federal prosecutors say pakistani men with ties to the iranian government was aiming to target high-ranking u.s. officials, possibly including former president donald trump. that is where we are of the top of the new hour. welcome back, everyone i'm sandra smith in new york. john, great to be with you. >> john: great to be with you, as well, sandra. the news keeps on coming. i'm john roberts in washington, this is "america reports." prosecutors say asif merchant tried to recruit hit men in the united states, paying undercover fbi agents he thought were assassins. to carry out his nefarious plot. >> sandra: live in new york city with latest developments. what is the fbi saying? >> the fbi declined to provide an on-camera interview but pointed us to the following statement from director christopher wray. take a look up your great reads in part, "a foreign directed plot to kill a public official or any u.s. citizen is a threat to our national security and will be met with the full might

and resources of the fbi." pakistan national asif merchant visited around two weeks before coming to the united states. he is now in federal custody in new york after attempting to coordinate the assassinations of u.s. officials and politicians. >> met with several individuals with new york who he thought were with them but were in fact undercover law enforcement officers. >> sandra: anyone paid those undercover officers $5,000, you see the cash there. also sketched out several assassination scenarios on a napkin and a hotel room. code words meant to conceal his intention. t-shirt means starting a protest. that was meant to be a diversion. flannel shirt means stealing documents or usb drives from a targets home. fleece jacket was code for murdering the target. attorney general garland says this case is separate from the july 13th assassination attempt

of trump, and the former president reacted to merchant's arrest on "fox & friends" this morning. >> well, i'll tell you this. i'm in a very dangerous business. being president is a dangerous thing. especially when you are an active president, when you are somebody that wants to make our country secure, when you want to build a strong military. >> attorney general garland expects more iranian threats in the future in response to the 2020 killing of qasem soleimani, who died in a drone strike ordered by president trump. >> sandra: nick boyd on that. thank you. john? >> john: back to wisconsin larry compare of campaign rallies are kicking off. j.d. vance taking stage first and then later in the hour, hairs on her new running mate tim walz. the left wins the day with the walz picked. he's coming up next. first fox business madison alworth live in eau claire, wisconsin, for your medicine, how does it look where you are? >> john, it is crowded here with

press and with the workers at this factory. no sign of j.d. vance yet, but we do know he is here in eau claire, wisconsin, and should be taking the stage any minute now. but he has been on the attack all day long. this is just his latest stop he spent the morning in michigan, specifically going after kamala harris' vp pick, tim walz, on his first day, first full day as the choice for the democratic vp spot. he highlighted that harris and walz as one of the most progressive tickets in history. >> tim walz is a person again who promoted rioters burning down the biggest city in his state. this is a guy who wants to give drivers licenses to illegal aliens. this is a guy who wants to take children away from their parents if those parents don't consent to sacks changes for minors. this is a radical human being who comes from the far left wing of the democrat party. >> vance also went after harris for not picking battleground penciling a

governor josh shapiro, who is jewish, saying she "listens to the hamas wing of her own partyy attack dog stance, especially because as you mentioned, we are going to have dueling campaign events right here in eau claire, wisconsin. they are being held at just 6 minutes away from one another, but despite being in the same area, the events are going to look really different. both will give speeches, but only vance is expected to take questions from the press. harris has not done a single interview since biden dropped out of the race. nonetheless, she is trying to convince wisconsin voters that they should elect her in november. and the state is very much in play for both sides be a delayed of fox news power rankings shows that out of the most competitive states, wisconsin is a toss-up. both campaigns are going to be making their case here in the net lay, trying to lock in those voters for november. john? >> john: and i predict that you are going to be making the drive between eau claire and msp airport many, many times in the months ahead.

