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edition of the ingraham angle. biden. he's out. well, it's pretty wild, though, right? considering just this morning, biden's campaign co-chair, cedric richmond was saying thi. i want to be crystal clear. he's made a decision. and that decision is to accept the nomination and run for reelection, win reelection, okay. just a few hours later, a letter was released bearing biden's signature, announcing he's going to step aside from the race. so what happened between around 11 a.m. and 1:46 p.m, when we all got the alert on our phones? senior white house correspondent peter doocy is standing by. he can give us some insights. peter, good to see you on a sunday night. good to see you, laura. and we understand that for the president's top advisers made a pilgrimage to the beach house. it was ron klain, anita dunn, steve ricchetti and mike donilon. they were all there last night. and then this morning, president biden phoned kamala harris a few times to

let her know what exactly was going to happen. she is talking about this and saying with this selfless and patriotic act, president biden is doing what he has done throughout his life of public service, putting the american people and our country above everything else. as recently as last night, the president was digging in. according to a report in the new york times that outlined his frustration with speaker pelosi and barack obama for not doing more to stop the democratic party mutiny against him and president biden justified staying in the race. just last week, saying he initially wanted to be a bridge to another generation of democrats. but he doesn't want to hand things off to them. while the country is so polarized, the pressure on the president built and built and built after that really shaky debate, which happened way earlier than normal because his campaign thought that was going to help them. it didn't. the president now says it has been the greatest honor of my life to serve as your president. and while it has been my intention to seek reelection, i believe it is in the best interest of my party and the country for me

to stand down and focus solely on fulfilling my duties as president for the remainder of my term. and there have been a lot of questions about what exactly the family's impact was on president biden, as he weighed what to do. and we just got a statement from the first lady's office that says, down in the last hours of the decision only he can make, she was supportive of whatever, whatever road he chose. she's his biggest believer, champion and always on his side. and that trusted wei only a spouse of almost 50 years can be. that is the latest from a very, very busy day here at the white house. laura wow, peter. thank you so much. i want everyone to understand there are a few points we have to be very clear about tonight. biden. tonight is just as overall healthy and just as capable of doing the job as he was before the debate with president trump. obama, schumer, pelosi, they all knew

that he was, you know, basically not completely together. the weeks and weeks and weeks ago, in fact, they've known it for years. but they didn't care. they didn't care so long as it didn't threaten their hold on power. so what changed for biden wasn't his overall competence. it's he's never been competent. what's changed is that he is now a threat to the democratic party, to solve this threat, the power brokers in the party apparently intended to give the nomination to kamala harris. well, that is ludicrous. you think you just fell out of a coconut tree? you exist in the context of all in which you live, and what came before you. the significance of the passage of time. so when you think about it, there is great significance to the passage of time. who doesn't love a yellow school bus, right? can you raise your hand if you love a yellow school

bus? right. i love venn diagrams. always ask, is there a venn diagram for this? i'm telling you, it's fascinating when you do imagine the venn diagram that explained what happened last night and this morning. kamala harris has not won a single primary. she hasn't persuaded a single delegate she tried to run in the 2020 cycle. and we all remember she was utterly humiliated, dropping out even before the iowa caucuses. and according to the regime, media, her performance as vp has been pretty abysmal. vice president kamala harris and her office are on damage control tonight after the latest in a series of missteps. growing tension between vice president kamala harris and the white house as the 2024 race heats up, can she make a good second impression on voters, or could she drag down the democratic ticket? and remember what politico told us about harris's vp office? that it was totally dysfunctional

and i remember when the washington post told us that harris's staff hated to work for her. and remember when the hill told us that harris had lost 13 high profile aides in less than two years as vp and then just what is it? a year ago, less than a year ago, when the atlantic, of all places, told us that few people seem to think she's ready to be president? so what republican could write a better attack ad than this article from last fall? ease and confidence have not been the prevailing themes of harris's vice presidency. her first year on the job was defined by rhetorical blunders, staff turnover, political missteps and a poor sense among even her allies of what exactly constituted her portfolio. within months of taking office, president joe biden was forced to confront a public perception that harris did not measure up. ultimately, the white house issued a statement insisting that biden did in fact rely on his vice president as a

governing partner. but harris's reputation has never quite recovered. and truthfully, it probably never will again. the people who really run things in the democratic party again obama, schumer, pelosi, they know that harris is incompetent just like they knew that biden is incompetent. but tonight, i'm telling you, they do not care. they just want something to change the narrative that has been a nightmare for them. and harris, look, she certainly could do that. she would change the white house from a place where staff ignore the president to a place where staff actively hate the president. so again, let me be clear. no one who truly loves this country, no one who truly wants the best for the american people, would ever suggest subject us to someone like kamala harris. not a single person in dc, and not a single person in any government office

