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>> john: at this hour we expect to see former president trump at the southern border in arizona one of the hottest sectors for illegal crossing. the border crisis points to be one of the strongest selling points in his reelection bid and one of the biggest vulnerabilities for vice president kamala harris. the former president expected to speak within an hour. welcome back to "america reports" i am john roberts in washington. >> sandra: i wish we had some news peered something to talk about. some live shots. some candidates on the trail. welcome everyone. i am sandra smith in new york and the news is moving fast. fox polls show the majority of voters trust trump over harris to do a better job on border security and immigration. the former president and his running mate j.d. vance are looking to press the advantage on this issue. by talking about that issue into battleground states. the dnc as he may have noticed is virtually ignoring the

situation at the southern border during the convention this week. >> it is kamala harris and the democrats who are running as far away as possible from even talking about this issue because it has been an epic failure under her watch as the open borders are. she owns this catastrophe and president trump is correct to highlight this very significant difference. >> john: up republican texas governor greg abbott joins us moments for now. >> sandra: will be begin with alicia acuna's who is live there in arizona for us where the former president is set to deliver remarks a short time from now. what do we know about what we are about to hear? >> hi sandra, hi john. excuse me. we are going to be hearing from the former president and about an hour here. i'm here in cochise county. this is the biggest sector, along the u.s.-mexico border according to usb and the sheriff here mark daniels is gog

to be one of the people meeting with trump today and he made this comparison on fox and friends this morning. >> when president trump was in office there were less than 2 million sentinel pills in arizona seized. last year at 111 million functional pills were seized in arizona alone. look at the difference. >> as kamala harris takes the stage tonight in chicago, polls show the u.s.-mexico border is one of her biggest vulnerabilities. fox news polling shows trump leads harris by 19 points and 14 points on immigration. a closer look at both candidates policies and statements on the border specifically on immigrants becoming u.s. citizens, harris acknowledging the system needs fixing. >> we know what it takes to fix it. comprehensive reform. that includes strong border

security and an earned pathway to citizenship. speak out they harris walz campaign has not released details on how that would look but on monday the democratic national committee released the final party platform which includes specifics including a call to implement the u.s. citizenship act. this is a democratic house bill introduced in may of last year that outlines a pathway for some already in the country and creates a new status called lawful perspective immigrants. for his part to former president statements have been pretty straightforward and he has not mentioned a path to citizenship. >> if kamala wins you will have mass amnesty and citizenship for all of the biden-harris illegals that poured into our country. if i when you will have the largest deportation operation in american history starting at noon on inauguration day 2025.

>> john and sandra we will be waiting in cochise county. the president is set to arrive within the hour. back to you. >> sandra: thank you. >> john: looking forward to that. we will see you soon. right now let's bring in greg abbott the republican governor of the great state of texas. according to a fox news poll, a record number of people believe that the situation on the southern border is either an emergency or a major problem. the total of that is 87%. the closest it was was back in october of 2023 when 85% of people felt that. where are we now in terms of the border and how does that play into the election? >> listen it plays into the election because as governors and residents and citizens across america have seen, every state is now a border state. it's not something that just happens in texas or arizona. that happens in georgia, and pennsylvania, and wisconsin with regard to the importation of fence and all, with regard to

people losing their lives because of criminals and rapists that have been allowed in with kamala harris being in charge of the border. it was amazing moments ago on your clip she said that we know how to fix the border. they have had the ability to fix the border for more than three and a half years now and because they have not only failed to do that but because they have adopted the catch and release policies that president trump had gotten rid of they have now allowed in more than 11 million illegal immigrants. many of whom they don't know where they are right now. many of whom are known rapists, murders, and even terrorists. americans are threatened now more than ever because of the reckless open border policies that were allowed by kamala harris. >> john: went to the point that you just made here is a new ad from the harris campaign touting how calmly would be the

solution to our wards at the bo. listen here. >> as president she will hire thousands of more border agents and crackdown on fentanyl and human trafficking. fixing the border is tough. so is kamala harris. >> john: as you pointed out she was appointed border czar back in march of 2021. what has she been doing for the past three and a half years? why is she only turned in her eye toward fixing it now and is terms of how broken it has become look at the statistics for the tucson sector which includes cochise county there appeared under bite in february 21 to july 2024, 1,211,886 illegal entries compared that to trump. under biden it is almost an over us 400% increase in illegal crossings ai. >> this is easy for voters to see what is going on. the facts are the facts. the facts are that when president trump left office, the

