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>> emily: hello, everyone. this is "outnumbered." i'm emily compagno here is my coasts, harris faulkner and kayleigh mcenany. also joining us, host of "american dream home" on fox business, cheryl ca and to casone, and palmyra outlining his you for the country, while we are still waiting to hear from kamala harris. the sat down with elon musk for a wide-ranging interview. we talked about the economy, education, artificial intelligence, and our broken southern border. watch. >> there's never been a country in history that is headed catastrophe like this. we have a defective government. millions of people are coming in a month, and then she tries to

pretend like she's going to do something. she had three and half years. by the way, they have another five months they can do something. but they won't do anything. it is all talk. >> emily: trump also talked about the impact of inflation on everyday americans. >> if you are a middle income person, you can't afford -- four, five years ago, people we are saving a lot of money. today they are using all their money and borrowing money just to live. it's a horrible thing that's happening. >> emily: and trump is out with this, a 20-point list of "core promises" to the american people if he retakes the white house. and the trump campaign launched this new ad. >> on november fifth, 2024, justice will be done. we will take back our country and we will make america great again.

>> emily: palm oil, there was a lot of content covered by those gentlemen, and a lot of content and pulsate put front policy put forth. see five we are not getting content from the other side. i've got to quote the babylon bee. [laughter] >> harris: oh, boy. >> paul: let me an office so i can fix things, she is currently in office. aat what point are you going to start? we will hold your coat. go ahead. you are the border czar right now. go ahead. realistically she has promised to kill things. when she stole from trump, the tip thing. everything we should recognize his reporting out from the "washington examiner" that shows she and her husband donated thousands of dollars last year to not only defund a sanctuary city group that wants to turn washington, d.c., into a pepermit sanctuary city.

the border czar wants our capital to permanently be a sanctuary city. see to it tells you a lot in contrast to the trump campaign that outlines and keeps hammering what happened with sanctuary city policies. bring up everyday americans impacted by these policies, negatively, is the point. they covered a lot of stuff and we have yet to hear from the existing vice president, in all of her years of service, holding these hats. what are her accomplishments? >> harris: she is messing with something pretty difficult. he knew a gentleman in the ad we showed. she used an image of a current border patrol sheriff in an ad. he said he wouldn't vote for her in any office, and listed the reasons why he's done nothing to help us. they are on the front lines of all of this. she politically needs to be very careful with this issue. very. if there is no daylight -- and we know that, because the campaign told media that today, that there is no daylight

between her and joe biden. she owns the border. he put her in charge, he has never announced she is not in charge even though she failed. what kind of boss do you have? you fail miserably and he doesn't even hold you accountable? anybody can keep her job, apparently. in the meanwhile, that means she could still be giving her job. so why isn't she making, as paul said, quoting the babylon bee -- why isn't she making those changes now? imagine what a talking point that would be on the trail. you know why? she doesn't believe in them. if she ever did, we don't know, because she didn't do anything. >> emily: it leads to a lot of questions, kayleigh, that americans have come and people on the world stage have. >> kayleigh: that's right. that's one of the things i was so interested in, how you have foreign leaders trying to stop president trump from talking for two hours about policy. and that's what he did. incredible. two hours about policy. kamala harris has a stump speech that she puts out, he puts out tweets, that's about it. here's what was interesting to

me. this morning i woke up and thought about this, something i had read in the politico playbook yesterday. here it is. this is doug emhoff, the second gentleman, kamala's has been. "i cannot tell you --" he said, about his trip to the olympics, not even 24 hours into his paris trip -- "how many leaders have whispered to me, thank you, you need to win." a foreign leaders are whispering to doug emhoff that they need to win, and this headline comes days after he's in paris for the olympics? "europe pressures musk to curb hate speech ahead of trump interview?" talking about balancing freedom of expression and being responsible, i wonder where these foreign leaders were with the hunter biden laptop. where were they when "the new york post" was kicked off social media? they were silent. they want to kamala to win and now they are using their foreign influence in the united states election? hmm.