anywhere in the world, including in beijing or moscow, actually believes that she is capable of doing the job. that means making her own calls on the big issues. so the best case scenario is that she would just be a puppet who does what the bureaucracy, the media, and the donor class tell her to do. but the worst case scenario is that she will bring the chaos that she sowed in her disastrous presidential campaign and in her time as vp, directly into the oval office. joining me now, charlie hurt, opinion editor for the washington times, and ari fleischer, former white house press secretary, both fox news contributors, ari, just moments ago, a source told fox that joe manchin is considering reregistering as a democrat and jumping into the race. this is the democratic party. everyone behold this happening before our very eyes. they hide all the details that happened this morning. what changed joe's mind? we'll never know. they'll

always hide those. and now, i guess, kamala, you got a leapfrog her and go to west virginia. yeah, well, it won't be joe manchin. i mean, don't forget, these are still joe biden's delegates. they are not conservative west virginia democrats. but somebody's got to run. somebody's going to step in. i don't think kamala harris is going to have the field all to herself. and here's one of the reasons why laura, the democrats and kamala harris have found the only person in politics who has a favorable rating lower than joe biden's. if you look at this, joe biden's favorability rating today is 39. kamala harris's favorability rating is 38, compared to donald trump, who's favorable is 43. so i am certain that one thing is going to happen now. there's a short term benefit to the democrats because it's somebody other than biden, and that's going to get them a focus. it's going to get them a lot of media support because the media will rally.

but the trump campaign, which is extraordinarily well organized, is going to make the case against a san francisco liberal who failed the nation and led in all the tens of millions of people across the southern border that she was in charge of who supported joe biden's big spending inflation creating measures on capitol hill and his weak and soft on crime. and when it comes to crime, this is one of her biggest failures. this is a vice president, kamala harris, who in 2020, after the george floyd riots, paid to bail out arsonists. this is a kamala harris who, when president trump sent troops, federal troops into portland to protect a courthouse that was under siege and under fire from blm and antifa, she called for the withdrawal of federal forces. this is what you get with a san francisco liberal. she's not going to make it across the country. i don't think she's going to improve that 38% favorability rating very much. well, first of all, you've got to write in bigger font. okay, ari, you got to do the karl

rove big block letters, okay? i mean, i'm looking at that through the prompter. i can't see what the hell that was. yeah. no. okay okay. all right. this is for you, charlie, because i was looking back at stuff this afternoon with this broke. now, nbc news is reporting that democrat donors. okay, this was just what yesterday. i forget what day it is. everything's so crazy. left a call with kamala harris frustrated and annoyed. this was on july 20th. is it july 21st? i don't even know what day it is. okay, this has been such a wild time. she was also defending biden. yeah, one day ago. so they were in a call with her. and this was supposed to quiet everybody's concerns. and the people on the call went crazy. it was a mismanaged. it's not all kamala harris's fault, but it seems like every time they put kamala harris out there to calm people down, chaos ensues. and then she goes on in this call and she insisted that and i'm quoting

her from the notes of this call, we know which candidate in this election puts the american people first. our president, joe biden, with every decision he makes in the oval office, he thinks about how people impact working americans. and i witness it every day. so charlie, she just says this in a call like two days ago, and now she's the gal that biden is endorsing, and he's getting out. but she was part of this whole cover up from day one. was was she not? yeah. she absolutely was. and she'll have all sorts of questions like that to answer. you know, obviously this is very late in the campaign for, for a party to be swapping out its candidate, but it's still a lot of time between now and november 5th in terms of how long kamala harris has to run this campaign without reminding voters of her true self. and i think that when you point to things like that phone call and you point to things like her,

her czar czarist tenure at the border, and you talk about all of the policies, the failed policies of the biden administration, and you start reminding her of these things. and whether it's in a debate or on the campaign trail, she's going to have to answer a lot of really tough questions, not the least of which is going to be the question about how did you you you know, how is it possible that you lied to people for as long as you did about the condition of the president? and one other thing i just think is really kind of interesting about the age factor. i know that kamala harris and democrats are going to try to talk about donald trump's age, even though anybody who's been around him, anybody who's been to a rally, sees that he is so with it. his age is not a problem for him. but i do think it's kind of interesting because we've all been sitting around wondering if age is so important. we've been sitting here wondering for years, who's actually running the country. and it turns out that nancy pelosi is running the country. she's the one who's ordering joe biden to do

what it is that he does. and she says, get out of the race. he gets out of the race, and she is the oldest of them all. she's 84 years old. i think from now on, when you when you swear, when you when you when you swear. a next democratic president in if she's alive still just swear her in and drop the pretenses. it's ridiculous. charlie. ari, stay with us. take a look at still the democratic nominee. we're going to find out shortly. maybe i don't know what. let's do this. let's do a poll. who would you most like to run against? because you know, you could say, who's the best candidate? we're saying, who would you like to? so who would you like to most run against if you're us, if we want to win, ready? kamala harris. well, sounds like trump ready to take on kamala or whomever gets the nomination. ultimately, he's

not holding back on biden either. today, in a statement to fox digital, the former president said he's not fit to serve. and i ask who is going to be running the country for the next five months? joining me now is danielle alvarez, trump campaign senior adviser danielle, thanks for joining us tonight. now running against kamala versus running against biden. they're the same in a way. they agree on most of the issues of course, but she's a lot younger. she's like 25 years younger than joe biden or more. so how does this change it? doesn't the trump campaign has been prepared for whoever would be at the top of the ticket, because we have the best asset in all of politics. we have donald trump, who delivered the devastating and dominant debate performance that has led to joe biden dropping out of the race and ultimately, kamala owns every single failure of the biden-harris administration and then some, because she is the