lowest illegal border crossings and over 45 years and after biden-harris took over we've had without a doubt the largest illegal border crossings ever but remember this also when kamala first ran for president she articulated several policies that she believed in such as saying that immigrants should not be treated as criminals. they wanted to give free health care to illegal immigrants and they want to abolishites. they were against the wall. here is my point. everything she said when she first ran for president is what she is for. she has a record as well as an articulated vision for what she wants to achieve and it has devastated the united states of america. all americans must know this simple thing. if kamala harris becomes president as bad as things have been under joe biden, they will

be even worse under kamala harris as concerns our broken border. >> john: the sheriff there and cochise county, we've had him on many times. he has been highly critical of the biden-harris administration but not everyone is. listen to javier salazar who is the bexar county sheriff and what he said at the dnc last night. >> when donald trump comes down to texas, stands next to officers in uniform just like mine, he has not there to help us. don't think that. not for a second. he is a self-serving man. kamala on the other hand has been fighting border crime for years. she has gone down to mexico and worked to stop the traffickers and when the traffickers did not stop, she put them in jail. >> john: what do you make of that governor? >> it's wrong for two ways. one is by the policies that kamala has implemented, she has facilitated border crime by

ending catch and release, by allowing illegal immigrants to come and who are very dangerous and go across the entire country and commit mayhem. the second thing i will tell you and that is the sheriff that was just talking there is not actually a border sheriff. what i know for a fact is president trump has been on the border with me as well as with sheriff's on the border. the border sheriff's rally behind president trump because they know he is the only president who has ever really stepped up and it secured the and provided those local border sheriff's the resources and the tools and the support that they need to better secure the bo border. >> john: governor we look forward to at the former president has to say in the minutes ahead. thank you sir for joining us. sandra, we should point out that kamala harris is running away from the title of border czar as quickly as she can't. in fact if you take a look at what a lot of the media has written about it.

here's what axios said regarding her title as the border czar. internally harris' team at her office made clear that her responsibilities began and ended with the factors driving people to leave guatemala, honduras, and el salvador. so-called root causes. nobody ever appointed me border czar. i am not the vice president. i could've told you from not leaving this desk what is driving people to leave those countries for the united states. i'm not sure how much of an accomplishment. >> sandra: but you can roll tape on her saying stop don't come. she initially thought that was her role. and by the way she was referenced as heading up the border in multiple interviews after biden announced that role and did not dispute that fact. we have rolled tape on that as well. so she can run away from it but will she talk about the crisis at the southern border and beyond by the way because this is something that is affecting people all over the country. you saw through the primary season, you saw it in the

fox news voter analysis. this was the top issue for so many voters. coast-to-coast, john. so she can run away from it but what it will do to the american people who deeply cares what this problem is a big question. >> john: she took that title and put it in a little lock box and put it in the lowest drawer of her desk. >> sandra: more on that in just a moment. meanwhile vice president harris speaking of which will be giving her big convention speech tonight and accepting the democrat nomination. all without giving a single extended interview. senior white house correspondent jacqui heinrich is live in chicago. obviously the trump advance ticket is focusing on this. there was a joke as vance was speaking a moment ago. thank you for taking questions the crowd said. senator pelosi is also at the dnc. tell us about that. >> there is quite a lot to talk about with that, sander appeared on your first question there's a lot of reports that tonight the vice president is going to use her time on the spotlight to tell life story much like her

much lesser known vice presidential nominee even though she has been serving as vice president for the last three and a half years there are a lot of questions that remain about some of her more progressive policy positions and reported reversals on them. she has yet to speak to those fully including reversals on fracking, on single-payer health care system, on an assault weapons buyback program. and there are reportedly some tensions between more progressive democrats and the centrists over how she should handle big issues like immigration and israel if she is to win in november. however the tensions earlier in the week were all about joe biden. harris stayed pretty far away from their nights. she kept the plan to be in milwaukee for obama's night and she was also not here for pelosi speaking last night. just trying to keep a respectful distance on that all of that tension with joe biden still licking his wounds after being forced to make his decision and