madison, thank you. sandra? >> sandra: john, let's bring mark steyn it's, former clinton advisor. why won't she give an interview? press conference, answer some questions? >> well, i thick it's pretty obvious. i think that biden's first campaign had a successful strategy of avoiding interviews and controlling the message, and i think the same advisors are bringing out the same playbook, and so far it's working. she is going up in the polls, and the press is not forced her to answer any questions outside of her program speeches, and she is doing a good job at that. >> sandra: at some point don't voters need to know what she needs to do she plans to win the white house? in all reality, mark, i have been saying this for a couple days now, you go to the kamalaharris.com website, and there is nothing there, take the economy, for example, how does she plan to fix high prices and inflation >> president biden: you write this, mark.

the left wins the day as josh shapiro is spurned for the choice of bernie sanders were vp. no surprise, really, you write, the surprise would have been reading out to moderate voters, reassuring jewish voters and bringing all democrats together. sounds like you are not a fan of the choice, mark. >> i was disappointed by the choice be a wet end of the day, willie vp choice really matter? it sort of matters this week p or g had a choice. shapiro had the backing of a lot of moderate democrats and would have been seen as a move toward the moderate center. clearly the choice she made his bernie sanders choice, and look, again, biden won by doubling down with the left, and so far you are seeing a campaign, you interviews, control the message, double down on the base. their attitude isn't one last time. it will win again. >> sandra: josh holmes joined us earlier today on "newsroom, the former mitch mcconnell chief of staff. and he called her out for the

lack of messaging on policy. listen. >> you listen to what they said, there is not a single position they held to outline in that entire rally, kept it entirely concealed from the american people which tells you the long-term goal is they think they can get by with vibes, intuition, and magic. >> sandra: so to his point, this is may be still the honeymoon period back. that strategy last, mark? >> i am used to campaigns where there are three debates, where there are policy papers. where candidates don't go a day without meeting with a gaggle of press that follows them. those apparently are the old days, and i think it's going to be up to the voters to decide whether they know enough or whether or not they have learned from social media or the press. boy, when i ran campaigns come if we didn't go down every other day, the press would go nuclear at us. but it is a strategy that is working so far, you've got to

admit that. >> sandra: the far left loves it. we have seen aoc, ilhan omar are thrilled about it and so is nancy pelosi. she said this today on the magic of this ticket. >> this is kamala harris' choice, she will be elected president of the united states not a question of who can help you win, it is who can help you lead, and guide the country into the future. and the combination has a certain magic to it. none of the other candidates who were still in their show a great bench in the democratic party ao forward. >> sandra: it's not about if you can win, it's about if you can lead. we won't know if she is capable of that until perhaps she starts answering some questions. it's a point were harping on, right? we don't see an unscripted kamala harris, mark penn, we are about to see her talk again, likely on a teleprompter. we have seen it already set up. when did she go off script and

take some is a big question right now? final question for you. the anti-semitism of her pick, if you can clear the air on this, because we are about to hear from j.d. vance, as well. he said this yesterday, why he things anti-semitism in the democrat party played a role in harris not picking the pennsylvania governor. shapiro. listen. >> there were multiple grassroots activists and media personalities and people with influence in the democratic party who suggested that she should not choose josh shapiro because of his ethnic background. the fact that so many remnant leaders in the far left felt empowered to talk about shapiro's ethnic heritage is a disgrace and i thick it is a scandal for the democrat party. >> sandra: i'll let you respond to that, mark. >> well, look, i don't know what really was the motivation for this pick. she says it's because she had a better relationship with governor walz. maybe that's just the case. i do know, if she had picked shapiro, that would have been a

very strong statement, that somebody who is making history would be making history again with the first successful, if they win, you know, jewish vice president, and she declined to take that step. in terms of her motivation, not going to speculate, he doesn't know, i don't know, let's give her the benefit of the doubt that she made an honest decision. >> sandra: mark from all is good to have you on. thank you for joining us. we are waiting for that live event with, harris shortly, see what she has to say. they sojourning our spirit >> thank you. >> sandra: john, the pressure is sort of building on the part of the republican campaign, right? j.d. vance earlier today why is kamala not out there, giving interviews, not taking question from reporters? that pressure probably will continue to grow as she goes on in this campaign. >> john: j.d. vance did a gaggle aboard his plane yesterday, took questions at another event yesterday. donald trump is all over the place doing interviews. and yet we haven't heard anything from the