true definition of a california liberal. well, when you think about that debate, though, i mean, it was more than the substance the substance was great, but it was the performance. and are you saying tonight that you believe her performance will be as abysmal as joe biden's performance, or you're just going to say on the substance, you're going to win hands down? i think both i think it's very clear that kamala harris really struggles to form a sentence. you know, she speaks in venn diagrams. we've all heard her diatribe about yellow school busses and so forth, and the president is a great messenger to the american people, not only in the way that he delivers his message, but in his record. and voters are dying to return back to president trump's strength, to his success, and to the prosperity that he delivered when he was in the white house. i mean, right now, democrats

are just rearranging chairs on a sinking titanic. well, some democrats, though, are actually pretending to get really excited. watch. let me just tell you, as a democrat, somebody i was a national co-chair for kamala harris for president. we're so excited. now my phone is blowing up. it's going crazy. i think that there is a lot of excitement, a lot of chaos, a lot of confusion. but at the end of the day, democrats, i have kamala harris and a long list of other possible vp, individuals taking on jd vance and donald trump. and we stand a fair chance. well, danielle, they think that she's younger. she's you know, obviously it would be a historic president because she's, you know, not the typical white male that we've seen except for obama. so what about that? well i think that we're going to have a hard time seeing the democrat party coalesce around kamala harris. remember, she is not the choice of democrat voters. she's a choice of the very elites that

joe biden decried for pushing him out, out of the campaign trail. and so i think it's, you know, it's wishful thinking that they will come and coalesce around her. we will see who ends up at the top of the ticket. it has been an absolute disaster for a few weeks for democrats. and it's in stark contrast to president trump to the historic republican national convention and to the months ahead, the 100 days ahead that will lead to victory for the republican party and for the nation as a whole. one thing that i think is interesting is that a joe biden at least had the pretense of being kind of working class, you know, scranton, joe and all. but he on around the edges, he could mix it up with the union guys, even if his policies didn't really help union workers that much. but he could play that role a little bit. she can't play that role at all. she has zero credibility with working class people, zero coming from san francisco and everything that's happened to that city and

everything she represents. so to me, that's the biggest, the biggest benefit to having kamala harris in there versus joe biden, not even the age difference. it's the working class sensibility. she can't even pretend to have it. i'm not sure who she relates to at all. again, she's a california elite. she's a california liberal. she was the original border czar. she once supported abolishing ice, decriminalizing border crossings. let's not forget she was the deciding vote on the $1.9 trillion spending package that sent us and triggered inflation. i mean, i'm not sure what american voter will look at her record and think that she is the person for them, because not only does she have the disasters before she joined the harris biden ticket, you know, but it's been an abysmal three and a half years. and by the way, she was the liar who did not who who hid the fact that joe biden was having serious

health issues. so that trust is just not there. all right. fox's bret baier just talked to senator joe manchin, who says that he is in fact, considering throwing his hat into the ring even just to be the voice that brings the democratic party back to the middle. i don't know what that add on comment says. i mean, that kind of seems like it's just kind of a you not even serious. but he would be more threatening, would he not be to the trump campaign because he does have much more of an appeal to middle of the road voters, certainly, than kamala harris. wouldn't you be concerned about his candidacy? that's just not where the democrat party is. i mean, that's just not a real hypothetical. to think that he would be the choice of democrat voters, the democrat party, and especially the elites who are pushing biden out and making this decision, you know, are more in line with a kamala harris. and that's just not

where the american people are. so i think it's just going to continue to be a couple disastrous weeks for democrats as they head toward their democrat national convention. i don't think anyone should take anything for granted. and i know the trump campaign's not because anyone gets cocky that it's going to be a cakewalk. i think they're going to be sorely disappointed. danielle, great to see you. thank you so much. and it's the fact that our democracy remains deeply at risk. democracy is on the line. we are facing down fascism. he will continue to undermine our democracy. well, it seems like the so-called guardians of democracy don't really care about that all that much, do they? so they had a primary, but they're happy to just dismiss the choice of almost 15 million americans. interesting how that works. joining me now, kevin mccarthy, former speaker of the house. mr. speaker, so kamala dropped out of the 2020

race in november of 2019 before the iowa caucuses. and she said at the time that she didn't she knew that she didn't have a path forward. what's changed now for her is it just that some big money will line up behind her, or do you consider the possibility of her being the sacrificial lamb for the people really running the democrat party? as someone to just, you know, finally dismiss her and just get ready for 2028? well, there could be two schools of thought here. you know, nancy pelosi was the person behind this, but i was told by a couple democrat congressional members from california that behind the scenes, nancy pelosi says kamala harris would be worse than biden. so the other thing you see is you're correct. she dropped out of the primary for president even when she ran for senate. and she's only running against another democrat because we have the top two in california. they had to retool her campaign. she comes from

