a bit later. let's get right to peter doocy as we approached the top of the new hour the news is breaking, peter, you are right there at the white house what you know so far? and what of you heard? >> well, we know president biden remains at his beach house at rehoboth beach, delaware. this is a big surprise if you listen to the things presented biden and his top aides have been telling us for several weeks. it was friday morning the campaign put jen o'malley dillon the campaign manager out on them msnbc for 20 minute injuries had to reassure democrats president biden wasn't it to win it. should all kinds of information

about how they do not think that voters were bailing on biden going to trump. so really they did not think it was going to be that bad. the last couple weeks for hard for them but the race was still winnable. every single time a white house official was asked about these reports president biden might be leaving the race they insisted it was not true. they were on social media clapping back at some of the reporters who were not reaching out to them for comment. the comment every single time was a denial. they were saying he is in the race he is staying in the race. he wrote that letter to democrats on capitol hill where he explained his justification for staying in the race. that is where they kept referring to put this so much talk over the last few weeks about what decision will present biden make? he already made up his mind he told us so now there is some reporting that at some point

this afternoon, it all changed. he phoned his senior aides to let them know his mind was changed. they put out this paper statements, this is something that typically you would expect to either see president biden do in person or at the very least record a video too post on social media. too post on youtube to explain exactly what was going on. we know he has not been feeling good the last couple of days sick with cove aid. it's possible he cannot do that right now. but he remains in delaware we do not know exactly when we will see him next. >> he said probably later this week w on maxims or of a public statement. i would've thought he waited until he got over covid. and then announce this in a public statement as opposed to putting it out on paper first. maybe he wanted to get the process going more quickly. of course, one of the things coming up now, peter is if joe biden cannot stand for

reelection, can he continue to be the president? or does he need to hand the reins off to kamala harris? there's a couple of ways a president can hand the reins over to the vice president one is to the 25th amendment. of course another is the demise of the president but the president were to resign the office then the rains fall to the vice president. but, it can he stay on as presit if people say you're not bit to run for reelection? >> he insists that he can and this is a president who cares a lot about his legacy. it seems extremely unlikely who spends a ton of time forever but the late stages of the pandemic one of the first meetings that he had with a group of people at the white house was with historians. we know he set it round town built with historians throughout his tenure.

he loves to hold up the lists were some group of historians ranked him toward the top of the pack on the best presidents e ever. he cares a lot about what scholars think about the things he has done in the things he is doing. it seems extremely unlikely that he would do anything to shorten his term. >> that is a lot. we'll see what were those callso from here. house speaker johnson has put out a statement in the wake of all of this. he is saying to that point, if joe biden is not fit to run for president, he is not fit to serve as president. he must resign the office immediately, november 5 cannot arrive soon enough. peter, and are going to stay with us throughout our coverage. i'm going to bring in dana perino on that. this is a valid concern and point. if there that many people with this in his own party e-cigs not fit to run for another term, how

is he fit to serve? >> that was my feeling on the night of the debate on june 27. this is not acceptable. wonder things to think about we haven't touched on this yet were just getting the news, we are digesting it countries are most vulnerable when there is a transition from one power to the next. when there's a change in administration put all the adversaries, all of your enemies look for weaknesses in those points. so, i think when biden and the last two weeks after the debate they pushed him to go out and do all this interviews and he kept falling. basically joe biden kept stepping on a rake every time he went to do an interview at just got worse. that is why think yes, of course he wanted to hold on part he did and then all of a sudden it became obvious you are not going to be the nominee. so they make that call they pull the plug. or in the right frame of mind to

be on camera in order to endorse kamala harris to make this decision. the other thing is, there is a big question on whether the president can actually do this job for the next six months. he said to put all this energy and attention into doing that. we will have to see if that can survive. there are two communication things i think a romp at one of the republican side of things and won the democratic side of things. the republicans are saying, and i understand why a, 14 million voters of the democratic side are not disenfranchised because they voted for biden in the primary. but a 70% of voters of the democratic side after the debate wanted a new nominee are they really that disenfranchised? i think in some way should be for what's happening joe biden is withdrawing from the race you have that. on the other side of things have democrats telling me, telling twitter et cetera all the focus will be on trump how he is too old to run for office people

just watched him get shot, get back up, organize and lead an amazing convention both lines of communication and argument for those two perspectives are not correct. >> i think you can make the case the country and democrats for that matter, they grew past the age concern and became a mental acuity and health concern with joe biden. so, to make the point about donald trump's age it does not work. i also want to get this into play to the point about where they are focusing their campaign remember before rnc speech the former president that is not going to mention joe by dividing he ultimately did in that 90 plus minutes. but now it appears they are already strategizing to focus their tax on kamala harris' is a new trump pack i'm sorry trump pack launching a new ad attack on kamala harris, listen.