thrown the towel here. but pelosi for her start, she is not feeling the awkwardness. she is basically taking a victory lap on all of this. on the floor last night democratic lawmakers were seen wearing these pins depicting pelosi as a godmother outright acknowledging she pulled the strings behind the string seems to wrap up the pressure to force the exit something that she tried to deny but in recent days has talked about openly including this morning. >> do you think is angry at you? >> i don't know. we haven't had a conversation. >> it is been very tough. i know this is a friendship that goes back 50 years. he is on vacation but are there any plans for you to talk? >> i hope so. but that was then, this is now. >> what we are watching for tonight is from harris and whether she will continue the appeals we have been hearing earlier in the week from other speakers to the swing voters out

there. the moderates, the centrists, the undivided folks who are not in this room. take a listen to this message. >> if we want to win over those who are not yet ready to support our candidates, we need to listen to their concerns. and maybe learn something in the process. >> treat them with respect. just the way you would like them to treat you. >> i am pete booter judge and you might recognize me from fox news. i believe in going anywhere. speak of the folks in this room are not undecided and they will have to take the messages back to their voters to try and pull the undecided votes and more than them got in 2020. it was 10,000 is arizona 12,000 in georgia. the style of speaking about the thorniest issues, we will see if it changes in the aftermath of

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>> john: now to america's crime crisis and a warning that the video you are about to see may be disturbing to some viewers. chilling footage shows a moment a man throws a woman onto the busy 210 freeway in pasadena. the victim was being ruthlessly beat by the same man. william la jeunesse as live. how is the woman doing? she narrowly escaped being killed by traffic there. >> it's a miracle she's alive. she was this far from being flattened by a car sustaining multiple cuts requiring stitches, her face likely leaped disfigured for life and she cannot walk on her own. this happened at a l.a. metro train station in pasadena that sits in the center divide of a free way cars going by at 70 miles an hour separated only by a concrete barrier. police say the victim had no idea who this guy was. out of the blue he hits her in the face, smashes her head against the platform, then dragged her over the barrier

into oncoming traffic. not once, twice, but three times trying to get her run over. the suspect 33-year-old juan pablo florez, no surprise, a lengthy criminal record arrested and released twice and then the last nine months. l.a. metro is a rolling version of california's crime problems. homeless shelter, drug den, clearing house for felons carrying nearly 1 million passengers a day. total crimes on the system surging 65% in the first three months of this year. violent crime, robbery, battery, assault, jumping 15% according to l.a.p.d. and it's not just passengers. 160 metro drivers attacked last year, beaten, shot, stabbed. the city trying to install cages to protect the bus drivers after one was killed in may and two passengers were stabbed in the same week. l.a. metro said crime simply reflects the trends they see in the city. the suspect faces life in prison if convicted after a driver was

killed in may. this situation, l.a. is just getting used to it. he is being held this time in jail, no bail. back to you. >> john: thank goodness for that. william la jeunesse for us, thank you. sandra. >> sandra: there are reports that independent president candidate robert f. kennedy jr. could be dropping out of the week as soon as tomorrow. and potentially endorse former president donald trump. he is scheduled to speak tomorrow plugging our hours during the show. so tune in for that. bring in brian kilmeade "fox & friends" cohost and host of the brian kilmeade radio show. great to see you. i guess the big question is what impact would this have on the trump vance ticket? if he pulls out, rfk jr., and endorses donald trump? >> we talked to president trump this morning on "fox & friends." i talked to karl rove after and he said a lot will weigh in on how rfk is saying to his

followers i want you to vote for him. vote for trump. if he says i am out, i want you to vote for trump and here is why, we disagree in the deficit and other things but for the most part donald trump will change things and anybody that thought when things change to support me go to it and he stays there with him. but he just as i'm out, thanks very much. i'm endorsing donald trump and he disappears, that is less of a chance of that 4% going his direction. but if you look at the nbc polls, and bc-pretty high with both parties but higher with republicans. the more they got a look at rfk the less they liked him and ever since kamala came out, it seems like kamala, kamala harris came out, it seems the only people he is retaining popularity with our republicans. and it stands to reason that is good news for trump. >> sandra: you asked trump about this and he reacted on your show this morning and said this. >> i have known him for a long time. as you know he's a little

different kind of a guy. very smart guy and a very good person. if he endorsed me, i would be honored by it. i would be very honored by it. he really has his heart in the right place. >> sandra: he would be honored by it. >> since joe biden bowed out, it has been momentum for democrats. not only is the dnc over, this could be a change that shows momentum going back even slightly to donald trump. that two or three points in key states, that could be the difference in the election. if you don't believe me, think jill stein and you can wring that name up to hillary clinton and she breaks up and hives. that's a huge issue. >> sandra: this is nicole shanahan. she went on last night and this was interesting about what his future might be in a possible trump administration. >> there's only one party that has obstructed fair election for