san francisco of all places. that's been her history. they may be pushing her out at the very beginning to see if she collapses really soon and then bring another democrat up and have an open race inside the convention. but for the democrats to say democracy is on the ballot, that's hypocrisy now. and for the number one question that she's going to have to answer now is why did she lie to the american public? this is the democrats, watergate. it is not going to be washed away. they want to know who knew. and when and why didn't they say anything? and she's the number one defender and liar. this entire time. every time i went out forward and said, after my meetings with this president that i challenged that he's not the same joe biden. she was the one to attack me, and so was nancy pelosi. well, mr. speaker, she just hid biden's decline like 24 hours ago or 36 hours ago on that call with donors that nbc did the big piece on, the donors were frustrated and

angry after this call because it was poorly run. they weren't getting any explanations. but kamala harris said he's the man. joe biden joe biden is the man. and i've seen him make so right up until the last minute, she's been lying to the american people. so with a party that's done that for really three years, how do they regain any sense of legitimacy or trust at this point? regardless of who they nominate? they don't. they're going to have to continue to go through. they're going to have to answer the question, should joe biden literally stay as president, or would he end like nixon and have to resign? why wouldn't if they truly believed in harris, why wouldn't they make her president give her air force one to fly around, give her a greater strength? let her pick her nominee for vp to become the vice president. that would be a real strong ticket. but they're not. what i'm finding now is they ought to go back and read kipling. right. the person who keeps his head while everybody else is losing theirs. they're moving too fast, too quickly in this, and they've never answered the

number one fundamental question. why have you lied to us for the last three years? look, she was the key vote that brought us inflation. she was the border czar. that has failed time again. she comes from san francisco. she is weak on crime. she is not going to sell in these other places. even democrats themselves. they are just so wanting to move away from joe biden. they literally privately told me last week that they were afraid she was worse. newsweek a week after that debate, kamala harris polling even got worse for her. so i'm not sure that this answers any questions, but only opens more. she's going to collect all the negatives of joe biden and the lying of the administration. but whatever. positive there, i don't know how it adds to it. well, and i think also the question here is how does she connect with those working class voters? mr. speaker, that trump's had such a lot of success with at least if these polls are anywhere near accurate in the swing

states. so i'm not sure how she does any better with any of those voters than joe biden from, you know, scranton and wilmington is going to do. she won't look at joe biden. being from scranton helped him. kamala harris being from san francisco does not. even her interview with lester holt, she couldn't get through the border. i mean, time and again, every time she goes to campaign, she's a worse campaigner than we've even looked on paper. so i don't understand that this movement so quickly of where they want to go, what i see really happening here is they're even going to get challenged on the money. i know what they tried to do, take biden's name off and harris, that's going to get challenged in court. and the fec is pretty clear. you've got to give that money back. or if you run it to a super pac that is different because a candidate has one advantage. they get it by tv at a lower rate than super pacs, and that would be a real disadvantage. but if i was anybody i would challenge kamala harris right to that money because that is a

continual lie to the american public. they gave that money for joe biden running for president. they didn't say, when you talk about democracy, you talk about the rule of law. the democrats have thrown that all out the window. and if joe biden said he'd only get off the ballot if god told him or if he or a doctor told him, then he's off the ballot. now so tell me what god said, and then tell me what the doctor said. so why are you staying as president? yeah, and it's such humiliation for biden. i mean, mr. speaker, you've been around washington a long time, so i but if this decision is being made to force the guy and he didn't write that letter, i'm sorry he didn't write that letter. i don't know who wrote it, but he didn't write it. but to force him to put out a letter, not even giving him the dignity of being able to go on camera and do it. the right way, he's going to do something later in the week. what about the optics of that, that is a shiv in his back up until the

very end. yeah. think about all what they have done to him. why wouldn't they give this president who's sitting there, the right to give an oval office address, talk to the entire american public about his own future in his own words, say why he would no longer be on the ballot. they denied his ability for american history, that somehow it is a tweet for the history of america instead of in your own voice, in your own words, in your own passion. i this is how bad this party is. well, what do you think obama is up to here? i mean, he didn't come out and endorse kamala harris. i, i will say again that other than maybe pelosi, schumer is pretty smart as politics go, he's the smartest and most popular democrat around, right. so he decided he wasn't going to come out and endorse her. what's he thinking? he's actually the smartest one in the room in the democratic party right now, because he was the he was the levers behind

the scenes pushing this. remember, he jumped joe biden when joe biden was his own vice president. but what he has done here is helped push joe biden out. he had axelrod come out a year ago just knifing joe biden, the entire time, telling him he was going to lose. he started pushing members to come out against him and now he's smart enough to take a pause, not to just jump where you go to kamala harris, because he knows that could even be worse for the ticket. overall, take a deep breath and wake up the next day and let's think about what we're going to do. you know, there is an advantage for democrats here. republicans are done with their convention. president trump had to select his vice vice president nominee without knowing who he was going to run against. and now we're off to the races. they get to have another four weeks before their convention. they can sit and put a whole ticket together with already know our entire game plan. that is one advantage. the democrats can have. and joe biden, i mean,