>> she covered up joe's obvious mental decline. >> our present is in good shape good health tireless, vibrant i have no doubt about the strength of the work with them. but she knew joe could not do the job so she did it. >> it is amazing and john, just sort of a reading through some of the statements from democrats who were throwing their support behind kamala harris and endorsing her. when liz and warren put out her statement which ultimately did endorse kamala harris for president xi is a proven consumer's and protecting access to abortion. as a former prosecutor should compress a forceful case against allowing donald trump to regain the white house. many people but be pete harris was chosen by the voters to succeed joe biden if needed she can unite the party, take on donald trump and win in november. often there is reference to her

past, that's our time before she was vice president because it will be interesting to see how those who are endorsing kamala harris tell her office while in office is vice president. >> there is something else that maybe danny can help me here that i am wrestling with. in 1968 lyndon johnson dropped out of the race because he was convinced he was not going to win reelection it would be better to step aside. and let somebody else take the reins. the reason why joe biden's polling is a low and he is being told he cannot win reelection is because of his age and his perceived cognitive decline which then raises the question if it is the cognitive decline in the age drive in the polling in his decision to drop out, how can he stay on as president? republicans are ruling pushing for him to step down. which would hand the reins to

kamala if you would think if she would be the nominee of giver the leg up as the president if it's only for a few months or are they thinking she is sewed up trying to do the presidency she will not be able to run for office? or she does become president that will expose republicans they are her inherent weaknesses? straighten this out for me what is a political calculation behind republicans calling for him to step down so she becomes president? >> rescue me question request yes i'm asking you you know far more about this t than i do. >> one thing that happens, let's just play that out hypothhypotheticali don't usual. let's say it biden gets out she is sworn in as president of the united states what is her new title? it is madam president. so, there is that and in some ways she might want that and benefit from that. i remember when harriet miers myerswas a nominee for a littlet of time for the supreme court

she had not been a judge. everybody else had been a judge you take judge roberts, judge alito, judge thomas, everyone was calling her harriet. so people are calling her kamala harris if she becomes madam president know will be calling her for by a person for sure that include anybody who's going to be up against it from president trump. on the add sander just play it's clitoral, it's good i bet it was ready to go for jd mance. the trump packs are so organized they are so much better online and on these videos than the democrats, he look at the poll in michigan republicans are right now it running away with this. i'm hearing from some democrats that democrats are going to rally the going to start doing a ton of fundraising you'll see so much money and they are energized. but they're also super at fractured. >> but what is in it for republicans for biden to step

aside? >> was talk about this maybe is on the merits. we have so many problems in the country especially foreign policy related ones and scary situations in terms of our own national security.for those who have been in the room with him in a washing him they might think he actually cannot do the job. they do not believe he could answer the three young phone call do not take that just from me or any of the republican take that from his own staff who say to access two weeks ago was only dependable engagement 10:00 a.m. until 4:00 p.m. maybe it's not a political thing maybe it is actually more of a meritorious issue they think joe biden is not capable of doing the job right now. >> it makes you think about so many that are so close to the present including john kirby all throughout this he continued to say this is not the person after the debate this is not the person i see when it work with them behind closed doors. i know this happens. all of those invoices will be really interesting. meanwhile we have a statement

from vice president kamala harris she just put out i'm honored to have the president's endorsement my intention is to earn and win this nomination. i will do everything in my power to unite the democratic party and unite our nation to defeat donald trump. you go back to this to be a good place to enter your accomplishments, right? in the first thing republicans are going to pointer she was appointed czar of the board we know where things are at the border right now they're only worse since this president has taken office. and so her record will be put to the test, you better believe it she sounds very confident that this is the weight things will go moving forward. >> you said i'm going to earn and win this nomination. thethere is a sense among a lotf them democrats when obama bid joe biden a fonda do you know it's believe they're the ones go

help engineer this whole thing, they said they were confident the democrats will come out with a process a robust process that leads to a strong nominee. they did not say we think the tortorture should pass to kamala harris. i would think in the days ahead there are other people are going to say whoa, wait a minute not so fast. there is internal polling that show people like the governor of maryland my to do better against trump and she would. the governor of pennsylvania, the governor of michigan mark kelly center from arizona's name has been kicked around. this seems to be rushing toward a coordination of kamala harris. but i would be skeptical as to whether or not that's going to happen. >> i wonder what republicans are saying about all this right now it's been fox news contributor lisa boothe is joining our coverage. what are they saying and what would be the strategy against a

kamala harris nomination? >> slowed newsday's right guys. [laughter] what has been that way the past couple of weeks. >> talk about the democrat perspective for a while since the news broke. a kind of puts the trump campaign at a strange place as well. who they go after the coming weeks ahead of the democrat national convention? democrats do not have a nominee right now what are they do with the advertisement what are the do campaign statements? how do they move forward with this i been making the case for a while now and fox news that after the debate we all saw joe biden was not mentally equipped to do the job as he has even not recognize i've been saying for a while republicans seem to make it more about democrat policies as opposed to a specific candidate i was worried this would come. joe biden's biggest issue thus far has been the agent question democrats are going to solve that as they have forcing him out of the race. at best but the trump campaign in an interesting spot.