>> emily: cheryl, here's the thing. let's give the vice president grace for a second. it is foreign to me, they'll try it. if she is sitting there existing, perhaps he does need to articulate her vision for america because it is simply what we are living. but that still is in stark contrast to this articulable vision put forth by the trump campaign and covered in to you-hour conversation, point by point, covering inflation and the economy and things we are facing every day. the contrast at a minimum would simply be your everyday life right now to the vision painted by trump for the future. >> cheryl: let's talk about that. i'm glad you brought that up, emily. let's talk about lowering the corporate tax even further. the biden administration wants to jack it up. these tax cuts are set to expire next year, the trump tax cuts. they want to make sure they expire and they want to jump taxes up on every day americans. let's talk about the oil and gas industry. president trump wants to make the oil and gas industry -- to make the nation the biggest energy producer in the world. we were on our way, and the

first thing biden did when he came into office was they shut down the pipelines, they started to add more regulation to the epa on oil and gas companies, et cetera, et cetera. and one more thing we haven't talked about enough, that is the nation's debt right now. the editorial board at the journal writes, "whistling past a $1.9 trillion federal deficit. if trump won't press hairs on also awesome at spending, the nobody will." he said dumb i got to start bringing that up on the campaign trail. we are sitting on $1.9 trillion and it's getting worse and worse, and that the burden we are leaving on our children and grandchildren. so let's talk about issues and policy, and let's talk money. i'm ready to talk about money. >> emily: a quick final point to you, paul. when cheryl says let's talk about money and policies, but i appreciate about trump's point is they are easy to read and believe and get. cancel the electrical vehicle mandate and cut these costly regulations. there's no details and specifics that americans get mired in. it is quick and easy and to the

point, and is also voluminous. he covers a lot of ground. as we covered on "outnumbered" yesterday, when you go to kamala's website, there's a million pages to donate but no pages on policy. >> paul: we are on our fourth year of our first date with kamala. we don't quite know what we are getting yet. >> harris: we are picking up the bill. >> paul: last quick point, a policy issue she has got to finesse is still going to be israel. what do i mean by that? you got the dnc, they'll be protesting like crazy. but you're also going to get them -- and they've already said it -- in the fall semester. those same colleges are going to be dealing with that same issue. she owns that. that could be the october surprise. >> kayleigh: she wants a cease-fire. >> emily: will americans be allowed to keep their health care plans under a harris-walz administration? if you went off the vp's past statements, no. we will discuss, next. ♪ ♪

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>> if you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan. period. >> harris: that was former president barack obama, and his infamous line pitching obamacare in 2008. he planned -- his plan, i should say, ignited angry town halls like this one in pennsylvania. >> i don't care, to stuff it in your pocket so that you can cheat the citizens of this country, so i will leave and you can do whatever the hell you please to do. one day god is going to stand

before you and he is going to judge you and the rest of your damn cronies up on the hill. and then you will get your just desserts. i'm leaving. >> okay, okay. we have just had a demonstration of democracy. >> harris: what we had there was a whole lot of the truth. couldn't you just feel his passion and all of that? wow. could that happen all over again? could people lose their health care or at least hear they're going to lose their health care? could those fears become real if kamala harris wins the white house? that's the question. her last presidential policy position stated this. remember, she has run before, so this is previously when she ran. she said health care should be a right, not a privilege, only for those who can afford it. it's why we need medicare for

all. she was even one of the few democratic candidates to raise her hand when asked if she supported that far left policy. watch and remember. >> who here would abolish the private health insurance in favor of a government run plan? all right. [applause] >> harris: you saw it, right? imagine losing your health care, and she said it on camera when asked about it at different events. yeah, that is exactly what she's talking about. i could feel the power of that man who was so afraid that was going to happen. >> emily: and the terrifying part, harris, amidst her flip-flopping, she has acknowledged and said some salient points that i think ring true. part of them -- because she went on to blame donald trump for things, but in 2019 she said one of the problems with politics is that it often demands 62nd sound bites or slogans to answer