obama is the only one smart enough to take a deep breath and say, pause for a second. and isn't it true she could flame out in the next couple of weeks and then she'll be off the she'll be off the contenders list. i mean, if they're willing to do what they did to a guy in washington for a, for a half a century, the what the humiliation they rained down upon him today. you don't think if she flubs it up in the next couple of weeks, which is entirely possible, that should be off. and they'd be on to the next person. not only is there a chance of her doing it, that is the history of kamala harris, a flaming out she she had 20,000 people show up to her announcement for president. probably one of the best rollouts. and she didn't even make it to one primary. no one has ever voted for her for president, and now they're going to make her the nominee. that's unheard of. this is a party that does not care about the rule of law, does not care

about democracy and all. they are the machiavellian party because they think the end justifies the means and they want to blame everything else for every dirty trick they've ever done. goodbye old puppet. hello new puppet. mister speaker, thanks for joining us. all right, well, the day began with a defiant joe biden. he was ready to return to the campaign trail this week. it was announced his team went on tv and said that the rumors of his dropping out were false, and they were adamant about it. but then at 1:46 p.m, everybody got the alert on their phone. a letter was released bearing his signature, announcing that he was going to step aside from the race and minutes later, because he hadn't done it in the letter, so rushed, he endorsed kamala. but again, just because he's backing her, it does not mean, as kevin mccarthy just said, that she will automatically become the nominee. fox's senior congressional correspondent chad pergram is here with what happens next. chad, a lot of

people are confused by this process that might go forward. so how will democrats actually arrive at their new nominee? it is rather convoluted. vice president harris is now phoning democratic members of congress to ramp up their support. this is not a coronation, but in the primary, democratic voters cast ballots for biden and harris. democrats are worried about more chaos. democratic new york representative ritchie torres says, quote, anyone musing about a romanticized free for all at the convention is living in a dangerous fantasy land. torres says. democrats who want that are, quote, asking for the continuation of the chaos. he calls on democrats to unify around harris, but nothing is crystal clear. there may be things to sort out. people have that right. we have a democratic process, and anybody who wants to run should be able to say they're running and go out and work this hard. i don't

know of anybody right now, but there are a couple of names i still hear. let's see. here are the mechanics. president biden has 3800 delegates committed to him. dean phillips, the representative from minnesota four, and jason palmer from american samoa, three. here's what phillips said this morning. let's have a thoughtful, spirited competition show. great contrast with a republican felon of the past and a dynamic democrat for the future. it's not too late now. phillips endorsed a mini primary, but there's no time to rerun the primaries in states. the delegates who president biden won in the primary are pledged to him, but not bound to him. delegates can vote any way they want at the convention, and that's why harris is on the phone right now trying to lock up delegates. laura chad, i just want to go back to what i asked former speaker mccarthy. barack obama is the smartest democrat alive, in my view. no

no, not even close. other than maybe pelosi, what is he thinking here is this is this a desire perhaps to just have this appear to be a really, you know, streamlined yet still very democratic process, despite 15 million people almost voting for joe biden. and they're basically out of luck. now, we'll note that hakeem jeffries, chuck schumer, nancy pelosi, they have not endorsed vice president harris right now. and as the former speaker said, you know, maybe there's the chance here for harris to flame out. maybe she doesn't get all the support that some democrats have. you know, put her way this afternoon. and if it doesn't work, you know, there's an analogy in hockey, the home team has what they call final change. you see what the other team, the players they put out on the ice first and you see what the match up is. and then you put your team out on the on the ice. so what's happened here? the republicans have put their team out on the ice and democrats here because their convention is second. they have final change here. they can

maybe put the best possible team, at least from their vantage point out on the ice. we'll see if they do that. is harris the best player to have on the ice right now? they think so, but they are not 100% sure. chad, the intrigue continues on a sunday night. chad, great to see you. thanks so much. all right. so again, the most popular person who's a democrat in america, probably around the world, has refrained from making an endorsement. i mean, he's been thinking about this for a number of weeks, at least. so what is he really thinking? i think this is the most fascinating question of all of this. joining me now, stephen miller, former senior adviser. of course, to president trump, founder of america first legal, stephen, as chad just said, we don't want to repeat what we just said, but chad just said, you know, we didn't have pelosi, jeffries, obama. isn't it the case that they know her very

well? they know kamala harris. i'm not sure if they like her or not. i have no idea. but they know that she is not a slam dunk. well, i think kevin, the former speaker, laid it out so well, she has never in her life run a compelling campaign. she's been the beneficiary of a great deal of luck and good fortune. but if you look at her presidential campaign, she flamed out and she flamed out hard. one of the most important factors, which obama obviously knows, is that she would be the most liberal head of a democrat ticket in american history. left of carter, left of mcgovern. she would be the left most candidate ever to lead the democrat party. think about how that's going to turn off working class voters all over the country. not to mention her record is border czar. so they are truly trapped because she has none of biden's attractive qualities to the working class, which is why they chose him in 2020. all of the baggage of the