>> lisa comment when you think about it if kamala harris were to become the nominee you've got to go back in time to the primary process of 2020. she did not make it to the first contest in iowa she was out of the race so she does not have a long track record as say, hilary clinton would, to running very strongly and nomination process. there are probably people out there, i don't know who they might be may be their new >> other people who think she could be vulnerable in a nominating contest so let's not just say she's going to be the nominee. listening to the democratic party has a strong nominee. butts was wrote this thing open. there are other folks out there based on her election track record who could do better. >> it did not work out for hilary clinton either in the general election. what she did when her parties in primary. she lost it once to obama but in

2016. their people with a proven track record have not rather two terms as president brexit google kamala harris agreed with the democrats have been trying to re- bird her public image since she took over as vice president this has long been a challenge for kamala harris she owns a same policy that joe biden owns democrats have been underwater issues like inflation, immigration as well clearly she is the borders are so she onset as well. i also think even if you have some like gavin nuisance you get hit them on the failed policies of california as well. there's an argument to make about democrat policies feeling in general. there has been an argument by some that kamala harris he will have an easier time inheriting leg $96 billion of the biting campaign cash just because she's on the filings because she's part of the ticket. it'll be easier for her to assume that money part also if you are the democrats and you have just had this complete public disarray and also

americans are really skeptical about your ability to lead you just told lizzie's videos were cheap fixture but it is fine, you've lied to the american people and now admitting the truth complete chaos on the left when the world was in chaos as well do it to unify before kamala harris, clean it up and get behind your candidate sooner than later or do and to continue this mess of a process? i am looking to see where it is nancy pelosi come down this? what is chuck schumer does obama come around, what kind of conversations have they had previously about if it is kamala harris or not obvious of the washing a lot of us as it unfolds as it breaks it. >> please have your visit with us to know it's asking about this music can be a handful at least of governors tomorrow same time for joe to go. looking through some of the brand-new statement as they come in following the news perhaps tony evers was going to make the call tomorrow do not know that. he did issue a statement

acknowledging the president stepping down calling him an extraordinary president. if not the most well accomplished president of my lifetime. he goes on to say the decision remains clear, the choice of means clear this november calls donald trump a dictator. a lot of work ahead of us wisconsin democrats he said i will spend every moment of every day for the next 107 days working to defeat him but does not mention kamala harris. this will be the question as a read the statements how many are throwing their support behind the vice president? >> also what is her political operation what? i'm curious about that. i do think she knew of his condition was. she will deny it but i do think she knew. i do not think her political operation was up and running mentioned that reboot stories there are, there are so many of them over time think of the wall

street journal story the 45 sources questioning of biden's mental capacity and acuity the white house came down on them like a ton of bricks turns out all of it was true. but also think about on the record sources, the stories about kamala harris over the past three and half years. those were not very good also and they start to pick apart her record i do not think it will stand up very well there's not much from the senate that she did yes, she was a pretty good question at the hearings if you are looking for somebody had red meat questions i think that hearing with brett kavanaugh comes to mind. democrat you might like that. but other than that there's not a lot of accomplishments are topoint to pick up the thing wih the border just became a complete disaster to the point where it looked like she completely washed your hands of it did not want to have anything to do with it. the congressional black caucus came in support of eight kamala harris nominations and congressional black caucus papackjoints present by fully supporting kamala harris and as her party semi- sorry that's the

pact not the actual black caucus i'm sure those are the same thing. didn't you said you had thoughts about lbj and all this? >> a couple things to mention. i had this great fortune of doing a voice over for a documentary is a short one on vaccination about the 1968 campaign it was fascinating there were things i had forgotten on things i had met memory refreshed on. one of them was yes, lbj was having trouble looking like he was going to win but as i understand it he also suffered a heart attack and was very fearful and freaked out about his own health. lady bird johnson did not want him to run again. she did not even know up until he made the same as she was not sure contrast that with what we have at this point the stories we know about first lady jill biden really wanting her husband to remain as president. the family member the story from

camp david up to the photo shoot they have a brunch until president biden dad, you got to stay in for joe comic i disdain you are so great you answer all the questions. i certainly hope i live long enough to read the history of what actually was going down this campaign weekend at bernie's was going to look like i don't know. [laughter] work. forget it with not too distant future the democrats in the immediate were slamming these videos emerging of obama walking him off the stage and beyond and him freezing up when they were dancing around him, she could fake sick called him. that mediate was manipulating videos to make it appear his helpless dabbling. but i would imagine the white house press office might consider issuing a blanket apology to reporters who were doing the right thing. lucas tomlinson almost a year to the day when biden was in nantucket last year he shouts a question, mr. president you too