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rocket attack at a base in iraq. iranian-backed militants are responsible. all of this as iran escalates and fears of a wider war on the rise. >> we certainly don't want to see any sort of all-out regional war. and there is not a whole lot of indications that other parties here want to see the same thing. which is why we are working really, really hard, with intense diplomacy, to try to avoid an escalation. can't predict that we are going to be 100% successful in that. >> john: let's bring in james carafano, senior counselor the heritage foundation and retired army lieutenant colonel. so the white house, john kirby indicated, going all out to try to dial back tensions and convinced t the iran not to attk israel. hears with the secretary of state says. >> further attacks only increase the risk of dangerous outcomes that no one can predict and no one can fully control. it's urgent that everyone in the region take stock of the

situation, understand the risks of miscalculation, and make decisions that will calm tensions, not exacerbate them. >> john: so as john kirby said, doesn't know that they are going to be 100% successful but it does raise questions as to what the biden hand administration is offering iran to climb down from precipice? >> american diplomacy has a half-life of an ice cube on the ground. it is all blah blah and should be completely ignored. here is what people really have to think about. one is you've got half or more of the six fleets sitting out there. the iranians had to ask, what's that for? that could shoot down stuff. they could shoot down targets in syria and iran and other places, so that iran understands. they don't understand blob law, but they understand big aircraft carriers. the other thing is what the israelis already have said, they don't want war. they are very surgical, very strategic, very proportional strike, and the israelis want a

fight, they would have unloaded on these guys. and the third thing is you have to look at it, this is not a free lunch. hamas ten times the military of hezbollah, ten times the military of hamas. if they wanted to pick a war, they probably should have done that when israel was bogged down in gaza. they are not now so they are going to get the full force of that retaliation. lebanon is a basket case. that country is going to fall apart if a war starts. iran, okay, you can unload on israel come israel come and unload on, can't find a conclusive war. what's going to happen on day one of the war? the israelis will go after every single command and control target in iran and destroy the capacity to control the country, take out your infrastructure, then they are going to go after your nuclear sites. and all for an inconclusive war, and if there's anything we know from the israelis, they know how to be resilient and survive and fight back. >> john: not only resilient, but as you pointed out, pinpoint attacks.

they got ismail haniyeh in an ir gc compound right under the noses of the iranian leadership at a very crucial time when he was meeting with the new president, just met with the ayatollah. "the wall street journal" was suggesting that if iran and hezbollah went in on a coordinated attack, it would be very difficult for israel. said "iran has drones and ballistic missiles and iron dome isn't designed to stop and hezbollah tens of thousands of mortars, rockets, precision guided missiles that could threaten to overwhelm the country's defenses. and if they both went at the same time, i think the u.s. and israel and other allies in the gulf region right be hard-pressed to shoot it all down. >> absolutely. and they are going to hit israel, and they're going to hurt the israelis. but the israelis are going to unleash everything on iran and on hezbollah. and as we saw with the strike against the houthis, they went thousands of miles not with an

airplane but with an air armada, they are going to do that and there is not a target in iran that they can't reach. this will be, if you want a war, israel will give them everything they ask for, and then the question if you are iran is, what are you going to get out of this? you're going to kill a lot of israelis. what are you going to lose? the command and control of your entire country, probably lose your infrastructure. everybody that has ever wanted to take your government down is going to say maybe this is it. look at what is going on in venezuela, which is an iranian ally, and puppet, and we have seen the green revolution, this stuff can be contagious, so what is happening in venezuela, maybe that will spread to iran. the stakes are really freaking high. >> john: something people in the middle east and lebanon are talking about, maybe what iran is doing is playing for time, very coy, within weeks of a nuclear breakout and once it gets a nuclear wea weapon, that will