complex questions. she went on to say the health care issue is in fact complex and deserves a complex response. but the reality is i'm sure it was written by someone else, because we have yet to hear from her any type of commensurate plan or policy. i want to point out something. we know that she signed on to senator bernie sanders' medicare for all health care plan and the like, but as we talk about her designation as the most radical liberal left senator, the result of that is that she will not sign on to any bipartisan legislature. the pragmatic effect of that is her as a senator and as vice president means she will never come to a compromise, she will stick to the sound bites and slogans, whatever to get elected, that will not serve the american people for the ones that actually need to cut their pills in half, for the ones that actually have to deal with the impact of her policies that she did to get a couple votes. >> harris: they are still cutting their pills in half, because the pandemic put us in a way that many of the health care services and people in that

field have left. many of the doctors and nurses. they are still doing it, and we all feel the impact of that. talk to me about money and her idea, cheryl. >> cheryl: we can't afford it pages already come out and said that she is no longer for medicare for all. that's one of the flip-flops. >> harris: do you know how much video there is? >> cheryl: it's going to get played over and over, but there are other things she could propose that will be just as concerning from a financial standpoint. one thing they could do is expand medicaid, they could do that. they could lower the age for medicare. two costly actions. they could create a public option. these are all offshoots building on the affordable care act, which we used to call obamacare. which, by the way, is very expensive. even if you have the affordable care act right now, you're still paying over $500 if you're 40 years old for that coverage every month. it's over $700 if you are 50. and a lot of people still can't afford that. we spend 70% of gdp just to flip

the affordable care act today. >> harris: a little bring the prices down. >> cheryl: 56% of working age people are on private insurance plans. nobody wants to give up their private insurance plans. that burned obama, remember. "you like your plan, you can keep it," and that ended up not being so. so it's -- >> harris: a critically important neighbor you gave us. 56% of people past retirement age to have their own health care. >> cheryl: 56% of working age individuals. >> harris: that's an even bigger number! >> cheryl: it is gigantic. >> harris: people have pre-existing conditions, they have things going on. you might want to keep your doctor. and certainly if you are about to retire, you definitely want to keep that doctor. paul? >> paul: all i know is this -- when the left starts framing anything as a human right, reach for your wallet. because everything is a human right. it is housing, it is medical

care, it is food. if you encapsulate all of the things, what you get to her all the reasons you go to work. if all of those things are a human right, why leave the house? they gave you a house, they gave you food, they give you medical costs. and the things that americans resent about this is how coercive it is. once they get you into the tent, whatever version of it they get you in on, it is a way to control you. if you don't believe that some of the characters in the federal government are going to use the fact that they might control health care as a way to coerce you into doing what they want, just consider crossfire hurricane, 51 intel officials who lied to us about the laptop, et cetera, et cetera. i don't buy it. it's a way for them to control things, and it takes the invisible hand of adam smith, capitalism, out of the mix when that invisible hand is a clenched fist knocking on the head and saying you're going to do what we tell you. >> harris: she picked the

perfect partner in minnesota governor tim walz, according to reports of his past. because those lockdowns were really tough on that state. they were tough on everybody, but they hurt businesses in droves in his state. >> kayleigh: kamala harris was a cosponsor of medicare for all, and medicare for all, let us be clear, means working health care for none. that is the slogan. if you want a slogan, that's the slogan. medicare for all, health care for none. look what the government has done with anything they've been involved in. "cash for clunkers," department of veteran affairs, the mess we have seen the make of each and every federal program they have tried to run. and that's before we get to cost. $32 trillion. the counsel of economic advisors under president trump estimated it would it amount to 70% decrease in household income. that means $17,000 out of your wallet per year. guess what? in vermont they tried this, they were trying to do this medicare for all in bernie's home state, and all the sudden when people realized it would be 10% of their payroll they said, no, not for me.

so bad health care, reduce your paycheck by 10%. >> harris: i'm going to ask our team in the booth to roll this, kamala harris 2019, asking about including illegals. just watch. we leave it here. >> raise your hand if your government plan would provide coverage for undocumented immigrants. >> harris: just wanted to put that into the mix, because all that counts. the money you are spending has to benefit you in some way, your tax dollars, not just what their policies are. by the way, i called them hard-line liberal policies. scrutiny for ties to a muslim cleric who celebrated hamas' october 7th attack on israel. details next. is a walk in the park. get fast, all-day relief of your worst allergy symptoms like nasal congestion. (♪) live claritin clear.