old to run for office? remember they came down on him they tried to make lucas tomlinson lugged that meanest biggest, he was right. if you are watching this channel you would not have been surprised it was not out of being mean, or angry it was being observant and pointing it out. i do think there is no oversight in the danger of keeping an american president in office when he's too frail to run for reelection i think it is on the merits at that point i've been thinking about her since you asked. >> in terms of the white house coming out with an apology, we can probably apply that title of the eagles come back about the reunion album project is not going to happen i honestly think when they leave the white house, think about that. think about that a quick chat program standbys got more news for us. >> just a couple of things here that are notable. you talked about congressional black caucus pack endorsing vice president harris that is a separate organization from the congressional black caucus it's

up at those very interesting after the debate we never had any statement from the congressional black caucus supporting president biden. it is a big group is a diverse group of different states, different points of view there. but if they were to come out it's one thing for the pack to do it's another thing for the cbc to do that. it was very interesting the democrat from nevada who was the chair of the congressional black caucus made it clear repeatedly he was always speaking on his own behalf when he spoke in favor of president biden. you are starting to see other members are to come out maxwell frost was a member of the cbc very young member from florida that he is in favor of vice president harris taking the reins here. the other thing you've always heard me say this it's about the math. this will be about the mouth when it comes onto california. there are 40, 40 house democratic seats in the golden state. that is nearly 9% of the entire house of representatives it

comprises 20% of the house of representatives where was vice president harris a senator from? california you are starting to see some of the californians if they all go behind vice president harris it is probably a done deal even if they have to sort some things out. then i think one of the other things that a figure at about doing this is remember the house and senate, they have been out of session for a week now there is no house and senate session the past week because of the republican convention there's going to be a big hearing tomorrow morning that is still scheduled with the director of the secret service at 10:00 a.m. tomorrow before the house homeland excuse me the oversight committee this can be oversight committee on monday, homeland security on tuesday at judiciary committee of the fbi director christopher raitt on wednesday so big hearings there. they kind of had to have something going forward so that everybody was not all over the map. i keep going back to the shooting of former president trump last week because it looked like some of these calls might have come last week and

maybe they wanted to get to the convention as well but they had to get people back in the building and then went to stave this off as members come back in monday morning. >> thank you so much chad we are getting this reaction from jd vance heat rights on extra bite has been the worst president in my lifetime in kamala harris has been right there with them every step of the way. over the last four she cosigned biden's open border and green scam policies that drove the cost of housing and groceries. she owns all of these failures and light for nearly four years about biden's mental capacity. sadly a nation with a present who could not do the job. president trump at a ready to save america, whoever's at the top of the democratic ticket, bring it on. >> makes you wonder what a possible vp debate would look like with vance and kamala harris. brit hume is joining us now. your thoughts? wes glad to do it this was a forecast i think in the history of this is written people will

look back the debate and say from that moment on this was an inevitable he had to get out. he stubbornly hung on for a wild but the pressure it was an enormous, the odds are against him. he is after all old and feeble showing even the people closest to them recognize that so here we are. >> vice presidential debate is set for september the 25th. we do not know who is going to be in on the democratic side at this point. what do you think about the idea the torch gets past or democrats rising up and sing low. obama said this in the statement along with his wife michelle, obama. we trusted democrat party will execute a robust process that will lead to a very strong nominee they did not say wheat back kamala harris. do you think in the days ahead we are going to see a lot of

demdemocrats saying wait a seco, you might want to pass the torch suit kamala harris there's a lot of other people out there who might do better. >> it is possible that will happen. a lot of democrats may think that. look at it this way, who is going to emerge and come out and say i do not want kamala harris to be the nominee i'm running against her. i'm running against the woman is a sitting vice p vice presidente united states does have buyer the force of the votes for the biden's letters to get her going to ted kennedy was so run he might do it. >> he might but is not. rfk is around and he is not a factor in this. rfk junior i mean. i think it is a good question who will step forward to challenge her? and of course if someone does as katie bar the door. on paper at least i think we can all agree the nomination now is in the hands of a cadre of thousands of delegates chosen to

support joe biden that is why they are in it they are biden delegates. he has endorsed or are they going to go against the candidate that he endorsed? maybe but it seems to me she really does have a leg up here. i think it off a lot of potential candidates will shy away because of that. >> you have to wonder what the phone calls and that meetings and the gatherings, you've got to wonder there have been a big questions leading up to this decision and this announcement from the president. who is in charge and who is in his inner circle? and those that are outside of it what are they going to do? you have got the president endorsing kamala harris very publicly in the statement. as we were just noting some of these governors were in doubt respond acquired not initially called for them to drop out of the race they are stepping into talk about biden's legacy