administration. and she's really napalm. in fact, for working class voters. but if they ditch her, they lose all of the money they've raised and they go into a totally chaotic convention. so this really is a democrat party in crisis. well, they're pretending it's all exciting, right? they say this is exciting. no, it's chaos. you subverted. you literally subverted your own democratic process as you spent the last three and a half years more, let's say six years, or let's say nine years trashing donald trump for doing literally what you just did to your own voters. what there may be, what, 25, 30% of the voters who still preferred, joe biden to remain at the top of the ticket, right? i mean, at least that well, and they don't care about those voters, stephen. they don't care. they held a primary people. they had

ballots, they filled out circles. they went to the voting booths. they spent money on advertisements. and as president trump said, the republican party spent tens of millions of dollars running against joe biden. now they just woke up one morning and said, never mind. we're canceling the entire primary. we're getting rid of our candidate, and we're pretending the election is never even happened, and we're going to let donors handpick a new nominee. they're publicly admitting that they are an oligarchy. they are not running a democracy. they are not running a representative republic. this is an oligarchy controlled by business interests and the democratic convention is the private corporation that represents those business interests. this is as full frontal, an attack on american democracy as we've ever seen in the history of america's major political parties. yeah, let's face it, george clooney with a lift from obama, has more influence on the democratic party than like 14 million voters. all right. moments ago, gavin newsom, your

pal, endorsed kamala, writing on x tough, fearless, tenaciou. with our democracy at stake, they're still pushing that line and our future on the line. no one is better to prosecute the case against trump's dark vision and guide our country to health. they have. i can't even read this stuff. they have got to update their talking points. you know, sometimes, you know, we're in live television. we can't update things fast enough, but at least we try. they don't even try to update their their lines at this point. stephen, it's so bad you can't use the democracy talking point on the day when you actually canceled the entire democratic primary. oh, never mind all those votes. they don't count. we actually picked the nominee. look, this is a democrat party fundamentally, this is the most important point. why are they in crisis? because their record is indefensible. laura wars all over the world, wars in europe, wars in the middle east, a border on fire, an economy in freefall. inflation is out of control. the record hasn't changed. yeah the record isn't

changing. it's just old puppet of the globalists. new puppet of the globalist. okay, goodbye old puppet. hello new puppet. i'm going to say it all night long. change results don't change. no, stephen, it's always fun to see you on a sunday. thanks, stephen. thank you. all right. again. you thought biden was a complete nightmare. don't expect any better from kamala harris after all, she was just part of this whole cover up. all along. if there ever is a problem. yeah. do you think that you could go tell the american public, do you think in your role that you're that you're in a position to do that? of course, if necessary. but there's no need for that. she we don't need to go back to november. she just said he's fine. five minutes ago and a call with donors. i mean, joining me now, missouri senator josh hawley. senator, we were going to have you on the other night about

the secret service nightmare that's still hanging over all of this, but if she gets the nomination, kamala harris, given everything we've said, a lot of it already tonight, i want to repeat. but if she gets the nomination, who is really going to be running the show in the white house? is it the same cabal running the show now, or are they going to change up some of the players? oh no, it'll be the same people, laura, but it won't be anybody actually in the white house. it will be the people who chose joe biden and who will choose the next nominee. it will be wall street. it will be big business and it will be hollywood. they're the people who chose biden. they're the people who made the money off of biden. he can't make them any more money. so now they've ditched him and they're holding an audition. i don't know if it will be kamala. i think they haven't decided. but they're who matter. those 15, 16 million democrat primary voters, they don't matter. who matters is wall street. private equity and hollywood. that's who controls this thing. and laura, whoever gets the nod,

they will be in charge 100. well so we understand from our reporters tonight that she is working the phones to use a tired old cliche, working the phones. try to shore up her support. tell everybody really, i'm smart. i'm really smart, and i'm really accomplished. when you have to say that you're not okay. so she's doing that. meanwhile, people who i think do have some talent, i don't agree with them, but they have talent. josh shapiro in pennsylvania, if i were trump, i would not want to run against him for a couple of reasons. he's, you know, he's he has a good approach. he's he comes across as a little more sane and he actually can think on his feet. he's not getting in this race. he doesn't want any part of running in this race. neither does newsome. neither does whitmer. what do they know? those three stars of the party about running against donald trump? well, they know that it's likely a suicide mission. i mean, listen, donald trump is a powerful candidate. he's a strong candidate. the reason that voters selected him

as our nominee and have voted for him in the past is because he is not beholden to those same people we were talking about. he's not beholden to hollywood. he's not beholden to wall street. he's not beholden to big business. in fact, they all hate him, which is the best endorsement of trump he could possibly get. so that's going to be the real choice here. it doesn't matter who the democrat nominee is. they're not going to be calling the shots. it's going to be those other folks, you know. so the choice is between do you want to have somebody who actually represents you, who actually represents your voice and is going to make this country strong? do something for you? or do you want somebody who's just going to call it phone it in for wall street? i mean, listen, wall street's going to make money no matter who the dem nominee is. that is going to be the real contrast here. yeah, well, i have to say, for a party that claimed it was going to bring all this calm and unity and transparency, calm in the world is obviously that hasn't worked out. but what is putin zhi, kim jong un? i mean, they're watching