completely change the equation. >> that i think, if i were around -- there are times i'm wrong, right? when i am wrong is when people do the reckless, stupid think your guy just say nobody would do that, and they do it anyway. i have been wrong. if they were smart, they would say forget about all of this apocalypse war with israel, which is going to get them nowhere, and what they would do is wait a couple of weeks and just acquiring nuclear breakout. maybe they can't fire a nuclear weapon at israel tomorrow, but nobody is going to pay attention to that. they're going to pay attention that iran is a declared nuclear power, the biden administration will be deer in the headlights, the worst-case scenario is it will be months before president trump comes into office and will have to deal with it. >> john: i want to ask you about this elevation of yahya sinwar, the head of hamas in gaza, to the political leader of hamas, here is what israel said about it. the election of yahya sinwar must send a clear message that the palestinian issue is

completely controlled by hamas and iran. the world must see a reality as it is in support israel at the front of the battle against iranian extremist islamist access. the architect of october 7th is now the political leader of hamas. i mean, that completely erases any pretense that hamas had to be anything other than a terrorist organization through and through. >> here's what it tells me. they are running out of people. no, i'm serious. >> john: i guess. israel has taken a lot of players out of the game. >> who's going to be in charge? who is left alive that everybody knows? that is where we are with hamas. >> john: interesting to see how he runs the cease-fire talks from a bunker. other people running countries from bunkers, so we will see. >> you know, people make these decisions and go down these roads, and you have to go, where does this end? when heavy strategy that doesn't end. the strategy was the world will come to our rescue. the protests we are funding over

the world will drive the israelis to quit, and that ain't working. >> john: the israelis slowly taking out their leadership seems to be putting a lot of pressure on them. james, great to see you after so many world travels come appreciate it. >> thank you p >> sandra: all right, john john, a federal judge with harvard speech of a fire over anti-semitism on campus. a lawsuit moving forward, dealing a major blow to the ivy league school. why? where does this case go from here? we will ask beard >> john: plus harvey davidson known for its rebel image but one conservative activist claims the company is going woke. our panel of taylor riggs and jackie deangelis wrap it up coming up next.

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alexis, what's next in the case? >> hi, john. this case will be back in court later this summer but we have been talking about this for months, and it hasn't been just harvard university. harvard has tried for months to get this case dropped. a judge saying no way that's going to happen. one of the students from harvard is saying the university in this legal battle is just shining a light on a bigger problem. >> hypocrisy of the double standard of the ephrata summit is a is there from day one and every day since it has been another scandal, another story, another way where harvard gaslight its jewish student population. >> back in january, six jewish students at harvard filed this lawsuit its plan and they just safe on campus because the school didn't do enough to stop anti-semitism. the lawsuit claims the ivy league school didn't public know might punish students, didn't punish teachers who led those protest that some considered anti-semitic. they set up those in encampments and the students felt there waso recourse for what is going on. a judge finding evidence harvard failed its jewish students.

for months, harvard tried to get this thing dropped, explaining they couldn't break up those campus protests because it would have "violated students first amended rights," so as they continue this long legal battle, harvard telling fox news in part, this: harvard is confident that once the facts of the case are made clear it will be evident that we acted fairly and with deep concern for supporting our jewish and israeli students. but harvard students behind this lawsuit say that is not good enough. >> but the idea that harvard has lifted a finger to do anything to combat the pervasive nature of anti-semitism at its university and on campus is simply not true and they know that. >> so on it goes. other schools were hit with similar lawsuits just last month, nyu and columbia settled, so we will have to see what happens. >> john: keep watching, alexis mcadams in new york. sandra quest my >> sandra: as thousands of bikers descended on sturgis south dakota for the moe rally, harvey davidson facing

backlash. the rough and tough company going woke, and progressive policies and dei. post catching the attention of elon musk, who rode on x, doesn't sound super compatible with their customers beard fox news has reached out to harley-davidson and has not heard back. if we get anything like that during this segment we will put it on the screen, but it is not the first time that corporate america is getting called out for this. let's bring in taylor riggs and jackie deangelis, cohost of the big-money show on fox business. important to reiterate these are only allegations at this point. serious stuff, especially considering this is a public traded company, taylor. first reaction to it? >> i think my reaction overall, given we are on a business show, companies have a fiduciary duty to their shareholders to do what is right for the company. making money. being loyal to their customers. helping shareholders make money, give them good guidance for what