us and unfortunately it was the democratic party paired they have done everything they can including creating packs to prevent us from being able to have ballot access. >> do you see a home for rfk jr. and the trump administration, health and human services, something to that extent. >> i would fully support it. i would fully support a strong partnership dedicated to this issue. >> sandra: perhaps that is a hint. this was an rfk jr. tweet. as always i'm willing to talk with leaders of any political party to further the goals i have done for 40 years in my career and in this campaign. does he end up in the trump administration? >> they are both in arizona tomorrow. whiles with a post be there. and how much did you surround the story? the sound bites and the tweets? and he looks fantastic. that's true. it's debatable. maybe we will do a poll if john roberts will agree to it. i know you have to agree to everything. i think it would be an excellent thing. he has been an asset.

he expands people's minds and he's a deep thinker. if you listen to him on joe rogan and we hear him for over two hours you see how bright he is and how much time he puts into it. there's no doubt about it if trump wins he would be in the cabinet in some way, shape, or form. he doesn't have much family support but he seems to have a lot of republican support. >> sandra: that's me making sure my team pops up the three shot because john your name was invoked. >> we have great guests. >> sandra: there it is. >> john: and a pitch for our show tomorrow. lots to look forward to. >> i didn't know john is going to give me permission. saturday 9:00 amongst my great roster of gas will be you, you, douglas murray, one of the few people smarter than me on a daily basis and we will glenn greenwald on. >> sandra: you are on a roll. you are on a roll. >> is john going to talk to me? >> john: thank you brian. appreciate it.

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moments to respond up but first a go live to madison alworth. she is in chicago for us. hi medicine. what can we expect from vp harris' big speech tonight? >> this will be her opportunity to convince her party and america to upgrade her from vice president harris to president harris. we expect to hear about her personal background and also your comparisons to her opponent former president trump. we don't expect to hear much by way of policy because she hasn't really shared a lot in that vein up to this point. she has really only laid out her economic policies and the ones that she has laid out left a lot of people concerned. even though there have been very few details around execution and funding of her plan she has reiterated the need for it earlier this week. >> we believe in the future of our country. we believe in a future where we lower the cost-of-living for america's families and when i am president i will bring down the cost of groceries by making sure

markets are competitive and f fair! >> but without full details of how it will be paid for, analysts have said that her plan could add nearly $2 trillion to the national debt. specifically looking at some items expanding the child tax credit that was enacted during the pandemic will cost $1.1 trillion in her plan to provide $25,000 in a federal down payment assistance to first-time home buyers would cost $100 billion. people do want things like affordable housing and affordable goods, but economists argue that spending like this would only make inflation worse making those very same goods even more expensive and there is a real concerns about what price controls would do to the economies and businesses. harris is promising a first ever ban on price gouging for food and groceries but many argue price controls don't work and it hasn't been made clear how they would even determine that price gouging is happening. with food producers pointing out the grocery store margins were

at 1.6% last year. and again, there is no explanation as to how this would all be paid for but we can look at harris said she would raise the corporate tax rate from 21% to 28% and that would help fund some of these spending initiatives but this is just part of the pie. we have not heard anything about her foreign policy or anything about her energy policy, both of those things could add even more spending to her budget into the deficit. and sandra. >> sandra: very important issues to american voters. madison alworth in chicago for us. thank you. >> john: let's bring in matt bennett third way cofounder and former president bill clinton's white house deputy assistant. i feel nostalgic the last time i was at a dnc convention in chicago was 1996 when bill clinton accepted the nomination for the second time. kamala harris tonight does the same thing bill clinton did so many years ago and here is what "the wall street journal" editorial board wrote about what lies ahead. kamala harris takes the chicago stage on thursday and the

culmination of one of the most audacious bats in recent political history. in 100 days, democrats can turn the copilot of an unpopular presidency into the reincarnation of barack obama's movement for hope and change. that sounds like some pretty impressive political gymnastics. can she do it? >> so far, so good. this has been a remarkable change in this party. no one has ever seen anything like it in the last 3-4 weeks democrats have gone from feeling like we were marching towards our doom to feeling like we are really in this. everyone knows this will be a very competitive rates. the race is essentially tied now but we think we can win and that is a very, very big boost to our enthusiasm here and that is why you have seen such tremendous unity. you have the same level of response to hillary clinton and to aoc, our party which has two distinct wings is very united right now.