democracy democrat party style. how's it looking to them? they got to have a big chuckle out of all this. oh i mean oh, they got to be laughing their heads off. now the democrats are rigging their own elections. laura. i mean, this is hysterical. i mean, it looks like, dare we say it, an insurrection. i mean, it is hysterically funny. or would be if not for the fact that democrats have persecuted good americans, half of the country, and more for the last three years doing exactly what they're doing now? no, this is this is a joke. and again, it is a desperate, desperate attempt for the most powerful people in this country to cling to their power. joe biden is no longer useful to them. they're trying to find their next puppet. and we're going to have several weeks of auditioning for who that puppet is going to be. but at the end of the day, republicans know who our candidate is donald trump, who's not a puppet. and that's why he's going to win in november. you bet. yeah. he doesn't answer to any of those people. and that's why he's always been a threat to washington. senator thank you so much. this just in, senator

pete buttigieg endorses kamala, writing i will do all that. i can to help elect kamala harris. the next president of the united states. we have still have. senator hawley. i have to get his take on this, senator hawley, your thoughts on that? we've got, i guess, the cabinet feels like it has to, you know, step forward. and it has to actually put out its endorsement. i guess we lost him. okay. all right. bye. all right. ahead breaking new details from behind the scenes on how joe biden actually made that decision. it seems like within a minute by minute. but a decision to drop out stay with us. did you know sling has your favorite news programs for just $40 a month? my favorite news for just $40 a month. my favorite news for just $40 a month. $40 a month. my favorite news for just $40 a month. $40.

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tosses lemons your way. circle available at walmart and drink circle com. the biden team insisted for weeks and weeks right up until this morning that joe biden was staying in this race, he would be the democrat nominee. and let's move on. we don't need to talk about this anymore. so what the heck? change from this morning around 11 to about 1:46 p.m. in the afternoon, fox news senior national correspondent kevin corke is live from rehoboth, delaware, and he's, well, rehoboth beach. you're not at the beach. well, you kind of are at the beach. kevin, good to see you. my friend. good to see you, laura. i'm actually

just down the street from the beach. you know, the old sayin, life comes at you fast. let me share something from just 16 days ago. it was then that president biden took to x and defiantly declared the following. you'll appreciate this. let me say this as clearly as i can. i'm the sitting president of the united states. i'm the nominee of the democratic party. i'm staying in the race. well, that was then. and this is now. a little more than two weeks later, mr. biden, no longer facing calls from democrats to drop out of the race. he's facing calls from republicans to resign all together, which, of course, could now set off a series of showdowns on capitol hill as democrats try to keep him on the job for the next. well, certainly through the election, next 107 days. and then beyond that, through january of 2025. but the real reason mr. biden is dropping out is simple donor money. if you've been following this carefully, you know that it really began to dry up in

the wake of that disastrous debate performance and the real big money backers of the party and of the campaign. let it be known, no change at the top, no money here on out. and as already, we're reading the reports in the times and elsewhere that the money, laura, is flowing once again, primarily in support of the vice president, kamala harris, who at this very hour is really beginning to coalesce the support that she'll need to become her party's standard bearer as a growing list of lawmakers continue to throw their support behind miss harris and i can you're seeing some names that stand out. obviously, the clintons and others, gavin newsom, pete buttigieg, among them, laura. i still don't understand what happened between 11 a.m. and 146, that all the donors come forward and that two hour time, you know what i'm saying? like something something about this is just weird. i mean, they

were on television this morning on cbs saying he's staying in. yeah, you're right. the polling in michigan didn't help. go back and check out with the free press. had trump up plus seven. that really hurts. and you add to the fact that he's well behind in a lot of these swing states. and the donors look at that stuff and they say, look, i'm not throwing good money after bad. either he goes or my wallet goes. and i think that was the ultimate decision. yeah, maybe don't send your campaign person out on the morning shows. that's kind of a dumb move. kevin. great to see you. thank you. all right. joining us now, michael larosa, former press secretary for jill biden. all right, michael, you know how the bidens operate, and behind closed doors, making decisions, family conversations. that's a short period of time, right? it's a short window for things to have changed. give us your sense here. well, it looks like steve ricchetti, his long time political adviser. mike donilon, his, a longtime pollster of his and his sort of

speechwriter, you know, his voice, they looked at a round of polling last night. it looked like it was getting a lot worse, steve, obviously, he ran the desk. so he knows down ballot politics very well. he's been feeling the pressure from pelosi and the senate. senate. senate majority leader, look, they saw the writing on the wall. he went to bed last night after a family meeting, and it looks like this morning he did have a change of mind. or at least he confirmed a change or accepted a change of mind. do you think that the kamala harris decision, she's racking up a lot of endorsements. is that a fait accompli at this point? people are going back and forth on this. could there be another alternative or is it really too late? well, it's it depends how you look at it. so technically, if anybody had guts, if anybody wanted to do sort of what donald trump or