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who defended hamas' october 7th attack on israel. mike tobin is live in chicago with more details. make? >> thank you, kayleigh. the "washington examiner" drummed up a video from 2 2018 n which a then-candidate walz calls this imam a master teacher. we saw more appearances with governor walz in 2019, january, april, and may. he delivers an invocation of the state address. he is the executive director of the muslim american society of minnesota. the walz team, if they had done background, they would find out that he posted a link to a pro-hitler propaganda movie called "the greatest story never told." he appeared with governor wells in may of 2020 calling for calm in the george floyd riots, and in 2023 following a string of vandalism at mosques. the middle east forum says governor walz has been willfully ignorant of the radicalism because he relies on the arab or

muslim voting bloc and cannot do anything that would make him appear islamophobic. >> this is a serious problem. under a walz-harris ticket, given walz's ability to embrace really just the worst kind of radicals within the muslim community, one can only imagine this would be replicated at the white house. walz clearly doesn't want to know about this extremism. >> records we have tracked down shows the muslim american society of minnesota has received grants totaling at least $123 starting in the year 2021 through the next fiscal year. a reporter from the "washington examiner" says the united arab emirates designated that has a terrorist organization back in 2014 and that federal prosecutors described the muslim american society as a direct arm of the muslim brotherhood. the same muslim brotherhood that assassinated anwar sadat and gave birth to hamas. just a short time ago we heard from the harris-walz campaign.

their statement reads, "governor walz does not have a relationship with him," meaning in mom zaman, "and governor walz strongly condemns terrorism." >> kayleigh: walz is facing serious questions about his relationship with that cleric you heard mike talk about, and about his military record. but walz hasn't said one word on any of this despite growing calls for him to speak out. emily, it is stunning. he has several meetings with this individual. this guide posted a link to this film, this controversial film, back in 2015. but yet he has seen him multiple times since then? tim walz is a radical. >> emily: i think that is so disturbing and what taxpayers need to hold dear. the salient point there was a mere simple background check -- not even a background check, just a simple look into this guy come that would reveal that he posted a link to hitler's writings. the whole point is, if you had done a bit of due diligence, you would see that you are fostering

a relationship with an absolute extremist, a radical, filled with hate and anti-semitism. the point is that there isn't a divorce, a not a tepid relationship. it is robust. five appearances, he gave one of the invocations when walz got the state position, and the fact that his admin's ration donated $100 -- where is that money from connect the administration has no income. we need to remember that. so any source of income for the government means you. anyone watching from minnesota today, understand that your money went to this radical group that has ties to extreme radicals as prosecutors have confirmed. the fact that walz statement is a simple condemnation of hamas attacks, rightly so, that you missed the point. you absolutely miss the point that you are fomenting a relationship with someone who is deeply radical and deeply dangerous, and that is where the questions lay.

>> kayleigh: you have this imam and radicals in congress like ilhan omar. we will see if she keeps her seat tonight, among others. progressive national security professionals are already angling for positions in a possible kamala harris administration, hoping to steer the white house in a different direction on israel and other issues largely shut out under joe biden. some progressive activists plan to draft lists of people harris could hire in the national security counsel and the department of defense. could we see a secretary of state ilhan omar, a secretary of defense rashida tlaib connect the radicals take over? >> paul: i can tell you the first 51 resumes that are going to show up. these cases are tough to make. i worked in the space, and the problem is that the charities, there is a continuum between the charities and the groups that are more radical. it's very tough to make those cases. realistically it was the only one the feds managed to make,