>> john: so far this is all about the vibe and very short on policy and we did a little bit of looking and we came up with kamala harris by the numbers here. she gets a lot of zeros. zero primaries one during the 2020 democratic primaries. zero primaries one during the 2024 democratic primary. zero sitdown interviews at since becoming the presumptive democratic nominee, zero press conferences since becoming the presumptive democratic nominee and zero policy pages on kamala harris.com. the last time she was vetted in an electoral process was 2019 when she ethically flamed out and she is running away from the policies that she espoused back then. most recently now saying that she has no interest in getting into the jcp away again with iran. do you really know where she stands on policy? >> sure we know. she has been vice president for three and a half years. she has been vice president for three and a half years. we know all of the

accomplishments and some of the challenges of the bite and harris years and we have been very clear as a party in the last three nights and we will be again tonight that that is the direction generally speaking that she wants to go. of course the future is going to look different from the past. there will be new things but let me say this. in 2016 hillary clinton, we counted paired she had 295 policy ideas on her website that went from alzheimer's to zeke appeared donald trump in 2016 had 7 and one of them was respect the police which is not a policy idea. so policy ideas don't win elections and her job over the next course of the months is to win the election. you run in poetry -- you campaign in poetry and you run the country and pros. we will see more details but for the most part what she will talk about our values and that's what americans vote on. >> john: okay. he laid out some of the things that she has accomplished during the biden-harris administration. some of those things include

record amounts of illegal immigration, inflation that drove a lot of people into the poorhouse and an economy that is still sputtering for people who are trying to put food on the table. and here's what a "new york times" poll said about whether or not folks think that the countries on the right track or the wrong track and you know how important this number is. 60% of people say that the countries on the wrong track after three and a half years of the hair invited administration and a new fox news poll, 73% of people say the economy is fair or poor. so how does that play in her favor? >> she has been very clear that there is work to be done here but if you look at some of the big numbers that unemployment which is incredibly low, manufacturing jobs which are coming back and record waves for the first time in 40 years. the stock market were people's 401(k)s are doing really well. the numbers are very good but we are not there yet. obviously inflation is a huge

problem and she is going to address cost not only tonight but every day between now and election day and understands that people are still hurting but when ronald reagan declared morning in america, inflation was at 4.3% and unemployment was at 7.4%. so you don't necessarily declare that things are perfect because things rarely are. what you talk about is where you want to go. elections are about the future and she is going to offer a vision for how we can do better under her presidency. >> john: a lot of people say in terms of where she wants to go, why has she not been going there for the last three to half years and to the jobs numbers, don't forget we heard that revision yesterday. nearly 1 million fewer jobs were created in the year ending march than we thought. a lot to talk about and we will look forward to the speech tonight. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> sandra: former president trump about to tour the border in arizona at one of

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cochise county arizona. the sheriff's office there is confirming via a facebook post that a manhunt is underway for a man who they believe it has threatened to kill a presidential candidate. while we do note that this is the county where trump is right now for his border event. seen on your screen there. it is scheduled to start shortly. you may have seen reports via the daily mail that the candidate is trump. we have not independently confirmed that. nor have we confirmed that this was specifically a threat for today. we don't have that yet but we are reaching out to the sheriff's office right now are more details on that. anymore information we get on this we will bring that to you. >> john: so the suspects name is ronald lee survey. he is a white male 6 feet tall wearing glasses grade 66 years of age. last known address is benson

arizona which is 60 miles away from where the president is speaking the next few minutes. alecia, what can you tell us about this? >> i can tell you the press is locked in the pen area as we await the arrival of former president trump we understand he has on the ground in cochise county the same county as you mentioned where the sheriff's department has now released this statement that they are underway in a manhunt for someone who has threatened to kill a presidential candidate. we are working to confirm that target in fact was supposed to be former president trump and the location was supposed to be here and of the day was supposed to be today. we don't have any other additional information, i believe we have a picture of the suspect who we can put up right now. again, i think you mentioned his name is ronald lee survey. he's a white male 6 feet glasses. 66 years old. in his last known address was in