the future look like eared when inflation is high and their customers are struggling, that's not the time to go woke. that is for any company, right? your fiduciary duty is to stay true to your customer and be laser focused on your mission of running a company, leaving all of the other nonsense or political stuff on the side. run your company, stay focused on your business. >> sandra: you have the fiduciary duty. that is it purely could have stopped at that. at this is the case, it's a big "if," but your thoughts, jackie? >> i look at history and how well as it served other companies? taylor and i have covered this on our show for quite some time. a company like anheuser-busch with the bud light controversy. didn't work that well for them. tractor supply initiated dei policies and now has backed off of it and come out and said we are not doing this anymore because it didn't work for us. you have to know your customer and this goes back to what taylor is saying. if you want sale sales and revenue for y your company, you

have to know your customer. you should be politically neutral as a company, and not really express an opinion at all. but at the end of the day, think about anheuser-busch, tractor supply, and harley-davidson, if this story is true, and i haven't been able to verify these claims. if it is true, this is not a customer that is going to go for this woke stuff, and i have to put my friend charlie charlie gasparino's -- not good for business. >> sandra: fox digital was able to talk to some folks at the rally. here is some of what they heard be acquitted branding suicide, one rally goer said. a lot of bikers are switching over to indian. they killed harley, it breaks my heart, says vinnie terranova, the owner of vintage cycles in sturgis south dakota. okay. said this on x, get back on mission, harley-davidson, he calls them out as the vice chair of the congressional motorcycle

caucus, motorcycles are about freedom to ride without listen to a bunch of politicized garbage. >> your classic northstar, know your customer. who at anheuser-busch, who would target, who at tractor supply, who at perhaps harley-davidson, think that any of this is a good idea, if it pushes your customer away had isolates or customer, going to see a drop in sales and revenue. the whole point of a ceo, a board of directors, know your customer, you serve them. you serve your shareholders, as well come in terms of talking about making money, serve your shareholders by serving your customer first, customer has to be your priority. if you don't know who your customer is and you are gallivanting in other areas, that you have sort of lost your way. >> sandra: oftentimes this is due to poor leadership and apparently there has been concerned, a german-born ceo took over during the pandemic in 2020. people have been concerned about his leadership of the company

and apparently not harley-davidson's are fetching a lot less money. >> they are appeared >> sandra: $30,000 into charlie going for a few thousand going to fox digital. >> you thing about european countries and what their ideology is, bringing potentially some of that ideology to the harley-davidson brand and it is costing them money and the decline in the prices of what they are selling right now i think really speak . i was watching "the last dance," when michael jordan, they talk about him, the fact he never got political because he said republicans by sneakers, too, and they sure do. >> sandra: i don't know, harley? this is an iconic brand. wouldn't it take more than this? i don't know, can they bounce back from it if this is the case? >> yeah. i mean, look, tractor supply, target, anheuser-busch, in many ways they haven't fully recovered but they are trying. jackie and i have talked a lot about this on our program. as long as you take ownership, we lost our way, back to being

focused on our customer, who is our customer is, focused on our job for you, there is a chance and you have to come out of say that. >> quickly i will add, anheuser-busch pivoted with, they didn't save me a call book, you have to own it. you make a mistake, you have to own it. >> sandra: appreciate this discussion. see if we get a statement from harley-davidson on that. john? >> john: sandra, the nation just getting to know minnesota governor tim walz and his far left policies are raising eyebrows. >> sandra: minnesota state representative lisa duluth, your disastrous record, others have a much different take. >> he may have a very progressive governing record, but he reads moderate. >> i think tim walz is a younger, in that sense, a younger version of joe biden. very much in the mainstream liberal lane of the party. >> to characterize him as left