the holy land foundation. that was a bit of a debacle and that's why this continues. to move it into the political realm, i actually think that, while it does matter and it should matter to the electorate at large, to the democratic base these days, this is a jeremiah wright moment. are you linked to this guy? let me see where he has to say. that's where i am. you could argue that he's already made the point, i'm hooked to this guy. i don't need to say anything else about it. base, you know where i stand. we know that is where the energy in the small donations are coming from, the pro-hamas wing of the democratic party. it does exist. decide at universities. that's why it's out there. that's why i don't think you will repudiate this very hard. >> kayleigh: i remember being at the rnc and there were these jeremiah wright scandals, that you're right, nobody cared to move the needle. >> harris: yeah, but it did for a little bit. it did put some oxygen and other democrats who were hoping to get through that primary, namely

hillary clinton. it was right around the time -- remember when she waited until june to get out of the race? i mean, it was late. maybe i'm the only one who remembers that, but i thought the timing of obama's past pastor, the reverend jeremiah wright, the timing of that was really interesting. the timing of this is what it is because we only have 84 days until the election. it is all just coming like water out of the hose right now. i do want to mention that, in my former home state of minnesota, today is the primary for ilhan omar. you were talking about all of future. she may be available for one depending on how this goes. if they vote against her, this will be the third far left liberal in as many weeks to lose in a primary. cori bush and jamaal bowman, as well. >> kayleigh: i do want to quickly share -- i will get its other scandal scandal we hit on, the tim walz scandal getting real legs about his military service, the questions have been raised.

"jesse watters primetime" put together all these times where you had to walz repeating that he retired as a command sergeant major. watch. >> i'm a retired command sergeant major. >> retired command sergeant major in the guard. >> they said, this is congressman walz. he's a retired sergeant major in the army. speaker retired command sergeant major. >speak a retired sergeant major in the army. >> retired sergeant major. >> he should answer questions, not just kamala scrubbing her website. he needs to sit down and answer these questions. >> cheryl: that's like me saying i'm the cfo of fox news media. happy to serve, everybody. but unrealistic and not treated. this is why you have things like linkedin where you can look at somebody's background and their titles. if i put down that i was the cfo of xyz company, that would be false. i would be lying. so yes, facts matter. i don't know why the campaign is not responding to this. maybe they are afraid, because he obviously was a pick to try to bring in those veterans.

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♪ ♪ >> kayleigh: the liberal media's sudden turnaround on kamala harris coverage is now being called out as teetering on propaganda. for reference, here are some of her coverage from her 2018 campaign when she first took office. "the new york times," "how kamala harris' campaign unraveled." and it was politico on her office, "not a healthy environment, rife with dissent." ncn and added, "exasperation and dysfunction." that's when they were being honest. even more recently, there were calls for president biden to drop harris as vp. ceylon, "new york" magazine, even politico came out with these headlines. but now she is the presumptive democratic presidential nominee, and boy, did they do he'll turn. he's running against donald trump, so all the

concern, all the questions vanish into this. "the reintroduction of kamala harris." the quotes in this are stunning. harris, here are some of them. match for the moment, an overnight sensation, a political phenomenon, the swiftest vibe shift in modern political history. they're not even trying to hide it. >> harris: all of that is true, especially the "overnight sensation" part. apparently we have a lot of overnight sleepovers for this one because i think they are on round eight or nine, something i shared with our viewers on the focus yesterday, how many times they try to reinvent her in 23 days. we don't get a redo like that ever in life. what is it that they don't want us to know about kamala harris? is it that the scripts are not even edited by her that she reads on the stump, let alone written? everybody's got speechwriters, but since we can't get a sit down with her maybe she be participating in riding the speeches, that will be hopeful to know. all these off the record relationships she is forming