without endorsing kamala harris. the next few days, the next hours i should say you can only imagine the conversations that are being had. texas probably a lot of conversations among those who like to run whether it would be good for them to do so in the cycle. it appears that donald trump and their reandthe republican's havd of steam. i'm sure that so it looks these democrats. they've got a man i'm sorry a canitcan endorsed by the sitting president. that means to be one heartbeat away for the presidency. i think it is a tough call a close call as to whether you want to challenge her in a party that is so devoted to the rights of minorities when joe biden's or talk about his achievements heat lists the minority candidates he has nominated and always list her being on the

ticket with him as one of his real achievements. i think it creates a certain weight in her favor that anybody who wants to challenge for this job is got to keep in mind before they decide that. >> he mentioned a minute ago but made a graphic out of it now so everyone at home can read along with this. this is jd vance on kamala harris and her potential to become the nominee. a real indication about the trump campaign will bring up should she become the nominee. vance writes quote joe biden has been the worst president of my lifetime. and kamala harris has been right there with him every step of the way over the last four years she cosigned biden's open border green scam policies that drove up the cost of housing and groceries. she owns all of these abilities she lied for nearly four years about biden's mental capacity, saddling the nation with a president who cannot do the job. president trump and i ready to save america whoever is at the

top of the democratic ticket, bring it on. at least we have a pretty clear idea with the line of attack is going to be. >> ai think that will be the attack that has some basis in fact. that does one thing she gets the age issue off the table which is one of the strongest points against the sitting president. she brings in a fresh face shavings and new hope to demoralize democrats they're thg to be enthusiastic about her a woman of a person of color and all of that leads into that. she has a shot. the thing we have to keep in mind we assess this. you can argue a great many americans think she's a giggling idiot there's no doubt about that her early public opinion we are not reassuring. she has been less visible since and it's been a spokesperson on abortion issue which is something i guess is help the democrats. the thing that helped the

democrats more than anything else for all of the glorification of donald trump in the past week he remains a strikingly unpopular candidate. his approval ratings in the favorability ratings have almost never pumped up about 50%. an awful lot of americans resist him. they can make a credible case for whoever is the nominee they've got a real shot of winning this election would not bet on them necessarily but that is how i see it. >> is like a fire hose the reaction right now. britain i'm sure we are going to hear your voice again very soon thank you for joining us. >> my pleasure, thank you. >> bill, jump on in here. bill hemmer rejoined the coverage now. bill, i think we were all on friday as they went into the weekend at the point it was no

longer if this is going to happen but a matter of when. in the next few days who knows where this goes your thoughts? >> good afternoon to you. i've got a little more information here i can pass along. some of this will provide context for what's to come here. some of it has been referenced as well. the story is not even two hours old. clinton supports kamala harris obama does not, think about that that is where we are. drop the checkered flag we are off with that as we race. the individual i spoke to said it will be very, very hard to drop kamala harris as we all know she is a minority father from jamaica and a mother from india. i think she's just going to lose. it's hard to tell the allegiance of this person with this clinton or obama it goes back and forth so want to provide that too.

as i try to work to these comments appeared he brought up a good government governors that brought up he mentioned andy be sure the democratic governor of kentucky. i am from ohio so i kinda pay attention to that part of the country been andy beshear is that a good job. he seems to be popular in the bluegrass state pretty also invention j english the democrat governor of washington we haven't talked about him very much she said these governors are our hope. yet not california, he cannot win in a reference to gavin newsom. quote we need a governor because he and/or she needs to payroll that's with the public understands with regard to transportation, education, we all understand that as well. quote there is a huge amount of film with kamala harris laugh, the way she speaks is this type of word salad. i think britt coined that

phrase. a word salad which is worse than biden. the worst you can do as a candidate is to be ridiculed by david vega in front of trump for eight years and it does not seem to affect him. nobody did lose in 2020. i brought up the fact is that it sounds like you are in line with obama pretty sick clinton made a big mistake nobody cares what bill clinton says today. that's a point of debate as to whether the american public agrees with that statement. one more comment obama beat hilary in the part of clinton's attitude is been a problem. he has a grandiosity that bill and hilary clinton hate and that is a quote. again, coming back there's a problem bypassing kamala harris how do you overcome that? i don't know. so this a convention in his words is going to excite voters. they will see what a democratic process is as i tell you that that's the same thing this person told me back on may 15.