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what does his record tell us about the policies they will pursue? >> sandra, three things, voting, money, endorsements, support from special interest groups. walz supports union organizing him a $15 wage, environmental, as a governor, gender-affirming care for transgender kids, legalizing recreational marijuana abortion with no restrictions until birth, free college for less than $80,000, employer paid family and medical leave, 100% clean energy by 2040. he has also supported sanctuary cities, citizenship for dreamers, driver's license and taxpayer-funded health care for illegal immigrants, voting against increased penalties for criminal aliens, posing a border wall, even joking about helping immigrants enter illegally. >> he talks about this wall. i always say, let mean how high

it is. if it is 25 feet than i will invest in a 30-foot ladder factory. that is not how you stop this. >> walz ran six times for congers, raising $22 million, largest donor workplace. as for special interest, walz gets 100% rating from planned parenthood, 86% from the cr club, and the center for biodiversity which opposes and litigates almost any development on public lands. he opposed the trump tax cuts, but he backed big government spending, said watchdog groups, 19% rating from the national taxpayers union, 10% from the club for growth he gets high marks from eat green energy groups like the league of conservation voters, and low mas for mining and petroleum groups. 92% approval rating from the aclu. and a f from the nra for his support of universal background checks and red flags law. bottom line, sandra, that's the record. let's see how they campaign

peered back to you >> sandra: william la jeunesse on that. thank you. >> john: vice president harris time to paint her new running mate is a down-to-earth teacher and coach. the minnesota state representative lisa demuth says they need to know tim walz's record. nancy pelosi says all this talk of him being left-wing, he is a right down the middle democrat. >> here in minnesota -- thank you so much, john, it is an honor to be with you and have this conversation peered in minnesota, what we have seen of governor walz is a far left grandma know my democrat. he is progressive. he has time to take our state, which he has done, to a place it never should have been. it is very concerning he would push forward these far extreme policies now onto our nation. and that goes with financial, how he has wasted $18 billion of surplus in the state. we have record levels of fraud.

our students in k-12, those grades, they are doing worse under governor walz, and he let minneapolis burn. >> john: we are going to hear from walz in a few minutes when he opens up for kamala harris in eau claire, wisconsin. we are also going to hear from j.d. vance, who this morning said this about the governor. >> tim walz is a person who promoted rioters burning down the biggest city in his state. this is a guy who wants to give drivers licenses to illegal aliens. this is a guy who wants to take children away from their parents if those parents don't consent to sex changes for minors. this is a radical human being who comes from the far left wing of the democratic party. >> john: you know, earlier today we heard from greg urban, who was a business owner there in minnesota, had to close down his business because of what happened in the wake of the 2020. is j.d. vance accurate in his description? >> you know what, we just heard from katie grants describing the policies will governor walz has done, that is absolutely nonpartisan, that is incredible

he accurate. covid, governor walz shut our state down, he shut down churches, shutdown schools, actually enacted a snitch line for neighbors that actually snitch on their neighbors if they saw them either gathering or going places that they shouldn't have. it was complete control. he had actually campaigned on one minnesota. what we didn't know is it ended up being one controlled minnesota by governor walz. this is not good for our state, and i'm grateful that now on a national platform people are becoming aware of what we have experienced here in minnesota. >> john: he is making no apologies for pursuing the policies that he has. listen to what he has said in the past. >> don't ever shy away from our progressive values. one person socialism is another person's neighborliness. just do the speech when he five work. >> john: don't shy away from our progressive values, one persons socialism is another person's neighborliness. there is no apology there. he is proud of what he has accomplished. >> he has been very proud of it.

what you will hear his great sound bikes. great things about what he things he has pushed through. i would tell you, again, $18 billion of surplus completely spent, not returned to the taxpayers. $10 billion spent, and increased our state budget. we know all 134 seats of our house of representatives are up for election. we are doing everything we can as house republicans to bring balance back into the legislature, to stop the most concerning things that governor walz has done to our state and wants to continue to do. they are not done with our partisan priorities. now that he is on the most extreme ticket for the presidential race between harris and walz, it is the most extreme ticket in history. this is not good. we know, as minnesotans, for our state, definitely not good for our country. >> john: so let's look at the bigger picture here. it is not like donald trump was at any risk of winning minnesota this november.