with legacy and liberal media now will come into play. once she does finally sit down -- and i welcome people to look at this, because this will feel like another reintroduction. maybe it'll come with a cover, who knows? but then those reporters and journalists and writers will begin to write things like, we have always known that she told us this. all that off the record saying goes on the record and it solidifies her rise. it's kind of a thing that happens in journalism when you know you can't speak about something. you can triangulate it if you want where you can wait for that subject to tell you it's on the record now. watch for it. >> kayleigh: cheryl, one of the interesting things about this, the line in the piece, "the campaign denied a request for an interview for this story." you don't even have to go on an interview to get this kind of coverage. it just comes to you. >> cheryl: pretty amazing you get a cover of a magazine and you don't even have to talk to the magazine. a good james freeman makes a really good play about all of this, this love affair with her.

it can backfire with them and joe biden. they knew there were problems, that he wasn't "with it," and all of a sudden they all get exposed. and he says, look for in the media doomed democrats? all this congenial coverage of harris could repeat the biden mistakes. so think about it before you do the next globally dominant glow- wide piece. it looks like they're going to fail again because she's going to have an interview. >> harris: oprah will get involved. you'll see. >> kayleigh: i want to focus on "time" magazine on the track record. this is their assassination attempt cover. they first posted on x, this assassination attempt cover of donald trump, the infamous fist in the air where he said "site, site, site." as "the federalist" pointed out, they didn't put it to print. after they got criticized for putting this image out, the actual image is on the other side. no picture of donald trump. >> paul: i think a perfect metaphor here would have been if

"time" magazine published that kamala harris cover, but when he opened it, the interior, all the pages were blank. that is realistically what you got here. it is a little bit about "time" magazine. who knew it even published still? i didn't know that was still around. they have decided to completely dispense with any journalistic ethics here, just to try to get on the radar. this is the equivalent of the kid in the back saying, "teacher, i'm still here, you haven't called on me in a while." they want us to pay attention to a magazine nobody cares about anymore, and it is published, if you drill down, by a san francisco activist. so you know exactly where it's coming from. the best thing to do to this is laugh at the cover and ignore it. it's all going to be propaganda. the proof of that is, imagine a right-leaning journalistic forum put out that kind of a cover of donald trump. screams on the left, this is like goebbels, soviet propaganda. they all melt down.

it's embarrassingly obvious. >> kayleigh: "time" magazine have agreed they fall into irrelevancy, but they've gotten a lot of traction and notice. let's do a side by side, emily, for you. you see kamala harris on one side and on the other side this is how they cover donald trump. you see him melting down. you can't deny the double standard. >> emily: no. just to underscore, she didn't even sit for this interview. to me it read like an influencer. >> harris: not on the record, anyway. >> emily: so sophomoric and they were painting what they expected pray let me say the words and that'll be reality. and it included, by the way, a totally farcical civics lesson. i love how they pointed out that she became the de facto nominee, sadly because joe biden endorsed her. every thread in their was such a joke, and illegal, so demonstrably ridiculous. my favorite point besides the swiftest vibe shift was when they talked about that, while in the beginning they were unsure, "in the past two weeks kamala has come out as the energetic

fighter her allies know her for." energetic fighter? we haven't even seen her. that's the point. she has not taken a question from the media that you purport to represent with answers to the questions. i loved grin, glenn greenwald's report where he said, somehow they tried to transform her from a national embarrassment to a transformative pioneer overnight. to your point, go ahead and shout it to the rooftops in san francisco. but for the rest of us americans, i'll take my reality with a cup of water. >> kayleigh: "time" magazine. well, they have been exposed. remember who they had up for a time person of the year? the trump prosecutors. >> paul: if you are still there, we know. it's okay. [laughter] >> kayleigh: california governor gavin newsom is ready for his beauty shot. newsom's office reportedly adding a new photographer. you will not believe what they are paying him. ♪ ♪