when the rules for the debate were announced. the exact same thing will go to chicago open it up and people see what democracy is all about price that they just saw it democratic process during the primary quote there were no other candidate that was not even a ripple. dean phelps a congressman from minnesota. >> marianne williamson as well pick. >> exactly. i'll get to the final point here, i'm sorry the people who will sleep tonight on the democratic candidates who were going down in defeat i'll throw this in here about senator kennedy was on the floor in denver in 2008 and senator kennedy had a lot of support going up against barack obama. there's a lot of people on the floor who still supported him it was on that tuesday night speech that lion out of massachusetts came in and roared and everybody got behind him. listen in summary as of today it

appears there will be a lot of action on day one in chicago and day one in chicago is 28 days from tomorrow back to you. >> will be quite a convention. want to mention ed kennedy as alluding to 1980. who would come forward to challenge kamala harris ted kennedy challenged jimmy carter at the 1980 convention. the challenge was there. let me ask you this question. you talk to people who think kamala harris is going to lose it. so, fate throat joe biden overboard and kamala harris loses election to donald trump has the whole thing been a fools errand? or is the greater concern among democrats for the coattails joe biden would have in the drag he would have on down ballot races potentially kamala harris might not have that same degree of drag? >> is thinking about this in milwaukee last week especially

towards the end of the week and dan and i were talking about a lot on friday here's what i think. i think you can slice this thing a hundred different ways. anyway you slice it, it is complicated. there is no guarantee of anything right now. the democrats are really in a bind and i would just contend that you and i and sandra, we've been watching joe biden for the last three years. we have seen how he hasn't govehas governedand been physicd mentally. you can see the strain in the correspondence of voices at the white house when they gained no access to the president day after day after day it is so obvious. i think this is the biggest story in america today. in my opinion. in my opinion during that de debate, who was in contact with

some of the commentators on cnn telling them during the debate it is over. he was john king and jones came out of the debate they were quoting their democratic sources as saying this guy is cooked essentially. that's really the match that sparks there's a prairie fire across this country against joe biden. now it took them almost a month but they have accomplish that. i think the question is who is behind that? were these clinton folks or obama folks? i don't know you can read the tea leaves and guess what you think. but that reaction that night was significant. conversely what could have happened after that debate is that you could've come out of that coverage of a 90 minute debate contra joe blow and he could have said joe biden was

just average i give him a c but he did make a good point on this and made a good point on that. and i'm making this up obviously. but trump meanwhile lied and 50 mental run that d dumpy right n. option b was not chosen, option a was. to come back to your question anyway you look at this rubik's cube for the democrats, it is very difficult to understand how they will get their backs off the wall. this is tough stuff i know it is a wonder 10 days before the election this is not the position you want to be in if you want to keep the white house. >> thank you. if you could were going to bring in dana now. she's got new information think about the rubik's cube most people cannot solve those. >> i never did a bill that i've been having this argument for three weeks about cnn.

because i just don't think john king and van jones have the power to do this i think the self-inflicted wound was made by biden himself biden wanted to do the debate he thought he would be better he was disastrous he would never watch the debates those millions of people of watching if they're not just watching cnn they're watching it going this is terrible by 9:17 p.m. i put my pen down and said it's over i never took another note. for the failed assassination attempt of donald trump you see him get back up all the republicans are all roaring like i will break their old wall for you, sir. the biden was like i've got nothing left he had nothing left turns out on saturday in your time supporting he asked two of his most senior advisor succumbed to the house in delaware and write a letter. even though the team was being told he's an economy's in it they were drafting a way for him to get out. new information is that this is coming from bloomberg i'm writing this from bloomberg soap is not true don't blame me.

it is a bloomberg saying michigan governor gretchen whitmer does not intend to challenge vice president, harassed and run for the democratic presidential nomination. this is david welch reporting from michigan. coaches had been saying it all along for a couple things you can think of is maybe she's thinking i would like a clean slate like if she loses her trump in the polls look like she will i would rather try to run clean and 2028. or, remember i said i do not know it kamala harris political operation is like maybe it's better than i thought. maybe she is able to say about you, you, you out right now. i don't know if gavin newsom will be doing that. do not forget the two worlds of politics. you're not out of the race until you are out of the race which would cover jan o'malley and you are not in the race until you are in the race either so all these democrats who are saying i'm not going to challenge until somebody convinces them to do it they're out of the race but listen to this from james

clyburn. one of present biden's first decisions as the nominee was to select a running mate hubley possessed the values and vision necessary to continue this country's pursuit toward a more perfect union. i echo the good judgment he devastated and selecting vice president harris to lead this nation alongside of him. i'm proud to follow his lead in support of her candidacy to succeed him. that is not a surprise i figured clyburn was going to be fully behind kamala harris. but they are getting out there early they are trying to create a sense of inevitability about this. >> that is why when were political operation is. my assistant just asked me a good question, does the campaign staff are biden/harris automatically become a campaign staff for kamala harris? i was a probably for the most for their minima both the democratic side they could say that. she will want her own people may be even at the top of that foodchain. there is going to be a lot of