it's been solidly democratic since 1976. harris did not pick him as her running late to buttress the 10,000 lakes. what do you think he could have an effect more broadly in the midwest? >> he comes across as very friendly, and like i said, he campaigned earlier on wanting to bring people together and be all part of one, but what we saw is depending on the audience that he is in front of or who supports him, he will change. you saw that video you just did where he is using language that he typically wouldn't use. we know paired with vice president harris and the far left and what they want to do and push forward, we know that is concerning, and i don't know why she picked him, but he is not, you know, hey, here for everybody, great minnesota guy, this is what we do here. he does not stand for core principles, concerning values, giving people the opportunity to succeed in their lives, businesses to succeed and have e freedom we all enjoy in this country, he would push us to a

place that would be damaging. >> john: a lot of people wondering why she picked him, particularly some democrats who thought shapiro would have been a better pick, but that ship has sailed. we will see if it shales into choppy waters or it will be smooth sailing. lisa demuth, great to catch up with you, thank you so much. sandra? >> sandra: we know college tuitions continue to skyrocket. republic and lawmakers hope to change that by holding universities accountable. will tell you how an. ugh, when is my allergy spray going to kick in? -you need astepro. -astepro? it's faster, bro. 8x faster than flonase. it's faster, bro!

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from the media? >> john: all right, that was a few moments ago at the tarmac at eau claire, wisconsin, is j.d. vance in a rather cheeky move went over with his secret service detail to check out air force two. which was right there on the tarmac. we do not know if kamala harris was aboard at the time. you hurt him they're saying just wanted to check out my new plane, and ask the vice president why she is avoiding the press whereas he and former president donald trump are talking to the press every opportunity they get. >> sandra: the full camera shot, we heard it and it happened just a short time ago. adding to that, vance also sent governor walz returned his phone call, but apparently vance missed the call. walz did leave a voice mail thanking vance for his call yesterday, saying he appreciated it and he looks forward to debating him, so that's what we have and that just happened. ju>> john: small the political world is, 50 states and territories, and this comes down, this race, seven states, o

candidates on opposing sides of the political fence in the same place at the same time. >> sandra: all right, we are still waiting on kamala harris. she is about to speak sometime soon. we will be listening for that as education costs or, pushing no the student debt crisis. a bill targeting university endowments. david spunt is on this live from washington. hello, david. >> hey, sandra, this is interesting. one member of congress is introducing a bold proposal to introduce taxes on your verses with large endowments. the commerce men from ohio, schools with large endowments are taking -- increasing tuition at a breakneck pace peered currently universities with endowments $500,000 per student are subject to federal taxes on their profits. joyce, who would cut that threshold and half to $250,000, taking the tax from 1.4% to 10% on the schools, the tax would

double 20% of schools increase tuition faster than inflation over a three-year period. >> i think you've got to get universities to have more skin in the game so therefore they have more interest in making sure their person actually gets the degree. it's one thing to get the money, they go there and have a great time and never get the degree and leave, and then the american taxpayers are stuck if the person doesn't repay it. >> meanwhile the vice president and her new running mate governor walz, white boy student debt. watch. >> a ticket for education, not crippling debt. >> noncritics say vp harris is just trying to get votes but allies say she deserves credit for inking outside the box and helping millions of students wipe away some of that debt, a topic we will hear the next few months peered >> sandra: we will, indeed. david, great to see you in person.

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[ ♪♪ ] >> john: looking live in eau claire, wisconsin as kamala harris and her running mate tim walz will very soon be appearing for a rally at the same time not too far away, the vise presidential nominee for the trump campaign, jd vance will be holding a competing rally. sandra it is so tight are there in wisconsin it's hard to watch anything between rallies before they are busy and we are covering it, there was a busy two hours we will see whether remarks are there, the countries watching closely. set your dvr and never ms. miss america reports, i am sandra smith. >> john: time flies when you're having fun! we will have more fun again tomorrow. 'the story' starts right now, trays gallagher is in for marth. >> trace: good