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newsom's office reportedly hired a famed presidential photographer to help brush up the governor's image, while getting to know his work. for example, feast your eyes on these beauty shots of newsom cleaning up homeless encampments in los angeles. gavin's new photographer doesn't come cheap. california taxpayers are picking up the tab on his reported $200,000 salary. paul, number one, if true, this is the highest paid member of newsom's staff. number two, newsom himself as governor only out urns that guide by $34,000. just slightly more. >> paul: $200,000? that is a dollar per hair. [laughter] first off, california voters and taxpayers, if you allow this, if you fall for it, what can we say? you have got to kick against us. what i would like to see is the following. first of all, an audit of where he spent his money, because this is what we know about. i know enough about government, if this is the salient point we

are hearing about, there's probably another crew of five people who do his nails, his skin, all the other stuff. who does his make up every morning? that's going to be there, because all of this is the beginning of the 2028 campaign. that's why he's doing all of this. what i would like to see in california is the g.o.p. hired their own photographer to photograph this photographer, because that's going to let you know exactly what they are really doing and what's going on and what you're paying for in california while there's homeless people all over san francisco and they are taking head shots of this guy for his close-up. >> emily: cheryl come to that point, we know newsom's math has always been faulty on the homeless front. he requested a loan to pay for 4300 housing units which works out to a lot of money, 1.5 per housing unit. the average cost. my point is, in newsom's world, clearly money is just infinite. >> cheryl: that is why california -- we see so many of them continuing to flee every year. but they spent $25 billion to clean up the homeless problem in

california. have you been to los angeles lately? have you seen santa monica or venice beach? it's a mess. those tents are still there. l.a. county is fighting back. they are saying, no, he took away our psych beds. where are we going to put these people connect is not enough apartments to put them in. we have helped a few hundred. meanwhile tears homeless. he was successful businessman. he can afford to spend on the photographer himself. he eats at french laundry, remember? >> emily: the question is, why can't he just get a volunteer with an iphone? you can take great photos with that! i'm not demeaning the purpose, and being serious. you can take great photos. why the need on gavin's end to always spend so much money above what is really required? >> kayleigh: how do you say "i have national political ambitions" without saying that?

you hire a photographer, making $200,000. i don't understand why he didn't just get this guy on campaign staff. if you want him, if it is a priority, the amount of the campaign. to me the big question for gavin newsom, why do you need this? why do you need this guy to follow you around and take all these glossy photos of you? i guess he's thinking of running for president, but he's got kamala in the way. >> harris: he could have bought food and housing for more homeless. that's really all i have to say. >> emily: amen. >> paul: the metaphor is that businesses are fleeing california and gavin newsom's obsession with his hair. musk had left california and taken all those jobs because newsom is concerned about how he looks on camera. >> kayleigh: let's be generous, maybe he needed that to pay gavin newsom taxes. >> emily: more "outnumbered" in a moment. ♪ ♪

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♪ ♪ >> all right, so this just happened, we want to show it to you, president biden was speaking to fox news as he was departing the white house moments ago. watch together. >> vice president harris then you as a candidate in the general? >> issues we worked on together, economically. what we did on infrastructure. >> so as karine jean-pierre said, at the white house press briefing, there is no daylight between joe biden and kamala harris p advised that critical? >> this is first of all untrue. biden held the line on israel to a certain extent. kamala comes in and they are making progressive lists, she is going to go and do away with the obama and biden teams.

progressive kamala. >> wow. >> at least he didn't say, "who is kamala harris?" was running the country. she is out campaigning, it's not her and not him. >> they are trying to reinvent her, that is the whole point. they are not separate. in fact they are even worse. that is the truth and that is what they need to hammer. >> i've been looking at all of her past statements on policy moves when she was in california and the senate, very progressive when it comes to energy, taxation, and i think this economic plan we are expecting to hear from the campaign this week, we are going to get their first real view of what her plans are and it will ruffle feathers. >> just a couple seconds to follow up, anything else she might take from donald trump asides no taxes on tips? >> well, you mean stealing that? [laughs] i don't know. the problem is pennsylvania for her right now. it is the fracking issue. that is where i think she will have to pay that. >> well, she is trying. here is "america reports." ♪ ♪ >> sandra: okay, it is a waiting game and