movement on that front is well l detected democrat earlier a young guy and he believes if it is not kamala harris the democratic party it would be fractured for generation. that is his opinion he was an obama era type of guy. what we are seeing right now obama did not endorse kamala harris it looks like a lot of different camps out there. i'm sure the text messages are being blown up bright and i hope none of those phone companies go down are they better not do a software update tonight. >> oh dear progress people in need access to the phone. >> do not jinx us. i believe are going to bring in a harris of faulkner she is joining us by phone. part of the puzzle has been getting all these statements from all the democrats written including one from new mexico senator heinrich on biden getting out of the race but not endorsing kamala harris. and then apparently eric swallow

gave an interview he is endorsing kamala harris everyone is going on the record in some form welcome to the coverage for. >> thank you i feel blessed to join the conversation with you and dane and john. i have a lot of thoughts about what dana was just mentioning. and that is how you keep in clinch umbrella it now how do you keep people together in the democratic party? i don't think you do i don't think it breaks down who is their favorite at this point i think it breaks down to who they believe will win. they just want to keep power and the fact of the obama's came out and did not endorse the first black president did not endorse what could have been the first black asian present knowing how much they need that black vote just like they did in 2020 as it democrats, they backed away from the opportunity for them to do that to make it all about race and of course divide the country even more but they've not got away from doing that before so

why stop now? that's a really critical point. what are they holding we cannot see? what candidate out there can literally just walk over as she lays on the ground are they going to pick me are they going to pick me and look back and say it ain't you. maybe it will turn out to be her but if you cannot give a full throated support and endorsement on this day we are seeing history be made, on the week after the attempted assassination of the candidate on the other side politically if you cannot do it today with 29 days until they have to make a decision on a nominee doing it after the fact were close to the fact of the dnc convention really does not help. it is 107 days today until the actual election day. however there are many states that vote as early as 50 days out from the election. that means that by the time the convention happens you need to

have convinced people during that convention. they have got to do that and they are going in every direction i really do not think it's about who you like and who your favorites are. they have never supported her was less than heard anyone say she is really struggling with the board clinical helper at limited off the border with their i'm sorry, crickets from the clintons. looks like some of it was that she did such a great job on the border she should become president because she'll be in charge of the border and national security. in terms of how we got here, our paul steinhauser sent out this e-mail is a democratic source was very plugged into biden's political orbit confirms to fox the president met last night in rehoboth beach with this inner circle of longtime political advisers advisors among them mi, steve were up on capitol hill trying to convince democrats that he should stay in the race, and need it done and ron clean

who took so much cheaper the debate performance. this is clearly cooked up last night apparently was, according to other information prepared to stick it out then suddenly changed his mind. >> i was reading some of the latest np air polling that came out. and did not look good for him and there were reports of the campaign was doing this i don't know how much the white house was doing this. but we know you and i reported last week you and sandra dana as well they were pole testing kamala against the bidens when you drill down on some of that polling sheet did barely a little better than biden up against trump it is tight. look at that pole. look at what is written by npr. that tells me there were a lot of wrangling's about who else could it be? and until we can point to other

people and have a way forward let's not an ounce and then all the pressure on biden for the other number started coming out about how he is matching up now with trump we have not factored in the assassination attempt. we have not factored in what almost every candidate gets post their convention met at which party they are. can you imagine adding that up and i will say it again they had to do this today because you and i spoke last hour. they had to do this today to change the narrative for the democratic party they are losing he is a loser candidate for them. they have to change the narrative. not just because donald trump picks up a historic percentage potentially the black vote and people of color. not just because of that but also because of young people. they were tremendous amount of young people that convention that we just attended in milwaukee at the rnc. then you've got to go against the united party donald trump is in control of his party. joe biden and kamala harris are

part of it he's out she's never she's in with a few people endorsing her maybe. >> what a remarkable moment this is. we will obviously see you for continuing coverage we will see it for your show tomorrow morning 11:00 a.m. here in the fox news channel for. >> thank you. we'll see you tomorrow for joining us and stood here in washington, d.c.'s katie, there are a lots of republicans who are single what happened to the democratic process? you went to primary process 14 million people voted to have joe biden as the nominate now you're throwing them overboard bill hemmer pointed out, so insightfully a moment ago the clintons have come forward and endorsed kamala harris so is senator warner of virginia but barack and michelle obama or endorsing an open process to determine a nominee i do not want to say they are not sold on

kamala harris but there does seem to be a bit of a departure there. >> first i find it so interesting that over the past three weeks and set debate at the end of june democrats like nancy pelosi of come out and said the president is going to make his own decision the president is thinking about what he's going to do. when really the entire time there is not going to be an option for heavies have big donors polling checks produce a number of people coming out publicly the more it joe biden reportedly was taking in behind the scenes. i'm back here in washington d.c. at the white house you had a number of his staffers from communications press shop telling everybody he did not have any announcements coming he was saying in the race i am looking to see this number of staffers to maybe resign this week as a result of them allegedly finding out their candidate and the president was residing from this race on twitter. and also with they are thinking when it comes with they are going to do moving forward. in terms of the logistics of this for democrats i think the