benson arizona which is about an hour and 20 minute drive from the city of sierra vista from where we're standing right now. the sheriff of cochise county will be greeting the president today and is expected to be here so we are hoping we can get some sort of update from him but chilling information, a chilling update to get as the president is headed here as we do consider what happened earlier this summer and also that the president just returned to those outdoor rallies where he has to have bullet proof glass in front of his body. back to you. >> sandra: as you noted we have his picture on the screen now. this was from not a mug shot we are told. this is from a search warrant for suspicious activity for a benson resident who is wanted for several outstanding warrants as described 6 feet tall white male glasses 66 years old last known address benson. the subject has outstanding warrants from the state of wisconsin for dui, failure to appear for dui and from

graham county arizona for a hit-and-run and a failure, a felony failure to register as a sex offender and these are some of the details we are learning about this man. >> right. quite the rap sheet there that you mentioned and in cochise county alone the sheriff's office says he does have an abscond or hold it for him for failing to register as a sex offender. as you can imagine the security which is always tight when you are with a presidential candidate, when you are with a former president or a president, that has been extended. we have seen it in large and since the events of one former president trump was shot but now you have the extension of the cochise county sheriff department issuing a manhunt announcement for this 66-year-old man from benson arizona, last known address because apparently according to the sheriff's department he was going to target former

president trump today. that is according to reporting from the daily mail. again we are still working to confirm those specific details and we will await word from sheriff mark daniels, the cochise county sheriff who is with the former president today and we are waiting here. he has scheduled the former president is scheduled to meet with a variety of officials here including folks he is here to talk about immigration and the border and security and he was scheduled to meet with families, victims who have been victimized by the immigration crisis. all of this unfolding at once sandra and as we await updates from law enforcement. >> sandra: alecia cuneo for us on that. thank you. we will get back to you and we are watching for the former president to begin speaking there. joining us now by phone is nicole parker. again, the news is that cochise county the sheriff's office there in arizona confirming by this facebook post that a manhunt is underway right now for a man they believe has threatened to kill a presidential candidate, not

naming anyone by name. there are reports out there that the candidate is trump. we have not independently confirm that. but this is the county where trump is right now for this border event. your thoughts? >> my thought is you put two and two together and he is the candidate there and it is likely it is president trump. but for law enforcement for putting this out immediately. anyone that comes in contact with this individual or sees this individual, you must assume he has armed and dangerous and do not approach them. contact 911 immediately, call law enforcement. all hands on deck once again. as we have seen it with what occurred on july 13th, we are in a dangerous time for our cou country. political candidates are the target of violence and particularly president trump. this is why it is so important for law enforcement to be on top of this, to be on top of any potential threats, any intelligence they are getting, and good for law enforcement for

identifying this prior to president trump appearance in this county. i guarantee that fbi has been contacted. i'm sure that all local law enforcement is working with federal agencies as well to track down this individual and tracked on the history and where they are right now and with the intention was and he will be arrested. >> john: this guy has been across the country pure he has warrants, outstanding warrants in wisconsin for failing to appear for a dui, graham county arizona he's wanted for a hit-and-run and felony failure to register as a sex offender. looking at the picture there from montezuma past where the president is about to speak, there is a lot of high ground around it. it is a pass. i think that ground might be quite a long way away. don't know if somebody could try to hide up in the hills there with some sort of rifle. what do you think law enforcement is doing right now in relation to the

president's appearance right there? >> again, we have credible intelligence that this could possibly occur. i surely believe they are taking steps right now to ensure president trump safety. the last thing they want to do is what happened to july 13th and bring him onto a stage or bring them to an appearance where there is a threat. the secret service asked to be on point. they made a massive mistake on july 13th that cost citizens lives, president trump was injured. this time they are collaborating in their getting information together and they are going to ensure that president trump is safe. >> sandra: i'm just looking at the screen there. the live shop where the former president is about to speak. we saw him deliver that rally speech yesterday for the first time outdoors he was since the assassination attempt against him and he was behind bulletproof glass. right now obviously you look at the situation. this was the scene yesterday on screen right. you look screen left and you

wonder how many more precautions they could take to protect the former president and all of these high level leaders as they continued to be on the trail. >> as you look there are so many vulnerabilities in that particular location. they can take no chances and that is the last thing that law enforcement will do is put president trump in a vulnerable situation. i guarantee you they will do what is right and he will be protected. but again, this individual, there is a known threat. there is an active manhunt for this person. someone knows who he is. he has been identified and his picture is now on the internet. the daily mail article. you see his picture, you know who he is, their family members, there are friends or potential colleagues that know what this individual is up to and they need to contact law enforcement immediately and start providing information about his whereabouts. protecting where he is, now is the time to come forward.