barack obama did and be an insurgent, you could technically start whipping delegates because those biden delegates are not bound, are not committed. they're not bound. they're, as your reporter said, they are just pledged. so if there was a real whip operation, if somebody really wanted to get in there, they could certainly challenge the vice president. absolutely so on the first round, they're not pledged. well, he stepped aside. so right away they're free. it's right. right to do. you know, he wants them to be able to go right to harris. but we understand there's going to be some, legal challenges. i have to get to this breaking news. abc news is reporting that biden's youngest brother, frank biden, said that, quote, overall health and vitality played a major role in his brother's decision to end his white house run. now, michael, i was wondering when this was going to come because overall health and vitality, i guess

that could mean i'm slowing down a little bit, right? but i can finish the presidency. is that a viable argument? if you're well, you can't run for president, you can still be president. well, i'm thinking about it politically right now about the election. i mean, it better be because of health, because if otherwise we should have been talking about this a year ago. and in fact, people were talking about this two years ago. there were donors that asked them, you know, simply not to run two years ag, so they, you know, i love the president. i love the first lady. i, i care deeply about them, but, you know, the party is in a really precarious situation right now. it's very akin to sort of the access hollywood time back in 2016. only our speaker was a little bit more successful. well, this is, this is a bad moment for the democrat party. i don't care how anyone tries to spin this. michael, great to see you. thank you so much. you

too. we are going to have a harris trump matchup, and donald trump i still think should be considered a slight favorite in that matchup. but kamala harris i think really scrambles this race. and i think we'll create great excitement and enthusiasm both amongst the democratic party, but also voters more broadly who i think are going to be excited that there's a new matchup here, excited you're going to hear that word a lot. they're excited. real clear politics has already been tracking a trump harris matchup. and right now the average has trump up by about two points. joining me now matt towery political analyst pollster back with me now ari fleischer, former white house press secretary and fox news contributor matt, so she's still not the nominee. she's not anointed, but now that there's a chance, do you expect these numbers to change that the race will get tighter? if indeed she is? well, they may change a little bit because she's going to have the mantle

of being the nominee. if the democrats don't have a fight with each other and then take away the opportunity for them to repackage her, which they're clearly going to have to do, i just got through polling a lot of the battleground states and i can tell you she does even worse with independents than president biden was doing. and trump's doing better with independents. now it's not a massive lead for trump, but it's a lead that's going to be the big battle for independents and also trying to gap in this enthusiasm gap. 20 points, 15 points. and a lot of these battleground states, republicans were more excited to vote in november than democrats. that's why they're doing this. they could not get their people out to the polls, and they wouldn't be able to keep their candidates running strong. and senate races and congressional races and the other down ballot races. this is why this had to happen. well the media thinks that she can pull off a victory if she picks the right running mate, suggesting that josh shapiro, going back to pennsylvania, could pull her across the finish line, writing that 47% of voters said they would vote

for her if she were running alongside the pennsylvania governor, josh shapiro, while only 46% backed trump and vanc. now, ari, i think this was a big selling point for jd vance that he could be essentially parked in western pennsylvania and the rust belt states. he has extremely strong pull with those voters. would a shapiro on that ticket give kamala a real edge there? well, i continue to think most people almost every voter votes for who's at the top, the president. it's going to be trump versus harris. for those who really are focused on who the vice president is, for every marginal pickup you might get in pennsylvania, where somebody votes for shapiro, that really gives the biden the harris ticket a big problem in michigan with the arab community. where, to put it bluntly, shapiro is a jewish candidate, and they have enough problems in michigan with the arab vote. so i don't know how that will play. i still think it's essentially a vote for the person at the top, and never a

vote for the second person. and matt, you know, the emails i was getting early this morning were those new swing state polls. and i know you were poring over these are disastrous numbers. okay. in arizona, michigan, wisconsin's tough. still it shows a dead heat, in wisconsin. but you're looking at new mexico. these are states that in pennsylvania, obviously, but you're looking at states where normally republicans would be scrambling. how does she, in any way help in those battleground states where trump is showing really strong power? i'm not sure she can. i think this is about other things beyond just battleground states. they have to get some sort of enthusiasm going. on the democratic side, i'm not sure if she can do it. the numbers that i saw and the numbers that we actually produced looked abysmal for her. and if you go back and

look at earlier polling that was done by other, other organizations earlier in the year, same numbers in the same states. now we don't like i said, she's now going to have the mantle of being the nominee, and that may bring her up a little bit, certainly in the national polls, which are very confusing because those are big blue states like california and new york. it's the battleground state polling that matters in this case. and right now she's down in it. trump just has to keep appealing to those independent voters. all right, matt and ari both of you, great to have you both on tonight. thanks so much. well this has been about the wildest eight days in american politics. we'll go back to the debate, you know, a month or so, and we're going to keep covering every aspect of it, every angle. and i want you to stay with fox news all night long for the breaking coverage. this story is going to take a lot of twists and turns before things are resolved, and i can't wait for this election. jesse's next. fox news alert president joe biden's