lawyers the election lawyers again the engines revved up. both of the republican side in the democratic side. there's a big question whether joe biden can transfer all this campaign funds to kamala harris before he was actually nominated at the dnc convention in august. he has no legal standing as a candidate another does the vice president look at what the commissioner to about quote setting election law if the candidate is not a candidate in that general election all contributions made from the general election shall either be returned or refunded to contributors or redesignated or re- attributed as appropriate. back to the letter joe biden released today and he doesn't him suspending my campaign immediately. he says i'll talk to about it later in the week it says i want to stand down. there's a lot of logistical legalese when it comes out they can transfer the money whether they can transfer at all to any

other person besides kamala harris. >> look at continued reaction coming in use want to go to the lead up to this moment. there's a lot of different ways to look at there is the defense of the media there is defense of democrats, the calling of the early videos cheap fakes. don't believe your lying eyes the president is fine. a lot of that was happening that led up to the moment on the debate stage where democrats were in a position to come out and call out his mental acuity and the challenges with it. john kirby at the white house we covered it on our program was challenged by reporters in the room about our allies today have concerns about the mental acuity of the president involvement that debate performance and i member john kirby said he had not heard anything he had no reason to believe they're showing concern spoke started to get some early statements from some of these world leaders the german chancellor saint jo biden

has achieved a lot this his decision not to run deserves respect. there's others like the czech prime minister again there's just a lot coming at us and a lot coming in right now. undoubtedly this is the decision of a statesman who served his country for decades calling it a reasonable and responsible decision. i view art world leader calling and responsible decision did you have concerns before? over told him this white house had not heard that. a lot of that will be looked back on and questioned what they were hearing and when they heard it. >> not only looking back on it, also looking at the future in the moment we are in. the democrats who covered that up in the people who never wanted to come out and say this because it was insensitive or improper or not diplomatic they put the country into very dangerous position when it comes

to the enemies that are also watching those are allies releasing statements about the current president was a vladimir putin thinking? what is your jinping what is north korea looking out at one f the iranians looking at when they see what is happening? you hear a lot about chaos and allegations for former president trump's current campaign in his first term. this is a pretty chaotic when it comes to the of the country commander-in-chief. not to mention democratic party where they are going to go moving forward. how those world leaders feel about a potential president kamala harris as well on that note we mention their different people different factions of the democratic party endorsing or not endorsing her it's interesting to see whether they're going to want to move forward. donald trump was beating joe bided not just because of the mental acuity issue which of course came to height after the debate because we have been saying that for months on end but also on the issues and in

the very states where they need to win michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, is kamala harris the best candidate to speak to rustbelt voters in places like michigan she's private administration shoving the electric car bandit down the throats of workers there? that is something the trump campaign was able to really capitalize and take some of those voters away from the biting campaign. we are going to see her tested the hop to look at those very slim number of voters who may be looking at democrats for a second look after they decided they are not enthused about the former ticket because you mention it's all about the issues for most people. a lot of independent voters i would think it may be disinfected democrats look at biden in-state scary where he is in terms of cognitive decline and his physical ability. they also care about putting food on the table the economy is still the number one issue. inflation is still killing people across the board. and kamala harris' part and is d parcel with those policies.

there's a white house statement on biden and whether or not he would step down as a president saying he will finish his term they say quote president biden inherited an economy in freefall because of covid. a skyrocketing violent crime rate and alliances in tatters from his predecessor he looks forward to finishing his term delivering more historical results for the american people. now again we can apply the rule of politics you are there until you are not at that moment he is still president. he talked about potential legal challenges when it comes to access the campaign funds. do you expect that could be legal challenges, not just launched by republicans but maybe by rfk junior, jill stein and the green party when it comes to switching up that nominee? >> absolute rfk junior, aoc in the past has been adamant against just nominating someone for the sake of being chosen rather than have the voters do it. if you member aoc first got into

office one of her first acts was to go nancy pelosi power on one side and the aoc on the other side that wanted him to stay saying no, no, we want to have a real debate. you cannot just transfer funds. a little bit of room on the table for attorneys to get involved in say you wanted to do a process, you have to follow the rules and you have to follow the law. >> interesting to hear from debbie who just gave an interview at another network. very supportive of the president and his decision to stay in until now. she just called, she just said they will endorse kamala harris. joe biden has been a great president. calling it a sad day, katie.

that is who i am supporting. >> if you want a friend, go to washington, get a dog. the rest of the summer and the fall. >> i'm sure you're getting flooded with all the messages. talking all over the country and as people had back in on sunday evening. that does it for us. a lot ahead with brett there and martha continuing our coverage now. >> joe biden