if you have information you need to contact the county of arizona on where he may be and what his intentions are and that is the most critical part. catching him and putting him behind bars where he belongs. >> john: the pictures on the screen as you speak a call. this is ronald surveyed 66 years of age. last known address in benson arizona. 33 miles as the crow flies from where president trump will be. yesterday we saw at that rally that the president was at that he walked out of that protective zone when one of the people in the crowd had an issue with being dehydrated or overly fatigued and he walked ahead of the secret service detail. he is out there wanting to talk to people despite the fact that these threats continue. and i would expect that the president is not about to cancel this appearance today either. but again, that is a fairly open

area. do you believe that law enforcement can offer the adequate amount of protection to keep them safe? >> what i believe is that president trump is a very wise individual and he will take the recommendation of those that are sworn to protect him and he will do what he believes is best and those that are sworn to protect them, local law enforcement, federal law enforcement, secret service, he continues to be the target of many threats. and i hate to be the bearer of bad news but this will not be the last time that this will happen until the election and going forward. i believe that there are many threats going on behind the scene that individuals never know about because it is eliminated by law enforcement and they are able to tracked on the individuals. i know what the fbi we have threat to life squad and that's all they do. they focus on potential threatening posts online and what people may do whether it is threatening the president or blowing up a school. but this particular time right now is so important and critical

and president trump, i trust that law enforcement is going to do everything in their power to make sure he is protected. >> sandra: i want to highlight what is on the screen as folks are wondering. it's not a clear shot but that is a shot of secret service snipers we are told perched on a crane to survey the area where trump is set to speak. we are told his motorcade and this was a couple minutes ago. his motorcade is a couple minutes out so he could should be arriving any moment now. we know how important they are but they are perched up to survey the area and obviously protect the former president. we are watching the scene there as we continue to learn more details. if you could stand by with us. >> john: being told by folks with the president right now that no change to the schedule despite the fact that this manhunt is underway. let's bring in richard starr poley former secret service agent. he joins us on the phone.

this is not your typical event where you would have a lot of police like you had in butler, pennsylvania, which proved not to be anywhere near adequate to protect the situation. do you think it is wise for the president to go ahead with this given the fact, richard, that we now see the border wall and we see that counter sniper team up on the platform being held up by a crane? >> under no circumstances can the secret service alter the president schedule. you can't allow this to happen because of what nicole just said and she's absolutely right. this is not going to be the last time that something like this happens and you certainly can't acquiesce to it. given the events of what happened last month, president trump's security has been ramped up to where it should be now at sitting providential levels of production. every day the secret service goes out and it's not unusual to go out with this in mind. this is different because we have a name to a threat. when they go out with the sitting president, they have to

go out operating under the concerns that there is always a threat that exists. what will happen now is the secret service will turn on all of its overt assets, that is a tremendous uniform presidents as much as they could get in the area as well as the covert presence that needs to be done as well and that is the total scrub of everything that they could do to search for a fugitive and work this as if you are searching for a fugitive suspect. and this guy will turn up and nicole is right peered someone knows where he is and he will be got. >> sandra: and he will be arrested. sheriff channels was speaking to the daily mail and said we will arrest him immediately as they find him and richard obviously a very scary situatios the former president is set to arrive any moment. a real quick final thought from your. >> it's a scary situation but this is what the secret service has to operate under every day. you have to go into all of these situations thinking there is someone out there looking to do harm to your protecting. what makes this unusual is we

have a face to a threat and a name to that threat. >> john: and apparently fox news digital is confirming that donald trump was the intended target as we see the former president just arriving now. they're in montezuma pass. thank you so much for being with us. we appreciate it. >> sandra: thanks to richard and nicole parker for joining us on breaking news. our coverage will continue as a former president has just arrived there and he is due to speak moments from now. >> john: as i said we are told no change to his schedule so within moments from out the present will be stepping up to the microphones there and giving his remarks on the border counter programming of the dnc tonight. we will see you again tomorrow. thank you for >> martha: thank you very much you guys. we cover this breaking news of what is happening in arizona at this hou